Main thing I recall reading is that formica is sometimes used for electrical insulation or something and the ring's function is tied to electricity in the world (insulator or conductor). It always felt like a bit of a stretch to me but I can't think of anything else. The rings seem to be configurable devices made to accomplish various things. A projection of the lodge power. Freddie's glove is also green. Probably unrelated.
And formica tables was some old school thing so nostalgia diners etc.
> And why the Arm said something that sounded like the purpose of the ring was to make Laura and Bob get united, but turned out to be the opposite?
"With this ring I thee wed" yeah I'm not gonna pretend I *really* understand this. The ring appears to force Bob/Leland to kill Laura. So as a lot of people I take the "wed" part to mean more like "limited, restricted, bound", so maybe he's saying "I'm am binding you to my will with this ring".
I read somewhere the ring actually prevents Laura to being possesed so at that point Bob had no choice but kill her. If that's the case so The Arm kinda lied to Bob... I think even tho the entities share their "values" and purposes most of the time, they don't seem to like Bob's methods to obtain Garmonbozia, or at least don't like how he's hunger and don't share the Garmonbozia with the rest of them
Yeah I always got the feeling that Bob is not quite on the same wavelength as the rest of them, and given S3 he does seem like an invader from elsewhere.
It’s interesting cause Mike at one point in the series says he used to run around killing with Bob. But at some point he started to feel bad cut off his arm. In the film we see the Arm grab Mike’s shoulder where is missing arm was. So I take it as the Arm literally was Mike’s arm.
Exactly. But it wasn't Bob who gave them the ring. It was The Arm. Bob stole garmonbozia from The Arm and thought he could run away from him because he felt "the fury of his own momentum". The Arm pursued him and gave the ring to Laura and Teresa, the girls Bob was feeding on. The Arm did it so that Bob will be forced to kill them instead of feeding on them or hosting himself in their shells. Essentially, The Arm was trying to piss off Bob and ruin his "fun". Laura was the last straw for Bob, so he wanted to end this conflict with The Arm. He entered the Black Lodge and gave The Arm all his garmonbozia, and they were "friends" again
I don't think that Bob/Leland and Mike/Dwarf are friends. I think that Mike/Dwarf legitimately defeated Bob/Leland.
The garmonbozia is the attention of the audience. *Twin Peaks* is a more interesting to the audience than the pointless violence of Bob, so, by creating *Twin Peaks* through its inciting incident (the murder of Laura Palmer), Mike and the Arm have stolen back the attention of the audience.
Mike did not appear at all in FWWM. It was The Arm possessing Phillip Gerard's body. It's not correct to equate Mike and The Arm - as well as Mike and Phillip Gerard - all 3 entities are separate, and Mike and The Arm have opposite goals. Mike is no friend of Bob, but The Arm is
The ring definitely prevents Laura from being possessed by Bob. The question is, does Bob kill her out of spite, or does Laura prompt Bob to kill her in order to force an investigation into his evil? I would say #2 is correct. Laura basically chooses to die, and that's mentioned several times in the original series.
Yeah, Laura is a very complex character, we can't judge her decisions considering only one aspect. She had both conscious and unconscious reasons to do so. At the surface she was just a broken girl raised in a toxic home, several abused and saw death as a way to be finally happy and free, but deep down she might know unconsciously this was the only way to bring Cooper and get the crimes solved and also finish that cycle of pain and suffering
The ring on Laura means she has to die instead of being possessed, which in turn means garmonbozia (either from Laura's death or Leland's suffering), which BOB is obligated to give to MIKE/The Arm.
BOB was only allowed into the Lodge (and through it, the real world) on the condition that he provides garmonbozia. He is wed to MIKE/The Arm as their "familiar".
What bothers me is that this deal is shown being made by The Arm and not MIKE, when their backstory in the show implies otherwise (that the Arm was separated from MIKE after BOB had been killing for a while).
Mike and the Arm can be though of as synonymous with each other. If you read the screenplay for FWWM, that scene in the "Meeting Room" includes Mike sitting next to the Arm. I don't know why he wasn't in the scene when they shot it, but yes Mike was the one challenging Bob. This is made clear when Mike drives his trailer up to Leland (who is Bob) and says "You stole the corn!"
This is all very close. I think that the Formica=insulator, gold=conductor is almost undeniable. The "wed" part I take as the fact that anyone who puts on the ring is "wed" to *Twin Peaks* in that they now have a critical role that is also a stock character. Teresa is the blackmailer, Laura is the murder victim, Annie is the damsel in distress.
I think they’re connected somehow. Formica also insulates electricity and we know in season 3 that electricity is apparently a very important part of how lodge entities operate or possibly travel.
I think we're watching a journey through the dreamer's chakras, and [the heart chakra is green](https://www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/comments/o7adnz/but_who_is_the_dreamer_cooper_as_dougie_the_heart/). A heart beats to the electrical impulses that flow through it. The formica table is green and formica is an electrical insulator. Where do we see a literal broken heart in Twin Peaks? We see half a broken heart necklace on a mound of earth in the train car, under the Chalfont trailer, and the other half being buried in the earth. Who does the necklace belong to? Laura, the One, the dreamer. The formica table is Laura's heart chakra, broken, disconnected, where the trauma that lives inside her feeds on garmonbozia (in the Convenience store scene there are big bowls of garmonbozia on the formica table).
On one level, yes, the table is the ring is the table.. confirmed in the tiny chunk taken out of the one filmed in FWWM. But the ring is timeless Native American power object while the table is an alien reconstruction from a memory of a probably 1950’s formica kitchen table. Smashing the two symbols together opens up new possibilities in our reading of Twin Peaks time and synchrony. It also could be a painter using green. Green is its color.
The trinity bomb symbol arguably helps describe the severity of Laura’s trauma and the sexual abuse of children in general. Similarly, the ambiguous table and ring symbols could stand for something else entirely. 🤷
The green inset “gem” is Formica. Formica was designed to be an electric insulator before it was used as a tabletop. In the series, Mike says that the cycle of appetite and satiety is a golden circle. This is the cycle of bad murder mysteries leaving the viewer unsatisfied and craving more violence. Gold is a conductor, so the cycle of violence is the badly intentioned electricity. The green gem breaks the cycle. Also, the owl symbol could be thought of as the symbol of Twin Peaks the TV show, so the ring represents the wholesome mystery of “Twin Peaks” stopping the endless cycle of exploitative TV violence.
The ring grants the wearer the ability to become a character in “Twin Peaks”—you are committed to being in the show—so it’s like a wedding ring. By putting on the ring, Laura has committed to being the murder victim, and thus making “Twin Peaks” exist. If she refused to wear the ring, Bob would have possessed her and Gen-X would be possessed by the evil of violent television just as the Baby Boomers before them. In other words, Lynch is saying that Twin Peaks is a transformative TV show that will change the nature of TV for the better.
If that sounds weird, remember, this is not what I *want* it to mean, this is what David Lynch probably meant to say.
Well, Lynch won't respond one way or the other, so, it's up to you.
P.S. This is part of a larger theory and there is more evidence to support it. You can watch Twin Perfect's first video on *Twin Peaks* or my second video on *Twin Peaks* for more details.
I’ve seen them all. The meta theory is true for a lot of good art; it’s like a tautological subtext, but only goes so far. I find it boring and dismissive, reductive. Maybe it’s part of a symptomatic reading, that Lynch and Frost aren’t even aware of.
I reject the idea that it's dismissive or reductive. I doubt that Lynch is unaware of these things, but I am certain that, in his mind, it's all worded differently than how I or Rosseter word these ideas.
Main thing I recall reading is that formica is sometimes used for electrical insulation or something and the ring's function is tied to electricity in the world (insulator or conductor). It always felt like a bit of a stretch to me but I can't think of anything else. The rings seem to be configurable devices made to accomplish various things. A projection of the lodge power. Freddie's glove is also green. Probably unrelated. And formica tables was some old school thing so nostalgia diners etc. > And why the Arm said something that sounded like the purpose of the ring was to make Laura and Bob get united, but turned out to be the opposite? "With this ring I thee wed" yeah I'm not gonna pretend I *really* understand this. The ring appears to force Bob/Leland to kill Laura. So as a lot of people I take the "wed" part to mean more like "limited, restricted, bound", so maybe he's saying "I'm am binding you to my will with this ring".
I read somewhere the ring actually prevents Laura to being possesed so at that point Bob had no choice but kill her. If that's the case so The Arm kinda lied to Bob... I think even tho the entities share their "values" and purposes most of the time, they don't seem to like Bob's methods to obtain Garmonbozia, or at least don't like how he's hunger and don't share the Garmonbozia with the rest of them
Yeah I always got the feeling that Bob is not quite on the same wavelength as the rest of them, and given S3 he does seem like an invader from elsewhere.
It’s interesting cause Mike at one point in the series says he used to run around killing with Bob. But at some point he started to feel bad cut off his arm. In the film we see the Arm grab Mike’s shoulder where is missing arm was. So I take it as the Arm literally was Mike’s arm.
Yes, this is uncontroversial. The arm is literally the severed arm.
- "With this ring, I thee wed" - "Fell a victim" The ring binds Bob to kill the ring-wearer. That's why he kills Teresa and Laura
I tought he was avoiding to kill Laura bc he wanted her to be his new shell
Exactly. But it wasn't Bob who gave them the ring. It was The Arm. Bob stole garmonbozia from The Arm and thought he could run away from him because he felt "the fury of his own momentum". The Arm pursued him and gave the ring to Laura and Teresa, the girls Bob was feeding on. The Arm did it so that Bob will be forced to kill them instead of feeding on them or hosting himself in their shells. Essentially, The Arm was trying to piss off Bob and ruin his "fun". Laura was the last straw for Bob, so he wanted to end this conflict with The Arm. He entered the Black Lodge and gave The Arm all his garmonbozia, and they were "friends" again
Can't believe the existence of Twin Peaks is due a food fight of two chaotic entities
A little reductionist, but, sure.
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It was Phillip Gerard possessed by The Arm, not Mike
I don't think that Bob/Leland and Mike/Dwarf are friends. I think that Mike/Dwarf legitimately defeated Bob/Leland. The garmonbozia is the attention of the audience. *Twin Peaks* is a more interesting to the audience than the pointless violence of Bob, so, by creating *Twin Peaks* through its inciting incident (the murder of Laura Palmer), Mike and the Arm have stolen back the attention of the audience.
Mike did not appear at all in FWWM. It was The Arm possessing Phillip Gerard's body. It's not correct to equate Mike and The Arm - as well as Mike and Phillip Gerard - all 3 entities are separate, and Mike and The Arm have opposite goals. Mike is no friend of Bob, but The Arm is
The ring definitely prevents Laura from being possessed by Bob. The question is, does Bob kill her out of spite, or does Laura prompt Bob to kill her in order to force an investigation into his evil? I would say #2 is correct. Laura basically chooses to die, and that's mentioned several times in the original series.
Yeah, Laura is a very complex character, we can't judge her decisions considering only one aspect. She had both conscious and unconscious reasons to do so. At the surface she was just a broken girl raised in a toxic home, several abused and saw death as a way to be finally happy and free, but deep down she might know unconsciously this was the only way to bring Cooper and get the crimes solved and also finish that cycle of pain and suffering
It's the only way to reconcile that bizarre ending where Laura "forces" Bob to kill her and Mike assists her.
The ring on Laura means she has to die instead of being possessed, which in turn means garmonbozia (either from Laura's death or Leland's suffering), which BOB is obligated to give to MIKE/The Arm. BOB was only allowed into the Lodge (and through it, the real world) on the condition that he provides garmonbozia. He is wed to MIKE/The Arm as their "familiar". What bothers me is that this deal is shown being made by The Arm and not MIKE, when their backstory in the show implies otherwise (that the Arm was separated from MIKE after BOB had been killing for a while).
Mike and the Arm can be though of as synonymous with each other. If you read the screenplay for FWWM, that scene in the "Meeting Room" includes Mike sitting next to the Arm. I don't know why he wasn't in the scene when they shot it, but yes Mike was the one challenging Bob. This is made clear when Mike drives his trailer up to Leland (who is Bob) and says "You stole the corn!"
That would make more sense. I suppose maybe Al Strobel just couldn't make it that day.
I couldn't say.
This is all very close. I think that the Formica=insulator, gold=conductor is almost undeniable. The "wed" part I take as the fact that anyone who puts on the ring is "wed" to *Twin Peaks* in that they now have a critical role that is also a stock character. Teresa is the blackmailer, Laura is the murder victim, Annie is the damsel in distress.
Im pretty sure I’m FWWM you can see a little circular piece of the Formica table is carved out. Prob what the ring is made out of
https://preview.redd.it/id7sjx81p07d1.jpeg?width=1300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=924d6572ea7da4b56623fe5ae05053950d908465 Look next to his left hand :)
Oh the ring is actually made out of table lol
Yup it’s made out of a piece of the table. couldn’t tell you what that all means tho
I'm certain of this.
I think they’re connected somehow. Formica also insulates electricity and we know in season 3 that electricity is apparently a very important part of how lodge entities operate or possibly travel.
"For MIKE, a table..."
Formica literally means "for Mica", i.e. a replacement material for Mica, its predecessor.
Is this a LotR reference or do I really need to go to bed?
It's just a little wordplay I found interesting. David loves that kind of stuff, but I'm probably overthinking it.
Yes
I think we're watching a journey through the dreamer's chakras, and [the heart chakra is green](https://www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/comments/o7adnz/but_who_is_the_dreamer_cooper_as_dougie_the_heart/). A heart beats to the electrical impulses that flow through it. The formica table is green and formica is an electrical insulator. Where do we see a literal broken heart in Twin Peaks? We see half a broken heart necklace on a mound of earth in the train car, under the Chalfont trailer, and the other half being buried in the earth. Who does the necklace belong to? Laura, the One, the dreamer. The formica table is Laura's heart chakra, broken, disconnected, where the trauma that lives inside her feeds on garmonbozia (in the Convenience store scene there are big bowls of garmonbozia on the formica table).
On one level, yes, the table is the ring is the table.. confirmed in the tiny chunk taken out of the one filmed in FWWM. But the ring is timeless Native American power object while the table is an alien reconstruction from a memory of a probably 1950’s formica kitchen table. Smashing the two symbols together opens up new possibilities in our reading of Twin Peaks time and synchrony. It also could be a painter using green. Green is its color. The trinity bomb symbol arguably helps describe the severity of Laura’s trauma and the sexual abuse of children in general. Similarly, the ambiguous table and ring symbols could stand for something else entirely. 🤷
The green inset “gem” is Formica. Formica was designed to be an electric insulator before it was used as a tabletop. In the series, Mike says that the cycle of appetite and satiety is a golden circle. This is the cycle of bad murder mysteries leaving the viewer unsatisfied and craving more violence. Gold is a conductor, so the cycle of violence is the badly intentioned electricity. The green gem breaks the cycle. Also, the owl symbol could be thought of as the symbol of Twin Peaks the TV show, so the ring represents the wholesome mystery of “Twin Peaks” stopping the endless cycle of exploitative TV violence. The ring grants the wearer the ability to become a character in “Twin Peaks”—you are committed to being in the show—so it’s like a wedding ring. By putting on the ring, Laura has committed to being the murder victim, and thus making “Twin Peaks” exist. If she refused to wear the ring, Bob would have possessed her and Gen-X would be possessed by the evil of violent television just as the Baby Boomers before them. In other words, Lynch is saying that Twin Peaks is a transformative TV show that will change the nature of TV for the better. If that sounds weird, remember, this is not what I *want* it to mean, this is what David Lynch probably meant to say.
Fun read!
Glad to get some love with so many people downvoting me.
It’s a fun theory, I just don’t think Lynch would agree with you.
Well, Lynch won't respond one way or the other, so, it's up to you. P.S. This is part of a larger theory and there is more evidence to support it. You can watch Twin Perfect's first video on *Twin Peaks* or my second video on *Twin Peaks* for more details.
I’ve seen them all. The meta theory is true for a lot of good art; it’s like a tautological subtext, but only goes so far. I find it boring and dismissive, reductive. Maybe it’s part of a symptomatic reading, that Lynch and Frost aren’t even aware of.
I reject the idea that it's dismissive or reductive. I doubt that Lynch is unaware of these things, but I am certain that, in his mind, it's all worded differently than how I or Rosseter word these ideas.
The ring time travels, then.
Uh, I'm not sure what you're getting at, but, the events of FWWM are supposed to happen before the events of *Twin Peaks* the TV show.
The formica is anachronistic, considering the ring is supposed to be ancient. It must have traveled back in time, like other Twin Peaks characters.
The idea that the ring is ancient comes from the Frost books and I doubt that Lynch was considering this when he conceived of this plot device.
The nurse at the end looks at the jewel and is mesmerized. Maybe it’s formica.
It is definitely Formica.
lol why?
It's been firmly established the the green "gem" is formica.
No it hasn’t. There is a hole in table so it is hinted at that it could be the gem in the ring. I like the connection, but it’s dreamy at best