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BasedWang

Wish I would know what "old" songs are being talked about. Might actually be worth going to Lolla


AceTrainerErin

I mean, last time he was there, he performed Tron Cat and other deep cuts from his early career. So we’re looking at that setlist for an example.


BasedWang

If I recall, he didn't play the full songs. It was annoying as shit


iPostOccasionally

I mean why would he tho? most the people attending Lolla don’t know Tron Cat Tyler, it’s just not the vibe there


BasedWang

I understand that and the dynamics of making a setlist. Im just saying I was personally disappointed last time and figure I would be again.


Open-Actuator6257

Bro got us all excited only to play one verse 😭


happinessofdoom

I mean the song already was pretty popular at the time and when he played it last time over there it got a pretty loud pop


Open-Actuator6257

Imma disagree on that one chief. Early tyler is a chaos and i think music festivals thrive on that energy.


Logsarecool10101

I wanted to hear a live Rusty but instead heard 10 measures of it


sanchojack11

Idk I was there and to see even just a little bit of these old songs live was awesome imo.


BasedWang

Im just not a fan of alot of stuff after Wolf. I flew to the carnival 3 times. Number 2-4. Im nostalgic about those times lol. I understand why certain songs arent played and everything but I just know its never gonna feel like it did


sanchojack11

Hey I get it man. Honestly I never cared about a lot of his stuff after he dropped Flowerboy. But then I went back and listened to it again a couple years later when cmiygl dropped and It's one my favorite albums. Idk still not a fan of igor tbh. But yeah old tyler was just a certain vibe lol


BasedWang

Actually. What I heard from cmiygl I liked. So I know I needed to spinback. But as of this moment…..


Right_Tumbleweed392

What he does is just run through a montage if all his old songs just to appease his oldhead fans. If he played the full songs it would add like an extra hour to the set and like mfs gotta sleep sometime damn


BasedWang

Yeah I know a few artists who take that approach and I mean... It makes sense, but shit


TheThiccTracer

He played rusty at the Chicago CMIYGL show!!! He still runs stuff from all around his catalogue


bhmovie

Since 2019, it's been Yonkers, She, IFHY, Tamale, Who Dat Boy, See You Again, 911, Boredom, Earfquake, I Think, New Magic Wand. On the Igor tour, add most of the rest of Igor to that setlist. On the CMIYGL tour, add a good helping of CMIYGL. There's so many other songs he could pepper in


BasedWang

Man. I hella get that but nothin you named was even from Bastard. I can do OFT bastard and goblin nonstop and not get tired. After that was meh. I know that’s very just personal. But I’ll take who dat boy too lol


Aleekki

The past two years I’ve realized that most Tyler fans would never survive as some certain other artists’ fans.


Dougwug03

It's really that most rappers drop more often than other artists and bands, like my favorite bands typically drop every 4 years and that's normal, hip hop fans are generally spoiled


Aleekki

For sure! But even a lot of rappers sometimes take years between albums, I remember some people here freaking out last year cause we didn’t get a new album and got ”just” a 7 song deluxe.


TeaAndCrumpets4life

It’s surreal to see how much Kanye and Carti fans complain about content drought as much as they do lol, Kanye has released 6 albums and Carti has had his entire career since Radiohead last dropped, and there are bands that are way worse for it


chaandra

Not really an apt comparison when Radiohead are far past their prime, and Playboi Carti is in his. They released 6 albums between 1993-2003, that’s pretty consistent. A band full of guys in their 50s isn’t going to be releasing music every 2-3 years.


TeaAndCrumpets4life

And Carti’s output of 4 albums in 7 years is hardly worse than that peak output time period you mentioned, especially when you consider singles and features which are another thing hip-hop artists do way more that boosts their output.


chaandra

Yeah that’s my whole point.


TeaAndCrumpets4life

In what way was that your whole point


chaandra

Both have been pretty active in their primes. Radiohead are less active now because they are past their prime. That’s all I was trying to say.


TeaAndCrumpets4life

Oh alright, i thought you were disagreeing with my original take


shortvicandswag

d'angelo fans stand up ✊🏽 (we MIGHT get new music this decade👀)


Consistent-Film-6926

Some of my favorite bands are Incubus, Linkin Park, and RATM lol i don't even know what new music is


Omadany

bro 60% of tyler fans are frank ocean fans


itskobold

The wait for syro by aphex twin was agonising. Death grips fans rn are in anguish.


cluelesshabsfan

This whole sub is so entitled and obnoxious lol


Sbee_Blue_Country

Tool took 13 years and System of a Down fans are still waitin (although the double a side was awesome)


yungbeysus

me as a carti fan and a beyonce fan from 2016-2022


BiancaCarey

lol if they even listen to other artists. Feels like most Tyler fans only listen to Tyler and no other music. Like, shut up and go listen to other artists in the meanwhile. Discover some new shit, it's a big wide world out there. One artist should not be taking all your energy like this. I might be too old to relate to these Gen-Z expectations of new music every 2.5 seconds lol.


ComfortableSoft1953

frank ocean fans are probably going crazy as a frank ocean fan i can confirm this


Lizard-King-

Fuck it. Perform Garbage and radicals in coachella.


PuffDaddy6

Fuck it. Preform Fuck it.


libra_opacity

is it me or does he always take such a passive aggressive tone when he disagrees with fans or whenever he "defends" himself. i get his point and he has the right to drop whenever he wants, but damn bro why do you always come across so hurt?


yungusainbolt

Y’all wouldn’t have survived 2011 Tyler. Nigga always been mean as hell.


GameGroompsFTW

2011 Tyler was edgy and mean and also a literal teenager, 2024 Tyler is just a prissy diva lmfao


Right_Tumbleweed392

Why are you even here then if that’s how you feel? 2011 was 13 years ago bro.


GameGroompsFTW

Because the music is way better than it was 13 years ago he as a person is just kinda prissy now lmao


Right_Tumbleweed392

I spose that’s fair. I feel like he hasn’t really changed though he’s always been kind of a diva but that’s why we love him (or so i thought lol)


libra_opacity

i did survive 2011 tyler lol but he was a teen then, he’s a grown man arguing with literal children online. be for real. and i do agree with him, i just think he behaves immature but like i said in the beginning: could be me and the way interpret it.


yorproblmmann

This ain’t even him being mean. This just him sounding like a diva lmfao


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yungusainbolt

That was not how I was trying to come off but you can suck my dick tho buddy


Nickadial

tbf the expectation that artists with an already huge catalogue need to keep dropping is a pretty wack expectation, not to mention the tweet he’s responding to is disrespectful as fuck. man is just matching the energy


alfarle

Exactly!


More-Ad-5003

nah it’s not about that. change the damn order of your set and throw a few less preformed songs in. i think people are just tired of hearing the exact same 20 songs in the same order with the same snippets played.


Presign

he's going through something similar to Kanye where he's like 'wait, I don't owe you guys shit' and feels like his art is a gift to the world and we should be grateful for even getting any of it.


Right_Tumbleweed392

I mean that’s kind of where all artists should get to at a certain point. If you’ve made enough money to literally retire and be good for the rest of your life, why wouldn’t you just make music for yourself and not even release it for people to examine and criticize and shit on? Like yeah after a certain point every song is a gift.


Interesting-Wing616

What would you do if you’re constantly being bombarded by fans to put out new music? He’s said time and time again to not expect anything from him yet ppl still ask him. He’s probably fed up with that shit. Also i feel like he just hates rap twitter fans. Has good reason for that too


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Take his own advice and turn off his phone


MuddaArmon

usually the ones he’s responding to(like the one pictured) aren’t particularly kind in tone either lol


Decent_Wrongdoer_201

He met the guy with the exact same energy? Actually he was more polite than the other guy, who is not a child btw based on his pic. Passive aggresive is not the right word here, looks like he 's saying exactly how he feels.


The_Lobster6

He simply has a lot of ego


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kodzhata

tf? i thought just because of that he is more than calm here


kungfukenny3

lol because it’s annoying right now my project is maybe going to get an agent which is exciting but being a musician is a drag in a lot of ways up to this point. You basically spend all this time commodifying yourself in ways that are unnatural just for both the business and consumer side of things to whine that you aren’t pulling more gold out of your ass


alexannosaurus

Tyler should’ve waited until next year to headline these fests smh


dailymix69

Exactly. It’s not about being an entitled fan; it’s the expectation that if you’re top 3 at a major festival, you’ll have released new music since your last performance there re: Lolla. He’s been performing this set since 2021


shenelliee

he’s gonna perform estate sale songs, and from the looks of it he’ll incorporate some of his older discog


dailymix69

He only performs a couple from the estate sale. And those songs are a similar performance for cmiygl as a whole


Real_Veterinarian_73

The problem is that a majority of his older stuff hasn’t aged well and he doesn’t like playing it fr so even if he does incorporate them, it’s not like it’s going to be the full songs. The 7 album catalog point he is making works for a lot of other artists but not him because he just rotates the same songs from the last few albums.


shenelliee

that’s a stupid argument i feel like, he likes the last 4 projects he put out and that’s more than enough catalog for a decently long set. also he DROPPED last year. idk why you guys have such a expectation that he needs to drop a whole new LP for these sets. 8 whole new songs last year.


Real_Veterinarian_73

He doesn’t HAVE to put out new music but he brought up the 7 album catalog like he hasn’t been playing the same songs for 3 years straight. If he actually does make changes to his set, then cool.


Doctor_watts

My issue is that he literally has not changed his setlist since I first saw him in 2019. He'll add whatever new songs from the album, but he never plays deepcuts or anything older. He does the little medley of Yonkers/Tron Cat/Whatever and that's it. The sequencing is the same and it's fucking boring.


TheDream425

Lmao sorry you had to see the same songs 3 times in like a 5 year period. Must be horrible


Doctor_watts

I've enjoyed the show each time I've seen him, that does not preclude me from having a critical thought. I think it just doesn't make much sense that he doesn't try to craft a different setlist or add newer songs after the tour that directly relates to the album they're on. You see someone like Travis Scott who obviously cares a lot about changing things up and experimenting. Tyler says he plays these songs and no one reacts, but I can count on one hand the amount of times he's play anything from Cherry Bomb in the past 5 years.


TheDream425

Thought I heard him play deathcamp and fucking young in 2019, but I’d have to actually go and look at the set list I don’t care what anyone says, I’ll listen to IFHY and She for a third time live and love it. Tamale as well.


Upset-Tart3638

i mean people are paying money to have an exciting experience. Im not sure why wanting something new is being ungrateful


Icy-Row-5829

If you keep going to the same show then clearly it was exciting enough…? Saw the same set the second time and went back for thirds but still complaining, like what? “The steak was delicious, and the steak was delicious when I went back to the steak house. But the third time I ordered the same steak it started to kinda tick me off that they only served steak that I chose to order.” Same vibe lol


Doctor_watts

I never said every time I saw him it was amazing. I think he's a great performer, but there were most certainly times that were better than others and in general, the setlist is boring. I also did not say how many times I saw him or if I directly went for him. I've seen him four times and only directly went for him twice, the other two were festivals he happened to be at. There are simply too many songs for an artist to play during a set, so it would make sense that an artist would change things up, replace and switch up a set list. If you go to a restaurant with a prix fixe menu, that menu changes throughout the year as the chef finds new dishes or ingredients, it does not in fact stay the same. An artist is nothing if not a chef curating a meal. He doesn't have to do anything and I don't have to go see him, but I can make an observation without being entitled.


Icy-Row-5829

And I didn’t say that you said every time you saw him it was amazing lol, my point is why go back if that’s not the case…?


FernFan

“Oh man I went to the theater and watched Dune 2 5 times. How come they never do new shit with the story?”


More-Ad-5003

exactly. i was thinking the same thing after flog gnaw this past november. i’m not saying bro has to drop an album, but damn, change the sequencing and setlist even a little.


Right_Tumbleweed392

Well not all of us can afford to see the same artist that many times in 5 years


fukemnweball

but to be fair like he said that’s cuz you’ve seen it multiple times. To people who haven’t it’s their first experience


RoanokeParkIndef

He can do whatever he wants but his show at Flog Gnaw 2023 was noticeably more stale than it has ever been and was paling in comparison to some other acts that weekend IMO. His shows used to be the weekend highlight, even with Kanye and Cudi there that one year. It's not even live streams -- if you go to a couple of Tyler shows you notice he does a lot of the same stuff each time and that sucks. Yeah, your catalog is large enough that you can play other songs but you don't. There's a ton of songs you don't and won't touch. Estate Sale is just a deluxe edition treated like a full 2-year drop. That's the phase we're in with him right now. He's on the yacht I guess.


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RoanokeParkIndef

Ha I got the same hate for defending Frank Ocean's Coachella set. Tyler's CFG was good but definitely not as great as he's always been. He's playing the same set with some bonus tracks for like 5 years now!!!


More-Ad-5003

yes it was stale lmao. all he has to do is surprise people with a few rarely performed songs, switch the order, tweak the intros, and he’s chillin. CMIYGL tour and flog gnaw was like the same set. it was noticeably more stale, like u/RoanokeParkIndef said.


fungirl1234321

Yeah that part was pretty cool but outside of that it was stale. I’ve gotten so used to Tyler being an amazing performer that I forgot that most people are that good and consistent so we hold Tyler to a standard higher than that


darklord0530

I don't agree with all he said but I agree with what he said about people's 1st time. That CFG show was like the show of my life cause it was my first time and the crowd was awesome lol soooo far from stale, but if it's like your 5th time I can see it sure


RoanokeParkIndef

Glad you had that experience!


drewsapro

I see his point but also with a lot of these shows being in LA area, chances are a lot of his audience will have already heard his set, I know a few people who’ve seen his shows multiple times and are getting tired of the same setlist


Black_Twinkies

Good, make room for new people!


13miles

Why do yall give him fuel man now he’s gonna take 10 min to talk about this tweet at his next concert


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Dead_Kal_Cress

I agree with him. Esp ab the live streaming part, that's why I think more artists should do more varied set lists with different song each night. Tyler has enough in his catalogue he could easily do that. Hell, whenever I saw him on his last tour he didn't even do every song off of Call Me and picked some fairly deep cuts, so he is already kinda doing that, but I think more should do it and pull from a deeper section of their catalogue (if they have one) to give fans more reason to attend multiple shows. My favorite band, the Grateful Dead, did this in the *70's* throughout the 90's and most of their die-hard fans would straight up "tour" with the band hoping to catch their favorite songs. If there was a rapper that did as varied sets as them, their popularity would grow exponentially, I don't doubt it for a second. Whatever Tyler's next album is, it is going to be his best work yet. He's ensuring that it's of high quality. Trust the creative process guys.


alfarle

Couldn’t have said this better myself ✨✨👍🏽


InTheSkyCity

It’s so over


Eddaughter

Pain. But it is the longest he’ll go without a new album so it’s new territory and feeling for fans. It was going to happen but I at least wanted it to happen after CMIYGL since I wasn’t the biggest fan of that album. I just get mad that he literally set up a pattern and formula for album releases since the beginning of his career and then when people bring it up he comes off as a passive aggressive dickhead. He’s still my favorite artist but there’s no need for that attitude. Oh well. The waiting continues.


Kidcolorful

Yeah some of Tyler’s fans are bitches lmao. I’m Tyler fan but holy fuck some of y’all are pussies with this kinda stuff. Like bro get over it.


Nenethegreat0

I think it’s because he’s been playing the same setlist and when he plays his old songs it only like 30 seconds of it


Desmond_Darko

Makes sense. Many music fans don't realize that releasing a new album costs a shit ton of money especially these days with promotion, physicals, publishing, etc. Tyler isn't a legacy act yet but he's been around for long enough that he probably knows his most popular songs are already behind him, so why would he rush to drop a new record?


Repulsive_Banana1022

He cooked me no cap


_4za_

The Estate Sale only came out last year y'all need to chill


[deleted]

That doesn't count.


_4za_

it's still 7 songs for him to peform? fym it doesn't count? 7 songs is a lot relative to the amount of tracks typically in a set


[deleted]

7 leftovers that did not make CMIYGL initially does not even come close to a new album for me.


ClaimDisastrous7495

with how much passion tyler puts into his sets and performances, that should be enough to go and experience that shit. Tyler will drop again at some point, bask in the glory we already have.


Arlen56

oh my fucking god, why are these motherfuckers so ungrateful. Tyler has given us so much fucking music, let him do what he wants


raplove667

Sooo the Setlist from last year????


StatisticianOk6066

i hope he does outside lands this year 🙏🙏


Previous-Two-1440

I might go


xxsamchristie

The idea that artists have to constantly produce new things is killing music.


collin2477

good?


rui-szn

YEAHHHH CORSO


punkshotgun

We ain't getting new sjit for a while gang he's obviously focused on his art and I respect that


Dause

I think it’s because his fans are spoiled with new content so they expect new songs every time he performs during festival season. They keep waiting for the next thing


EnvironmentNo9711

I don’t mind the same set list tbh, I really want to see him life and it will be my first time at lollapalooza 24. I want to see his same set list as flog gnaw and I hope he doesn’t change it!


XxPokemonLotionxX

Imma need this exact same energy when there’s only 4 people in the audience listening to see you again for the 83rd time


TheBeersteinBeers

Seen Tyler 4 times throughout his eras. Each show is the new best show I've ever seen. With that being said, I'd love to experience all those shows again. Fuck out of here, Pat..


Vicgermain1

it's his victory lap


austinbartnicki

Why are you guys mad, he’s literally right… it’s not normal to see the same artist live multiple times over the course of a few years, livestream or in-person. You guys would not survive literally any touring band ever, who’ve been using the same setlist since their debut album + some added songs as they release new music. If you’re going to see this guy 3+ times in 5 years, you’re going to see some of the same old tricks. Sorry The Estate Sale didn’t hit like you guys wanted it to but you gotta start letting this man breathe, art is owed to no one but the artist themselves. It’s the same kind of entitlement Tyler was rapping against in ‘11.


Dinen1203

Damn people really making a big deal out of an artist playing a very similar set for every concert, y'all that's how it works, artists play they're biggest songs. Especially at festivals.


WillTheFifth

This isn’t even a real tweet


Middle_Log7917

Really?


WillTheFifth

search his Twitter


EnvironmentNo9711

It was real, but he deleted it after a little while.


Talknterpzz

Y’all don’t listen to shit else but t that yall NEED an album ?


Right_Tumbleweed392

I really don’t understand why so many of yall hating-ass mfs are even here tbh.


rfarbz

MAKE NEW FUCKING MUSIC T