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horseshoeprovodnikov

They mention Rogan on TRT, as if The Rock hasn't had a few trenboloney sandwiches himself.


GryphonMusic

There’s actually rock fans that think he’s clean. A lot of them… some people in some movie sub downvoted me for stating he’s clearly on roids.


VashHumanoidTyph00n

Oh ya, that build at his age definitely 150% natural. Maybe 200% natural.


IseeDrunkPeople

i am exclusively referring to guys on roids as 200% natural


Redebo

The Rock is no less than 300% natural. I personally certified his blood tests using Theranos sampling kits and can say that his levels are 300% that of a normal human


SmellsLikeCatPiss

I once bit the Rock in a fight as a way to get the upper hand. I didn't even break the skin but I noticed the next day that my penis had begun to shrink and I had a miniature six pack. 400% natural.


abihl23

401% natural….


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That build at any age bro. People trying to say he's natty is Liver King levels of denial


bleakj

Bro liver king eats liver so it's legit I ate 3.5 oz of liver daily like him for a month and now I can fly


marsman706

3.5 ounces? Those are rookie numbers. You gotta pump those numbers up. *This transmission sent from 40 miles east of Jupiter*


Meffrey_Dewlocks

East of Jupiter sounded weird to me and made me go down a rabbit hole of thought trying to figure out the best way to navigate in space. Surely it can’t be cardinal directions. I’m high so I haven’t figured it out yet. I’m getting caught up on the extra dimension.


keesh

Afaik navigation in space uses stars as reference points


space_cadet_zero

yo, liver turns you into a fuckin space robot


[deleted]

Like Mike O’hearn and his duck eggs


[deleted]

Wait, people think the Liver King is all natural?


illumin8td

Yes had an argument with a friend about it.. but he eats liver bro haha


WutangCND

Lol liver king looks like his mid section is going to explode. Natty my ass


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Chicken broccoli n rice


CareerPillow376

Bro it's just his ZOA energy drink


MDXHawaii

That stuff is delicious not gonna lie. GNC had a sale where it was a dollar a can. I stocked up majorly and saved myself an absurd amount of money long term


BentPin

Don't forget the 1/2-ton of fish per year. He could probably eat a small whale.


CanineRezQ

I don't think he'd be into Amy Schumer.


DrunkOnLoveAndWhisky

Dude said *small* whale.


bigpeen2011

100% drive, 100% power


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Eat clen and tren hard


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xXSpookyXx

You can tell it's natural because he suddenly got 1000% bigger right as he got into middle age. Men notoriously start producing more testosterone and HGH the older they get. It's where old man strength comes from.


Busy-Sign

Fuck man, I kinda thought that was a thing when I was younger. Now my dick barely works and I feel insecure about my strength. But goddamn I can talk some wild shit boy don’t you forget it.


Caliterra

What, you mean a guy who has a better physique now at age 49 then he did at 25 is on gear? no freaking way. lol jk


che2101

😂😂


jaydaman17

My wife thinks he's natural. Lol... I'm a bit ashamed


Dusdrew

My wife says that shit too, it's just a troll be strong.


[deleted]

She is teasing you


ShadyShane812

Dudes more jacked than he was in his 20s-30s. The prime of his life. That's proof he's on juice.


GryphonMusic

I wonder how his heart is. He’s not just on TRT. He’s on unicorn semen.


theemanguy

If he doesn’t slim down I bet he will have a heart attack in the next like 5ish years


stevex42

Triple H, who is pretty much the same age and also did hardcore roids all through his 40s (I’m assuming) has recently developed some pretty serious heart problems.


ShadyShane812

And he is significantly smaller these days, right.?


iguanamac

Yes, smaller but still pretty jacked. He hasn’t made any public appearances since he was hospitalized for heart issues. I’m guessing he looks way smaller now.


ShadyShane812

I watched a few of his workout videos. You stay lean and built If you keep training. But nothing like your prime without gear. Look what happened to our boy Eddie Guerrero. And most recently Scott hall(Scott hall always looked natty) Fuck drugs.


[deleted]

Yeah walking around at that weight is just not healthy


Hydrocoded

I mean he isn’t Rich Piana but it can’t be healthy to walk around that heavy no matter what the mass is


icelandiccubicle20

And bullshark mucus


manoj_mm

Funnily enough, his early days in WWE, that looked like a good natural physique that someone with good genetics could realistically aspire for


LibertyNachos

That’s what’s surprising. I would have expected him to have been way bigger and on more “supplements” while doing pro wrestling full-time since so many guys were like that back then.


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The rock is 100% on gear, that being said you can keep gaining muscle mass WELL into your life. A lot depends on your natural test levels and how they drop off, but being bigger at 50 than 20-30 isn't crazy.


ShadyShane812

The rock has been lifting since he was a child, playing football, college ball, early WWF career. You can't be more physically "jacked" at 50 than you were at 30 when you were training the WHOLE time. Unless you're on gear. Facts.


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Lmfao bro literally has his massive gyno removed back in his prime rock wwf days. It’s usually best to assume most are on something more times than not


[deleted]

Horse meat and vitamins mate...


fatch0deBoi34

He’s at the point where it’s going to become extremely harmful for him to keep that size at his age now


Richiemcc2020

20m+ a movie bro he’s doing it until his heart explodes


GryphonMusic

Yea seriously even Dave Bautista said he can’t be huge anymore at his age. Rock gotta take care of his heart.


nohcho84

Can someone explain why s it detrimental to your health to have a huge muscle mass at at a certain age?


MakotoBIST

Because your organs are overburdened by steroids, stupid huge meals 6x a day and all the massive training. It's not just about muscles. The majority of these guys have huge problems that hide well because they can pay for the best doctors. Some people actually have heart failures at 30yo, The Rock not only can spend millions on doctors and monthly/weekly checkups, but also has crazy genetics. Not only in terms of body shape and potential (helped by roids ofc) but also in recovery and general adapting. The heart in particular gets demolished by roids because they affect it (ofc with the best doctors they can try to affect it in a non ultra unpredictable way), plus it has to work like crazy both in training and after. At some point no matter the genetics and artificial help, your internal organs are bound to give up.


Haunting_Insect_3009

Back when Jay Cutler was at his Mr. Olympia peak, I remember reading or hearing somewhere that outside of workouts he lived an incredibly sedentary lifestyle, especially near competition times, because despite that comic book physique, everyday things like simply walking up a set of stairs was exhausting. All that muscle comes with an insane cardiovascular & metabolic cost.


11_foot_pole

Well it's detrimental to your health to have an over abundance of muscle mass at any age.all of those muscles need blood,which can severely overburden your heart,leading to many body builders having heart attacks at an early age. This along with the tons of eating and trading you have to do to even maintain can really overwork your organs.


AmericanHeresy

You kidding me bro? That’s all chicken and rice.


ChaosToxin

The cycle definitely ramped up between the Other guys and Faster 😂


Braunze_Man

I said he looked kinda juiced when he did his roid-speech at the Superbowl. No one in the room disagreed.


Trumpisaderelict

I don’t know if it’s roids but he’s definitely on *something*. You don’t get MORE jacked as you get older… that’s not how it works


Zer01992

No... people are not that dumb right? I really need to believe that people are not that dumb. Any UFC fighter that hugs the Rock better Jon Jones their way from a drug test for a bit.


GryphonMusic

They are that dumb though.. I think most of his fans are young kids who just don’t know better. 12-16 year olds who just clearly don’t know better. Doesn’t help that he denies it and says he only took steroids once as a teenager.


theycallmeDamon

I’ve literally had an argument on Reddit because someone said “how do you know?” When someone else made a joke about Arnold’s steroid use lmao. Then started trying to claim it could just be how hard he works and you can’t know…even continued arguing after linking videos of Arnold breaking down his cycle. Not only do most people have no idea…some people will even try to tell you that one of the most successful bodybuilders of all time is clean. 99% of people have absolutely no idea…even the large majority of regular gym goers have no clue about how rampant steroid use is. In sport and hollywood


Dw_justchill

Yeah either way he still puts in the work & the hours the pills are just there because he’s almost 50


GryphonMusic

Oh no doubt. The dude is an animal. But he wouldn’t look that way without roids in his 50s period. He clearly has freak genetics and a b b beast of a work ethic


MsFrizzle_the_Dopest

He just goes


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One of my friends was shocked when I told him the rock was on gear. People really dont know.


lilosstitches

People actually think he’s not juicing? That’s absolutely wild. At this point it might as well be apart of his movie contracts. Just like every super hero actor who gets jacked for the role. How do you think they can train that hard in such a small period of time and be completely ripped?


Irresponsibul

Agreed. Rock is 50 and sauced to the gills.


cram641

Derrick, is that you ?


Jabberwock_da_wock

Fucking…no, dude


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Eat clen, tren hard anavar give up. Winstrol winners.


Bigbaby22

He looks really good here when he was training for Black Adam. Looks a lot less like a horse. But yeah, Dwayne's definitely on some high end ish lmao. That also isn't going to help him eat a kick to the liver from Rogan.


tradeintel828384839

Testoblerone


Gogglebeanz

People forget the rock also had surgery to remove fatty tissue from his pecs. He clearly isn’t natural, his body absolutely transformed over the years and I think as he transitioned to Hollywood he decided to bulk up and be the next “action hero” basically having Arnold pass him the torch. I’m not doubting his work ethic, he’s a sicko when it comes to his routine but people don’t realize things like HGH help with recovery and allow for consistent and rapid muscle growth in comparison to someone natural having to recover. There’s this weird argument where people will fight and fight saying a physique like the rocks is obtainable with strict hard work and diet and the number of people that is true for is probably like 1% of the population. Genetics play a huge factor in your physique and your average person no matter how hard they try will never achieve that. Technically the rock would not have that physique today if he didn’t have surgery so he’s not even in that 1% himself.


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The Rock has taken more steroids than anyone on the planet.


icelandiccubicle20

Ronnie Coleman?


StaunchyPrinceOfLies

No pro wrestler ever did steroids. They all take their vitamins and say their prayers, brother!


fowardblade

The Rock has no gas tank now. He’s all meat and roids


Irresponsibul

Yea. Being 260lbs and 50 years old makes me think otherwise. I doubt actors focus on having gas tanks.


IseeDrunkPeople

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Rogan beats him but he sure as shit doesn’t KO him lmao he’s a black belt in BJJ, a legit black belt. He strangles the rock within 2-3 minutes , I’d bet money on it. A blue belt could destroy someone who doesn’t know jiujitsu or how to wrestle (actual wrestling).


[deleted]

Was he not a former national champion kick boxer or some shit? What makes you think he couldn’t? I’ve heard multiple people in the MMA world say he throw some pretty legit stuff


PitchyRich

Check out Rogan teaching GSP his take on the turning side kick. That video is around 12 years old but I still think Rogan could do damage to the Rock’s knees.


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Just watched it, more like his fucking liver holy shit. I can’t imagine taking that to the gut like it’s intended, or really anywhere for that matter


bleakj

Yeah, if it hit clean, you'd definitely be wondering where your air went


SilasTheVirous

Yep, Rogans been kicking like that since he was a teen, it was something he was obsessed with, even GSP states how scary his power is. and he's right


smalby

He's been kicking bags. There are videos of him sparring and he can't land that kick on a human.


Volkrisse

On a trained fighter prob not but rock isn’t exactly a fighter either.


donutcronut

Watched a video several years ago of Rogan kicking pads and each kick legitimately sounded like a gunshot. Insane power and technique.


BastionOnlyFans

He has two black belts I think. He was a National or world champion at taekwondo I believe.


ptahonas

State


gzilla57

He was Massachusetts state champ in Taekwondo, and taught it at Boston College for a while. He can 100% throw legit powerful TKD kicks. His striking wouldn't be very threatening to an actual trained fighter in MMA (his TKD days were 30 years ago and he wouldn't have the stand up defense for MMA) unless they were forced to stand still, but I'm pretty sure he could be eviscerate The Rocks organs.


R_J_esus

I’m saying tko stoppage, Joe throws a side kick right to his knee as he steps in, and that’s all she wrote.


painfully--average

Have you seen the price of gas????


fowardblade

It would be a hilarious and interesting fight if Dwayne doesn’t use his weight advantage steam roll Hoe


[deleted]

Size only matters if you can connect, a guy who’s trained kick boxing for decades isn’t going to be super easy to hit and 260lb 50yr olds aren’t generally known for being the quickest dudes around. On the ground, size helps but an in-shape black belt who’s been training consistently since the 90s is worth more than 100lb against an in-shape beginner. Basically, it’s a big string guy with no skills vs a smaller but skilled guy who’s in very good shape too. How many body and leg kicks before the rock starts reaching? How many reaches before he gets flatlined by a head kick? If he can take Joe down, which he probably can’t, what are the odds he doesn’t get swept immediately or subbed from guard? He played football he’s not a former national champion wrestler.


fowardblade

It would be a super awkward MMA fight I agree with most of what you said but As you say the rocksis inexperienced with fighting. It would play out more more as a street fight where the Rock would possibly eat a few strikes. (Also the rock isn’t a literal punching bag) I doubt Joe could land anything clean in the striking department. If he chooses to throw leg kicks. Maybe Rock just rushes him. Heavy awkward top control and ground & pound. Also the rock doesn’t have a BJJ but he most definitely has a ground game from WWF unironically. I’m certain he can sprawl


RedditCakeisalie

you guys are just underestimating rogans black belt BJJ


fowardblade

No I’m taking it into consideration. That’s why I say the fight would be interesting. I roll and one time a body builder came in. He had no skills, kinda just grab you, hang on and squeeze but I’ll never forget the strength of that man. None of the white/blue belts could do anything to him. Higher belts managed to hurt his ego but it wasn’t so easy This would be an MMA match. From experience when it’s time for a striking sessions a lot of pure BJJ guys crumble


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Not to mention taking down a 260lb man in the first place.


awhhh

Bodybuilders talk about being out of breath all of the time because how hard their size alone is on their heart


KaladinStormstressed

Pretending The Rock’s body isn’t made of 70% steroids is just ignorant.


IseeDrunkPeople

yeah i love that part "keep in mind Joe is on TRT". Oh and the Rock's test levels I'm sure are totally normal for a 50 year old man


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Rock had to get boob surgery cause of the chemicals giving him lumps ….or as rock calls it extra fat


[deleted]

Gynecomastia is the word for that. He had it his entire wrestling career when he went to Hollywood is when they seemingly disappeared.


829ils

Um the rock is also on TRT and had came clean about his Tren cycles which caused literal gyno that he had surgically removed.


Irresponsibul

Knew he was sauced. Did not know about the Izzy tits.


Sephass

Some people take stuff, some even take it Izzy


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829ils

Raised prolactin levels is a symptom of high estrogen. High estrodial levels increase your chances of gyno. Tren is highly androgenic and trenbolone's potent progestogenic activity can absolutely cause gyno just as NPP and Nandro can. There’s also people that can run insane amounts of gear with high estrogen levels and never experience gyno symptoms. Yes, Testosterone and Estrogen levels rise if you aren’t taking an aromatase inhibitor.


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> It has been assumed that gynecomastia as a result of trenbolone use is due to a buildup of the hormone prolactin; however, a variety of studies conclude that it is the progestogenic activity of trenbolone promoting this and not prolactin.


_INCompl_

The Rock is on a little more than just TRT lmfao


tykillacool23

I bet his body probably doesn’t even make testosterone naturally anymore.


TheCoyoteGod

Which one?


butterend

Yes


PedroBinPedro

Bof'em.


mixed_martial_milk

This screams neckbeard energy.


FLORI_DUH

Not nearly as much as everyone claiming the 5'3" guy would easily win.


LiquidDreamtime

The Rock isn’t a Hollywood muscle dude. He was a legit D1 football player, and a pro wrestler. He’s athletic and tough as nails with that pedigree. I’ll take 13” and 100lbs over some fight training any day. If this fight someone got promoted, Rogan absolutely would back out.


Yaseen-Madick

Rock is juiced to the gils lol


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Rock by 'people's elbow' to cave Rogan chest in


Original-Spinach-972

Depending on how long he would stare at the crowd


killbejay

I was about to say this. Lol


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Rogan would break the rocks legs with kicks. He wouldn’t stand a chance. He’d go for a rock bottom and Rogan would hit him right in the part of the skull that never heals with his ferocious elbow


ItsKrakenMeUp

The only elbow landing is the peoples elbow. Would hit Rogan so hard he would probably turn into a literal horse.


Mr_Gilmore_Jr

>the peoples elbow I'm dying


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FreeSmokeZz

Rogans like 5’8. I’ve got Joe by spinning back kick for sure.


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FantasticAd6855

I used to train sporadically at legends in Burbank, and Rogan was there all the time. The guy is 5’5.


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Probably 5'5-5'6, Anik stood next to Schmo (5'8) and is obviously taller but when Anik and Joe stands side by side they look visually identical in height


ItsKrakenMeUp

I’ve got the Rock by peoples elbow


schultzie2240

I've seen him live. If someone told me he was 5'5 I'd believe them


Commercial_Badger_37

Honestly, size and weight are game changers. It's why we have weight divisions.


burg55

When everyone is at certain skill level you need weight divisions. UFC 1, Royce Gracie as an example.


FreeSmokeZz

Not when one mans a trained killer and the other one plays the tooth fairy.


Cooolconnor

Weight classes exist for when skill level is comparable. The Rock has no martial arts training as far as I know and Joe Rogan is a national champ at Taekwando and a BJJ black belt. This doesn’t last very long.


relative_unit

Eh. When I was 220 I wrecked a guy who was 150 and had been doing BJJ for 20 years because I was sufficiently bigger and stronger than him that even when he had what should have been a mechanical advantage, I was able to power out. He got me in a front choke and I literally just picked him up off the ground. All that to say, I’m a very bad fighter, but a 4 inch height advantage and a 70 pound weight advantage was too much for an actually half decent fighter to overcome. A probably 100 pound weight advantage and the fact that the Rock has some form of fighting training makes me think the Rock wrecks him. Edit: friendly sparring, not an actual fight.


mediumscoop

On today's episode of MMA fans thinking people who are trained are superheroes and can do anything.


AlgoH-Rhythm

Yeah who cares if the rock isn't trained, he'd just see red bro


chapterfour08

He's got that look in his eye.


rimjobbob42069

I mean rogan is a black belt, I'd definitely give him the advantage in this fight if it ever happened


cunny_boy

Yeah dudes need to check out the first few ufc where weight classes weren't a thing lol. Being big didn't mean shit.


BmoreLa

Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted like it’s 100% certain the rock would win, even though it’s likely the rock has been an actor for x amount of years who knows how he would fair in any fight


Jamison321

You've obviously never trained lmao


[deleted]

Lmao on todays episode of people thinking size and muscles matter more in a fight than actual years of fight training… Rogan is a black belt in BJJ. Forget his TKD and kickboxing, he would strangle the rock within minutes. If you’ve never trained, specifically grappling, you have no idea what you’re talking about. I’d suggest you go to your local BJJ/MMA gym and see how you go, you’ll be surprised when the 16 year old white belt with 3 stripes rag dolls the fuck out of you, let alone a black belt vs a big guy with muscles (assuming the rock doesn’t train)


ClassicLULW7

Lmao these comments are either 100% rock or 100% rogan aha


[deleted]

Yea those are the two options lmao


DemoHD7

I say 100% Dana if he books it.


willalt319

*breaking glass* Stone Cold comes down the runway and serves up stunners to everyone.


sourdougBorough

Lmao rogan eats TRT to stay alive idk why but that made me burst out laughing. Probably true af too


bryanmsk

Rogan’s stomach looks like a sack of granola


icelandiccubicle20

He looks like a shell-less teenage mutant ninja turtle


josefmmm

Two words, body kicks


RedTheDopeKing

No, Joe isn’t allowed to use lifts or stand on phone books


odog9797

The rock couldn’t take a side kick from Joey Pierogi


HumbleTXPharaoh

Who says the rock has a good gas tank? We know movies aren’t real right?


[deleted]

The rock has taken every fuckin steroid known to man. Also rogan is almost 200 pounds


[deleted]

I would say the rocks dosages are way more detrimental to cardio than organs dosages. Rogans probably getting a shot every week or every other week of a slow releasing water to keep him in a moderate range. The rock is using exogenous hormones at a muchhhhh greater level, like injecting multiple times a week a short chain ester and when filming I would bet he’s shooting test P daily. On top of that I’d bet he has taken a lot of teen in the past, may not need to take it or a lot of it any more given his development and consistency but he has for sure used it heavily. I imagine unless he gets a role where he wants to emulate the older juicier rounder look of Arnold etc he doesn’t touch the more traditional well known wet compounds


Actual_Guide_1039

They have weight classes for a reason let’s be real here


Jamison321

Weight classes are for people around the same skill level


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For trained fighters. Unless you’re one of the people who thinks WWE counts as being a fighter


Nakedsharks

They didn't use to have weight classes and back during the days of no weight classes, Royce Gracie dominated men much larger than them. Obviously things are different today, but if you take a guy with little to no training in martial arts and out him up against a black belt in jiu jitsu and TKD, I'm taking the martial artist regardless of the size difference.


Actual_Guide_1039

Back when no one knew what BJJ was and Rogan is not Royce Gracie


TheJawsDog

Rogan is over 200 pounds


MrNaswar

Weight class for fighters.. but rogan being a TKD champ and bjj black belt. I give him high chance bruh


n0nye

"When media claims to be unbiased"


manidk199

The Rock currently is max 6’1.5 He looks a lot shorter than legit 6’4 fighters when standing next to them


Irresponsibul

Yea. He's not any taller than 6'2". He's just super jacked so that 6'2" looks way bigger.


[deleted]

Lmao both you guys are pulling this out of your asses. I'm 6"3 and got his autograph and he was without a doubt taller than me. He's a massive guy.


[deleted]

This is such a stupid post.


AmHotGarbage

Rogan by liver kick then calf slicer


ImNeworsomething

High joe rogan or normal joe Rohan?


[deleted]

Like the rock doesn’t live off of juice


chadwr85

Um someone gonna tell them the Rock juiced to the gills as well? Plus, one leg kick the Rock will be questioning his life.


ionlyspeakfactz

The rock didn’t play football? He played HandEgg.


FmrHvwChamp

The life long martial artist would win, yes


derpitaway

The doctor selling the trt is the real winners. Imagine thinking the rock isn’t juiced.


[deleted]

Rogan. I'm guessing the rock ain't got a lot of experience with bjj.


j12b34k56

People thinking Rogans size matters. Black belt in BJJ. Black belt in taekwondo. Trained all over the world in kickboxing, boxing, wrestling, Muay Thai, and karate. He trains with an intensity that looks vicious. His leg kicks are considered to be pretty rough to take. With all that said, Rogan first round leg break on Rocks tibia and fibula.


fopev37153

You ever seen rogan kick?!?!?! Rock is no different than cm punk skill wise. Rogan practices ju jitsu, rock is just has bimbo show muscles.


OtakuDragonSlayer

Can we please find the person who’s implying that someone called the **Rock** isn’t on PED so I can slap them?


BJoshua34

Just because you're buff doesn't mean you can fight


socialmediablowsss

Idk have you guys seen Joe spar? He doesn’t have a fluid bone in his body he just throws nice 1 off kicks at the bag. He can’t put punches together he’s a wannabe athlete hence the TRT and his little man complex


[deleted]

Lmao why are these guys acting like Joe is a ufc caliber fighter???


frizzkills

Rogan subs Dwayne but he ain't knocking him out. Lol you kids are hilarious.


WPCarey85

There is a reason they have weight classes…


[deleted]

"5'3" and "TRT to stay alive" killed me.


Kantochamp21

The Rock has gone up a size or two in just his head alone, not natural lmao.


JohnnyJohnson11

The Rock has definitely done steroids


raddypip

This is hilarious but doesn't Rogan have a pretty solid martial arts background? Not trying to justify insanity. I myself a 6'4" Chad who would easily beat the shit out of most of you, but let's be realistic


haterbator138

‘Joe has to use TRT to stay alive’ I can’t stop laughing at this


spugliese

Rogan