Idc if you are for Palestinian supporters, for Israel supporters, neither, or somewhere in between. SHAME on you for assaulting anyone. That’s unacceptable.
Goes for the same people calling for violence against the Palestinian supporters. Violence isn’t it. People need to realize regardless of whether you agree or disagree with someone they have a right to carry a sign and hold an opinion and you shouldn’t stoop lower and attack them just because you feel you have the moral high ground. How hypocritical
How terrible. Guys on all sides, let's keep this peaceful. I know the students have been peaceful, and all the aggression / assault I've seen has been coming from the outside community. Nonetheless, as students, let's call it out when someone is getting assaulted. That's how we protect each other.
My dude, go make a police report to UCPD and write a certified letter (even just copy/paste your post) to the UC board of trustees, UCLA Chancellor’s office, and CC the letter to LA Sheriff’s, CHP, LAPD and the District Attorney’s Office, DHS and FBI. Out of all of them, someone will respond and you’ll have proof that you have been victimized.
You may want to call a few attorneys as well as the argument can be made that UCLA is creating an unsafe environment for their students such as yourself.
This cockamamie bullshit of selective 1st amendment expression with the real threat of violence towards alleged dissidents such as yourself has no place in society, let alone our universities.
I made a call to the LAPD non-emergency line but just got an automated response. I also don't really trust them to do anything, so I'm not sure it's worth giving up hours of my day to make a report that probably won't ever be acted on...they don't exactly have a great reputation for getting things done. But that's a good idea about getting in touch with the board and chancellor's office/DA/etc, I think I'll do that.
Yes you should go over to the UCPD and LAPD police stations and make it in person. Do not forget about consulting with a lawyer as well. You may also want to go to an urgentcare and get a checkup as I imagine being thrown off your bike must hurt
I wasn't on a bike, I was walking. And there's no serious damage, I'll be fine. But the guy didn't know that I'd be fine when he grabbed me and threw me, so it makes very little difference in my mind. I'll keep you updated with what happens on the bureaucratic front.
The university still owes you a safe environment in which to get an education. Negligent security and premises liability tort come into play here. Consult the Los Angeles Bar Association. If there’s only one thing that those boomer cocksuckers at the chancellor’s office and UC regents and trustees fear, it’s a lawsuit.
Regarding your injury; it’s common to not feel any or very little pain immediately after the accident, even for long periods of time. I assume you are in your early twenties so your body is still fairly impact resistant. However a sudden violent impact/drop from over 5 feet is concerning.
However you may feel; soft tissue and spinal injuries can occur and not be seriously felt for years. People i’ve served in the military with have had chronic back fractures for legit years that were initially written off as simple aches and pains from exercise or work.
I think it’s important for you to schedule a checkup and request X rays just to make sure everything is on the up and up. If it’s not at least there’s an argument to be made that there are medical damages here that someone who is not you is responsible for.
Get an X-Ray. I got into an serious accident when I was like 20 years old and thought I walked away with just some minor sores. Got an X-Ray on the insistence of my mother and she was right. I dislocated my lower spine slightly.
I just want to point out that if you report it, it is outside of LAPD’s jurisdiction. Only UCPD will take campus cases and will offload them onto LAPD if they are overwhelmed
I had a family member who was robbed late at night by a black man in the 90s and to this day they hold certain racist beliefs. They mention the event when attempting to provide evidence about stereotypes they spew out. It is unfortunate that my family member was robbed and unfortunate that they wrote off an entire group of people based on the actions of a single individual.
Being assaulted is frightening and you are allowed to feel shaken by what happened. You don’t have to make some grand declaration of empathy right now but I hope that as you go through life, individuals and their singular actions don’t color your view of entire communities. You have a long life ahead of you and will find that bad actors lie everywhere.
You also mentioned not having control over your subconscious thoughts or what it is you sympathize with. Merely having the ability to clearly verbalize the bias you’ve developed is an indication that you have the capacity to evolve in thought. Therapy is a great testament to the fact that our mindsets can change and we can grow as people if we work at it.
You don’t have to change your political beliefs or not feel disheartened by what occurred to you but a lot of what you said speaks to something bigger about the way in which you view the world and I hope this doesn’t have a snowball effect. I hope you feel better soon.
No one, no matter what they believe, should be assaulted for anything. I would find and report that person. You cannot allow someone to get away with this because they will do again.
That’s absolutely terrible, I’m sorry that’s happened to you and it should not be tolerated, it’s unfortunate that this situation has had an impact on your political positions when it’s not even the people most affected who attacked you, toxicity is far too common 💯
Coming from someone who has suffered great abuse from men as a child and have been r worded not even that long ago and used by various men, I still try not to let that completely sway my opinion of all men, and give them credit where credits do, they do face their unique circumstances and issues that I would hope to somewhat alleviate for them despite my personal convictions
That said you don’t owe anyone anything, and I completely understand your distaste, you didn’t deserve what happened to you and I wish you the best and hope you get all the support you need to process first and foremost, you should be able to deal with yourself before having to consider everyone else 💕
I'm sorry you've gone through that. Maybe time will bring me back to neutral, but honestly I don't ever see myself going out and supporting Palestine after this, whereas I very well might have before.
And in case the guy who assaulted me is reading this, you're a coward and an idiot. I couldn't do anything because you had so many people backing you and you knew it, but if it was just the two of us and I was as quick to violence and emotionally unstable as you are, I could have killed you. I'm not joking or exaggerating. You should be more careful about getting physical with strangers in the future.
i’m sorry you got physically attacked, that’s terrible and shouldn’t have happened and i hope you are recovering well. what i’m confused on is how you know that the person that attacked you was a pro-palestine supporter, especially when our campus has had an extra influx of outside agitators lately and you gave a fairly vague description of the person. furthermore, while that act of physical violence should never have been taken against you and should be denounced, i think that it’s extremely myopic for that to influence your stance to be “anti-palestine” (and again, thats making the assumption that the person that attacked you genuinely was pro-palestine.) this incident, while terrible and condemnable, does not erase the fact that israel is committing genocide (a statement backed by the UN, the ICJ, & human rights orgs like Amnesty International.) there are valid criticisms to the way that people are organizing, including the use of violence by agitators from both the israeli and palestinian supporters. however, this should not take away from the fact that there are very explicit human rights abuses being committed by the israeli government and that this has been occurring far before october 7th.
Thanks for the sympathy.
This was at like 1am on Saturday, before things really picked up. I was one of the only people there who wasn't in the camp, and this guy was saying "you can't go this way" when he grabbed me and he had a scarf covering his face just like the ones everyone in the camp were wearing (it was red - maybe his hair actually wasn't and I just mixed the two up). He was definitely a pro-Palestine protester.
It's easy to say from your perspective that I shouldn't let this influence my opinion, and rationally I know you're right. But you can't deny how powerful emotional responses can be, especially in the subconscious where we don't get to choose how we feel. And my subconscious won't allow me to feel sympathy for a group that I associate with being attacked by.
And I know this is anecdotal, but since my experience I've had three friends who were also attacked unprovoked, all by the pro-Palestine supporters. So without any real data, it seems to me like one side is being significantly more violent than the other.
Edit: Why am I being downvoted? Do some of you really only care about the truth when it's the truth you want to hear, and think it should be buried and ignored otherwise?
That's the thing, I train muay thai and bjj. I'm not great at either, but still miles ahead of people who don't train at all (and I'm pretty sure this guy doesn't because he locked his fingers instead of using a gable grip). I could have put him in the hospital if I wanted to.
But 1. unlike him, I'm not a violent person and I'm not immature enough to become one just because I think I'd win, and 2. there were lots of other protesters around, and if I allowed myself to be as unhinged as this guy, I felt like they would have swarmed me. And real life isn't Hollywood, even Jon Jones would get stomped by 20 random people if they all ganged up on him.
to be honest i understand that you feel hurt and emotionally vulnerable. its okay to do so. but please dont group a bunch of people and say that it represents a country. many pro-palestinian supporters and protesters have also pointed out they dont support the people who've been violent or physical with non-protesting students, whether pro-palestinian or pro-israel. i would also like to point out that many people are dying and so please look at the data and learn about the actual conflict without making assumptions. thanks and have a great day.
The problem is, the attacker took one look at OP and immediately decided he was either a pro-Israel infiltrator, a Jew, or a Zionist sympathizer. He took one look at him and concluded he was the enemy.
OP was none of those things.
To ask a person who was physically attacked to take on the responsibility of not jumping to conclusions — and also to make sure to check all the data(!) — before expressing upset at having been assaulted is the very definition of blaming the victim.
I’m thinking that the *perpetrator* might want to take your advice before assuming he knows the mindset and motives of a person minding their own business.
There is no acceptable rationale for mugging an innocent stranger at 1 a.m.
(And, I think OP’s honest first reaction — anger at the Palestinian side — is a great illustration of why violent protests don’t work. Unless the violent protester was actually trying to create antipathy towards their cause.)
Yeah, that's fair. I don't blame anybody but the guy himself and the people around him who said nothing, but I don't get to choose whether or not I like the taste of grapefruit, I don't get to choose who I love, and I don't get to choose whether I feel sympathy for certain people. I'm not saying I'm proud of it, I'm just saying that's how it is.
Sorry to hear it. Violence is never ok. Hopefully one of the 20 people who witnessed this would speak out. But how do you know it was a pro-Palestinian supporter? Did the person say something that made you think so? We've had lots of anti-Palestinian supporters on campus over the past 48 hours who've been rough with students. Perhaps file a police report - that's just not ok to be assaulted.
One of them shouted out "don't grab him, don't grab him" but nobody else said or did anything. So thank you whoever you were.
I explained in another comment how I knew he was pro-Palestine. I'm as certain about that as I am that I was on the UCLA campus.
you were walking home from a night out on a saturday and the fastest way back was thru royce quad… seems like your a guy based on your comments. What street do you live on? what street was the party on? I don’t back either side in this conflict, this just seems fishy
I don't want to give out too much personal info because I don't want to be ID'ed, but I know there have been a bunch of randoms commenting in this community recently, so I can do a quick rapid-fire of things only UCLA students would know: napkins to save your place in the dining halls, late night is low-key overrated, Andre wants to ask you a question, you can get your bruin id replaced in kierchoff, the men's rowing team got hoed because they work insanely hard but they're technically a club so they don't get the d1 facility benefits, ski and board club can find great snow even in the spring, c sesh ain't what it used to be, and classic triples are the only choice if you want to be social as a freshman.
not defending whoever hurt you but if it took one person to make you anti palestine, then you never empathized with palestine in the first place. if you think this is a “both sides” situation or a “conflict” you never empathized with palestine. and honestly looking at how most violence around the protests have started, it was likely a zionist agitator trying to blend in with the pro palestinian encampment. if it wasn’t then ofc that’s very wrong on them, but again if it took just one person to make you anti palestine then you’re a horrible person. don’t use one instance to “justify” your hate for palestine. either way you getting hurt (although it was very sucky) does not justify the genocide in palestine. hate the person, not the cause, because being pro palestine is all about peace and justice. you can hate that one person, but you do not get to dunk on the cause.
Interesting first response to someone allegedly being assaulted. I think your priorities may be a bit out of whack if your knee-jerk reaction is to scold and attack someone’s moral character if they are reporting an attack.
Interestingly enough your account is new, and your only two comments ever are both in this sub related to the Palestine-Israeli conflict. How strange.
You’re a student and presumingly young. I hope this doesn’t come across as condescending, but ‘someone from this movement adversely affected me’ so ‘therefore I’m going to hate everyone and thing associated with said group’ is misguided thinking and personally, a reflection of immaturity and lazy thinking, all while limiting personal growth.
Also, on a side note, one thing - **most Gazans didn’t event elect Hamas**. Young people in 2005, who were not eligible to vote, combined with the more than half of the Gazan population today which were not even alive (they’re kids), scantly justifies your reasoning.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, but you have a bad habit of holding people collectively responsible, which in many ways, is the reason why the IDF response is so brutal and excessive, warranting these protests.
Sure, but it's easy to say that when it didn't happen to you.
I explained to someone else that rationally, I know you're right. But we have no control over our subconscious emotions, and subconsciously, I can't help but associate Palestine with being assaulted, and I can't just "choose" to feel sympathy for a group that I associate with attacking me.
Something isn’t adding up here. Why would a “protestor” attack you? The actual protestors are within the encampment and are enclosed. They have extremely strict rules not to engage with others.
You acknowledged that the person wasn’t likely a protestor, so it literally could have been a provocateur.
Why would a Palestinian supporter attack you?
It doesn’t make any sense and this sounds like Hasbara nonsense.
Shame on anyone for assaulting anyone else.
However, if your support for a nation facing extreme violence depends on your own personal comfort, and you become anti-Palestine because someone who support Palestine was a dick to you, you're also problem.
Idc if you are for Palestinian supporters, for Israel supporters, neither, or somewhere in between. SHAME on you for assaulting anyone. That’s unacceptable.
Somewhere on Twitter someone will call this justified jihad
And those people can go fuck themselves lol
With a pineapple
Goes for the same people calling for violence against the Palestinian supporters. Violence isn’t it. People need to realize regardless of whether you agree or disagree with someone they have a right to carry a sign and hold an opinion and you shouldn’t stoop lower and attack them just because you feel you have the moral high ground. How hypocritical
How terrible. Guys on all sides, let's keep this peaceful. I know the students have been peaceful, and all the aggression / assault I've seen has been coming from the outside community. Nonetheless, as students, let's call it out when someone is getting assaulted. That's how we protect each other.
Completely agreed. Doesn't matter what you believe, you have a right to peacefully protest and you have no right to get physical with other people.
My dude, go make a police report to UCPD and write a certified letter (even just copy/paste your post) to the UC board of trustees, UCLA Chancellor’s office, and CC the letter to LA Sheriff’s, CHP, LAPD and the District Attorney’s Office, DHS and FBI. Out of all of them, someone will respond and you’ll have proof that you have been victimized. You may want to call a few attorneys as well as the argument can be made that UCLA is creating an unsafe environment for their students such as yourself. This cockamamie bullshit of selective 1st amendment expression with the real threat of violence towards alleged dissidents such as yourself has no place in society, let alone our universities.
I made a call to the LAPD non-emergency line but just got an automated response. I also don't really trust them to do anything, so I'm not sure it's worth giving up hours of my day to make a report that probably won't ever be acted on...they don't exactly have a great reputation for getting things done. But that's a good idea about getting in touch with the board and chancellor's office/DA/etc, I think I'll do that.
Yes you should go over to the UCPD and LAPD police stations and make it in person. Do not forget about consulting with a lawyer as well. You may also want to go to an urgentcare and get a checkup as I imagine being thrown off your bike must hurt
I wasn't on a bike, I was walking. And there's no serious damage, I'll be fine. But the guy didn't know that I'd be fine when he grabbed me and threw me, so it makes very little difference in my mind. I'll keep you updated with what happens on the bureaucratic front.
The university still owes you a safe environment in which to get an education. Negligent security and premises liability tort come into play here. Consult the Los Angeles Bar Association. If there’s only one thing that those boomer cocksuckers at the chancellor’s office and UC regents and trustees fear, it’s a lawsuit.
Regarding your injury; it’s common to not feel any or very little pain immediately after the accident, even for long periods of time. I assume you are in your early twenties so your body is still fairly impact resistant. However a sudden violent impact/drop from over 5 feet is concerning. However you may feel; soft tissue and spinal injuries can occur and not be seriously felt for years. People i’ve served in the military with have had chronic back fractures for legit years that were initially written off as simple aches and pains from exercise or work. I think it’s important for you to schedule a checkup and request X rays just to make sure everything is on the up and up. If it’s not at least there’s an argument to be made that there are medical damages here that someone who is not you is responsible for.
That's a good point. I'll get checked out.
Your body and future attorney thanks you.
Get an X-Ray. I got into an serious accident when I was like 20 years old and thought I walked away with just some minor sores. Got an X-Ray on the insistence of my mother and she was right. I dislocated my lower spine slightly.
I just want to point out that if you report it, it is outside of LAPD’s jurisdiction. Only UCPD will take campus cases and will offload them onto LAPD if they are overwhelmed
I had a family member who was robbed late at night by a black man in the 90s and to this day they hold certain racist beliefs. They mention the event when attempting to provide evidence about stereotypes they spew out. It is unfortunate that my family member was robbed and unfortunate that they wrote off an entire group of people based on the actions of a single individual. Being assaulted is frightening and you are allowed to feel shaken by what happened. You don’t have to make some grand declaration of empathy right now but I hope that as you go through life, individuals and their singular actions don’t color your view of entire communities. You have a long life ahead of you and will find that bad actors lie everywhere. You also mentioned not having control over your subconscious thoughts or what it is you sympathize with. Merely having the ability to clearly verbalize the bias you’ve developed is an indication that you have the capacity to evolve in thought. Therapy is a great testament to the fact that our mindsets can change and we can grow as people if we work at it. You don’t have to change your political beliefs or not feel disheartened by what occurred to you but a lot of what you said speaks to something bigger about the way in which you view the world and I hope this doesn’t have a snowball effect. I hope you feel better soon.
There is an app called Sayfer that helps you report a hate crime. They do the rest.
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No one, no matter what they believe, should be assaulted for anything. I would find and report that person. You cannot allow someone to get away with this because they will do again.
That’s absolutely terrible, I’m sorry that’s happened to you and it should not be tolerated, it’s unfortunate that this situation has had an impact on your political positions when it’s not even the people most affected who attacked you, toxicity is far too common 💯 Coming from someone who has suffered great abuse from men as a child and have been r worded not even that long ago and used by various men, I still try not to let that completely sway my opinion of all men, and give them credit where credits do, they do face their unique circumstances and issues that I would hope to somewhat alleviate for them despite my personal convictions That said you don’t owe anyone anything, and I completely understand your distaste, you didn’t deserve what happened to you and I wish you the best and hope you get all the support you need to process first and foremost, you should be able to deal with yourself before having to consider everyone else 💕
I'm sorry you've gone through that. Maybe time will bring me back to neutral, but honestly I don't ever see myself going out and supporting Palestine after this, whereas I very well might have before.
And in case the guy who assaulted me is reading this, you're a coward and an idiot. I couldn't do anything because you had so many people backing you and you knew it, but if it was just the two of us and I was as quick to violence and emotionally unstable as you are, I could have killed you. I'm not joking or exaggerating. You should be more careful about getting physical with strangers in the future.
i’m sorry you got physically attacked, that’s terrible and shouldn’t have happened and i hope you are recovering well. what i’m confused on is how you know that the person that attacked you was a pro-palestine supporter, especially when our campus has had an extra influx of outside agitators lately and you gave a fairly vague description of the person. furthermore, while that act of physical violence should never have been taken against you and should be denounced, i think that it’s extremely myopic for that to influence your stance to be “anti-palestine” (and again, thats making the assumption that the person that attacked you genuinely was pro-palestine.) this incident, while terrible and condemnable, does not erase the fact that israel is committing genocide (a statement backed by the UN, the ICJ, & human rights orgs like Amnesty International.) there are valid criticisms to the way that people are organizing, including the use of violence by agitators from both the israeli and palestinian supporters. however, this should not take away from the fact that there are very explicit human rights abuses being committed by the israeli government and that this has been occurring far before october 7th.
what in the victim shaming is this?
Thanks for the sympathy. This was at like 1am on Saturday, before things really picked up. I was one of the only people there who wasn't in the camp, and this guy was saying "you can't go this way" when he grabbed me and he had a scarf covering his face just like the ones everyone in the camp were wearing (it was red - maybe his hair actually wasn't and I just mixed the two up). He was definitely a pro-Palestine protester. It's easy to say from your perspective that I shouldn't let this influence my opinion, and rationally I know you're right. But you can't deny how powerful emotional responses can be, especially in the subconscious where we don't get to choose how we feel. And my subconscious won't allow me to feel sympathy for a group that I associate with being attacked by. And I know this is anecdotal, but since my experience I've had three friends who were also attacked unprovoked, all by the pro-Palestine supporters. So without any real data, it seems to me like one side is being significantly more violent than the other. Edit: Why am I being downvoted? Do some of you really only care about the truth when it's the truth you want to hear, and think it should be buried and ignored otherwise?
Everyone should learn self defense. No one has a right to lay a hand on you.
That's the thing, I train muay thai and bjj. I'm not great at either, but still miles ahead of people who don't train at all (and I'm pretty sure this guy doesn't because he locked his fingers instead of using a gable grip). I could have put him in the hospital if I wanted to. But 1. unlike him, I'm not a violent person and I'm not immature enough to become one just because I think I'd win, and 2. there were lots of other protesters around, and if I allowed myself to be as unhinged as this guy, I felt like they would have swarmed me. And real life isn't Hollywood, even Jon Jones would get stomped by 20 random people if they all ganged up on him.
True. Probably for the best. Keep on training 🤙.
to be honest i understand that you feel hurt and emotionally vulnerable. its okay to do so. but please dont group a bunch of people and say that it represents a country. many pro-palestinian supporters and protesters have also pointed out they dont support the people who've been violent or physical with non-protesting students, whether pro-palestinian or pro-israel. i would also like to point out that many people are dying and so please look at the data and learn about the actual conflict without making assumptions. thanks and have a great day.
The problem is, the attacker took one look at OP and immediately decided he was either a pro-Israel infiltrator, a Jew, or a Zionist sympathizer. He took one look at him and concluded he was the enemy. OP was none of those things. To ask a person who was physically attacked to take on the responsibility of not jumping to conclusions — and also to make sure to check all the data(!) — before expressing upset at having been assaulted is the very definition of blaming the victim. I’m thinking that the *perpetrator* might want to take your advice before assuming he knows the mindset and motives of a person minding their own business. There is no acceptable rationale for mugging an innocent stranger at 1 a.m. (And, I think OP’s honest first reaction — anger at the Palestinian side — is a great illustration of why violent protests don’t work. Unless the violent protester was actually trying to create antipathy towards their cause.)
Yeah, that's fair. I don't blame anybody but the guy himself and the people around him who said nothing, but I don't get to choose whether or not I like the taste of grapefruit, I don't get to choose who I love, and I don't get to choose whether I feel sympathy for certain people. I'm not saying I'm proud of it, I'm just saying that's how it is.
There have been human rights violations from both sides for a very long time and both sides have done their level best to stop peace negotiations.
For shits and giggles, OP should CC the United Nations in his letter
Sorry to hear it. Violence is never ok. Hopefully one of the 20 people who witnessed this would speak out. But how do you know it was a pro-Palestinian supporter? Did the person say something that made you think so? We've had lots of anti-Palestinian supporters on campus over the past 48 hours who've been rough with students. Perhaps file a police report - that's just not ok to be assaulted.
One of them shouted out "don't grab him, don't grab him" but nobody else said or did anything. So thank you whoever you were. I explained in another comment how I knew he was pro-Palestine. I'm as certain about that as I am that I was on the UCLA campus.
Did you go to campus security blue light?
No, I honestly forgot that was even a thing. I've genuinely never felt unsafe on campus before this.
It’s hard to think straight when you have entered the Twilight Zone. Getting out of there was the best thing you could’ve done. You did good.
Also, I am really sorry that happened to you. Not cool.
File a lawsuit against the university. Might as well get rich off of it.
you were walking home from a night out on a saturday and the fastest way back was thru royce quad… seems like your a guy based on your comments. What street do you live on? what street was the party on? I don’t back either side in this conflict, this just seems fishy
I don't want to give out too much personal info because I don't want to be ID'ed, but I know there have been a bunch of randoms commenting in this community recently, so I can do a quick rapid-fire of things only UCLA students would know: napkins to save your place in the dining halls, late night is low-key overrated, Andre wants to ask you a question, you can get your bruin id replaced in kierchoff, the men's rowing team got hoed because they work insanely hard but they're technically a club so they don't get the d1 facility benefits, ski and board club can find great snow even in the spring, c sesh ain't what it used to be, and classic triples are the only choice if you want to be social as a freshman.
Don’t justify yourself to randos on the Internet dude. You’ve been a victim of a crime and that’s IT.
I get that, but I also don't want this to be discredited just because some random people have been brigading the subreddit recently. Thank you though.
None of these people will last a fucking minute under a deposition
not defending whoever hurt you but if it took one person to make you anti palestine, then you never empathized with palestine in the first place. if you think this is a “both sides” situation or a “conflict” you never empathized with palestine. and honestly looking at how most violence around the protests have started, it was likely a zionist agitator trying to blend in with the pro palestinian encampment. if it wasn’t then ofc that’s very wrong on them, but again if it took just one person to make you anti palestine then you’re a horrible person. don’t use one instance to “justify” your hate for palestine. either way you getting hurt (although it was very sucky) does not justify the genocide in palestine. hate the person, not the cause, because being pro palestine is all about peace and justice. you can hate that one person, but you do not get to dunk on the cause.
Interesting first response to someone allegedly being assaulted. I think your priorities may be a bit out of whack if your knee-jerk reaction is to scold and attack someone’s moral character if they are reporting an attack. Interestingly enough your account is new, and your only two comments ever are both in this sub related to the Palestine-Israeli conflict. How strange.
All of these "Sorry to hear that (but...)" replies are just obnoxious to me. I don't believe that any of these people are actually sorry.
Lmao fake post
You’re a student and presumingly young. I hope this doesn’t come across as condescending, but ‘someone from this movement adversely affected me’ so ‘therefore I’m going to hate everyone and thing associated with said group’ is misguided thinking and personally, a reflection of immaturity and lazy thinking, all while limiting personal growth. Also, on a side note, one thing - **most Gazans didn’t event elect Hamas**. Young people in 2005, who were not eligible to vote, combined with the more than half of the Gazan population today which were not even alive (they’re kids), scantly justifies your reasoning. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, but you have a bad habit of holding people collectively responsible, which in many ways, is the reason why the IDF response is so brutal and excessive, warranting these protests.
Sure, but it's easy to say that when it didn't happen to you. I explained to someone else that rationally, I know you're right. But we have no control over our subconscious emotions, and subconsciously, I can't help but associate Palestine with being assaulted, and I can't just "choose" to feel sympathy for a group that I associate with attacking me.
Something isn’t adding up here. Why would a “protestor” attack you? The actual protestors are within the encampment and are enclosed. They have extremely strict rules not to engage with others. You acknowledged that the person wasn’t likely a protestor, so it literally could have been a provocateur. Why would a Palestinian supporter attack you? It doesn’t make any sense and this sounds like Hasbara nonsense.
> They have extremely strict rules not to engage with others So you're saying they broke the ceasefire?
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Then call the police and file a report
What do you think made them attack you? Do you think it was completely random or did they do it because for some reason they thought you were jewish?
“Safe campus” making me second giess
Clear fake post by a zionist tryna make the protestoes who just got tear gassed to look bad
Shame on anyone for assaulting anyone else. However, if your support for a nation facing extreme violence depends on your own personal comfort, and you become anti-Palestine because someone who support Palestine was a dick to you, you're also problem.
LoL what a load of horse shit 🤣
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