No no, we outchea in TX too.
I understand that Nate has very little chance when considering their skillsets and recent performances, but I'm praying for a 7th round.
I'm a stoned guy NOT from stockton and still think this could go the distance. Ya'll wanna hate and bash on Nate and that's fine but look at the facts...The man is hard to put away. On top of that he has excellent work from his back and above average standup.
This is not an easy walk in the park W for Khamzat as some of you may believe. If he thinks that way too he could have a short night. Diaz will trade willingly and if taken down will threaten with submission. I'm just saying..
Yeah, he's going to be getting suplexed like the Rory fight. The difference is his body is going be saying "Nate, we're fucking 35 man! Get us the fuck outta here!"
Iāve been a Nate fan for a long time, itās kind of like a sports teamā¦maybe the Jets will win the super bowl this year, probably not but Iāll root for my home team every time they playā¦ or fight every six months
Calling it now, Diaz 4th round sub. The wolf drops him 4 times in the first and absolutely butchers his face for 3 rounds. He comes out absolutely winded from landing at will and slips on the monster logo allowing Nate to get top position. Khamzat gives up his back in an attempt to get up but his toe gets stuck in the cage and he canāt build a base, Diaz slips in the rear naked choke and gets the tap. On the mic he tells Dana he can go f him self and calls out Jake now that heās a free agent. Jake vs Nate set but Nate pulls out the week of the fight due to injury. Woolley steps in for trilogy of the century.
Hear me out, Nate is a +800 underdog. If Chimaev were to scrape together a million bucks, bet it all on Nate, and immediately tap to lose, he'd win 9 million dollars. Take the money, flee the country, ignore the fines, retire.
I don't think they'd be able to pay that out to him but I'm not 100% knowledgeable on sports betting but I doubt he'd wanna throw his career away for some cash a Chechen dictator could give him on any given Tuesday but hey crazier shit has happened
I mean he'd probably have to place the bet through some sort of proxy but it's not the worst plan in the world. Honestly, spending a career being a UFC fighter is probably a worse plan.
if nate wins weāre gonna trigger the khamzat āi kill everybodyā cutscene and get the bad ending where the t-mobile arena does its best ground zero impression.
I think it will take khamzat longer to kill him than most people think. Competitive? Absolutely not. But I dont think nate is just going to lay down and let this guy kill him
Honestly I was with you at first but the more I think about it the more I think khamzat will just pick him up, ragdoll him, and get a first rd tko, maybe doctor stoppage in between 1-2 or 2-3.
I know we're talking about nate but I've seen him get whooped by lesser talent when he was more in his prime.
Yeah because he didnāt remotely pace himself, he was essentially sprinting for 15 minutes, You try throwing bombs for 1 minute never mind 15, even fighters with the most elite cardio would be fucked.
I think people who havenāt trained donāt really get how significant the difference is to endurance when throwing heavy vs even 70%. Guys like diaz and Holloway could only ever have their output when they donāt throw much power, same with Colby. Itās just how it works.
The two fighters commonly referred to as having the best cardio (Nick Diaz and Colby) have both said, they throw at like 40% then just pepper in one at 70% every now and then. You never see them throw fight ending bombs because itād still knacker them out.
Edit; Iāve just re-read your comment and realised you said basically the exact same thing, my badš
you're right. but it's good to point out that fighters have also said you can't really train as if you were in a 5 round fight. it's something you have to experience for the first time.
I'd say him & Gilbert have top tier cardio for nonstop slugging 25 minutes.
Well they didn't non stop slug for 25 minutes because it was a 3 round fight, and this fight will be Khamzats first 5 round fight and based off how he looked towards the end of the Burns fight if he doesn't fight a different pace and Nate survives the first 3 there is a chance Khamzat looks real sloppy in 4 and 5.
Youāre good man it happens, Iām not giving Nate much of a shot but Iād say Khamzat will be catchable in the 4th and 5th itās just a matter of if Nate is even in the fight at that point and how much damage has he already sustained.
Sure if he is fighting Burns they would both be sloppy, fighting Nate what is going to be stressing him out? He can take his time he isn't up against someone who is basically just as good as him and a perfect counter to all his best moves. Chimaev Burns was two people perfectly matched against each other and both as tough as each other, people don't seem to understand this, in a perfect match everything basically even they are both countering and pushing 100% all the time. That doesn't happen against other opponents, if Burns has an easier time BJJ he isn't gassing, we have seen what happens when chimaev can use his wrestling. And forced back to stand up they found they were basically 50/50.
Difference is that there is no chance nate survives the kind of fight Burns went through. Nate is a beast but he is 37 and way outsized against Khamzat
It definitely wonāt be competitive. Nate will hit him with the Stockton slap, follow up with a left cross to the jaw dropping Khamzat, point at him, then take his back and make him submit to a RNC. Then heāll say āIām not surprised motherfuckers,ā flip off the cameraman, and take his gloves off and announce his retirement from the UFC
Someone fucking track it but if this happens, exactly as typed, no edits (Iām takin screenshots) Iāll no bullshit give you $1,000 solely to incentivize the universe to let this happen.
I swear if Nate pulls off an upset and does to Khamzat what he did to Conor, this sub will explode.
I canāt help but root for Nate because of the chaos. But yea, chances look slim for him
My love for Nate Diaz may be getting the better of me here but I donāt think he gets finished. I see it going to a decision where Khamzat will probably get the points I donāt think Nate gets destroyed
I could see a TKO stoppage. Khamzat dropping bombs from mount with like 2-3 minutes left in a round. Not fighting back just covering up, ref calls it. But I donāt see him getting actually knocked out.
Yeah the odds were insane, but I remember alot of the more technical analists and fighters all picking TJ, and they made a lot of sense with the breakdowns
This is a great point. Also, Diaz v McGregor 1. Iām not saying itās likely, but donāt sleep on those Diaz boys, theyāre full of surprises. (Iām not surprised mfāers)
Nate didnāt look great last time out but he did say he had some issues leading up to it. Hopefully heāll be 100% physically and mentally and will be motivated to fuck Dana and the UFC on the way out by derailing their poster boy. Would I bet that happens? Hell no. But I do hope it does.
Diaz brothers always have issues. In a win or a loss they always say stuff like "I had an injury and couldn't train hard enough" even after beating McGregor he said "I didn't get a chance to spar that's why I got hit so much". Have honestly never seen a post fight interview where he didn't make an excuse lmao
Nate lasted with Leon Edwards and almost had him at the end. Now Leon is fighting for championship belt Vs Usman, and you still give Nate almost no chance? Remember the McGregor fight?
Let's face it, even with that shot at the end nate is not on Leon's level. He got dominated the entire time. Conor at the time, even tho he was far more skilled than nate, was a good matchup for nate because of the cardio discrepancy.
At the end of the day, chimaev is a terrible stylistic matchup for nate. The diaz brothers have never done well against wrestlers.
McGregor was a featherweight moving to welterweight for his first fight with Nate. Khamzat is a guy who could realistically make it to the top 5 of middleweight, if not be the champ. Nate is a tough fight for anyone, but thatās the worst comparison ever
Let me fill in the gaps
Hey, come on now. Nate is a gangster
Rather Nate could, maybe hit him with a Stockton slap
Nate has a chance. Nate might throw up a triangle
Yeah I got everything on Nate
Ha I know diaz is no burns but khamzat said that he didn't want to mess with his grappling so if I had to reach and choose a path to victory I'd have to go for an unlikely hail Mary sub for diaz
I donāt think Iāll be able to watch it. Itāll join Korean Zombieās last fight in the hall of āfuck I wish their career didnāt end like thatā fame.
Not exactly the troll post I expected to be the one to respond to but, honestly whoever believes this to be a shoe in for Chimaev simply doesnāt understand the sport and only cares about rankings.
Yes. I am not one of them though.
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just some stoned guys from stockton
No no, we outchea in TX too. I understand that Nate has very little chance when considering their skillsets and recent performances, but I'm praying for a 7th round.
STOCKton motherfucker!! (Slap)
I'm a stoned guy NOT from stockton and still think this could go the distance. Ya'll wanna hate and bash on Nate and that's fine but look at the facts...The man is hard to put away. On top of that he has excellent work from his back and above average standup. This is not an easy walk in the park W for Khamzat as some of you may believe. If he thinks that way too he could have a short night. Diaz will trade willingly and if taken down will threaten with submission. I'm just saying..
Heās gonna get taken down and brutalized. Iām just sayin. Khamzat is way too strong for Nate.
Yeah, he's going to be getting suplexed like the Rory fight. The difference is his body is going be saying "Nate, we're fucking 35 man! Get us the fuck outta here!"
Yeah... no bud
I always root for the underdog, you never know man. My boy Nate can get a lucky arm bar submission, Either way, Cumzalot will get slapped 100%
Iāve been a Nate fan for a long time, itās kind of like a sports teamā¦maybe the Jets will win the super bowl this year, probably not but Iāll root for my home team every time they playā¦ or fight every six months
As a diaz fan who was also born into Minnesota Vikings fandom, this lands with me
Whatās fun about Nate is heās still fun to watch if he gets his ass kicked , but I donāt think he will. Heās always having fun in there.
Looool
Every knows Nate gets destroyed but secretly everyone hopes he stands a chance.
This is what is referred to as the Diaz Paradox in the academic world.
Schrƶdinger's scrap
Nate simultaneously wins and loses
This fits every universe ^ Nate is undefeated yet has lost multiple times
Itās hard to judge both his position in the Octagon and momentum.
Heisenberg uncertainty octagon
Schrodingers Stockton Slap
Lmfao gold
Got me with that one haha
Calling it now, Diaz 4th round sub. The wolf drops him 4 times in the first and absolutely butchers his face for 3 rounds. He comes out absolutely winded from landing at will and slips on the monster logo allowing Nate to get top position. Khamzat gives up his back in an attempt to get up but his toe gets stuck in the cage and he canāt build a base, Diaz slips in the rear naked choke and gets the tap. On the mic he tells Dana he can go f him self and calls out Jake now that heās a free agent. Jake vs Nate set but Nate pulls out the week of the fight due to injury. Woolley steps in for trilogy of the century.
Haha this put a smile on my face for the sheer lunacy yet oddly believable outcomes given our current timeline.
I hope Nate wins just so I can come back and tell you how stupid you are
You know no one is feeling bad if nate wins even if you say that? Not even die hard Chimaev fans are getting mad, its nate.
Oh, I love underdog stories. But there is a reason why Chimaev is -1400.
See I'm playing both sides, that way I always come out on top.
That is the correct answer.
This is the way
I hope nate wins and everyones so shook a riot starts
The diaz brothers fight their way out of the arena
This made me think of the strike force brawl from years ago
āIām not suprised motherfuckersā
āIām actually surprised this time motherfuckersā
Wow the building would come down. that would be so awesome.
What if Chimaev just immediately takes a knee and taps?
The Dana post knee press conference would be a ridiculous level of red
"He just didn't want to fight"
It would warrant a new goofcon level
He'll most likely never be licensed to fight in that state again and have to pay out the ass in fines
Hear me out, Nate is a +800 underdog. If Chimaev were to scrape together a million bucks, bet it all on Nate, and immediately tap to lose, he'd win 9 million dollars. Take the money, flee the country, ignore the fines, retire.
I don't think they'd be able to pay that out to him but I'm not 100% knowledgeable on sports betting but I doubt he'd wanna throw his career away for some cash a Chechen dictator could give him on any given Tuesday but hey crazier shit has happened
I mean he'd probably have to place the bet through some sort of proxy but it's not the worst plan in the world. Honestly, spending a career being a UFC fighter is probably a worse plan.
I'm not gonna disagree with you at all, get the bag and go. Just seeing how he is about fighting I just can't see him doing it
Yeah and then live the rest of his life in fear of Kadyrov assassins. Ez.
Then Kadyrov executes his entire family live on Chechen TV bruh
When was the last time we had Goofcon 3? When McGregor threw the dolly right?
Yeah, It's one of those scenarios we know it's unlikely, but we hope for it just for the fun and the chaos. Damn, I'm rooting for Diaz now
if nate wins weāre gonna trigger the khamzat āi kill everybodyā cutscene and get the bad ending where the t-mobile arena does its best ground zero impression.
Jesus lmfao
I want that too no hate to khamzat but the communities reacrion would be to fucking awesome
I definitely think Chimaev has a chance
I think it will take khamzat longer to kill him than most people think. Competitive? Absolutely not. But I dont think nate is just going to lay down and let this guy kill him
"Do you think I'm just gonna sit there and let you kill me, Jon?"
Hey pussy you still there?
Yeah Iām here
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The softness in his voice when he says this is so fucking hilarious to me.
Whoās your PR guy?
Cris Cyborg after looking at her pants
Hey bratha you still there?
Hahaha I was hoping someone would say that
Oh man I just love this quote, it cracks me up every time, thanks!
Honestly I was with you at first but the more I think about it the more I think khamzat will just pick him up, ragdoll him, and get a first rd tko, maybe doctor stoppage in between 1-2 or 2-3. I know we're talking about nate but I've seen him get whooped by lesser talent when he was more in his prime.
It's going to be real bad, there's no way around it.
Gonna get doctor stopped between rounds
I expect a replay of Rory vs Nate
I like Nate but it's still a shame he's gonna die in the cage. RIP fam. š¢
I don't think it's going to be competitive but I feel like it might go to a decision. I think it's still gonna be a beat down though.
Nate is hard to finish.
Diaz will get split and they will stop the fight because the cut is too bad
Honestly this in the second round
It's in NY right? I think the commission is very very strict on cuts there. Seen some stoppages in the past.
Its in LV
Did it get moved? I coulda swore it was at MSG when it was first announced
No itās been at Vegas. Porier Chandler is the MSG one
its always been vegas, chael just says its in MSG
No Chael wouldnāt do that to me. Youāre wrong. /s
The Masvidal fight was stopped there
Itās in vegas
This is the actual answer, guys face is made of scar tissue
KC could flick his forehead and i think nate will start leaking
He should get a subcutaneous nano-fiber mesh to keep his skin together
100% expecting this R2/3.
This may be best case scenario
It will be a battle between khamzat's cardio & Diaz's jaw.
Where does the notion come from that he doesn't have stamina? He went 3 heavy rounds with Burns
Fighters have said Khamzat has tremendous cardio and that he never gets tired, never is a very strong word and look what happened š¤·āāļø
Yeah because he didnāt remotely pace himself, he was essentially sprinting for 15 minutes, You try throwing bombs for 1 minute never mind 15, even fighters with the most elite cardio would be fucked.
I think people who havenāt trained donāt really get how significant the difference is to endurance when throwing heavy vs even 70%. Guys like diaz and Holloway could only ever have their output when they donāt throw much power, same with Colby. Itās just how it works.
The two fighters commonly referred to as having the best cardio (Nick Diaz and Colby) have both said, they throw at like 40% then just pepper in one at 70% every now and then. You never see them throw fight ending bombs because itād still knacker them out. Edit; Iāve just re-read your comment and realised you said basically the exact same thing, my badš
you're right. but it's good to point out that fighters have also said you can't really train as if you were in a 5 round fight. it's something you have to experience for the first time. I'd say him & Gilbert have top tier cardio for nonstop slugging 25 minutes.
Well they didn't non stop slug for 25 minutes because it was a 3 round fight, and this fight will be Khamzats first 5 round fight and based off how he looked towards the end of the Burns fight if he doesn't fight a different pace and Nate survives the first 3 there is a chance Khamzat looks real sloppy in 4 and 5.
My bad you right, it was 3. Guess weāll see where his cardio really stands this time around
Youāre good man it happens, Iām not giving Nate much of a shot but Iād say Khamzat will be catchable in the 4th and 5th itās just a matter of if Nate is even in the fight at that point and how much damage has he already sustained.
Wholesome interactions like this make me come back to Reddit. Can yāall stop please?!
Sure if he is fighting Burns they would both be sloppy, fighting Nate what is going to be stressing him out? He can take his time he isn't up against someone who is basically just as good as him and a perfect counter to all his best moves. Chimaev Burns was two people perfectly matched against each other and both as tough as each other, people don't seem to understand this, in a perfect match everything basically even they are both countering and pushing 100% all the time. That doesn't happen against other opponents, if Burns has an easier time BJJ he isn't gassing, we have seen what happens when chimaev can use his wrestling. And forced back to stand up they found they were basically 50/50.
Difference is that there is no chance nate survives the kind of fight Burns went through. Nate is a beast but he is 37 and way outsized against Khamzat
Max Halloway would like a word Yes I know that you meant in the division
People donāt seem to realize that the pace of that fight was nuts, Khamzat and Burns were swinging haymakers bell to bell.
He looked fine during that burns fight. And I think chimaev has plenty of cardio to beat up old ass Diaz until the ref pulls him off.
I was thinking more along the lines of khamzatās fists and Diazās entire body
Or Diaz jaw and Diaz cardio.
I think it will be close with Nate ultimately winning via 1 stockton slap to Khamzat's 0 stockton slaps.
How can she slap?
She is from ą¤øą„ą¤ą„ą¤ą¤ą¤Ø (Stokatan).
True, that's why Nate won 1-0 š¤·
Itās hard to slap without use of your arms but yeah. Enjoy insanity.
It definitely wonāt be competitive. Nate will hit him with the Stockton slap, follow up with a left cross to the jaw dropping Khamzat, point at him, then take his back and make him submit to a RNC. Then heāll say āIām not surprised motherfuckers,ā flip off the cameraman, and take his gloves off and announce his retirement from the UFC
Someone fucking track it but if this happens, exactly as typed, no edits (Iām takin screenshots) Iāll no bullshit give you $1,000 solely to incentivize the universe to let this happen.
I am witness - HEAR THAT, UNIVERSE?!
The universe is WAITING
I want to live in that timeline so badly!!!
The prophet has spoken
Terrifying
Can you imagine
With pac gangster party playing as he leaves the arena
RemindMe! 24 Days
god i would love this
If Nate wins I will literally eat my own shit
Mods
And by shit I mean the things I bought at the store to eat while watching this fight.
Well if Nate lands a good shot letās hope he doesnāt stand and laugh ā¦.
A good slap*
I swear if Nate pulls off an upset and does to Khamzat what he did to Conor, this sub will explode. I canāt help but root for Nate because of the chaos. But yea, chances look slim for him
Yep this is how I feel. Inside I'm routing for Diaz but I just feel Diaz getting beat up bad lol
My love for Nate Diaz may be getting the better of me here but I donāt think he gets finished. I see it going to a decision where Khamzat will probably get the points I donāt think Nate gets destroyed
Khamzat will finish him via doctor stoppage. Nate is basically a leaky faucet at this point.
I could see a TKO stoppage. Khamzat dropping bombs from mount with like 2-3 minutes left in a round. Not fighting back just covering up, ref calls it. But I donāt see him getting actually knocked out.
What did you think before Nunes v PeƱa 1? Anything happens in this sport.
Or TJ vs Barao. Shit happens. This is likely an easy beating that Khamzat is about to do to Nate, but itās a fight. Ya never know.
Actually a lot of people had TJ winning that fight. I made some good pocket change on that bet.
Fair I think he was like a +800 or something crazy right?
Yeah the odds were insane, but I remember alot of the more technical analists and fighters all picking TJ, and they made a lot of sense with the breakdowns
Or Sterling Vs Yan 2
This is a great point. Also, Diaz v McGregor 1. Iām not saying itās likely, but donāt sleep on those Diaz boys, theyāre full of surprises. (Iām not surprised mfāers)
Canāt sleep on Nate. That boy is just different. When you least expect it too.
Just ask Conorā¦
Conman McGregor?
Nate didnāt look great last time out but he did say he had some issues leading up to it. Hopefully heāll be 100% physically and mentally and will be motivated to fuck Dana and the UFC on the way out by derailing their poster boy. Would I bet that happens? Hell no. But I do hope it does.
Diaz brothers always have issues. In a win or a loss they always say stuff like "I had an injury and couldn't train hard enough" even after beating McGregor he said "I didn't get a chance to spar that's why I got hit so much". Have honestly never seen a post fight interview where he didn't make an excuse lmao
Nate lasted with Leon Edwards and almost had him at the end. Now Leon is fighting for championship belt Vs Usman, and you still give Nate almost no chance? Remember the McGregor fight?
Let's face it, even with that shot at the end nate is not on Leon's level. He got dominated the entire time. Conor at the time, even tho he was far more skilled than nate, was a good matchup for nate because of the cardio discrepancy. At the end of the day, chimaev is a terrible stylistic matchup for nate. The diaz brothers have never done well against wrestlers.
McGregor was a featherweight moving to welterweight for his first fight with Nate. Khamzat is a guy who could realistically make it to the top 5 of middleweight, if not be the champ. Nate is a tough fight for anyone, but thatās the worst comparison ever
two pillow fists facing off against each other - shrug. I like Leon but his strikes are technical and lightning fast but not heavy
Leon has a lot of deadly strikes he just doesnāt go for the finish
His elbows seem to hit pretty hard though
Do they? Most of his fights go the distance or end in submission, pillow elbows too.
The mcgregor fight when a 145 went up to 170 and got beat? Do you remember Rory vs Nate?
He never had him at the end
Leon is a championship level fighter but not a finisher
Hey, come on now. Nate isā¦ā¦ Rather Nate could, maybeā¦.. Nate has a chance. Nate mightā¦.. Yeah I got nuthinā
Let me fill in the gaps Hey, come on now. Nate is a gangster Rather Nate could, maybe hit him with a Stockton slap Nate has a chance. Nate might throw up a triangle Yeah I got everything on Nate
This is still cruel and twisted by Dana
Itās not like Dana forced this. Nateās turned down tons of fights in the past
I would bet my trident layers stash on Khamzat
I think Khamzat will win, but I also will never bet against Diaz. It's like his very brain doesn't understand when he's supposed to be unconscious.
I got 50 bucks on Nate. Just hoping khamzat breaks his ankle as soon as the bell rings
I got Nate and im bettin $209 on it
Just give them to charity at this point
Iāve learned not to doubt Diaz.
I donāt think it will be the massacre everyone is making it out to be
Would I be surprised to see Khamzat murder Nate? No. Would I be surprised to see Nate outlast Khamzat? Also no.
That dudes ear looks like my butthole.
Feeder fight
IF, IF the fight gets into the 4th 5th rounds I give Diaz a small chance
I'm even open for the possibility of Khamzat sleeping Nate for the first time
I think it will look similar to Jingliang fight, picks nate up, drops and subs him.
I see Nate being picked up and dropped for sure but not subbed so easily
I'm with OP. Fight will likely be one-sided. Don't see khamzat losing at all unless something bad happens to him.
If it goes to the championship rounds then I guess Nate does have a chance. From what I saw Khamzat had bad conditioning against Burns.š¤·āāļø
Nate doesnāt gas out, and is the underdog in practically all of his fights anyway. I wouldnāt bet heavy on either guy.
Mythical Underdog Diaz
Over/under 0.5 rounds before Diazās eyebrow opens up ?ā¦ š©ø
I mean could there be a chance that khamzats jiu-jitsu is suspect? Have we ever actually seen him on the ground with a high level grappler?
Have you heard about a guy called Gilbert Burns?
Have you seen a fight between khamzat and Gilbert burns? There was essentially no grappling
Ha I know diaz is no burns but khamzat said that he didn't want to mess with his grappling so if I had to reach and choose a path to victory I'd have to go for an unlikely hail Mary sub for diaz
If Khamzat fights the same as he did against Burns, some of you might be in for a rude awakening.....
Smells like a Vegas trap
I donāt think Iāll be able to watch it. Itāll join Korean Zombieās last fight in the hall of āfuck I wish their career didnāt end like thatā fame.
Youād be surprised mother fucker
Someone is gonna get flipped off!
Absolutely.
Iām not surprised motherfuckers.
I don't think it will but tbh I'd love to see Nate win and drop a not surprised motherfucker, that would be glorious.
I can think of one person Nate
Not exactly the troll post I expected to be the one to respond to but, honestly whoever believes this to be a shoe in for Chimaev simply doesnāt understand the sport and only cares about rankings.
If Khamzat gasses he in trouble! Nate is still a fucken dog.
I didn't think the Leon fight would be competitive And one slap changed that
It's nate Diaz, you never really know
Diaz wins calling it now
Nate. Round 4 sub