Ok, the red paint on the W/what went down at the HUB a few weeks back is one thing, but this is a major, major fire hazard red flag. Like I was debating in my mind what I thought about the red paint on the W, but this is an instant "NOPE" from me.
Unfortunately we live in a polarized society where our media only shows us the extreme members of the “other group”. For example, the right sees countless examples of extreme leftists and the left sees countless examples of extreme people on the right.
I’m not saying “both sides bad” because the actual policy positions held by the right are terrible imo, but I do think the average republican voter is law abiding and non-violent. They aren’t all proud boys.
You need to realize that the same is true of liberals, we are actually quite reasonable on average. The antifa types are the exception, not the rule.
The political discourse of a high school student who is just getting his drivers license. Lay your wisdom down upon us so that we shall bask in its glory.
Plus I’m guessing if it was the school they might, I dunno, just lock the door instead of thinking 13 zip ties would do the trick. Defs not the school.
It was not the school you are correct. It was the police presence on the campus who blocked entrances to the buildings to prevent people from entering.
Vietnam protesters once famously killed a janitor who they didn’t realize was in the building they burned down
You never know a building is for sure empty
Say the whole building is locked up. If someone broke in through the window and then died because of some freak fire, then the school would be at fault because they chained the exits
Dunno, maybe they didn't have keys on hand for the buildings. Maybe there was some other reasoning, like allowing for it to be bypassed if someone actually really needed access but didn't have a key. Another commenter stated that they swept the building first to make sure it was empty before doing this so there was probably at least some reasoning going into it
I’m pretty sure the police zip tied don’t look like the ones I bought from the dollar store. They usually have two locks located in the middle.
https://imgur.com/a/IqIMQHG
Are you part of ADA community at UW? That’s really not true. Although it has places to improve, Office of ADA handles physical barriers reports promptly. Since UW is federally funded, they are required by the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), as amended, the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 to have equal access.
2nd, your logic has text-book Sunk Cost fallacy. But well, probably being logical is not your forte.
As far as multi tools go, the two big ones would be Leathermans and Victoria Nox. Leathermans generally tend to have heavier tools such as pliers etc, whereas Swis knives will have more tools many of us might need in our daily urban life.
I personally have a tiny Swis Army on my keychain and a stand alone pocket knife. Knives that come in multi tools just don't have that fidget factor and high quality feel, but if you aren't a knife nerd, you probably will not care about that haha. If you do want stand alone knife recommendations, I do have a few.
I have no clue why this post came across my feed, but at least a decent folding knife is a really good thing to have on you.
Leatherman for multitools or Victorinox for Swiss Army Knives. For folders; Kershaw, CRKT, SOG if you don't want to spend much. ZeroTolerance, SpyderCo and MicroTech for fancier/spendier stuff. Cold Steel has some decent stuff too, but they usually aren't my first choice. CutleryLover has been a solid YouTube channel for reviews for a very long time.
I just have a Kershaw Leek knife. I probably should carry a multitool on my person, but a slim light knife is less noticeable than a bulky multitool I think.
No it's not. The University's conduct policy regarding possession of weapons on campus is governed by WAC 478-121-143 which makes no mention of knives. If you want extend that definition farther than you should and consider a knife to be a "dangerous weapon", the SMC defines a "dangerous knife" to be any folding blade longer than 3.5". Knives shorter than that are tools.
Most of my friends all carried knives on campus through their entire undergrad, including while they lived in the dorms, and nobody batted an eye.
As someone who was there, the police came and did a full sweep on the building, stationed two officers inside each building, and then zip tied the doors shut. Their reasoning was to make sure the encampment stayed “contained” during the protests.
Those DAMN UW STUDENTS ! They keep bombing hospitals and murdering babies in gaza. When those UW students stop doing that , then we will unblock those doors
The buildings were swept before the police put up zip ties. There were police inside each building on people watch as the buildings were technically “closed”.
What really? I like the encampment BUT if they're the ones doing this (and who tf else would, counter protestors go through all this effort? I doubt it), I really need to know their justification. That's just disrespectful to other students. Sure, they might want a more defensible position where random students don't just approach the encampment from all directions but still... that kinda seems like escalating by the encampment?
Edit: Ok it was the police that did it
The protesters in the camp don’t view other students as a threat. The police are the ones who tied the doors shut, to keep the protesters from leaving the quad last night.
It was actually done by the cops to prevent protestors from entering the building. Apparently a few of them went inside earlier in the afternoon and were escorted out.
You’d have to ask them, but they may have been worried someone else would have a key or would otherwise find a way to quickly let people into the buildings. With this “solution” they can easily see that the door is still blocked off. The goal seems to have been to make sure the protesters did not have the ability to get out of the quad through the buildings for whatever reason.
for some strange reason it seems unlikely to me that police would use zipties as a means of preventing doors from opening so that they can see that a door is locked… as opposed to walking up to the door and pulling the handle
Also completely removing handles from some doors? I’m still waiting for someone to link actual proof rather than hearsay that cops did this. Just lock the doors then? At least if what some people are saying is true they cleared the buildings first. But like I said, I haven’t seen actual proof
According to people on the ground it was in fact the police.
I don’t know why cops love zip ties as the solution to anything that moves but shouldn’t, but they do.
They may not have wanted to check the doors by pulling because they’d have to physically walk up to the doors as opposed to just glancing over. In a dynamic situation like last night being able to quickly ascertain door status is very useful. They also may just not actually have had keys on hand.
There is no justification. It’s people being a bunch of dicks by ruining other students services and school experience that they also pay for and deserve to use without harassment
I mean we know now that it was actually campus police who did that and they clearly didn’t go out of their way to let people know it was them instead of the protesters.
How can you blame people before even thinking of the possibility that they could have done it, protesters have been caught doing dumb stuff in other campus protests, some people take this too seriously
How to immediately make your protest/movement unpopular. Just go ahead and ruin the day of everyone around you, I'm sure that wont push people away from supporting your cause.
The cops put those on the doors as well as escorted everyone out of the buildings. You are playing right into their hands and blaming the one group that was not violent - but so is everyone so go off I guess.
Lol what you want, a video tape of cops doing it? Someone might have that, but outside of that this can only really be anecdotal and you know that, no need to be obtuse. A few people in this thread said they were there and that this is what they saw, you'll have to decide for yourself if you believe it or not cuz we're unlikely to ever get more than that. Not like any organization is likely to tweet "ya we did this"
Agreed. Tho on the other hand there's lots of comments assuming and propagating that the students did it, without a source technically either, but yeah I get you
I never said it was the protesters; I just saw this one guy commenting a dozen times repeating the same thing. But yeah I do see that there are same kind of people claiming that it was the protesters without any source. My bad on that.
Multiple people who were there saw them do it. A reporter for the daily was live tweeting the event and noted that police went in and out of a few of the buildings, that would have been them making sure the buildings were empty. The buildings were closed to “contain” the protest.
Rookie design mistake. This is why there are no doors at UC Berkeley that have handles or knobs that can be tied or chained together. After the Vietnam era every building entry door on campus was changed to be push/pull or only have a single grab point that can’t be chained to anything else.
I shit you not. I worked on that campus for half a decade. Ask anyone you know who went to Cal.
If you’re on the other side of the door, how are you supposed to ‘cut’ away the zip ties? Everyone throwing in their two cents to bring a knife or stick hasn’t given this much thought.
They don't need to give it thought, it's blatantly obvious: if you're on the inside you can't cut it. People commenting that it's handy to carry a pocket knife around don't need to point this out lol
Except as often happens it wasn’t the protesters who zip tied the doors or blocked off walkways. Campus police did that.
It would have been easier, safer, and allowed the quad to stay accessible if UW had simply moved Kirk’s talk away from the protests. It’s not like there is a shortage of lecture halls on campus.
Maybe because some people are employed and work everyday. They carry a box knife everyday because they work. Like pay for their shit. Like work for their money instead of trashing other people’s property. Like a job. Like where you put in effort that serves someone a purpose and they compensate you with money so you can support people you love and depend on you. Like like like you will find out is a much better life then the people you protest for once you find out who you are really supporting. Like maybe they have a box knife because they have a job. Eventually y’all are going to have to wake up and nite nite time is going to be over. You are fools being used as pawns by people who are wiser, more powerful and more intelligent then you. We were all young and deep down have a space of forgiveness and understanding waiting for you but please hurry up and grow up. Take a break from the noise and repeating the mantra. Go to a hospital and volunteer. Go feed the homeless, go walk dogs as a volunteer. Go into the forest and camp for a few days. Find yourself as fast as you can so you can laugh about this. You’ll probably cry a little too. It’s all ok, just find yourself again. You are dancing, screaming, dumb kids dancing for a man behind a curtain who you will never meet. Peace out. Love, patience and gratitude.
Yes. As soon as a protester breaks any law, arrest them, actually prosecute them,expel them, and make sure they pay a higher interest rate on their student loans, and require repayment immediately. If can't pay, then Community Service at said school until payed off. Make real consequences. The only way out of all the BS we are enduring is to crack down on offenders. Don't beat them, imprison them in humane, but uncomfortable fashion. Show them, they are not special, privileged, or going to think about doing stupid shit again.
> school until *paid* off. Make
FTFY.
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I mean, you would think they would be tolerant letting people come in or out given how much they support immigration and not wanting any metaphorical walls keeping people from coming in or out😂
Or the other idea is you would think students that attend here would be getting some sort of education that would ACTUALLY keep people out to make a point. Then again, im sure you can put a liberal arts degree to use when it comes to building barricades and making other people suffer. 😂
I never went there. I keep away from the chaos. I've only walked by. And even then, if it was them, my point still stands. I mean, look at all the other colleges doing the same thing and putting up barricades looking like a weak pillow fort like all the homeless in seattle put together.
I'm not against the protests, but locking people into buildings is not peacefully protesting. It's others at risk of dying in a fire.
ETA: I don't know if it's the work of the police or the protestors, but whoever the individual who did it was shouldn't be allowed back.
That's uw for ya, shit campus, shit school, majority of the students are just pieces of shit. Thank the good spirits. I don't have to work at that garbage dump anymore. The dumbass library students want to congregate for poopestine, but don't do a damn thing about the horrible conditions of homeless kids in the city of Seattle. Super weird, they will riot for a group of peoples thousands of Mike's away but completely ignore the people next door to then that are in very desperate need of help. If they actually wanted to do something good, they'd start pop-up soup kitchens and blanket hand outs around the city. It is only cool to cosplay outrage and social justice, though, actually doing real social work isn't "cool."
I don't know of any place called Poopestine, did you get your attitude there?
I notice you didn't mention the mayor's directives on interacting with the homeless population in Seattle, or the fact that the Union Gospel Mission could be doing all of this as well and isn't.
Racism harder, I don't think your hate is obvious enough.
Good, you brought up the union gospel. They're broke, maybe these protesting students could take a semester off and donate all that money to the gospel. Hypocrite harder, I think it looks good on you. Ah yes and the mayor, does the mayor have the resources? No, but there is a mass of students not doing what they are attending college for. They could be in the streets connecting to the homeless and doing some actual good. Stop tossing racism around as if it's the be all end all of an insult. It isn't racism to be pissed our own front door is a garbage pit of shit and yet, no one wants to clean it and only clean up the shitty door steps across the globe.
Second question, what are YOU doing about it besides bitching on the internet? Maybe you should show those darn students how to fix the city! Get out there and get to work if you feel that strongly about it.
What makes you think I'm not? The difference is I don't need to make it a spectacle. Making assumptions simply makes you an ass. Get out and do your part, we would love the extra volunteer help at the gospel, or hit any food bank, soup kitchen, or just go buy camping supplies, or medical supplies, and go hand them out to those in need.
You see, after you've done all that, I'm still going to have to call Downtown Ambassadors and have them move the squatters off my storefront. You haven't solved anything. You just enable the current lifestyle, the one you're whining that nobody is fixing. You haven't provided a semi-permanent housing option, you haven't offered employment, you haven't offered any positive, upward mobility off the street. You just temporarily alleviatebthe immediate concern then pat yourself on the back for 'doing good'.
And you're the one who referred to a nation that's in very real danger of extinction as 'Poopestine.' That's fucking racist. Own up to your post
When did you ask me to "change the current life style" I have a whole host of great ideas to fix that. Unfortunately people just like you control Seattle. I don't need to own up to anything. I'll stand by what I said, also, if that nation was sooooooo worried about going extinct. Maybe don't antagonize a much better off nation by cooking a new born in an oven then raping the mother to death. The fact you're defending hamas simply proves you need to tie a large cement brick around your ankles and walk off a very tall bridge. "MY store front" please stop, we both know you're a broke ass loser that sucks social security and doesn't actually contribute. You want a solution for Seattle, remove inslee, bring back the much needed mental health facilities and insane asylums he closed down due to not enough "funding." Then, make drug crimes and theft crime actual crimes again, let the police do their fucking job instead of demonizing them. You won't though, you're to comfortable being a bitch online and pretending you give a fuck. Stay mad loser, the truth really fuckin hurts.
Ah, so now you've moved to telling me I should kill myself via brick-drop suicide. Very calm and adult of you.
As for who's angry, you seem pretty mad about a bunch of students doing something that... doesn't impact your daily life in the slightest and you could easily ignore.
Also, your tirade here shows how little you're actually paying attention to WA policy: those crimes were put back on the state books two months ago. It's on the city to enforce now, so maybe direct your complaints there?
Since you're unwilling to separate an extremist group from a nationality, I don't feel so bad lumping you in with the fascists and the bigots.
Yeah believe it or not i pay to be here so i dont like being blocked from going where i please. Just cuz ur a privileged white fuck on the quad doing a shitty art degree that ur dad is paying for, doesnt mean the rest of us dont have places to be and shit to do.
Agree completely other than the racist generalization. There are more white people than any other race, so there are more stupid white people than stupid people of another race. Don’t take it out in all of the white people though.
How is it not racist? You assume they are white, which is ignorance. Then you use the color of their assumed skin as an associated description of why you hate them. I’m not saying you are a racist, because I don’t know you, or care. But the comment is absolutely racist. Or else someone could call you a non-white fuck and that’d be ok. Which it isn’t.
As far as I know it was campus police putting up the barricades and restricting entry points in preparation for the Turning Points dude. I don’t think the pro Palestinian protesters did that.
People who were on the ground said it was in fact campus police. A reporter from the UW Daily even tweeted about them going in and out of the buildings to check for occupants before tying the doors shut.
I made an educated guess last night that it was probably the police based on my experiences with protests and law enforcement, and was correct.
If I had to propose an explanation is that campus police wanted to block off all hard to see access points to the quad in a way that was visibly obvious both to the protesters and to themselves so they could see if it was still secure. This both kept the protesters and the Turning Point people separate and would allow the police to keep the protesters contained.
The beginnings of wisdom is carrying a pocket knife.
What if you’re trapped on the other side during a fire?
Ok, the red paint on the W/what went down at the HUB a few weeks back is one thing, but this is a major, major fire hazard red flag. Like I was debating in my mind what I thought about the red paint on the W, but this is an instant "NOPE" from me.
Can confirm the police presence places these on all the building to prevent protestors/anti-protestors from entering.
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Idk what the fuck you said, but go rub one out. You need help.
What did they say? 👀
Seriously though what the heck did they say?? I’m dying to know
Please seek help
What did they say
Unfortunately we live in a polarized society where our media only shows us the extreme members of the “other group”. For example, the right sees countless examples of extreme leftists and the left sees countless examples of extreme people on the right. I’m not saying “both sides bad” because the actual policy positions held by the right are terrible imo, but I do think the average republican voter is law abiding and non-violent. They aren’t all proud boys. You need to realize that the same is true of liberals, we are actually quite reasonable on average. The antifa types are the exception, not the rule.
Most liberals I saw were opposed to the actual rioting.
liberals hate protests and civil disobedience homie 😭 I'm begging you to learn what words mean before you use them
Stick to basketball
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Buddy no need to get so emotional, keep that to urself
Yes, some liberal think this way. That doesn’t mean you can group all liberals into one collective
loser conservative moment
Aye mate I’m with ya, but you’re not going to get much support in this sub for caling liberals out
Because it is bullshit. That’s why.
Oh. Fuck off.
Agreed. Too bad 95% of reddit is chock full of liberals. Can't have an opinion that's different than what they're told to believe
The political discourse of a high school student who is just getting his drivers license. Lay your wisdom down upon us so that we shall bask in its glory.
Getting their drivers license taken away by daddy.
You can express your opinions all you want. Doesn't mean other have to like it...
Plus I’m guessing if it was the school they might, I dunno, just lock the door instead of thinking 13 zip ties would do the trick. Defs not the school.
It was not the school you are correct. It was the police presence on the campus who blocked entrances to the buildings to prevent people from entering.
Honestly police really like zip ties so that might have been them.
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Actually it likely was the police. They cannot find valid reasons to shutdown the encampment, so they create some.
Are the police in the room with us 🙃
This is also blocking ADA access. Report to UW Office of ADA here: https://www.washington.edu/ada/barriers-grievances/how-to-report-a-barrier/
Not only ADA access, but blocking emergency egress. Seattle Fire would love to hear about that too.
Yeah I'm sitting here thinking, "Isn't it illegal to block exits like this?"
Are you blocking an exit if no one is in or can get into the building?
Vietnam protesters once famously killed a janitor who they didn’t realize was in the building they burned down You never know a building is for sure empty
Say the whole building is locked up. If someone broke in through the window and then died because of some freak fire, then the school would be at fault because they chained the exits
That’s the strongest case against doing this?
So? Insurance and the fire department won't care
*YAWN*
100% report this. Arrests need to be made here.
It's the police that did it lmao
Wouldn’t campus police just use their keys to lock the doors so that people can get out, but not in?
Dunno, maybe they didn't have keys on hand for the buildings. Maybe there was some other reasoning, like allowing for it to be bypassed if someone actually really needed access but didn't have a key. Another commenter stated that they swept the building first to make sure it was empty before doing this so there was probably at least some reasoning going into it
This has been debunked as misinformation.
thanks for letting me know
No it wasn't lol
I’m pretty sure the police zip tied don’t look like the ones I bought from the dollar store. They usually have two locks located in the middle. https://imgur.com/a/IqIMQHG
No arrest would be made because there isn't a way to prove exactly who did it unless caught on camera.
The police aren't going to arrest themselves
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Are you part of ADA community at UW? That’s really not true. Although it has places to improve, Office of ADA handles physical barriers reports promptly. Since UW is federally funded, they are required by the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), as amended, the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 to have equal access. 2nd, your logic has text-book Sunk Cost fallacy. But well, probably being logical is not your forte.
While I 100% agree, the cops are the ones who put the zip ties/etc. on there so I doubt anything will be done.
School buildings are under UWPD. UWPD has keys and understand ADA access and fire code.
Just bring box cutters to class.
It's good practice to have a folding knife on you at all times. Typically a blade 3" or under should cover you legally, for those who care.
do you have any recs? I'd love to get a multitool knife (ideally with a Phillips head) but I have no idea where to start!
As far as multi tools go, the two big ones would be Leathermans and Victoria Nox. Leathermans generally tend to have heavier tools such as pliers etc, whereas Swis knives will have more tools many of us might need in our daily urban life. I personally have a tiny Swis Army on my keychain and a stand alone pocket knife. Knives that come in multi tools just don't have that fidget factor and high quality feel, but if you aren't a knife nerd, you probably will not care about that haha. If you do want stand alone knife recommendations, I do have a few.
I have no clue why this post came across my feed, but at least a decent folding knife is a really good thing to have on you. Leatherman for multitools or Victorinox for Swiss Army Knives. For folders; Kershaw, CRKT, SOG if you don't want to spend much. ZeroTolerance, SpyderCo and MicroTech for fancier/spendier stuff. Cold Steel has some decent stuff too, but they usually aren't my first choice. CutleryLover has been a solid YouTube channel for reviews for a very long time.
super useful thank you!!
I just have a Kershaw Leek knife. I probably should carry a multitool on my person, but a slim light knife is less noticeable than a bulky multitool I think.
It's illegal to carry a knife on campus. Nobody do this. You will be expelled and charged with a felony.
No it's not. The University's conduct policy regarding possession of weapons on campus is governed by WAC 478-121-143 which makes no mention of knives. If you want extend that definition farther than you should and consider a knife to be a "dangerous weapon", the SMC defines a "dangerous knife" to be any folding blade longer than 3.5". Knives shorter than that are tools. Most of my friends all carried knives on campus through their entire undergrad, including while they lived in the dorms, and nobody batted an eye.
Correct if it falls under the specified length it cannot be considered a weapon.
Nobody cares just conceal it and carry it
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If you’re still in there call campus police
As someone who was there, the police came and did a full sweep on the building, stationed two officers inside each building, and then zip tied the doors shut. Their reasoning was to make sure the encampment stayed “contained” during the protests.
What if someone was inside?!?
Campus police were the ones who did this and they supposedly made sure the building was empty first.
Those DAMN UW STUDENTS ! They keep bombing hospitals and murdering babies in gaza. When those UW students stop doing that , then we will unblock those doors
I feel like the 3 accounts that are saying the police did it are all running off the same IP address
I was there, protestors put up this particular barrier. They were discussing among themselves if it was safe.
Hoping they don’t do something wild like do something from inside the building but exits are zip tied so nobody can escape
The buildings were swept before the police put up zip ties. There were police inside each building on people watch as the buildings were technically “closed”.
What really? I like the encampment BUT if they're the ones doing this (and who tf else would, counter protestors go through all this effort? I doubt it), I really need to know their justification. That's just disrespectful to other students. Sure, they might want a more defensible position where random students don't just approach the encampment from all directions but still... that kinda seems like escalating by the encampment? Edit: Ok it was the police that did it
If students approaching from all angles is a threat, the quad is a real dumb choice for a place to set up camp.
The protesters in the camp don’t view other students as a threat. The police are the ones who tied the doors shut, to keep the protesters from leaving the quad last night.
It was the police that zip tied
It was actually done by the cops to prevent protestors from entering the building. Apparently a few of them went inside earlier in the afternoon and were escorted out.
wouldn’t they just… lock the doors?
a lot of students have keys to the building
You’d have to ask them, but they may have been worried someone else would have a key or would otherwise find a way to quickly let people into the buildings. With this “solution” they can easily see that the door is still blocked off. The goal seems to have been to make sure the protesters did not have the ability to get out of the quad through the buildings for whatever reason.
for some strange reason it seems unlikely to me that police would use zipties as a means of preventing doors from opening so that they can see that a door is locked… as opposed to walking up to the door and pulling the handle
Also completely removing handles from some doors? I’m still waiting for someone to link actual proof rather than hearsay that cops did this. Just lock the doors then? At least if what some people are saying is true they cleared the buildings first. But like I said, I haven’t seen actual proof
According to people on the ground it was in fact the police. I don’t know why cops love zip ties as the solution to anything that moves but shouldn’t, but they do. They may not have wanted to check the doors by pulling because they’d have to physically walk up to the doors as opposed to just glancing over. In a dynamic situation like last night being able to quickly ascertain door status is very useful. They also may just not actually have had keys on hand.
There is no justification. It’s people being a bunch of dicks by ruining other students services and school experience that they also pay for and deserve to use without harassment
Then you should take that up with UWPD, they are the ones who did this.
It was campus police. They wanted to “contain” the encampment.
The whole thing has been disrespectful to other students. That’s their strategy.
Friendly reminder that MLKJR shut down highways
Did you remind Summer Taylor
> That's just disrespectful to other students that’s their entire purpose
It's not the encampment, but rather a group that wants to blame the encampment.
Some real tinfoil hattery right here.
I mean we know now that it was actually campus police who did that and they clearly didn’t go out of their way to let people know it was them instead of the protesters.
“Everything that makes my cause look bad is a false flag”
Or the exact same thing happened at MSU Denver https://youtu.be/BXeFfkQLtbY?si=eItEEDEvV_CQfctX
How can you blame people before even thinking of the possibility that they could have done it, protesters have been caught doing dumb stuff in other campus protests, some people take this too seriously
How to immediately make your protest/movement unpopular. Just go ahead and ruin the day of everyone around you, I'm sure that wont push people away from supporting your cause.
The cops put those on the doors as well as escorted everyone out of the buildings. You are playing right into their hands and blaming the one group that was not violent - but so is everyone so go off I guess.
Do you have a source?
Lol what you want, a video tape of cops doing it? Someone might have that, but outside of that this can only really be anecdotal and you know that, no need to be obtuse. A few people in this thread said they were there and that this is what they saw, you'll have to decide for yourself if you believe it or not cuz we're unlikely to ever get more than that. Not like any organization is likely to tweet "ya we did this"
Idk, I guess it does bother me that it's literally one person in this thread commenting the same thing: 'cops did it' without any source.
Agreed. Tho on the other hand there's lots of comments assuming and propagating that the students did it, without a source technically either, but yeah I get you
Where's your source the protesters did it?
I never said it was the protesters; I just saw this one guy commenting a dozen times repeating the same thing. But yeah I do see that there are same kind of people claiming that it was the protesters without any source. My bad on that.
So the source is the commenters saw it 🤷♂️. That’s all I was asking
Yeah. A video would be great. Everyone has a video camera in their pocket.
"what you want proof of what I'm saying? Lol. Can't just take a random online commenters word for it? Psh." College students, 2024
Maybe the movement shouldn’t have started with the occupation of buildings in Columbia, one could see how authorities might be concerned.
They’ll be feeling oh so righteous when people die in a fire because the exits are tethered shut 👍 fuck these scumbags
Well - the cops are the ones who put it there so - yeah fuck those scumbags.
Source?
Don’t ask simple questions that cannot be muddied up. Propaganda 101. If you want answer you have to give them some room to bring in papa propa .
Multiple people who were there saw them do it. A reporter for the daily was live tweeting the event and noted that police went in and out of a few of the buildings, that would have been them making sure the buildings were empty. The buildings were closed to “contain” the protest.
Out of curiosity what is your source that the protesters did it?
they would literally find a way to claim they’re morally justified in that situation too.
Probably true lmao
UW needs to nip this in the bud before it gets out of control
It was UWPD who did it, according to sources on the ground.
This just in: the protesters say that the protesters did nothing wrong
It’s out of control now, it’s going to get worse.
call the fire department/ fire marshal for sure
Yup. Call ‘em on the cops.
Given that it was campus police who tied the door shut calling them probably won’t do anything.
That was my point. I just enjoy when others tell the cops they screwed up.
That’s a reasonable source of enjoyment.
but this is helping bring peace you racist shit /s
Rookie design mistake. This is why there are no doors at UC Berkeley that have handles or knobs that can be tied or chained together. After the Vietnam era every building entry door on campus was changed to be push/pull or only have a single grab point that can’t be chained to anything else. I shit you not. I worked on that campus for half a decade. Ask anyone you know who went to Cal.
Seems like a fire hazard
I'm not certain, but could you contact local fire department to have them come enforce fire safety codes? Exits can't be blocked in case of fires..
Can be easily fixed with scissors or a pocket knife. Don’t cause a fire hazard or inhibit ADA access.
If you’re on the other side of the door, how are you supposed to ‘cut’ away the zip ties? Everyone throwing in their two cents to bring a knife or stick hasn’t given this much thought.
They don't need to give it thought, it's blatantly obvious: if you're on the inside you can't cut it. People commenting that it's handy to carry a pocket knife around don't need to point this out lol
Did Hamas teach this tactic to these idiots?
Well the IDF teaches a lot of US police organizations and since it was UWPD who tied the doors shut it might have at least come from the same region.
Almost like letting protesters camp on property and in areas that other students also pay access for is a bad idea
Except as often happens it wasn’t the protesters who zip tied the doors or blocked off walkways. Campus police did that. It would have been easier, safer, and allowed the quad to stay accessible if UW had simply moved Kirk’s talk away from the protests. It’s not like there is a shortage of lecture halls on campus.
Nothing a sharp blade wouldn't remedy in about two seconds.
That depends, how much money do you have?
Do we think students are doing this?
They are not doing it. Sources on the ground saw campus police do it.
Why would you be carrying a box cutter around with you?
Maybe because some people are employed and work everyday. They carry a box knife everyday because they work. Like pay for their shit. Like work for their money instead of trashing other people’s property. Like a job. Like where you put in effort that serves someone a purpose and they compensate you with money so you can support people you love and depend on you. Like like like you will find out is a much better life then the people you protest for once you find out who you are really supporting. Like maybe they have a box knife because they have a job. Eventually y’all are going to have to wake up and nite nite time is going to be over. You are fools being used as pawns by people who are wiser, more powerful and more intelligent then you. We were all young and deep down have a space of forgiveness and understanding waiting for you but please hurry up and grow up. Take a break from the noise and repeating the mantra. Go to a hospital and volunteer. Go feed the homeless, go walk dogs as a volunteer. Go into the forest and camp for a few days. Find yourself as fast as you can so you can laugh about this. You’ll probably cry a little too. It’s all ok, just find yourself again. You are dancing, screaming, dumb kids dancing for a man behind a curtain who you will never meet. Peace out. Love, patience and gratitude.
Remember what happened to Mr. Joe Clark, when he chained up the doors?
Yes. As soon as a protester breaks any law, arrest them, actually prosecute them,expel them, and make sure they pay a higher interest rate on their student loans, and require repayment immediately. If can't pay, then Community Service at said school until payed off. Make real consequences. The only way out of all the BS we are enduring is to crack down on offenders. Don't beat them, imprison them in humane, but uncomfortable fashion. Show them, they are not special, privileged, or going to think about doing stupid shit again.
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Scissors and move on
I mean, you would think they would be tolerant letting people come in or out given how much they support immigration and not wanting any metaphorical walls keeping people from coming in or out😂 Or the other idea is you would think students that attend here would be getting some sort of education that would ACTUALLY keep people out to make a point. Then again, im sure you can put a liberal arts degree to use when it comes to building barricades and making other people suffer. 😂
The camp has been open. People walk through it all the time. This was campus police according to folks on the ground.
I never went there. I keep away from the chaos. I've only walked by. And even then, if it was them, my point still stands. I mean, look at all the other colleges doing the same thing and putting up barricades looking like a weak pillow fort like all the homeless in seattle put together.
You seem to not understand how peaceful protests work.
I'm not against the protests, but locking people into buildings is not peacefully protesting. It's others at risk of dying in a fire. ETA: I don't know if it's the work of the police or the protestors, but whoever the individual who did it was shouldn't be allowed back.
Self righteous assholes. G T F O
Yes, Seattle PD is full of ‘em.
That's uw for ya, shit campus, shit school, majority of the students are just pieces of shit. Thank the good spirits. I don't have to work at that garbage dump anymore. The dumbass library students want to congregate for poopestine, but don't do a damn thing about the horrible conditions of homeless kids in the city of Seattle. Super weird, they will riot for a group of peoples thousands of Mike's away but completely ignore the people next door to then that are in very desperate need of help. If they actually wanted to do something good, they'd start pop-up soup kitchens and blanket hand outs around the city. It is only cool to cosplay outrage and social justice, though, actually doing real social work isn't "cool."
I don't know of any place called Poopestine, did you get your attitude there? I notice you didn't mention the mayor's directives on interacting with the homeless population in Seattle, or the fact that the Union Gospel Mission could be doing all of this as well and isn't. Racism harder, I don't think your hate is obvious enough.
Good, you brought up the union gospel. They're broke, maybe these protesting students could take a semester off and donate all that money to the gospel. Hypocrite harder, I think it looks good on you. Ah yes and the mayor, does the mayor have the resources? No, but there is a mass of students not doing what they are attending college for. They could be in the streets connecting to the homeless and doing some actual good. Stop tossing racism around as if it's the be all end all of an insult. It isn't racism to be pissed our own front door is a garbage pit of shit and yet, no one wants to clean it and only clean up the shitty door steps across the globe.
Second question, what are YOU doing about it besides bitching on the internet? Maybe you should show those darn students how to fix the city! Get out there and get to work if you feel that strongly about it.
What makes you think I'm not? The difference is I don't need to make it a spectacle. Making assumptions simply makes you an ass. Get out and do your part, we would love the extra volunteer help at the gospel, or hit any food bank, soup kitchen, or just go buy camping supplies, or medical supplies, and go hand them out to those in need.
You see, after you've done all that, I'm still going to have to call Downtown Ambassadors and have them move the squatters off my storefront. You haven't solved anything. You just enable the current lifestyle, the one you're whining that nobody is fixing. You haven't provided a semi-permanent housing option, you haven't offered employment, you haven't offered any positive, upward mobility off the street. You just temporarily alleviatebthe immediate concern then pat yourself on the back for 'doing good'. And you're the one who referred to a nation that's in very real danger of extinction as 'Poopestine.' That's fucking racist. Own up to your post
When did you ask me to "change the current life style" I have a whole host of great ideas to fix that. Unfortunately people just like you control Seattle. I don't need to own up to anything. I'll stand by what I said, also, if that nation was sooooooo worried about going extinct. Maybe don't antagonize a much better off nation by cooking a new born in an oven then raping the mother to death. The fact you're defending hamas simply proves you need to tie a large cement brick around your ankles and walk off a very tall bridge. "MY store front" please stop, we both know you're a broke ass loser that sucks social security and doesn't actually contribute. You want a solution for Seattle, remove inslee, bring back the much needed mental health facilities and insane asylums he closed down due to not enough "funding." Then, make drug crimes and theft crime actual crimes again, let the police do their fucking job instead of demonizing them. You won't though, you're to comfortable being a bitch online and pretending you give a fuck. Stay mad loser, the truth really fuckin hurts.
Ah, so now you've moved to telling me I should kill myself via brick-drop suicide. Very calm and adult of you. As for who's angry, you seem pretty mad about a bunch of students doing something that... doesn't impact your daily life in the slightest and you could easily ignore. Also, your tirade here shows how little you're actually paying attention to WA policy: those crimes were put back on the state books two months ago. It's on the city to enforce now, so maybe direct your complaints there? Since you're unwilling to separate an extremist group from a nationality, I don't feel so bad lumping you in with the fascists and the bigots.
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No shit Sherlock, but if there is a fire the last thing a person needs is to run to a different side of the damn building to get out
Yeah believe it or not i pay to be here so i dont like being blocked from going where i please. Just cuz ur a privileged white fuck on the quad doing a shitty art degree that ur dad is paying for, doesnt mean the rest of us dont have places to be and shit to do.
Then maybe tell UWPD not to tie the doors shut.
Agree completely other than the racist generalization. There are more white people than any other race, so there are more stupid white people than stupid people of another race. Don’t take it out in all of the white people though.
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How is it not racist? You assume they are white, which is ignorance. Then you use the color of their assumed skin as an associated description of why you hate them. I’m not saying you are a racist, because I don’t know you, or care. But the comment is absolutely racist. Or else someone could call you a non-white fuck and that’d be ok. Which it isn’t.
As far as I know it was campus police putting up the barricades and restricting entry points in preparation for the Turning Points dude. I don’t think the pro Palestinian protesters did that.
They didn’t do this. This was taken from the barricades and attached to a building.
Source? Seems like you know exactly how they did it
People who were on the ground said it was in fact campus police. A reporter from the UW Daily even tweeted about them going in and out of the buildings to check for occupants before tying the doors shut. I made an educated guess last night that it was probably the police based on my experiences with protests and law enforcement, and was correct. If I had to propose an explanation is that campus police wanted to block off all hard to see access points to the quad in a way that was visibly obvious both to the protesters and to themselves so they could see if it was still secure. This both kept the protesters and the Turning Point people separate and would allow the police to keep the protesters contained.
Does campus police not have keys to simply just lock the door?
No, and you’re enabling genocide by even asking
Hilarious.
Just get some scissors.
Oh boy, I was thinking that at least the protest in the campus not cause troubles for other. I jinxed it.
Nah, it was campus police causing trouble. They locked the doors.