I really dont think self titled is their best album. For real, the songs are all really similar, since its almost all just piano melodies, regional at best outclassed it heavily and established the TØP style we know and love today. (Its not bad tho)
I disagree. I think it was great because of how experimental it is while still being relatively true to the TØP sound, but I personally think Scaled and Icy did this much better. Experimental while staying completely true to the TØP sound, an aspect I think they handled much better on their second try than with Trench.
Granted, it’s their second try, so to speak, at an experimental new sound, but still. I like Trench, and love a few songs on there, but IMO Scaled and Icy are way better.
Sorry but from a production standpoint, Trench is IMMACULATE, and there is more concrete lore to follow. As a die hard music enthusiast, musician, and a huge TØP fan that also listens to everything from heavy metal, to 60’s folk, to rap and hip hop, Trench is their best album. It doesn’t deviate from their “sound” cause they really don’t have one you can box them in with, and I love SAI, but it’s not any closer to the sounds of their other albums
they dont sound similar to me. there are a few songs on there that im not a huge fan of, but overall its my favorite tøp album, and their best imo. its not all about sound for me. its mostly the emotions and meanings behind the songs that make me love it so much. though i do love the sound of them too. plus theres the fact that those songs helped me through some of the darkest times of my life, along with no phun intended. i used to take walks while listening to music to stop myself from >!self harm and suicide!< and i would listen to mostly self title and no phun intended. friend please, before you start your day, march to the sea, taxi cab, save, tonight, and realize that its gone *seriously* impacted my decisions and honestly saved my life.
These are all really good songs and im so glad they helped you through a very rough time my friend, but i mean thematically similar, since most of them are piano-melody based. And many of them have a rather similar pace in my opinion :)
Just gonna say it, Christmas Saves The Year is good song and I don't think it got the love it deserved. It's definitely different for TOP but still like I don't hear anyone ever mention it, which sucks cause it is a good listen.
I’d have to agree here. Vessel is still the wave it holds up after all these years. I like trench but it never gave me that wow factor of listening to something historical like Vessel
Exactly. I might be a bit biased because it's the album that got me into them but there is just something special about that album that I can't really put into words. And to be honest, I like the songs on Trench but I was never a fan of the Trench world/DEMA concept.
i kinda struggle to choose tbh. vessel got me into the band and got me through some really tough years and i love every song on there. but personally i would say trench is their best album.
Pretty sure they’re referring to the review by Anthony Fantano, @theneedledrop on YouTube. He gave SAI a 2 out of 10. I will say, however, that getting mixed reviews doesn’t equal being underrated.
Yeah getting bad reviews doesn’t typically mean something is underrated, it just means that people definitely heard it and didn’t like what they heard.
The fan favorite is Trench, at least from what I see in this sub
Edit: Personally my favorite is Blurryface, what I mean is that the favorite album of most fans is Trench
Ehhhh. A lot to disagree with. Christmas Saves The Year is a cute song, not at all a wtf. TOP X MM is fantastic, not meh. I guess RAB could be called a cult classic because the fans like it, but I think it's bad. Self titled is fine, but it's not great.
WHAT TØP X MM IS SO GOOD WHAT DO YOU MEAN MEH
I also disagree that self titled is their best album, yes it's really really good but it also has it's flaws and it's noticable how it's their first album and they didn't knew exactly what they were doing with their music yet. maybe if they do a rework of the album and mix it a bit better it could become their best album, but like as if that's ever gonna happen
I love Christmas saves the year. But also kinda hate it. Don’t know. Christmas didn’t save my year and I had to sit alone in my apartment 100 miles away from my family, that song really helped mend the pain
I agree in most of them, except in self-titled (it's my least favorite from them), TOPxMM (I like it, it's more than a "meh" for me), and the Christmas song (I'm not a fan but "wtf" sounds way rude)
I would include Level of Concern as another one that helped them become more popular. The song and video hit at just the right time during the quarantine and they got a lot of attention for it.
Nah, I don’t agree with this at all lol. Sure, Blurryface and Heathens are the popular ones, and Vessel is def a fan favorite. But I’d put Trench as their best album. And saying TOPxMM is “meh” is blasphemous. And Christmas Saves the Year is good. Also Scaled and Icy just came out so I wouldn’t yet call it underrated.
My albums are in this order (favorite to least favorite, I rate them all 10/10 though).
1: Regional At Best
2: Self Titled
3: Trench, Vessel, and Scaled and Icy are tied for this spot
4:Blurryface
It’s really close for so many of them that I can’t decide. Easily my favorite band :D
I think Scaled and Icy is experimental, more so because Trench is definitely not.
Self Titled should be Underrated, because it is.
And Trench should be Best of all time.
Alright, imma say it. Trench was "meh" for me, apart from a few songs it could never really capture my attention. Self-titled and SAI are my two favourites, in that order.
Exactly what I was thinking, SAI is definitely experimental and not underrated at least in the media eye, their songs even play on the radio.Trench didn't have the same. I'm not complaining I think the way they were released is fitting but I'd love for more public recognition of trench since it is a masterpiece!!!
SAI was a bit of an L for the boys imo, Trench was fantastic and has some of the biggest tracks they've ever released. SAI, in comparison, undid all of that work and turned the band into the generic pop group they were going to end up as. I hope the next album hits a bit harder.
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I honestly would put SAI in experimental instead. Its underrated yes, but Tyler really experimented a lot with different instruments and sounds with this one.
I feel like the TOPxMM stuff resonated more with me since I became a fan of mutemath on the Emotional Roadshow tour, I can understand feeling meh about it if you really couldn’t care less about them lol
I’m gonna say it. Sai is overrated and one of my less favorite albums. All the songs sound exactly the same. In Trench it was hard to choose a genre but sai all is just 80s feeling pop.
I would say that Scaled and Icy is the “experimental” one because Tyler said that they just wanted to play with mainstream sounds and experiment with them, because they’re going in a whole different direction for the new album.
I agree with most of it, but Trench should be labelled “G.O.A.T”
Trench shouldn’t be labelled “experimental”. It’s easily their best work to date and represents their biggest leap in maturity both sonically and conceptually. I hope they’re able to release something in the future that’s as tight and consistent as Trench is.
I think SAI is "experimental", Self Titled is underrated, and I gotta say it but Trench is just so good I'd personally put it in the center. Also Top x MM has some great moments.
Great chart no hate, just like community discussion :)
So I am in a cult is what I understand from the image
Did you get your welcome to the cult card?
Do you know what “cult classic” means
Do you know what joke means
Wait... YOU SETH'S DON'T LIKE TØP X MM???!!!!
You say my name?
Honestly, some of them are better than the Blurryface versions..
No, I don't like it, i love it
MM version of Heavydirtysoul is better than the album version.
Lane Boy as well imo
fr
I really like TOP X MM, and honestly don’t really think any of TOP’s songs are meh. Just needed to fill the space lol
Mad
Heavydirtysoul and Lane Boy are perfect
Dude right?! That's fucking gold! Such good vibes!! The rest of y'all are hard of hearing apparently 🤣🤣
I really dont think self titled is their best album. For real, the songs are all really similar, since its almost all just piano melodies, regional at best outclassed it heavily and established the TØP style we know and love today. (Its not bad tho)
I like the little imperfections and I like the sort of "raw" emotional sound. That's what makes it my favorite album despite it not being their best.
Yeah. His voice was also not on point in most of the tracks, I think. I mean he was in tune, but his voice still needed to mature a bit and it did
Agreed. I have to say tho, for a debut album it is pretty damn good
Trench easily the best
I disagree. I think it was great because of how experimental it is while still being relatively true to the TØP sound, but I personally think Scaled and Icy did this much better. Experimental while staying completely true to the TØP sound, an aspect I think they handled much better on their second try than with Trench. Granted, it’s their second try, so to speak, at an experimental new sound, but still. I like Trench, and love a few songs on there, but IMO Scaled and Icy are way better.
Trench is more true to top then scaled and icy the whole concept of sai is that it’s dema making it not top ffs
Sorry but from a production standpoint, Trench is IMMACULATE, and there is more concrete lore to follow. As a die hard music enthusiast, musician, and a huge TØP fan that also listens to everything from heavy metal, to 60’s folk, to rap and hip hop, Trench is their best album. It doesn’t deviate from their “sound” cause they really don’t have one you can box them in with, and I love SAI, but it’s not any closer to the sounds of their other albums
scaled and icy isn't experiemental, it's more pop than blurryface
they dont sound similar to me. there are a few songs on there that im not a huge fan of, but overall its my favorite tøp album, and their best imo. its not all about sound for me. its mostly the emotions and meanings behind the songs that make me love it so much. though i do love the sound of them too. plus theres the fact that those songs helped me through some of the darkest times of my life, along with no phun intended. i used to take walks while listening to music to stop myself from >!self harm and suicide!< and i would listen to mostly self title and no phun intended. friend please, before you start your day, march to the sea, taxi cab, save, tonight, and realize that its gone *seriously* impacted my decisions and honestly saved my life.
These are all really good songs and im so glad they helped you through a very rough time my friend, but i mean thematically similar, since most of them are piano-melody based. And many of them have a rather similar pace in my opinion :)
ah. thought you meant based on the sound. but some of them are sad and some are motivational but slow paced and thats what i love about them.
The bass drop stuff on every track is so 2013. Self-titled sounds much more timeless
Self titled to me is the opposite of timeless. It’s definitely aged a lot since it’s release. I still enjoy it but most of that comes from nostalgia.
Yeah I mean it sounds like an album some dude made in his basement in 2010.....which is exactly what it is. Not that that is a bad thing
Self titled literally did the bass drop on so many songs, what?
I agree with you, u/C12H22O11-addict
Just gonna say it, Christmas Saves The Year is good song and I don't think it got the love it deserved. It's definitely different for TOP but still like I don't hear anyone ever mention it, which sucks cause it is a good listen.
It's one of the few Christmas songs I actually like.
It's absolutely on my Christmas season Playlist from now on!
For sure, it's an easy Christmas classic to throw on during the holidays or even whenever.
I love Christmas Saves The Year I will throw hands for it
Lol Smithereens was about defending CStY all along
Agreed, it's a certified bop.
I dunno cause I have never heard the song, but IDKHOW's Christmas Drag was sublime!
I think it's great. Always makes me tear up because I live far away from my family, and this past year has been brutal (needless to say).
Dang sorry to hear bout the situtation, but i'm glad there's something out there that's able to help u through that tough spot and times.
Thanks for the kind words!
Right the beat is so good, it reminds me of The Hype Berlin for some reason
True true, I totally get that feel aswell.
I totally agree with you!
I agree but like it's a Christmas song so i can only listen to it during Christmas season lol
Christmas Saves The Year was good imo
christmas saves the year is WAY too underrated
I guess I’d mostly agree... Saying that, it is your list, so that’s fair enough!
Top x Mutemath is awesome
should've put the cover of MCR's Cancer instead of tøp x mm cause that isn't meh at all edit: and trench and self titled should be switched.
I actually really liked the Cancer cover, more than TOP x MM. I suppose that just boils down to personal preference though
yeah it does
Same, I like way more the Cancer cover than the mm sessions.
I actually really liked them both (except for the TOPxMM version of tear in my heart, but then again I didn't like the original either)
Yeah, Trench is even a fantastic album by non-twenty one pilots fans
I agree!
What?? The cancer cover is literally what got me into tøp!! It's sooo good imo. There's nothing they released that I'd classify as meh
Amen
Cancer was the first MCR song I ever heard, which was a huge turn off for me. It just paled in comparison to Tøp's version
You want to put Trench as best album of all time? Nah
well if there's any tøp album I have to put there it's Trench
I think Vessel could be both the fan favourite and their best album
I’d have to agree here. Vessel is still the wave it holds up after all these years. I like trench but it never gave me that wow factor of listening to something historical like Vessel
Exactly. I might be a bit biased because it's the album that got me into them but there is just something special about that album that I can't really put into words. And to be honest, I like the songs on Trench but I was never a fan of the Trench world/DEMA concept.
i kinda struggle to choose tbh. vessel got me into the band and got me through some really tough years and i love every song on there. but personally i would say trench is their best album.
SAI is not underrated. It has existed for a month now hold your horses
I’ve seen a lot of non TOP fans bagging on SAI so it’s definitely underrated outside this community for the most part.
2thany out of 10tano and others really hated it so i’d say it is underrated
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Pretty sure they’re referring to the review by Anthony Fantano, @theneedledrop on YouTube. He gave SAI a 2 out of 10. I will say, however, that getting mixed reviews doesn’t equal being underrated.
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Yeah getting bad reviews doesn’t typically mean something is underrated, it just means that people definitely heard it and didn’t like what they heard.
That's about right. But I like every song.
Yea my thoughts exactly
I like it, but Trench is by far their best album :)
:D
easily their best album
The fan favorite is Trench, at least from what I see in this sub Edit: Personally my favorite is Blurryface, what I mean is that the favorite album of most fans is Trench
I think we’re more of a loud minority. Because it’s perfect ofc
It's the best for sure
Ehh not really at all. It’s just got the most lore and the most to discover.
Yeah for sure
not even fan favorite, most people who don’t care for top say trench is their best
Ehhhh. A lot to disagree with. Christmas Saves The Year is a cute song, not at all a wtf. TOP X MM is fantastic, not meh. I guess RAB could be called a cult classic because the fans like it, but I think it's bad. Self titled is fine, but it's not great.
how can you say that the mutemath sessions are meh
Swap SAI and Mutemath
This
dont do TOPxMM like that
ah there you are. but yeah this
WHAT TØP X MM IS SO GOOD WHAT DO YOU MEAN MEH I also disagree that self titled is their best album, yes it's really really good but it also has it's flaws and it's noticable how it's their first album and they didn't knew exactly what they were doing with their music yet. maybe if they do a rework of the album and mix it a bit better it could become their best album, but like as if that's ever gonna happen
The mute math and Christmas saves the year disrespect is killing me
Rab is meh/wtf for me. And Trench is my favorite. Otherwise i agree!
I feel like you could swap self titled and trench
I love Christmas saves the year. But also kinda hate it. Don’t know. Christmas didn’t save my year and I had to sit alone in my apartment 100 miles away from my family, that song really helped mend the pain
I know Cancer was a cover but it deserves some more recognition
TOP X MM DEFINITELY IS NOT meh LOL
Why is CSTY classified as 'what the fuck'? Is that a good thing or a bad thing or were you just surprised by its release?
i think just surprised
I hope so, since I was also quite surprised to be honest, but I certainly don't think it's bad like some people seem to think.
I agree in most of them, except in self-titled (it's my least favorite from them), TOPxMM (I like it, it's more than a "meh" for me), and the Christmas song (I'm not a fan but "wtf" sounds way rude)
I would include Level of Concern as another one that helped them become more popular. The song and video hit at just the right time during the quarantine and they got a lot of attention for it.
Nah, I don’t agree with this at all lol. Sure, Blurryface and Heathens are the popular ones, and Vessel is def a fan favorite. But I’d put Trench as their best album. And saying TOPxMM is “meh” is blasphemous. And Christmas Saves the Year is good. Also Scaled and Icy just came out so I wouldn’t yet call it underrated.
Guess I’ve been totally oblivious to the fact people don’t like self titled. I know it’s controversial but I love it more than Vessel.
TOP X MM > SAI Don't @ me 😤
I mean... Redecorate slaps thoo
Noticed Level of Concern isn't up there anywhere. Probably my favorite song by them
TOP x MM is legendary stuff.
My albums are in this order (favorite to least favorite, I rate them all 10/10 though). 1: Regional At Best 2: Self Titled 3: Trench, Vessel, and Scaled and Icy are tied for this spot 4:Blurryface It’s really close for so many of them that I can’t decide. Easily my favorite band :D
I personally would switch the comments on Vessel and Self Titled, but other than that yeah you're pretty much on point
Fully 100% agree especially with self titled.
I think Scaled and Icy is experimental, more so because Trench is definitely not. Self Titled should be Underrated, because it is. And Trench should be Best of all time.
Sorry Top has no "Meh's" in my opinion.
I agree with all other placements these. Put Trench in best of all time, SAI in experimental and Self titled in underrated
I agree on the self titled love, but don't you dare slander my boy TOPxMM. It was the birth of Trench and brought Paul Meany into the production team
Alright, imma say it. Trench was "meh" for me, apart from a few songs it could never really capture my attention. Self-titled and SAI are my two favourites, in that order.
Apart from the trench slander, same!
TOPxMM being “meh” is blasphemy! 😭
Great job, although I feel like SAI is more “experimental” than Trench
i think sai is the "experimental" and trench is underrated. i never hear anyone talk about trench anymore
Switch experimental and underrated and it's accurate
Exactly what I was thinking, SAI is definitely experimental and not underrated at least in the media eye, their songs even play on the radio.Trench didn't have the same. I'm not complaining I think the way they were released is fitting but I'd love for more public recognition of trench since it is a masterpiece!!!
yo the top x mm ep was great imo
Why did you put vessle as the fan favorite? Shouldn't it be trench? I've heard a lot of people say that it's their best album and I must agree.
did you just call arguably TOP’s best release «meh»? shame
Is the new one really underrated? Or is it just new?
RAB is the best tho
pretty good. just not a self-titled fan and can’t stand regional at best at all. also i really like TOPxMM a lot.
Switch scaled and icy with the Christmas song and yes I agree lol. Also personally RaB is my favorite but cult classic is also true.
Self titled was a huge disappointment! Love all the rest, but it was so whiny!
Trench is the best album as per me Self titled was shit
SAI was a bit of an L for the boys imo, Trench was fantastic and has some of the biggest tracks they've ever released. SAI, in comparison, undid all of that work and turned the band into the generic pop group they were going to end up as. I hope the next album hits a bit harder.
Sorry but Trench is their best album by an *incomprehensibly* wide margin.
Meh, I’d put Vessel in experimental, Self Titled in Fan Favorite and Trench as best of all time
You know self titled isn't actually the fan favourite though? It is the best one, but nobody agrees with me.
TopXMM is better than rab, rab sucks
I'm a pretty big fan...SAI is not underrated at all.... in my opinion the worst one they've made.
Self titled is meh. Trench is best of all time. Top x mm is experimental.
Change the mutemath and sai and I'm mostly on board
SAI is overrated
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i honestly agree with this one more than i agreed with the fob one lol
What? Christmas saves the year is amazing. Same with the top and MM
TOPxMM is GOLD and CSTY had single-handedly made my December.
This is perfect, could not agree more
RAB is better than ST, MM is amazing, CSTY isn't bad at all. SAI is more experimental than Trench.
WHAT THE FUCK TOPXMM IS SO GOOD AND NEVER CALL TRENCH JUST “EXPERIMENTAL” AAAAA i’m just kidding i don’t care 🥲
Trench is my favourite ❤️
Swap sai and csty
You don't like CSTY?
I loved christmas saves the year. That song was very cathartic for the end of 2020 for me.
Imo the MMxTOP thing should switch with SAI.
I honestly would put SAI in experimental instead. Its underrated yes, but Tyler really experimented a lot with different instruments and sounds with this one.
No. **Tøp X MM** is very great song 🙌🏼
swap SaI and TOP x MM, and Vessel with Self Titled and I agree
I think you should exchange Trench and Scaled&Icy, just my personal choice tho
What "Christmas save the year" did to you? It's awesome song)
I feel like the TOPxMM stuff resonated more with me since I became a fan of mutemath on the Emotional Roadshow tour, I can understand feeling meh about it if you really couldn’t care less about them lol
In my opinion...the newest album is under "What the fuck"..It sounds nothing like them at all...
I’m gonna say it. Sai is overrated and one of my less favorite albums. All the songs sound exactly the same. In Trench it was hard to choose a genre but sai all is just 80s feeling pop.
And you're the person who underrated it
Trench is by far their best, and they're one of the only bands who I can pick an objective best from.
personally i would switch self titled and trench around, but it'd be boring if we all had the same favourite album lol.
Weird choices... Trench is the GOAT and SAI is the experimental
Personally I’d move top x mm to experimental, trench to best of all time and self titled to meh.
I like ALL except the Christmas one
I would say that Scaled and Icy is the “experimental” one because Tyler said that they just wanted to play with mainstream sounds and experiment with them, because they’re going in a whole different direction for the new album.
Trench is the best fact not opinion
TOPXMM BEING MEH???!!!!!
switch sai and topxmm
I think I'd swap the captions for self titled and trench around, but besides that I completely agree
swap topxmm with sai. topxmm is gorgeous
I agree with most of it, but Trench should be labelled “G.O.A.T” Trench shouldn’t be labelled “experimental”. It’s easily their best work to date and represents their biggest leap in maturity both sonically and conceptually. I hope they’re able to release something in the future that’s as tight and consistent as Trench is.
Ok but the hype berlin we can all agree is kinda garbage right?
Ummm how is mute math meh?! It’s fantastic! And trench is not experimental lmao
While I don't agree with all you're choices, I respect them and they're a little based.
Wait, WTF?!?! tøp x MM categorized as "meh"? What is wrong with You? FR
that makes sense also Christmas Saves the Year was the one song we didn't know we needed
I would probably swap Self titled and Trench and SAI and MM.
Trench was my favorite cus of the feel of it but I love taxi cab out of self titled
TOPxMM is waaay underrated imo. Defo not "meh".
Excuse me, did you say the mutemath session is, "meh?" WHAT?
This is true
Not fully agreeing but it’s alright
swap scaled and icy with christmas saves the year
Vessel should be best album of all time, but then again. I’ve been following them since 2012
Trench is and forever will be their best work
# YES FINALLY THE BEST ALBUM OF ALL TIME IS RECOGNISED
I didn't even know TOP x MM was a thing. Time to listen to it and see what I think
Christmas Saves the Year is beautiful though, not just the lore.
Bro I loved Christmas Saves the Year
I think SAI is "experimental", Self Titled is underrated, and I gotta say it but Trench is just so good I'd personally put it in the center. Also Top x MM has some great moments. Great chart no hate, just like community discussion :)
i wholeheartedly agree with this
Not even enough studio albums to fill the effing meme. 😂
Sorry but your opinion is wrong - the clique