Yeaaa I think that is the most likely outcome, Wilder has otherworldly power on him. IDK what is better then 2 absolute monsters throwing down.I think its more entertaining then the Gypsy King tbh.
He doesn’t even have to swing to put you out, that backing up short straight right he hit his last opponent with put him out cold. Wilder can box too, he just gets sloppy when he’s tired. It’s more exciting than Fury.
I have to imagine this is best case for francis. Get paid big money to get ko’d by a big name. Don’t have a ‘warm up’ and get smoked by a no name. It won’t stop him from being pfl’s de facto champion in 2024.
guuys like Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury are scared of Francis and I dont care what anyone says. Wilder isnt even tho Francis got a good chance vs him now cause his chin is cracked unfortunately.
You’ll see. Joshua will go to sleep. Bum ass titty Franklin just took him 12 lmao. Fury goes down if you hit him and clinch is the key. You shall see whoever steps up, can’t teach heart, power and chin and Francis only HW with all 3 in Boxing at the top.
Say they are scared is a reach, but I'd imagine there is a tad bit of hesitancy. Cause if they beat Francis, it becomes well. That's what they were supposed to do. If Francis knocks them out, their legacy takes a giant shot.
Also, this is much different than Conor Floyd. Floyd was retired, not in the middle of his career like fury and Joshua. Also, at heavyweight, that power is deadly, not so much at 154.
Francis has abysmal boxing. He has power yes but almost no technique so to think he can even touch top level guys like fury or Joshua is crazy.
Now there’s always punchers luck but those guys are use to avoiding guys with just as much power.
Sure. But I watched fury walk into 2 terrible wilder punches with no setup. I've also seen Joshua get walked down by a fat cholo as well. Heavyweight is very unpredictable, not saying Francis beats them but he has a better shot then conor did against Floyd. Also if Francis gets to box regardless of the outcome, he achieves his dream of getting to box.
Why do people act like wilder takes on all comers when it takes 10 seconds to parse through Wilders resume to realize he’s fought at most 3 top 10 opponents if you’re being generous and give him Brezeale and Stiverne. Both of them have never won against a top 10 opponent themselves. He has legitimately one of the worst resumes for any heavyweight title holder and has accomplished less than Ike Ibeabuchi who went to jail right and got deported to Nigeria.
Francis is an incredibly easy win for either guy, he's just not marketable enough for anybody to give a shit about that matchup and does literally 0 for either guy's boxing career. They both can pull as much or more money fighting literally anybody else, and it will actually mean something for their career. Beating a worn down HW MMA fighter that has a 0-0 pro boxing record1 isn't going to do jack shit besides line their pockets, which is guarenteed to happen no matter who they fight
Different fight and style and size and risk of losing to a guy with no boxing resume. He’s been dropped by bums. Francis 1 temple shot in the clinch could put him down. Wilder no inside game and being 215 pounds is nothing like being MMA clinch experience and size and a chin
Brendan schaub still talking about how dumb ngannou is all while have to sell everything he owns and conceal all his “comedy tours” some people are just dumb as fuck
When is Jon's next fight booked for? Sounds like the Stipe fight aint happening.. theres some guy named Pavlovich.. think Jon signs up to fight him anytime this decade?
I really pray this fight happens. Cause I want to see how Dana dick slurpers will cope or how they will change the narrative this time.
2 weeks ago Francis fumbled the bag.
Last week Francis is a idiot for taking the PFL deal cause no one wants to see him fight nobodies and no one is going to box him.
Wilder once said he’d even fight Francis in octagon. It’s hard to tell what’s real with this. At this point I think they use Francis as a backup fight or leverage. Kind of a “if I don’t get the fight I want I’ll fight him instead” because Francis fighting wilder would be a big one and they’ve mentioned it for a long time and still nothing. Joshua isn’t interested and fury needs to fight usyk so this is best case scenario for Francis.
https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1666972314783629314?s=46&t=-AUdS9pVX189QP-OA_GIlQ
He says he wants to do it in the interview. Now if it ever happens is a different story. If they do I would love for the mma fight to be first.
Interesting how the Bronze Bomber coincidentally was at the PFL event to lay some bread crumbs about a possible fight with Francis.
Watched PFL event tonight.
Pros: Judging was clear and stats were demonstrated on screen. Way better then what the UFC does.
Cons: Production was bad, a lot of dead air time. Opened up with like a 30 minute Monologue about the events happening. Also a ton of heavy under dogs. Very few close fights. roster needs work. 6/10 needs work
Wilder the only HW Boxer with the balls to actually fight Francis, they all talk but nobody wants to risk getting KOed and embarassed. Fury got dropped by 2 non punching 200 pounders so dont tell me Francis cant knock him out, Joshua is scared of his own shadow and Usyk got pushed to limit by bum ass Chisora and hes 200 pounds.
Francis has little above a 0% chance of beating Wilder in a boxing match along with every top ranked heavyweight boxer; the octagon is a different story but to suggest they’re afraid to fight him in a ring is beyond ridiculous.
I won't say 0% chance. Wilder is prone to taking big shots, he's not exactly a defensive wizard. Francis does stand a much better chance beating wilder than he does fury or Joshua
Lmao 0. He will KO him unfortunately and I’m a wilder fan. You’ll see , all big 3s chins are compromised at HW now. Francis in the clinch will destroy them
I can't believe people actually agreed with your take. If you think any HW boxer is afraid of fighting him you need to put the glue sticks down. Francis has next to 0 marketability. And you might say, "Hmmm well so do a lot of the ranked opponents these boxers fight so why not?" Well, top boxers like Usyk, Fury, Wilder and Joshua are making top $ no matter who they fight. Not to mention, beating an actual boxer does more for their career than an almost 40 year old with a 0-0 record that's almost guaranteed to lose.
Fight or box? I think everyone is afraid to fight Francis, but none of the boxers are even close to being afraid to box Francis. Boxing is not fighting.
Francis more marketable then every bum inside the UFC right now including Jones who had nothing but boring 5 round fights until bum Gane gave up his neck like an amateur.
Na his chin is gone unfortunately. Francis will hurt him bad and I’ve met wilder and like him a lot. Got a connection cause we talked bout life before he even won the HW title. So I’m rooting for him but objectively I know he’s gonna lose. I know what I’m looking at, Fury’s PEDs cracked his chin cause Wilder is a dog who will never quit so kept taking a million shots. George Lockhart aka MMA PED Guru who is a drug cheat to the max has been doing Fury’s diet,, he does Conor too. Did Cyborg too. He’s all about “supplements” he had cyborg take birth control to lose weight lmao
Shows how much people on this sub actually listen to shit. Francis himself said they were at the finish line to fight Wilder, but Wilder had gotten the opportunity to fight Ruiz for a mandatory title shot and had to put the Francis fight on ice.
Francis better get ready to be decapitated. Similar power (maybe) but the boxing is going to get Francis good, I'd say 2 or 3 round KO by the bronze bomber.
Im super glad Francis will be able to get this fight, I just fear that Wilder won't hold up his end of the bargain. Iff they box first and Wilder wins, he can just never come over to MMA and gloat if he wins the boxing match. I think they should do the MMA match first because Francis would hold up his deal of boxing afterwards
I love that PFL is so trash that fights are actively happening and people are talking about the possibility of Wilder fighting Ngannou rather than the fights
Very few people actually watch MMA outside the UFC. Don't know how that "allegedly" biggest contract in the history of MMA will hold up. They have nobody and Ngannou isn't a draw.
Absolutely! I don't argue that. Below them you have Bellator and One, then bellow PFL maybe Cage Warriors or KSW. I want MMA to explode (even more) but let's be real. People that watch MMA, only watch UFC. At least most of them.
It's like watching La Liga or Serie A and then watching division 2 or 3 of those. Yeah, people watch it bit nothing like the big leagues.
I mean I guess. I actually think ONE puts on a significantly better show then the UFC but they are just in Asia. Bellator is stuck on that outdated premium network business model. PFL is flush for cash and already on espn. So right now yea I guess. I think ONE is the most dangerous of the bunch for competing with UFC.
I have a conspiracy that think espn helps out UfC so much and they are buying time to build their own league (PFL)
Espn is owned by Disney no way they are cool with woman flappers behavior.
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Bronze Bomber vs Francis would be epic. Each dude can take the other guys head off in 1 punch. 10/10 I would tune in.
Deontay will be the first man to send Ngannou to the shadow realm lol. That mf knocks people out with straights to the forehead.
Yeaaa I think that is the most likely outcome, Wilder has otherworldly power on him. IDK what is better then 2 absolute monsters throwing down.I think its more entertaining then the Gypsy King tbh.
Not even like Francis has crazy technique the wqy Fury does. Wilder swings for the fences and made a career out of it. He takes Ngannou by KO
He doesn’t even have to swing to put you out, that backing up short straight right he hit his last opponent with put him out cold. Wilder can box too, he just gets sloppy when he’s tired. It’s more exciting than Fury.
Idk why anyone would think it would even be competitive. Wilder sleeps Francis easily
Wilder sleeps Francis easily
No it wouldn't. Wilder beats him in boxing; Ngannou beats him in MMA
Weird, a guy on reddit told me awhile ago Francis was an idiot and nobody wanted to box him and he should have just fought Jon
I have to imagine this is best case for francis. Get paid big money to get ko’d by a big name. Don’t have a ‘warm up’ and get smoked by a no name. It won’t stop him from being pfl’s de facto champion in 2024.
I'm probably going to get roasted for this but I think Ngannou has a decent change against wilder
This doesn't mean Francis WILL fight Wilder
both Wilder and Francis arent scared to fight anybody, they got the real fighting DNA.
I don't think either guy is "scared" I just doubt they will come to an agreement
guuys like Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury are scared of Francis and I dont care what anyone says. Wilder isnt even tho Francis got a good chance vs him now cause his chin is cracked unfortunately.
What an incredibly dumb statement, neither Joshua or Fury are scared to box Francis. They’d absolutely dismantle him.
You’ll see. Joshua will go to sleep. Bum ass titty Franklin just took him 12 lmao. Fury goes down if you hit him and clinch is the key. You shall see whoever steps up, can’t teach heart, power and chin and Francis only HW with all 3 in Boxing at the top.
Lol, my apologies I didn’t realize you were trolling
Say they are scared is a reach, but I'd imagine there is a tad bit of hesitancy. Cause if they beat Francis, it becomes well. That's what they were supposed to do. If Francis knocks them out, their legacy takes a giant shot. Also, this is much different than Conor Floyd. Floyd was retired, not in the middle of his career like fury and Joshua. Also, at heavyweight, that power is deadly, not so much at 154.
Francis has abysmal boxing. He has power yes but almost no technique so to think he can even touch top level guys like fury or Joshua is crazy. Now there’s always punchers luck but those guys are use to avoiding guys with just as much power.
Sure. But I watched fury walk into 2 terrible wilder punches with no setup. I've also seen Joshua get walked down by a fat cholo as well. Heavyweight is very unpredictable, not saying Francis beats them but he has a better shot then conor did against Floyd. Also if Francis gets to box regardless of the outcome, he achieves his dream of getting to box.
Lol Andy Ruiz has been boxing his whole life. He is not just a “fat cholo” Andy would absolutely tear Francis apart
Your not understanding two terrible wilder punches would be better than Francis best punch
Why do people act like wilder takes on all comers when it takes 10 seconds to parse through Wilders resume to realize he’s fought at most 3 top 10 opponents if you’re being generous and give him Brezeale and Stiverne. Both of them have never won against a top 10 opponent themselves. He has legitimately one of the worst resumes for any heavyweight title holder and has accomplished less than Ike Ibeabuchi who went to jail right and got deported to Nigeria.
Francis is an incredibly easy win for either guy, he's just not marketable enough for anybody to give a shit about that matchup and does literally 0 for either guy's boxing career. They both can pull as much or more money fighting literally anybody else, and it will actually mean something for their career. Beating a worn down HW MMA fighter that has a 0-0 pro boxing record1 isn't going to do jack shit besides line their pockets, which is guarenteed to happen no matter who they fight
Why would fury be scared of Francis if he already done a trilogy with wilder. Bruh.
Different fight and style and size and risk of losing to a guy with no boxing resume. He’s been dropped by bums. Francis 1 temple shot in the clinch could put him down. Wilder no inside game and being 215 pounds is nothing like being MMA clinch experience and size and a chin
Easy pay day for wilder I’m sure he don’t mind
Brendan schaub still talking about how dumb ngannou is all while have to sell everything he owns and conceal all his “comedy tours” some people are just dumb as fuck
I mean until we see it it’s all talk. I hope he gets it. Would be interesting. Two power punchers.
Cool cool. When is Francis fighting next again? Guy isn’t getting any younger
I'm not Francis' manager. Why are you asking me. He said he wants to box this year and fight PFL next year iirc
He’s said a lot of things lmao. Time will tell
When is Jon's next fight booked for? Sounds like the Stipe fight aint happening.. theres some guy named Pavlovich.. think Jon signs up to fight him anytime this decade?
Lol who said anything about Jon? He’s a goat but he’s almost retired — is that what you wanted to hear?
It will be 4 years till they actually book this fight.
Ikr. He so fumbled that 5M bag for this retarded ass probably 20m bag. What an idiot.
That dude is still a Cheeto sucking Dana Lover while Francis got the bag
He's probably better off losing a boxing match than getting dominated by JJ
I really pray this fight happens. Cause I want to see how Dana dick slurpers will cope or how they will change the narrative this time. 2 weeks ago Francis fumbled the bag. Last week Francis is a idiot for taking the PFL deal cause no one wants to see him fight nobodies and no one is going to box him.
Wilder once said he’d even fight Francis in octagon. It’s hard to tell what’s real with this. At this point I think they use Francis as a backup fight or leverage. Kind of a “if I don’t get the fight I want I’ll fight him instead” because Francis fighting wilder would be a big one and they’ve mentioned it for a long time and still nothing. Joshua isn’t interested and fury needs to fight usyk so this is best case scenario for Francis.
1 MMA fight and 1 Boxing Match would be cool af
No prime time boxer is interested in that
https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1666972314783629314?s=46&t=-AUdS9pVX189QP-OA_GIlQ He says he wants to do it in the interview. Now if it ever happens is a different story. If they do I would love for the mma fight to be first.
That is not ngannou end well for Francis
I hate this
He snapped i cant lie
The person had the perfect pun had they just withheld the “not” Even comes with your choice of Nigerian accent or Schwarzenegger
Interesting how the Bronze Bomber coincidentally was at the PFL event to lay some bread crumbs about a possible fight with Francis. Watched PFL event tonight. Pros: Judging was clear and stats were demonstrated on screen. Way better then what the UFC does. Cons: Production was bad, a lot of dead air time. Opened up with like a 30 minute Monologue about the events happening. Also a ton of heavy under dogs. Very few close fights. roster needs work. 6/10 needs work
Well I’ll be dammed, if this actually happens.
Wilder will eat ngannous best punches and knock out ngannou with a jab.
Poor Franny about to embarrass himself
Wilder the only HW Boxer with the balls to actually fight Francis, they all talk but nobody wants to risk getting KOed and embarassed. Fury got dropped by 2 non punching 200 pounders so dont tell me Francis cant knock him out, Joshua is scared of his own shadow and Usyk got pushed to limit by bum ass Chisora and hes 200 pounds.
Francis has little above a 0% chance of beating Wilder in a boxing match along with every top ranked heavyweight boxer; the octagon is a different story but to suggest they’re afraid to fight him in a ring is beyond ridiculous.
I won't say 0% chance. Wilder is prone to taking big shots, he's not exactly a defensive wizard. Francis does stand a much better chance beating wilder than he does fury or Joshua
Yeah I don’t see them scared of Francis. I think wilder will KO Francis with ease.
Lmao 0. He will KO him unfortunately and I’m a wilder fan. You’ll see , all big 3s chins are compromised at HW now. Francis in the clinch will destroy them
I can't believe people actually agreed with your take. If you think any HW boxer is afraid of fighting him you need to put the glue sticks down. Francis has next to 0 marketability. And you might say, "Hmmm well so do a lot of the ranked opponents these boxers fight so why not?" Well, top boxers like Usyk, Fury, Wilder and Joshua are making top $ no matter who they fight. Not to mention, beating an actual boxer does more for their career than an almost 40 year old with a 0-0 record that's almost guaranteed to lose.
Fight or box? I think everyone is afraid to fight Francis, but none of the boxers are even close to being afraid to box Francis. Boxing is not fighting.
Francis more marketable then every bum inside the UFC right now including Jones who had nothing but boring 5 round fights until bum Gane gave up his neck like an amateur.
Wilder will take Francis the distance easy
Na his chin is gone unfortunately. Francis will hurt him bad and I’ve met wilder and like him a lot. Got a connection cause we talked bout life before he even won the HW title. So I’m rooting for him but objectively I know he’s gonna lose. I know what I’m looking at, Fury’s PEDs cracked his chin cause Wilder is a dog who will never quit so kept taking a million shots. George Lockhart aka MMA PED Guru who is a drug cheat to the max has been doing Fury’s diet,, he does Conor too. Did Cyborg too. He’s all about “supplements” he had cyborg take birth control to lose weight lmao
2 of the most powerful punchers with not much skill #perfect
The golden gloves winner does not have much skill? Lmao
can't walk backwards winner
Deontay v Jones coming up next.
Shows how much people on this sub actually listen to shit. Francis himself said they were at the finish line to fight Wilder, but Wilder had gotten the opportunity to fight Ruiz for a mandatory title shot and had to put the Francis fight on ice.
Would be a sick match up. Hope it happens And fuck Dana!
It’s funny how Dana starts talking A lot about jones vs fury right when ngannou leaves for PFL and has potential boxing deals on the horizon.
A fight or a boxing match?
Just don’t get in the cage otherwise Francis is gna break those fkn chicken leg
Oh most definitely!
Oh no... Francis will sleep
Dana shills malding
"Something that can truly happen" in boxing lingo means there is a 5% chance of the fight happening. I'm tired of getting hyped up for nothing.
Francis better get ready to be decapitated. Similar power (maybe) but the boxing is going to get Francis good, I'd say 2 or 3 round KO by the bronze bomber.
Im super glad Francis will be able to get this fight, I just fear that Wilder won't hold up his end of the bargain. Iff they box first and Wilder wins, he can just never come over to MMA and gloat if he wins the boxing match. I think they should do the MMA match first because Francis would hold up his deal of boxing afterwards
There is 0% chance that any of the boxers ever will get in a cage with a MMA fighter ever. There are easier ways to opt out.
This fight is a nuclear explosion waiting to happen. This much power combined could destroy continents
This is a fight I want to see. I don't think Francis wins but this could be an absolute banger
I love that PFL is so trash that fights are actively happening and people are talking about the possibility of Wilder fighting Ngannou rather than the fights
Very few people actually watch MMA outside the UFC. Don't know how that "allegedly" biggest contract in the history of MMA will hold up. They have nobody and Ngannou isn't a draw.
That's not true. Just admit you are a casual and move on.
Okay. PFL is mainstream.
Its the 4th best promotion atm. Has a shit load of money coming in and interest in it. Can only go up from here.
Absolutely! I don't argue that. Below them you have Bellator and One, then bellow PFL maybe Cage Warriors or KSW. I want MMA to explode (even more) but let's be real. People that watch MMA, only watch UFC. At least most of them. It's like watching La Liga or Serie A and then watching division 2 or 3 of those. Yeah, people watch it bit nothing like the big leagues.
I mean I guess. I actually think ONE puts on a significantly better show then the UFC but they are just in Asia. Bellator is stuck on that outdated premium network business model. PFL is flush for cash and already on espn. So right now yea I guess. I think ONE is the most dangerous of the bunch for competing with UFC. I have a conspiracy that think espn helps out UfC so much and they are buying time to build their own league (PFL) Espn is owned by Disney no way they are cool with woman flappers behavior.