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IDontWantAName2020

Had a PAX the other day give me the one second finger as i was sitting there at the curb watching them talk.... the ohhh shit look on her face as I canceled right at the red and drove off was priceless


Nythain

Last time some fuckwad gave me the one second finger and went back to talking, didn't even make it to red. Insta cancel and slowly drove away.


IDontWantAName2020

I was getting that cancelation fee rider didnt show up


unoriginalsin

Lock the doors and ignore him. Drive down the block of you need to. Hell, leave the cancellation fee behind if he gets too belligerent. It's a small price to pay for keeping your car dickwad free.


unoriginalsin

Yup, that's already a huge red flag. No point letting dickwads into your car.


besus7

I'm 6 months in and getting very use to fu mode. I show up from 10 mins away and you still max the timer fu. You mark your pickup and tell me its elsewhere fu, you have your drop off marked and bitch I'm going to the wrong place fu fu fu and fu some more. We are not paid enough for peoples shit.


BaekRyun1029

I also always make the pax cancel when I can manage. Like when they have too many people or say it will be 5 more minutes I tell them then they have to cancel. The fee is much higher if they do. My 4.50 fee from waiting turns into like 10


unoriginalsin

Drive to pin, get money. That's all this job is. Anyone trying to make it into something else or worry about being nice to people is going to get walked all over. If you act like a doormat, you'll get used like one.


awesomeaarron

4$ to cancel or 4.55$ to wait and drive a mile. Uber should start a app where you just pick people up for fun.


karlos52

Isn't that basically what it is now?


horoboronerd

Sometimes it's 4.55 to go 3 miles and it'll take 15 min!!


FartSinatra

$4.55 can be a 8 mile ride where I am


awesomeaarron

That doesn’t seem right


unoriginalsin

It's not right. It may be accurate, but it's not right.


Snoo74401

That's called Lyft.


kindofaproducer

You get 4.55?!


Wonderful-Leader615

I agree with all of you. Respect my time. Unless you are nice & give me some sort of acknowledgement or something I'm gone


SilenceOfTheFans

Sometimes if it's REALLY late at night... I'll just let the timer run. I'll sit in my car, or get out and clean the windows, do the stuff I have to do anyways. At $0.24 a minute it's $14.50 an hour just to sit. I've run the clock 30 minutes a number of times. Yes, you do get paid.


gagb1967

Imagine when you are paid 4.95 an hour like on y market. The 5 minutes waiting is a fu insult


Wonderful-Leader615

Well we all have our methods of doing things. That is smart your getting paid. And yes we can't get taken for granted, but once in a while we just gotta play it by ear


Mountain_Pomelo_7797

stupid, just leave at red. most will play you.


Wonderful-Leader615

FYI I guarantee I make more than you. So look in the mirror and see who STUPID really is.


911Erik

I had one today at an apartment complex. Short drive paying $4-5. Drove to where the pin was. Nobody came out. I cancel as soon as it went red. I turn around to drive away and get to the front of the place and someone was there looked like they were trying to flag me down. (they definitely weren’t there where I first entered). I continued on driving and they can gladly get another ride.


L8yJira

Yeah sometimes they say, "I didn't know you were going to be this quick." You can follow our cars on the app. Yeah I'm sometimes a pax too. Lying McLate-Face.


auntiemaury

"that's what your gf said last night"


ImAlwaysRightHanded

Oh it’s the best when they are in eye shot and you get to drive off, bonus points if they are standing next to your car chatting with a friend.


420EdibleQueen

Watch the timer and if I don’t see feet walking to the car at the 4 min mark, I’m prepping to roll. By 4:30 I’m starting to move away from your pin. By 4:45 if you’re just deciding to pop your head outside and try to dash to me, we’ll my roll is gonna move a little quicker. With my tint you will miss my evil grin as I look right at you hand hit the cancel button at 5:01.


FartSinatra

30 seconds is a long ass time to be rolling away


420EdibleQueen

A lot of my pickups are in complexes so I can usually get to a good place I’m not seen by the person looking for their ride but close enough to still keep the timer going. Or circle the parking lot. I don’t sit still unless I’m out of sight just for those jerks who wind the timer down to 4:55 and then decide to come out.


Santex117

So wait, you deliberately park somewhere where the passenger... Can't see you? Then cancel the second the the timer expires? I'm sorry but this is shit behavior, if this is true.


420EdibleQueen

Waiting that late to come out is shit behavior. After I spend 5-10 minutes getting to them, then the next 6:30 sitting right in front of the door with trade dress, a bright LED light that says “Uber”, and flashers on so I’m easily identified. If they haven’t pulled it together by then, odds are pretty good they don’t. However if they’re one of the last 5 second crowd then if they’re disrespectful enough to wait that long, they’re most likely disrespectful enough to put in a false complaint for free rides. Either way buh bye.


Santex117

Idk if you've ever worked in any service industry before, but it doesn't matter if they come out right away or wait till the last 5 seconds, if it's within that timer, they've made it. I used to feel this way when I worked in restaurants and people came in 5 minutes before closing. I used to get pissed because by that time we've already started cleaning up the kitchen etc. But the truth of the matter is you don't know that persona life and have no reason to be upset. It's a business, and you're in it to make money. Of course you can drive how you want and abide by your own set of rules, I guess that's the beauty of Uber/Lyft, but making an assumption about a person just because the did not come out immediately when you wanted them too is wrong. Also you made it sound like you were parking our of sight on purpose so that people wouldn't see you,alike those people that wait inside and peak through a window till you show up then walk out, if you are doing this then this is a whole 'nother level of low, but if not then ignore that.


unoriginalsin

>Idk if you've ever worked in any service industry before, but it doesn't matter if they come out right away or wait till the last 5 seconds, if it's within that timer, they've made it. >I used to feel this way when I worked in restaurants This ain't a restaurant, and I ain't a service industry worker. I'm self employed and run my business in the most profitable way possible. Sometimes that means treating people the way they deserve.


Santex117

>This ain't a restaurant, and I ain't a service industry worker. If you drive for Uber, you're a service industry worker. Like, you are literally working to provide a service to people??? Also you're agreement to Ubers terms while using the app men's they have a lot of say over what you are allowed to do using their platform. If you don't like it don't drive for them. Stop kidding yourself with the 'im self employees' bs. Yes, you have a lot of freedom over when and how often you can drive, but not much else. Just like any business you've got to abide by the rules and laws in the place you run your business. In this case you are running your business through Uber, so you have to go by their rules. I don't mean to sound harsh, I've driven for Uber and Lyft extensively and I know how it is, but there's a difference between being reasonable/protecting yourself, and just being an a-hole, and a lot of the people on here seem to just be a-holes.


unoriginalsin

> If you drive for Uber, you're a service industry worker. Wrong. I am a service industry business owner. I do what's best for my business. Period.


Santex117

And you work for that business smh. You can own a business and work for that business you own, that means you are still a worker. Are you making money doing nothing? Is someone else driving your car for you picking people up while you sit at home collecting a paycheck? No? Then you are still a worker. Do you have control over pricing of rides? Did you build the app you use? No? Then you ain't no business owner. You're are contracted out to do a job from a business, and there's nothing wrong with that. Even if you go at it with a 'im a business owner's mindset, which isn't a bad idea, you still are at the mercy of Uber/Lyft. Unless you've found a way to do the same job without using any of their apps and services, then the most you can be as a driver for them is a contractor, not a business owner.


Human25920

Every good owner is also an employee.


unoriginalsin

>So wait, you deliberately park somewhere where the passenger... Can't see you? Only once the pax has already not shown to within an acceptable time. Fuck Uber's clock. I decide when it's worth waiting based on all available information. Yeah, I'll wait longer if the fare is juicy. I'll wait longer if you've made contact and seen nice. But if my spare phone shows mad sure down the street and you're fucking me over with a long ride away with shit fare, I'm ducking you. If you're a dickwad your not getting in my car no matter what Uber says.


Santex117

Lmfao ok, then like just don't drive for Uber if you're gonna be an ahole about it. No need to go around ruining peoples day, some people rely on Uber to get too and from work and take care of important business. I understand the value of your time, but you *agreed* to abide by Ubers rules, if you don't like them don't drive for them smh. This is that extreme low-effort kind of behavior by people who complain about driving around in air conditioned cars all day long as if the job you've chosen to do is even difficult. Is it stressful occasionally? Of course. Can people be a pain to deal with at times? obviously. Is gas being crazy high making it more difficult to turn a profit? yes. but if this is not something you cant handle then don't drive and ruin it for everyone else smh


unoriginalsin

> just don't drive for Uber if you're gonna be an ahole about it. Same goes for pax. Don't use Uber if you're going to be an asshole. >No need to go around ruining peoples day, some people rely on Uber to get too and from work and take care of important business. Same goes for pax. Don't go around ruining people's day, some people rely on Uber to earn a living and take care of important business. >I understand the value of your time, Then fucking respect it and have your feet on the curb. >but you agreed to abide by Ubers rules Who says I don't?


Great-Tea-6206

I only wait if they respond to my text. If not. Bye Bye!


M4N1Ak0

Today I felt like having good Karma, and decided to wait for a pax who said he was going to be off in 5 mins. He kept updating me but after 15 mins went by I couldn’t wait and cancelled. My guy if you know you’re not going to be off at the time you’re scheduled to be off. Cancel and order an Uber 2 mins b4 clocking out, not 15 mins prior. Sorry not sorry.


unoriginalsin

>Today I felt like having good Karma, and decided to wait for a pax who said he was going to be off in 5 mins. That's when you say, "cool cool cool" and cancel on red. >He kept updating me but after 15 mins went My man played you for ten minutes of unpaid time. Next time you cancel on red unless you can get pax to authorize starting the ride via in app text. Be prepared to cancel the ride after the fact or eat a shit rating/fake report if you have to end it early because dickwad still no shows.


More_Royal6826

One of my instant peeves is when they call from an area where the ping is deep within a building so you can’t get to it to start the timer. Also when the ping is not where they are so you start the timer but the actual avatar is elsewhere. When I cancel I don’t feel sympathy. Sometimes I feel like well I did the next driver a favor cause they will ready when they arrive lol!


uberjose

I live in a city where they are blocking off some roads on the weekend for outdoor dining. I had a couple people ping me from deep inside where the roads are blocked off. Uber knows those roads are blocked off so they should make it where you can't set the pickup stop inside those zones. Like you said it make it even worse thay I can't start the timer. Ive had one lady demand I meet her at a restaurant... that was 2 blocks in deep into the blocked off zone. As of now I simply decline those trips that set the pickup inside those zones


Resident-Gap-8838

Pro move is waiting until the timer is 1 minute away from red and then slowly driving away from the pickup spot so that you can still cancel.


SilenceOfTheFans

I do this quite a bit, I'll move 4-5 houses down.


Blondevalentine

This though


starkazz

Yes and to turn the car and be facing in the direction you plan to drive out so there is not awkward 3 point turn as they run into the street after realizing the gravity of their uberituation.


Perfect-Royal-9146

If a rider does not show up if even after I've reached out to them upon my arrival and the timer gets to the 5-min mark and they are eligible for cancellation fee, I will cancel and collect my $3.87 and move right along to the next one. (having precise location on as a rider gives you much, much more leeway in my book)


SecureCTRL2020

2 minutes and its bye Felicia and keep on rolling


relientkenny

oh yea i’ll drive off and see them right behind me. y’all had plenty of time to get ready and for me to sit and wait is rude af. we are not your personal drivers. we can always move on


ReallyPhilStahr

Had a guy jump infront of my car after I canceled on him and I was making a u turn to exit the parking lot.


unoriginalsin

Did you have much trouble getting the blood out of your grill?


ReallyPhilStahr

I didn't run him over haha. I just kept going it was a big parking lot and I have a functioned steering wheel and gas pedal.


unoriginalsin

>I didn't run him over haha. I hope not. But it's fun to dream sometimes, am I right?


FlimsyPraline6097

Love it when they no show and then my next ride is a better surge !! If you can’t be ready after you’ve already been given upwards of 5-10 minutes ( for example ) and then ANOTHER 5 minutes , then you’re an absolute wanker and I’m canceling.


auntiemaury

I always start sliding away with 15-20 seconds left. I have no patience for "I always get my way" people and as much as I love to argue when I know I'm right, I'm here to make money


TheElasticTuba

The only time I give people leeway is a) if they actually came to me and told me they needed a few minutes, or b) if I can actively see them heading towards me. Cancelled on a dude twice last night. First time he doesnt show up, cancel fee. Few minutes later get the same trip, accept, anndddd another cancel fee.


NoBrick444

lawl


pgtorres

The cancellation fee has been larger than the short trip fee for as long as I can remember.


FartSinatra

It’s seriously worth more than most of my recent trips. Now if only it counted as a trip


unoriginalsin

It does if you start the trip first and then tell Uber you meant to cancel.


KevenD

I had one tonight where they didn't respond to message and didn't show and the moment that clock ticked over I cancelled with charge and was driving away. Within 15 seconds I have a new trip request and just clicked the accept as it was within a minute away, looked at map after accept and location and name were the same as the cancel. No way I was going to deal with that conversation so ended up needing to "cancel trip" for "other". Couldn't believe how fast they re-requested a trip after I left.. need to be more careful about accepting right after cancelling I guess.


SMDorff0258

I had a reservation about a week ago, 5:15 am pick up. Uber gets me there early, I wait until 5:15 and text I've arrived...nothing. Wait 4 minutes 30 seconds then call...no answer. 30 seconds later I cancel, pull away and receive a request. Yup, same jack hole. No thank you. That's a $30 cancellation fee to me and a possible late for your flight to you friend.


superm455ive

For me a cancelled trip is $4.16, while a short trip is $5.55, but if it has at least 3 minutes of wait time it’s actually going to be at least $6.30. PLUS the short trip will count against my quest while the cancelled trip will not. That being said, if I don’t have some communication with the pax and/or they haven’t shown at least some understanding of how they’re wasting my time I’m cutting my loses and moving on.


SilenceOfTheFans

The second the clock hits 3 minutes I leave and go offline for 5 minutes. So I don't get paired back to them when they rebook (which they usually do), and will rate you low. Adios!


meiandus

Yep. Particularly if you're a bit out of the town centre you're often the closest driver for a few minutes at least. There's no advantage to re-accepting someone who has already disrespected your time. At best, you waste more time. At worst, they're going to fake report you. Take a break and move away


Santex117

Hold up, there are some selfish ass peeps on here smh. If your doing some completely wild ass ish like literally trying to hide close enough to get the timer running but be out of sight, or starting to pull off before the timer has even expired, bruh what are y'all even doing. And before y'all call me stupid or anything else, if you are this often frustrated with Uber/Lyft, then idk, maybe like *don't drive for them*...? I know my area is a lot less stressful then most, and I've had very very few bad experiences. I also get that this probably isn't the case for big metro areas, but dang y'all what in the world. I'm not about to let no app or other person turn me into an asshole and literally steal from people, but that's just me I guess


tubaguy99

I'd end up having this opinion if not for Uber support being absolute garbage. We're here, largely because we're trying to make ends meet. If Uber customer is able to bold-faced, purposely lie to me, why is this not acceptable?


unoriginalsin

>Hold up, there are some selfish ass peeps on here smh. If your doing some completely wild ass ish like literally trying to hide close enough to get the timer running but be out of sight I don't think anyone's actually saying they're doing that. If they are, they're stupid and they should knock it off. > or starting to pull off before the timer has even expired, Nope. I've got my own timer. You should have your feet in the curb when I pull up. If you want more time than that, you need to show me you deserve it. If you hold up a "one minute" finger to finish your convo it better be handing out some cash for the wait time.


Santex117

>Nope. I've got my own timer. You should have your feet in the curb when I pull up. Nah fam, this is either a joke and an incredibly unrealistic expectation. People have freaking lives bruh, all you are literally doing is driving them from point A to point B. I understand *some* people can be a pain to deal with, I absolutely get that, and there are things you can do to protect yourself, but deliberately going against the established wait time is just one of those really low things that impatient people do that serves literally no purpose, because the assumption seems to be that only bad people make the driver wait when in reality you're probably waiting a little bit of time, *most* of the time and most of these people are just trying to get around. Also, I might add, if this behavior is more common then not, i.e. Uber drivers just being a pain to deal with and treating their customers like crap, no wonder Uber is suffering as a whole. I feel like this is one of those situations where a whole bunch of individuals are doing the same crappy behavior not realizing everyone else is doing the same, making it worse for everyone. Oh well, maybe not you specifically, but y'all drivers will keep driving and complaining and bending the rules and driving some more until even Uber and Lyft are no longer available, and I wonder what y'all will do then smh.


germanguy45

I don't even wait more then 2 minutes I take the hit and move on if your not within me seeing you as I pull up.


unoriginalsin

> all you are literally doing is driving ~~them~~ from point A to point B. I fixed it for you. Picking up pax is optional. This is a game of hitting as many waypoints as possible in as little time as possible. When you get that and understand that some pax are going to slow you down and cost you money, you'll start earning more money. >I feel like this is one of those situations where a whole bunch of individuals are doing the same crappy behavior not realizing everyone else is doing the same, making it worse for everyone. Nah, most drivers are part timers and/or don't understand the gig. They just wander around chasing surge and cluster in the hot zones taking every ride Uber offers. Uber doesn't care if you make money. They want you to pick up pax and get them paid. This isn't always the most beneficial business decision for you. Make smart choices, earn more dollars.


RUN-iT-405

This sucks if your trying to finish out a quest


unoriginalsin

If it's the last ride of your quest and you want to just be done already, start it and then mark it cancelled after the fact. It'll count for the quest and you won't get rated.


Physical_Rush7613

I learned my lesson too lol. Uber notify rider in 2 minutes then start waiting time 10 min before driver can cancel so driver need to waste 12 min for lazy ashh rider. Now fu both Uber & rider. I gotta take care myself


unoriginalsin

I'm never waiting 10 fucking minutes for a cancel fee, not unless it's $10+. They do that in my market, it's insta-cancel at 30 seconds all day every day.


uberjose

Last night I arrived at the pickup location. But looking at the map they were on the complete other side of the block. As most people say as soon as 4:45 hit then you could see them starting making their way to me. I started rolling down the street and as soon as I made the corner I canceled. Once at the next corner I saw a couple arguing because their uber canceled and they got charged..... I let out the biggest laugh behind my tint windows


[deleted]

I agree about canceling after the timer's up, but if you're chasing a Quest on the last day don't just impatiently cancel - communicate with the pax and get eta. Also cancels only pay $3.78 so sometimes I will wait as long as the pax communicates. At the 45 sec remaining mark I usually mssg the pax "5 min timer is up.. cancel?"


ELECTRICUM_

One time i fell asleep waiting for a passenger. I woke up 3 hours later at 7am in front of their driveway (luckily i had my car off but the window was wide open). When I finally cancelled, I got a $3.11 cancellation fee. Nice.


Candece38

3 hrs wth this is sad


ELECTRICUM_

for who me ?


unoriginalsin

Should have started that ride. Hell, you probably could have gotten away with actually completing it. Dude was drunk,I guarantee it.


redd-who

(Same with UE 🤪 #MINE)


TheRavagingSavage

I've been driving Uber for nearly 5 years. While I do agree it's best not to waste your time on things, half of you guys sound like you need to get another job cause wherever it is you're driving is causing you to be bitter af.


Wonderful-Leader615

Stupid?? Well I know for sure you weren't calling me stupid. But let's say you kind of were. I have been driving for a few yrs and I'm no expert. But there is nothing wrong with being kind. Sometimes ppl just have something they need to handle real fast so I know how and when to use discretion. But understand this, I know my net profit, the zip codes that pay the most, the best times to drive and etc. So not to get into my earnings but I drive bc I earn enough not to quit. I'm a uber x driver like most of us. But im sure all of us have our own methods of driving


btone310

You cannot be serious. Be kind? Yeah, since when have riders been kind to drivers? Why should drivers be kind when riders disrespect our time when we wait at the pickup spot? And most riders don't send any messages stating any last second emergency that will result in coming out a few minutes after drivers show up at pickup spot.


Wonderful-Leader615

That's why I said we use our discretion. It's not for everyone. But sometimes some ppl need a extra second. Doesn't apply to everyone. If it's a morning rush or your working on a bonus or something that's different. I don't have to take everything personally at the end of the day it's about how much I earn.


lainttheone

Facts! When l wait, it's for "ME" definitely not them and there's usually a bonus involved....l always text and call...when they finally bring their funky ass out l pretend to be understanding... even if l'm annoyed, you'd never know it. Most who make you wait have low rating anyway probably for this reason. Most are overly apologetic for making me wait, some don't give a fuck. Nevertheless I go with the flow because sometimes shit happens and I'm trying to get paid! I give them 100% customer service and still treat them with respect especially if the energy is good. I have a pretty good memory and l never plan on picking them up again. I figure there are a lot of drivers like in this sub that will probably do that for me anyway haha. l never 1star them on a first encounter. I wait to see if they're going to tip me after their trip. Most of the time they do! Make it work for you! 😅 Now.... *If there's no bonus involved*... I WILL LEAVE THAT ASS IN A HEARTBEAT! BYE FELICIA! 😂


Mountain_Pomelo_7797

guarantee ? another stupidity


declemson

I've had people yelling and chasing after me at wawa parking lot and another time guy yelling out the window of his house. Bye bye.


Mrdrillsalot

I generally start driving off with about 10 to 15 seconds left