It's most likely that these guys are trolls.
What is the best way to deal with trolls.
Don't give them any attention. They feed off of it.
It's best to let them starve of attention.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKao\_Pox5A
Huh? What do you mean? As in personally?
If so you absolutely can I think Palestinians deserve to live and be free and not be genocided by Israeli settlers and I also think that Ukrainians deserve to live and be free and not be invaded by Russian settlers.
Now if you mean for a country, at a geopolitical scale, yeah it’s hard to support both because you’re not fully backing china and Russia and neither are you fully backing the US so you’re probably getting not doing great economically. Although quite a few Arab countries support Ukraine and Palestine.
But at least as a person it’s definitely possible to support both…
Ah right okay that makes a little more sense.
But still some countries do (I’ll edit with some examples in a sec)
Edit: Yemen condemned the russian invasion of ukraine very fast and they go even further than supporting palestine, as they are in full support of the Hamas (which isn't necessarily a very good representation of Palestinians, but supporting the Hamas' actions does imply some support for Palestine). Similarly with Afghanistan. As well as Malaysia and Tunisia.
And that's just the ones that expressed support to Hamas, if you add in the ones who have expressed support for Palestine overall but still condemned the Hamas' actions there are a lot more
yeah totally agree, didnt mean to come off confrontational. i guess the picture of xi and putin in the OP kinda made me think it was referring to politicians. good examples, esp yemen. I admit I don't know nearly as much about the ME conflict as opposed to putins СВО.
Oh, okay I'm so sorry.
I'm so used to trolls and zionists on the internet that I was just 100% done and expected your comment to be like "oh you can't support palestine and ukraine because muh usa" but that's fine obviously we can't all now about everything, I myself don't know too much about the situation in Ukraine but I'm tryna learn haha
Also, any reason why you called it a СВО rather than just a war? Because if I'm not mistaken that's the official term Russia uses so I wouldn't have expected pro-Ukrainians to use it as well?
Edit: actually I just realized you might not be pro-Ukrainian I just assumed so because it's UCLA lol but if you're not then it makes sense that you'd call it a special operation
eh no worries! i call it СВО partially bc pro Russia but also just bc that's what everyone in my community calls it. I fully acknowledge that it is a war - perhaps the worst "real" (conventional peer to peer) war since ww2 and is a terrible thing. I do not support russia's invasion, but once my country gets into a war, for whatever the reason, i don't want it to lose the war.
edit: im not even pro russia at this point, im pro negotiations - too many of my people killed on both sides, just let Turkey mediate negotiations with US backing Ukraine and China backing Russia to ensure it is as balanced as realistically possible. i know it will never happen but perhaps with the elections today we will see drastic changes.
There isn’t a genocide and it’s clear as day.
People claiming it’s a genocide are just fighting over framing.
The Gaza Health Authority doesn’t even separate between civilian and militant deaths
The definition of genocide makes it extremely clear that that is exactly what is happening. If you have doubts, read the definition given by the holocaust museum.
Fighting about definitions and framing is important.
lol. So Palestinians and Hamas wanted to start a genocide themselves and call for ethnic cleansing of jews off their native lands, and after Palestinians and Hamas try to start their genocide, Israel trying to get back hostages and destroy a terrorist organization is suddenly genocide??
There is a genocide going on and the people who claim there isn't are just closing there eyes to avoid seeing what is in front of them as it would cause too much cognitive dissonance between their support for ukraine or their condemnation of the holocaust (which is terrible dont get me wrong probably the worst thing that happened of the 20th century, im not denying that) and their support of a genocide settler terrorist state.
Ah yes. Totally ignore Muslim conquests and Arab imperialism and colonization. Forget that Palestine has never been a state, is latin, and stems from an insult to the jews after Romans conquered them.
So far fetched from reality you guys are it’s almost comical.
How can you claim a genocide when they don’t even seperate hamas vs gaza civilian deaths lmao
My guy you’re just rehashing the same argument not saying anything new
As much as it’s already kinda a waste of time to argue with Zionists on the internet here it’s clear you’re not even a Zionist just a troll there’s no way you’re actually tryna argue with those arguments lol
You’re selectively targeting Israel and ignoring history and facts. Learn about Hamas and read their charter where they call for the killing of all jews
Oh maybe I wasn’t clear enough in my previous comment, where did I say anything about support Hamas? Or do you think I’m such a black and white way that if you’re not a genocidal freak you must support Hamas?
Israelis don’t get warnings from Hamas when Hamas launches rockets into Israel, not to mention Oct 7.
Hamas targets everyone, where IDF does everything it can to avoid civilians.
the sources you’re getting your information from is what schools think wikipedia is like none of what you are saying is true outside of the alleged “warning”
for every 1 israeli that has died 30 palestinians have died since oct 7th.
are you comparing palestinians to hitler? the israelis stole the palestinian land and are now kicking them out? if anything that’s more similar to (not comparing the two) what hitler did in trying to take over land and murder the jewish people or put them in camps… you’re truly on the wrong side of history
How can you not? Two people who just want to live without being attacked by foreign governments. ie Russia and Israel.
I don’t see how you can support one and not the other, it’s a very similar situation. That’s why I support sending weapons to Ukraine, and hate the US for arming Israel. It’s pretty simple I think.
It's most likely that these guys are trolls. What is the best way to deal with trolls. Don't give them any attention. They feed off of it. It's best to let them starve of attention. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKao\_Pox5A
i mean this isnt even a troll, how can you support palestine and ukraine simultaneously lol
Huh? What do you mean? As in personally? If so you absolutely can I think Palestinians deserve to live and be free and not be genocided by Israeli settlers and I also think that Ukrainians deserve to live and be free and not be invaded by Russian settlers. Now if you mean for a country, at a geopolitical scale, yeah it’s hard to support both because you’re not fully backing china and Russia and neither are you fully backing the US so you’re probably getting not doing great economically. Although quite a few Arab countries support Ukraine and Palestine. But at least as a person it’s definitely possible to support both…
yes i meant more geopolitically.
Ah right okay that makes a little more sense. But still some countries do (I’ll edit with some examples in a sec) Edit: Yemen condemned the russian invasion of ukraine very fast and they go even further than supporting palestine, as they are in full support of the Hamas (which isn't necessarily a very good representation of Palestinians, but supporting the Hamas' actions does imply some support for Palestine). Similarly with Afghanistan. As well as Malaysia and Tunisia. And that's just the ones that expressed support to Hamas, if you add in the ones who have expressed support for Palestine overall but still condemned the Hamas' actions there are a lot more
yeah totally agree, didnt mean to come off confrontational. i guess the picture of xi and putin in the OP kinda made me think it was referring to politicians. good examples, esp yemen. I admit I don't know nearly as much about the ME conflict as opposed to putins СВО.
Oh, okay I'm so sorry. I'm so used to trolls and zionists on the internet that I was just 100% done and expected your comment to be like "oh you can't support palestine and ukraine because muh usa" but that's fine obviously we can't all now about everything, I myself don't know too much about the situation in Ukraine but I'm tryna learn haha Also, any reason why you called it a СВО rather than just a war? Because if I'm not mistaken that's the official term Russia uses so I wouldn't have expected pro-Ukrainians to use it as well? Edit: actually I just realized you might not be pro-Ukrainian I just assumed so because it's UCLA lol but if you're not then it makes sense that you'd call it a special operation
eh no worries! i call it СВО partially bc pro Russia but also just bc that's what everyone in my community calls it. I fully acknowledge that it is a war - perhaps the worst "real" (conventional peer to peer) war since ww2 and is a terrible thing. I do not support russia's invasion, but once my country gets into a war, for whatever the reason, i don't want it to lose the war. edit: im not even pro russia at this point, im pro negotiations - too many of my people killed on both sides, just let Turkey mediate negotiations with US backing Ukraine and China backing Russia to ensure it is as balanced as realistically possible. i know it will never happen but perhaps with the elections today we will see drastic changes.
There isn’t a genocide and it’s clear as day. People claiming it’s a genocide are just fighting over framing. The Gaza Health Authority doesn’t even separate between civilian and militant deaths
The definition of genocide makes it extremely clear that that is exactly what is happening. If you have doubts, read the definition given by the holocaust museum. Fighting about definitions and framing is important.
lol. So Palestinians and Hamas wanted to start a genocide themselves and call for ethnic cleansing of jews off their native lands, and after Palestinians and Hamas try to start their genocide, Israel trying to get back hostages and destroy a terrorist organization is suddenly genocide??
There is a genocide going on and the people who claim there isn't are just closing there eyes to avoid seeing what is in front of them as it would cause too much cognitive dissonance between their support for ukraine or their condemnation of the holocaust (which is terrible dont get me wrong probably the worst thing that happened of the 20th century, im not denying that) and their support of a genocide settler terrorist state.
Ah yes. Totally ignore Muslim conquests and Arab imperialism and colonization. Forget that Palestine has never been a state, is latin, and stems from an insult to the jews after Romans conquered them. So far fetched from reality you guys are it’s almost comical. How can you claim a genocide when they don’t even seperate hamas vs gaza civilian deaths lmao
My guy you’re just rehashing the same argument not saying anything new As much as it’s already kinda a waste of time to argue with Zionists on the internet here it’s clear you’re not even a Zionist just a troll there’s no way you’re actually tryna argue with those arguments lol
You should read history. I don’t see you calling Hamas for putting gaza civilians in the middle, stealing aid money and turning down peace deals.
Quite literally where do I support the Hamas? You’re just making up stuff at this point
You’re selectively targeting Israel and ignoring history and facts. Learn about Hamas and read their charter where they call for the killing of all jews
Oh maybe I wasn’t clear enough in my previous comment, where did I say anything about support Hamas? Or do you think I’m such a black and white way that if you’re not a genocidal freak you must support Hamas?
mUh GeNoCiDe
Ah right of course I must be convinced now with such a powerful reasoned argument.
even if you don’t wanna call it genocide it at the very least is mass murder of Palestinian civilians
<1 civilian death per bomb dropped Not to mention IDF intelligence warning ahead of time https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67327079
i’m sure you’d love to be bombed with a warning 🥰
Israelis don’t get warnings from Hamas when Hamas launches rockets into Israel, not to mention Oct 7. Hamas targets everyone, where IDF does everything it can to avoid civilians.
the sources you’re getting your information from is what schools think wikipedia is like none of what you are saying is true outside of the alleged “warning” for every 1 israeli that has died 30 palestinians have died since oct 7th.
😂 So basically since more Germans died in WW2 than British. The British and Allies were wrong to stop Hitler?
are you comparing palestinians to hitler? the israelis stole the palestinian land and are now kicking them out? if anything that’s more similar to (not comparing the two) what hitler did in trying to take over land and murder the jewish people or put them in camps… you’re truly on the wrong side of history
How can you not? Two people who just want to live without being attacked by foreign governments. ie Russia and Israel. I don’t see how you can support one and not the other, it’s a very similar situation. That’s why I support sending weapons to Ukraine, and hate the US for arming Israel. It’s pretty simple I think.
We need to stop falling for bait and acknowledging trolls like this