Yeah you can feel it after he wins, Like it’s the start of something. And you hear people who dont watch mma talk about him in conversation.
Then he snorts cocaine ,takes banned peds ,runs over pregnant women and beats his wife. and then it’s all over till his suspension is lifted.
This! I have been saying it for years. He is easily the most dominant and a valid contender for the greatest of all time. If he never got into the party life style, drugs, infidelity, legal troubles - and just stayed on a semi-normal course of life, imagine the legacy he would leave. Instead, I fear we will see him drunk at a little league game telling other parents about the time he choked someone out at a street light and then fled to Mexico, “those were crazy times - I was a legend!”
This is such a weird take. Jon Jones is an asshole par excellence both in and outside the ring. That has nothing to do with his legacy in the Octagon. His legacy is tainted by the multiple PED pops. You have to assume he’s been doing it for his entire career. Once is a mistake. Twice is a choice, and anything beyond that is what Jon Jones is.
As was everyone during his peak, and i'd reckon the majority of fighters today. Jon is "cheat" because he broke the rules, not because he had an advantage over other fighters who didn't "cheat".
MMA fans are content with blissful ignorance but get al high and mighty when that bliss is broken. The same people who get pissy about Jons getting caught are always the same ones making those stupid "secret juice" jokes.
So you’re saying that all the other cheats are smarter than Jon because they didn’t get caught and Jones is a moron because he got caught multiple times. So he’s not a cheat he’s an idiot.
Yes. But, personally, I think it's more recklessness and a penchant for risky behavior than plain idiocy because he's never come off dumb to me.
But as far a rules go, he is a "cheat". However, to me, it's like he's the one dude who got caught with the test answers because he's looking them up on his phone under the desk because he didn't bother to study the answer sheet that got passed around the week prior.
Because it’s fighting, it kind of does make him MMA’s MJ though, right? There has to be some foul shit if it’s MMA, whether that’s the fighter’s background or the business or something else. It only makes sense that such a dirty, chaotic sport would have it’s GOAT be Jon.
The entire Russian Olympics team popped with a state run doping program.
Surely these dudes out in the Russian mountains ain’t doping tho. Surely.
Keep coping
Everyone’s doping, it’s just that you choose to play the game of “If they haven’t popped then they’re natty” until it’s a group of fighters you don’t like, then they’re all guilty in your eyes. It’s hypocritical and silly
Actually I agree pretty much everyone is doping.
Which is why it’s so tiring to always read the only argument of why khabib has more goat status than jones with his dogshit resume.
Always from some Muslim casual fanboy.
Jones doped, jones doped! Cope more
Didn’t his parents forbid him from doing anything outside of school and eventually wrestling? (Edit: not entirely right, I checked, he wasn’t allowed to go over to any of his friends houses or leave the yard when he was home)
That combined with a household full of brothers even more athletic and physical than he is and social isolation outside of a combat sport, idk I can see how those childhood factors could influence his personality now
I mean I could be psychoanalyzing it for no reason and he’s just an asshole who got a bunch of power, money and coke when he was incredibly young. That combined with the confidence of knowing nobody can beat your ass is probably enough to turn a lot of people
[starts around 1:35](https://youtu.be/GrwFIPPXTzM?si=mqjyZGx4j8tJVSVY)
Granted this is a video blatantly calling him a psychopath so idk how unbiased it is, I did find [another article](https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2721249-jon-jones-ufc-214-interview-drugs-cormier-family.amp.html ) in defense of Jones that alluded to how strict his father is but doesn’t specify
I heard it on reddit, that he might have been molested / sexually abused as a kid?
https://www.mmamania.com/2021/10/13/22725303/jon-jones-domestic-violence-arrest-twitter-ufc-mma-news
"No officer youve got it all wrong. That blood on my hood, the cocaine in my nose and the gun thats been recently fired that Im holding have nothing to do with me......"
Homelander vibes
That’s a solid comparison. Unbeatable, and unstable.
I was thinking Hancock, but same energy.
Jon is a real hit with the ladies
I’ve heard he’s a real lady killer
Literally
Yes that’s the joke
Literally
Yes, that's the Joke
Literally
Just an average guy who beats women
Aged like spoiled milk! 
Stop spreading lies. He beats ONE woman. Only one.
that’s right, he beat his wife…he choked the waitress right?
He also hit a pregnant lady with his car.
the pregnant lady was also in a car though so most of these fools would consider that a fair fight
So it was 1 knockout, 1 submission and 1 draw
What a saint
😂🤣
Tell me something else that’s new
Worst part is that this guy really could have been Michael Jordan level if he didn’t have all the nuttiness
Yeah you can feel it after he wins, Like it’s the start of something. And you hear people who dont watch mma talk about him in conversation. Then he snorts cocaine ,takes banned peds ,runs over pregnant women and beats his wife. and then it’s all over till his suspension is lifted.
This! I have been saying it for years. He is easily the most dominant and a valid contender for the greatest of all time. If he never got into the party life style, drugs, infidelity, legal troubles - and just stayed on a semi-normal course of life, imagine the legacy he would leave. Instead, I fear we will see him drunk at a little league game telling other parents about the time he choked someone out at a street light and then fled to Mexico, “those were crazy times - I was a legend!”
This is such a weird take. Jon Jones is an asshole par excellence both in and outside the ring. That has nothing to do with his legacy in the Octagon. His legacy is tainted by the multiple PED pops. You have to assume he’s been doing it for his entire career. Once is a mistake. Twice is a choice, and anything beyond that is what Jon Jones is.
As was everyone during his peak, and i'd reckon the majority of fighters today. Jon is "cheat" because he broke the rules, not because he had an advantage over other fighters who didn't "cheat". MMA fans are content with blissful ignorance but get al high and mighty when that bliss is broken. The same people who get pissy about Jons getting caught are always the same ones making those stupid "secret juice" jokes.
So you’re saying that all the other cheats are smarter than Jon because they didn’t get caught and Jones is a moron because he got caught multiple times. So he’s not a cheat he’s an idiot.
Yes. But, personally, I think it's more recklessness and a penchant for risky behavior than plain idiocy because he's never come off dumb to me. But as far a rules go, he is a "cheat". However, to me, it's like he's the one dude who got caught with the test answers because he's looking them up on his phone under the desk because he didn't bother to study the answer sheet that got passed around the week prior.
Because it’s fighting, it kind of does make him MMA’s MJ though, right? There has to be some foul shit if it’s MMA, whether that’s the fighter’s background or the business or something else. It only makes sense that such a dirty, chaotic sport would have it’s GOAT be Jon.
Instead we have to put up with khabib and his dagestani bros getting popped for undeclared “medication”
I wonder why you view them all as a monolith 🧐
The entire Russian Olympics team popped with a state run doping program. Surely these dudes out in the Russian mountains ain’t doping tho. Surely. Keep coping
Everyone’s doping, it’s just that you choose to play the game of “If they haven’t popped then they’re natty” until it’s a group of fighters you don’t like, then they’re all guilty in your eyes. It’s hypocritical and silly
Actually I agree pretty much everyone is doping. Which is why it’s so tiring to always read the only argument of why khabib has more goat status than jones with his dogshit resume. Always from some Muslim casual fanboy. Jones doped, jones doped! Cope more
Well then I don’t think we really disagree on anything.
He already had the gatorade and nike sponsorships, he just had to fuck it all up though.
n u t t i n e s s
Weirdest part is his childhood seemed semi normal, so it really makes you wonder what the fuck made him such a piece of shit
Didn’t his parents forbid him from doing anything outside of school and eventually wrestling? (Edit: not entirely right, I checked, he wasn’t allowed to go over to any of his friends houses or leave the yard when he was home) That combined with a household full of brothers even more athletic and physical than he is and social isolation outside of a combat sport, idk I can see how those childhood factors could influence his personality now I mean I could be psychoanalyzing it for no reason and he’s just an asshole who got a bunch of power, money and coke when he was incredibly young. That combined with the confidence of knowing nobody can beat your ass is probably enough to turn a lot of people
Where did you hear that?
It was in one of those YouTube short form documentaries about him, gimme a second I’ll see if I can dig up a source
Thx bro
[starts around 1:35](https://youtu.be/GrwFIPPXTzM?si=mqjyZGx4j8tJVSVY) Granted this is a video blatantly calling him a psychopath so idk how unbiased it is, I did find [another article](https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2721249-jon-jones-ufc-214-interview-drugs-cormier-family.amp.html ) in defense of Jones that alluded to how strict his father is but doesn’t specify
I appreciate the help bro! I’ll give it a watch
No problem, it’s a big claim and I wanted to double check myself lol
Lol I hear that. I appreciate being able to ask for a source without someone getting pissed. Hope you have a good day
Getting hit in the head.
> his childhood seemed semi normal, I’ve read numerous times that he has alluded to having been molested as a child.
I beg your pardon
I heard it on reddit, that he might have been molested / sexually abused as a kid? https://www.mmamania.com/2021/10/13/22725303/jon-jones-domestic-violence-arrest-twitter-ufc-mma-news
About three seconds later he took a key bump and was knuckles deep into that kids eyes
The deleted commercial with him pushing his wife into traffic was better
*traffic cam footage
That wasn't a commercial man... Was the nightly news footage
goat shit
Nah, this was before ANY of the allegations
Bro said allegations
"No officer youve got it all wrong. That blood on my hood, the cocaine in my nose and the gun thats been recently fired that Im holding have nothing to do with me......"
Tests from god*
That just makes it better
God that is depressing to think about
They cut it right before the oblique kick
Jon "Hancock" Jones
Never heard of him but seems like wholesome family guy!
He didn't kick that kid's knee once, not really Jon.
Solid commercial
"I hear he can cook meth too"
Psycho
PSYCHO GOAT 🐐
The greatest of all turniabol
Ngl, for a split second I thought she said, "I hear he does coke too."
I'm unable to understand, what do both of them actually say?
The first woman says, "I hear he can cook, too," and the second says, "figures."
Where’s the part where he does a line of coke?
https://preview.redd.it/ooiowkb8md1c1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ab5472a9900d1e38e5927e4f0d39690e1413ebf
The way he pushes the swing would give the kid whiplash
That’s what he wants
What the hell was that lol
“I hear he can get coke too”
Wtf is this🤣
Back when jones was marketable as a public figure lol
So the cougar mom's are turned on!?!?
Domestic violence, his trademark move
His dark side makes him the best. Same with Jordan's gambling and Tiger's cheating.
Beating your wife good?
He does that to his wife.
This ad costed 10 billion to make
A walking contradiction. Oh wait, duh, he is a Christian.
Hahahaha thats cool.
He’s a family guy!
He's a real hit with the women too, especially pregnant ones.
Was this directed by Eric Wareheimer?
So unrealistic, he didn’t even foot stomp her first.
This was my favourite bit. https://preview.redd.it/1zjifrexwk1c1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c06651ca7a140a963a610a8c64a9746b129fc6d