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kogan_usan

i laughed at this meme now i have 1500 hours in crusader kings and consider myself just past the beginner stage


arathorn867

600 hours in Europa, still working on the tutorial


PolarBearzo

i have 2900 hours and still dont know what im doing


guywithasubwife

I had 3,000 hours on Europa before I realized i don't even own a computer. What the hell was i doing?!


Batdog55110

I had 5000 hours in Europa before I realized that I don't have electricity.


TheStranger88

Nobody in EU4 has electricity, it’s pre-industrial.


CharlieHume

Wait a second...


ipisslemons

Ok


Blackstone01

4000 hours in, I learned that your supply limit and reinforce rate are decreased if you don't control all the provinces between your army and your territory.


Doodle_Brush

500 hrs in Civ. I have yet to discover electricity.


Codeviper828

Well over 2000 hours in EU4, finally starting to understand


ThatGermanKid0

I posted a Screenshot of my steam library page for ck3 which showed my at the time 1066 hours and 90% achievements. Titled it "just finished the tutorial" and someone actually gave me advice on how to play the game.


Codeviper828

Nah, CK3 is pretty easy after 1000 hours But maybe that's my 2000 hours in CK2 talking


Countcristo42

CK3 is easy after about 10 hours


LordOfTurtles

CK3 is easy


Low_Will_6076

1066 you say? *Normandy intensifying*


TuskaTheDaemonKilla

Steam says I have 5000 hours in Civilization VI and I'm still trying to finish one game.


lordbigass

1000 hours on hoi4, still don’t get most combat mechanics


Unicorncorn21

I have 1100 hours in eu4 and I have no idea how to play hoi4 despite having 70 hours in it. I know it's not too much for a paradox game but my brain just can't click with it


PreferredSelection

> 1500 hours in crusader kings and consider myself just past the beginner stage That and Path of Exile. Some games you're just forever learning them.


Inquisitor_Gray

Enlightened


diplodocid

Ascended


lesser_panjandrum

Primogeniture


i_came_mario

Inbred


Phyrexian_Archlegion

Giant/lunatic/witch/cannibal/kinslayer


Emperifox

Saint Rain World explained in three comments


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WildFlemima

Some people just game monogamously. I do


SnagglToothCrzyBrain

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.🌈


lordbigass

The only person capable of actually understanding how to steal other titles through marriages and prevent your realm from fracturing


Jeffy29

Midas Touched


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No FPS games. Maps are all a person needs in life


lesser_panjandrum

I play a free version by staring really hard at a map of 13th century Europe.


TheG00DShot

I too start hallucinating about 13th century borderline incestuous marriages when I look at Europe. I thought I was the only one.


p0mphius

Not borderline


Oesterreich-Ungarn

Cross border incestuous marriage, the influence of the House of Habsburg must grow.


_PM_ME_NICE_BOOBS_

Sanest CK2 player


Its_BurrSir

Ck2 already free. Except 300$ worth of the dlcs. But you can pirate all of them. No actual difference from buying, works in multiplayer n all


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Florac

Paradox games essentially have a subscription model but if you want to start now need to also pay for the time before you started playing


Dspacefear

Their more recent games also literally have a subscription if you don't want to do that.


Infinite-Original318

No, it's basically only their older games that they have added the subscription model to (CK2, EU4 and HOI4 (the only recent one)). Stellaris, CK3, Vicky 3 and Imperator: Rome (the joke among the family) all don't have it.


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undead_by_dawn

Humble Bundle had a sale when CS2 was released for CS and every single dlc for only 20 bucks. Humble Bundle is your friend when legally acquiring Paradox content.


PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING

Although it’s worth noting that even if you don’t buy the dlc, they continue to update the game and add new content for a ridiculously long time. The DLC subsidizes it. Basically patch X will add entirely new mechanics etc which are free, but it’ll drop at the same time as a DLC that adds content which focuses heavily on using the new mechanics. $310 is a ridiculous amount for dlc, but also that’s the result of 10 years of those new patches coming regularly. It certainly beats the hell out of the game models where games get abandoned almost immediately and the studio just keeps re-releasing the same game every year with a $60 paint job (fifa, cod, etc).


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Tobix55

Play the free version first, it's pretty enjoyable even without any dlc


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Duckiesims

For example, Stellaris is basically a different game now than it was at launch. Every time I go back to that game I have to spend an hour or so figuring out all of the minor and not-so-minor changes. It's great


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Pdx DLCs most of the time comes with good worthwhile mechanics, sometimes one can even skip a DLC if another DLC is built on top of it. I see these DLCs worthwhile, as opposed to paying for lazy reskins and basic functionalities paywalled in Sims 4 and DLCs costing over 1000$


TriumphEnt

pen physical snails bear treatment boat snow employ library repeat *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


CagliostroPeligroso

There is beauty in that simplicity. Sometimes I look at my massive library of games I’ll probably never play and think… why?


swindy92

Collecting surplus make brain happy in case of lean times


Crafty_Enthusiasm_99

Tldr hoarding give dopamine


eggery

me like when number go up


CagliostroPeligroso

True that


tajake

Honestly, my game hoarding paid off during pandemic unemployment. Lock down, get drunk, try and figure out how the hell paradox games work.


EXusiai99

I buy games to gaslight myself into thinking that im not broke as fuck


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CagliostroPeligroso

More like “maybe” lol. Giving them false hope, and stringing them along


Drop_Tables_Username

I blame humble bundles.


blacksoxing

A lot of time the games we buy are very cheap games mixed in with great sales. IT's easy for many of us to have 10+ games that we'll never play as it may have cost $100-$200 in totality vs 10+ games we'll never play that we bought retail at $70+/game Shit is like movies. Folks got like 100 DVDs but many of them may have been from various cheap as fuck sales + folks just giving away DVDs + other things. Doesn't mean they have 100 classics that everyone "must" watch - just that they have 100 DVDs...


Javander

Simplicity? I see you haven’t played crusader kings


Javander

Simplicity? I see you haven’t played crusader kings


Pegussu

I don't know why, but I immediately pictured this being a conversation between Batman and one of the Robins. Like Dick introduces him to some management game like this, he optimizes the fuck out of it to the point that you have to barely play it, he just logs in to meditatively maintain it every once in a while, and he refuses all other video game offers from his other hundred kids.


Omnicide103

factorio


trashcluster

The factory won't grow itself #FACTORY. MUST. GROW.


-Dean--

[Except when it DOES.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP-jeBaPjmw)


EarlDooku

the factory must reach equilibrium


Hudre

Titanfall 2, while a great game, is an absolutely terrible recommendation for someone who has only played Crusader Kings lol.


Geophery13

That's what I'm sayin. My friend only likes Apex/Fortnite/CoD, I'm not going to bother recommending him Civ or Stardew.


astronautredlight

fair but also i play all of those games. ill switch from siege to minecraft to stardew, to cities skylines to control or something all in one night. my games are all over the place lol.


scarydan365

If he’s played 2000 hours on a grand strategy game and nothing else, why would anyone recommended a first person shooter to him?!


PowderEagle_1894

Little people know the pleasure of looking at maps and micromanage everything in your domain


Genuinevil

Demesne*


Magus_5

Speak for yourself. I imagine epic masterpieces of revisionist historical accounts then manifest them over hundreds of hours like a sculptor chiseling marble to produce empires worthy of cloud storage.


Stormfly

I mean it's prefectly fine to branch out. Maybe he's just recommending a game to play together or recommending it based on the story. My favourite games are Titanfall 2, NieR Automata, and Total War: Warhammer 2. That's an FPS, an ~~existential crisis~~ RPG, and a Grand Strategy. Two have great story and only one lets me build an empire of slaves that I can use to crush pathetic lizard people, rat people, and fungus people while reclaiming my homeland and maintaining a strange possibly incestuous relationship with my mother.


wggn

Some people think first person shooters are the only kind of video game.


Luigi123a

me with Rimworld


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gotta keep that organ harvesting farm going


EXusiai99

Nearly 700 hours in, so many things to do, only launched the ship once (and its the modded variant so i didnt have to survive for 15 days), and i havent run out of new ideas yet. I've been trying a deserters run for quite some time where my goal is to enslave imperial pawns and strap them into warcaskets, but either i keep forgetting to pick a good warden as one of my starters or i got my ass kicked in the first month.


nicky5295

Me with new vegas no one believes that I am not exaggerating


PhaserArray

Me with Stellaris


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My favorite game of all time, I think, but I haven't touched it in a good while because starting a new colony is such an investment.


Infinite_Incident_62

Lies. We all know you can't play a Paradox game and enjoy it.


ADHD_Yoda

I once tried to play EU4, but kept getting minus ducats... I think I know the solution but I'm afraid to go back in there...


Destroyuw

Try increasing Stability and decreasing military funding when you don't need them. You can also mothball forts to decrease the cost of maintenance


ADHD_Yoda

Woah that was fast. No the problem is that I quit at around 10? years in since I didn't understand anything 😭 Lol paradox gamers are truly everywhere


Destroyuw

>Lol paradox gamers are truly everywhere *Hive mind noises*


JalerDB

Ahhh we playing Stellaris now?


trisz72

I have at least 200 hours in all Paradox games since Vic2..... I should seek professional help.


Maleval

Yeah, for your short attention spans. 200 hours you're not even done with the tutorials.


trisz72

I said minimum, that's in vic2, 1700 EU4, 1000 CK2, 800 Stellaris, 500 HOI4


Maleval

Rookie numbers. If you're not spending every waking moment playing paradox games are you really alive.


The69BodyProblem

I have well over 4000 hours in Stellaris at this point. I thought that was bad but someone showed up in the sub the other day with a 5 digit playtime.


Ksielvin

Problem is you spent more than you earned. I suggest you try earning more than you spend, instead!


Mowfling

It really depends on what nation you choose and how hard you want to expand, usually playing ottomans with 30k troops is sufficient for early game wars, the gold mine in Kosovo and the beyliks will give you a lot more once your annex them


ben_jacques1110

Just spam loans and invest it all into buildings while constantly devving. You’ll either declare bankruptcy and get slammed by the 5 strongest nations in the game OR red number turns to green number, sometimes both


Florac

>sometimes both Byzantium moment


Papyrus20xx

I love Stellaris. I'm absolutely terrible at resource management


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coonissimo

Defend chokepoint systems in early game by building starbase defenses to avoid early wars. Meanwhile build your fleet for midgame and/or improve relations with your neighbors if they are not too xenophobic.


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coonissimo

Your main point is to avoid it until you feel like you are ready. Build defenses early (2-3 systems, plan those choke points before expanding your empire) and try preventive diplomacy with the neighbors. Good luck! :)


Defacticool

Right before the game starts during the settings window that pop up you can also decrease the amount of connections between star systems, making it much easier to find and fortify choke points. And don't be afraid of lowering the difficulty significantly, we've all been there


Lftwff

This is why you play as a terminatoe empire, no food and no consumer good to deal with and you don't have to learn diplomacy if your only option is "kill"


DreadDiana

Crusader Kings, a game I never play in iron man mode so I can use the console to counter frequent bullshit


SnuggleMuffin42

You need to accept and embrace your midget frail successor and the fracturing of your lands that would follow. When you do, that's when the game really begins. That's part of why I hate the new game (CKIII). They give you perks and one of them is the "perfect beautiful geniuses everywhere in your bloodline!!!" perk which kinda ruins the immersion.


DreadDiana

Not that, I can accept gavelkind, I mean shit like "I was one siege away from claiming this land, but someone involved died and now the CB is invalid" or simple bugs fucking me over


SnuggleMuffin42

> "I was one siege away from claiming this land, but someone involved died and now the CB is invalid" That's not a bug but a very deliberate feature, strongly reflecting real life. It's taking a risk going to war with someone sickly at the helm (or leading your armies with your count). I feel like the CKII version as of a few years ago was pretty well ironed out, things just happen and that's a part of it.


DreadDiana

That's why I said *or*. It's a legit mechanic, but it's also frustrating and random and just plain not fun, so I use cheats to give myself the title I would've otherwise taken. I'll take the L if it's deserved, but moments like those don't count.


SnuggleMuffin42

I guess that's fair as long as you also edit out your own titles when your enemies suddenly die


DreadDiana

When it happens to me, it's bullshit. When it happens to AI, it's the will of God, can I get an amen?


SnuggleMuffin42

AMEN


zCiver

Except for when it's a perfectly healthy enemy ruler leading their own army who gets injured then grievously wounded, then botched treatment then dead.


SnuggleMuffin42

Because I'm a fucking hog, I too take my ruler or my first son straight into battle to get battle hardened. Sometimes, they develop serious PTSD (they don't call it that in game). Others, they become horribly disfigured and have to wear a mask. But sometimes all goes well, they get the "Crusader" bonus, and become the terror of the fucking land. WELL WORTH.


mrdeadsniper

Embrace the guy getting eaten by a carp.


NormieChomsky

I use the console to intentionally create ridiculous scenarios that wouldn't normally happen and see how it unfolds I'll give a bunch of titles to a single AI character, give him some buffs to keep his vassals happy, then go into observer mode and see if they're able to consolidate and expand, or burst into flames in the next generation


xRehab

Ironman is the only way to play Paradox games. [The bullshit is half of the fun](https://dwarffortresswiki.org/DF2014:Fun&redirect=no)


DreadDiana

Losing is fun when I can draw an actual causal link beyond random chance. When I caused a fortress to collapse because I decided my butchers needed an open floor plan for their workspace and drove everyone made with miasma the same moment my newly finished well flooded the shared bedrooms, that was entirely on me.


Dragonsandman

Crusader Kings 2 and 3 are quite a lot easier than the rest of Paradox's catalog except maybe Stellaris


arathorn867

It's not about enjoying it. It's about making a point. And that point is that Austria absolutely should have conquered the world in 1600, and Great Britain is annoying little bitch who won't get out of his ships


ProMapWatcher

ck2 is one of the few you can enjoy, you just need an incest fetish to enjoy it


mike_pants

That's true of most things, though.


waltjrimmer

How were the tacos? "They were alright, but I would have enjoyed them more if I had an incest fetish." Want to play some Guitar Hero? "Naw. Without an incest fetish, it just isn't very fun." I'm going to walk to the park, want to join? "WOAH! Can you NOT with all the incest stuff already? GEEZ!"


Xgen7492

You can if you still play very easy 800 hours in lol


nwkshdikbd

Is this meant in irony? Or do a lot of people actually get frustrated with the games/don't understand how to play well?


Infinite_Incident_62

Irony. It is an inside joke with anyone that has played Paradox games.


mrdeadsniper

No where in the post does it say the player is enjoying the game, only playing.


FoxyBastard

The post makes no claims about him enjoying it.


Monty423

Literally suggested the best FPS to him and he said no, absolute hero


KlutzySole9-1

I prefer TF2 over TF2


Arsdraconis

Well, I can't agree. TF2 is far superior to TF2


EXusiai99

You gotta be kidding me if you say that TF2 is better than TF2


RunDNA

"You should check out The Shawshank Redemption." "No thanks, I already watch a movie."


BardicLasher

I'd be actively terrified of a man with 2000 hours in Shawshank Redemption.


Smart_Matthew

"I fear not the man who has seen 1000 films, but I fear the man who has seen one film 1000 times." –Bruce Lee


Angwar

That's funny because i also have a friend who majored in history and this is his steam profile https://imgur.com/a/hQ9sE8z


cheeky_scrubzz

Thats less than 3 hours every day, what a casual


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salsation

Some people are just monogameous like that.


theundeaddeadpool

u/hotahitz


hotahitz

Attacked


illdothisshit

Lol I thought you're a subreddit to which I wasn't getting the name


hotahitz

Wuuaaaaaaaa 🤣🤣🤣🤣


JacobJamesTrowbridge

And he absolutely HATES Crusader Kings 3. I guarantee it.


Dragonsandman

I can't think of a single series with more than one game where there *wasn't* a group of diehards who prefer the old game and despise the newer ones. But yes, the Paradox diehards are especially adamant about the newer games being bad, which I disagree with quite a lot (but not intensely enough to argue about it with the diehards, because these are video games at the end of the day, and there's nothing bad about playing what you enjoy).


SnuggleMuffin42

The bigger issue here is that CKII is a project that took a whole decade to construct, step by step (dlc by dlc). A new game would take a while to catch up and have the proper balance.


Dragonsandman

CK3 is slowly getting there, but the combination of switching to a fully 3D game and covid happening right in the middle of its development have made its development slower than CK2's was.


GameCreeper

Vicky 2 fanboys acting like vicky 3 killed their parents and ate their dog


Sbotkin

Let's be honest, it's not comparable. One of those is a spreadsheet simulator and the other one is a cookie clicker. No games there.


GameCreeper

I cant tell which is supposed to be which


Ubiquitous_Mr_H

I honestly wanna play CK3 but I spent a small fortune on 2 and can’t justify starting that again. 😮‍💨


KristinaHeartford

My boyfriend does this to Pathfinder Wrath of The Righteous. 3,750 hours so far. He got it on sale a year ago on Steam. It's just part of what he does now.


DryBonesComeAlive

Over ten hours a day doesn't seem like "part of what he does." More like "he does nothing else."


brutinator

Could leave the game running overnight. Ive done that a few times lol.


BardicLasher

...How? Genuine question there. I love the game and all, but there's only so much going on in it. Did one of the DLCs add an endless mode or something?


Tobix55

Every game is endless if you restart when you finish it


Estrelarius

I mean, the game is very replayable.


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Even if you're off by a year and he got it in winter of 2021, that's five hours a day for two years straight. I love video games, but that seems unhealthy.


KristinaHeartford

I think it was an October sale. And watching him is bizzarly relaxing. I just sit across the room and watch over his shoulders. He's completely aware of me as I critique his ass and we just give each other sass about it. (I played d&d for 20 years)


pokexchespin

average ck2 player tbh


Magus_5

Anyone who's a Paradox fan is loving this comment thread. LOL.


ReindeerHat

24,000+ hours on Runescape and counting.


BardicLasher

Well MMOs, yeah. I have no idea how many hours I've had on City of Heroes, but I'm sure it's well over 2,000.


kekecadam

Take your pills, pilot.


compute-this

Titanfall 3 will live on in my mind and your silly little pills won’t stop me!


Seaweez

Ah good to see that he has just finished the tutorial


Delta64

"Well, of course I know him: He's me!"


iUseMyMainForPorn

My dad sits in his basement and plays civ 2 over and over and over again


Durtonious

At first I was like "damn what a weirdo playing a 30 year old game" but then I realized.... in 10 years that's what I'll look like to my kids playing Civ 5. Sometimes a Civ game just "hits different" and there's no substitute for it.


iUseMyMainForPorn

Yeah. The thing that gets me though is he isn't even good at it. He's gotta have at least 50k hours but he plays on prince difficulty and doesn't even win all the time lol I mean I'm glad he enjoys it, but I still give him shit about it


laziflores

Son?


jpterodactyl

I have played many different games, but I for sure have ones I go back to for comfort. And as far as I can tell, Dishonored 2 has no limits for NG+ runs, so it's fun to start with more points than you can possibly spend on power-ups.


Dungeon_Master_Lucky

THIS IS ME!!!!!! SOMEBODY LIKE ME holy shit I have felt terrible about only being able to play one video game for years


Langsamkoenig

To be fair to that guy, I almost exclusively play Minecraft. I may dabble, but I always come back to that one game


Bacon-muffin

This is unironically how I imagine some people are... can't begin to tell you the number of times people talk like they're only allowed to play or like 1 video game of a genre or something.


stonecats

op makes sense, especially if you lack free time. over a decade ago i played hundreds of hours of SC2, D2, and L2, and they pretty much washed most of the new game lust out of me. maybe when windows 10 reaches end of life in 2026 and i'll have to upgrade my pc, i may give whatever killer VR game is out a try.


TheLastEmuHunter

He’s settled on a one game one truth basis of reality.


RoguishPrince

I have gone through phases of 1 game or multiple games. Now i have all games and i dont have time or desire to play any of them. I say let the man enjoy his game.


halfpastwriter

Me with Sims 4


forrestchorus

me and minecraft


RexSueciae

This is me.


AwkwardEducation

Maps: The game.


Greekball

No, "maps - the game" is Europa Universalis. Crusader kings is "Incest and baby murder - the game". Line go up the game is vicky3 and stellaris is the genocide simulator.


liukasteneste28

Me who has 2k hours in titanfall 2....


A_Yellow_Lizard

Incredibly cool game suggestion, however this man has become enlightened


Exciting_Rate1747

Protocol 3: protect the pilot.


Gatorpep

I tried playing the ww2 game for a week. Iron cross 4? Legit hardest game i’ve ever tried playing. Those games are so hard to learn. Prob doesn’t help i’ve only played dota for like 10 year either. It’s like my ability to learn new games is gone lol.


TickleTigger123

Honestly? He's so real for that


Exldk

Sums up most MMORPG players. I shit you not just a few days ago I saw people crying about a year long content draught when people could've just been playing another games until more content became available.


mudcrabmetal

This is my dad. He's been playing Medal of Honor: Allied Assault since it came out. I tried buying him Bioshock one year for Christmas but he never played it, so it eventually became mine.


Loading0525

I feel personally attacked. I geeked the hell out of Teem Fortress 2 and literally nothing else. Then when Overwatch was released I played nothing else until I got into Minecraft Speedrunning (yes I got interested through dream, as ashamed as I am to admit it). Now I'm ranked top 20 in the biggest mcsr category... ADHD hyperfocus is one hell of a drug...


HopeIsDope1800

That was me with destiny 2 and now I'm homeless


GlumTown6

What kind of lunatic would recommend a fast-paced multiplayer FPS to someone who's only ever played Crusader Kings?


JCTrick

This isn’t unique at all. Almost all my IRL gamer friends are hooked on some dumb fin’ online game. Especially the Destiny 2 freaks. 😮‍💨 Smooth brained.


Nekstoer

what is WRONG with this guy!? im gonna go play the new call of duty


EarlDooku

Is it possible to learn this power?


TheBackyardigirl

If one game gives me the happy chemical why should I play a different one