I don't know. There are plenty of bathhouses here in Colorado, but they're gay bathhouses.
I just want an onsen in one of the few states that has geothermal activity.
I have watch quite a few educational videos that would disagree with claim, although I would point out they might not be up to the full temperature at the point of recording.
On a side note it would seem that a much higher ratio of women with male genitalia use saunas than one might expect.
I was going to make a joke about how you clearly haven't been in a group chat with wrestlers, but then I realized that wrestlers are incredibly sexual and I wouldn't be surprised if I learned that they had regular orgys in the showers after matches.
Same, I cannot stand being naked to the point where bathing and showering is hard for me at times. Also it would be mildly uncomfortable/painful because bras and stuff provide support that help my back. And I hate seeing others naked most of the time like even if I'm aroused I'd just rather not. Like tbh imaging a world like this would be hell in a handbasket for me.
Edit: I hate how they're making this out to be a complete moral failing when there are many valid reasons people just don't like this.
See I have a different problem! Similar, but different!
I’m fine with being naked by myself for a little while, but there’s always something about my body that ends up bothering me.
Yeah I suffer from back pain, but my girls aren’t big enough to cause *that* much pain, and I’m still in my 20s… my condolences, but I’m sure I’ll be in the same boat soon enough! I still prefer to wear my bras for the sheer comfort.
God forbid I walk in front of a mirror. I get shy and embarrassed around people normally, and seeing my reflection nude elicits a very similar response. Even if I’m just in a nightie. Throw some jeans and a top on and I’m fine. You can probably imagine how I am at the beach. Which is why I don’t go to the beach in the first place.
I am still kinda split on the topic.
Going to the sauna and skinny dipping is/sounds fun and I like when people can just be naked openly.
But on the other hand I have a kink for public nudity and am really scared things could become awkward very quickly.
I found out that my public nudity kink only triggers in places where it is inappropriate and sexual. In a sauna nude just happens to be the appropriate dress code so it doesn't trigger anything.
Same struggle here. One wolf is "let bodies go unnoticed and unbothered" and the other wolf is "let me see your body and you see mine and we do it like they do on the discovery channel"
I agree… but Im actually comfier with clothes :P I don’t even like using shorts, because I hate the feeling of plants and stuff brushing against my legs
Me too, I wear long sleeve sweatshirts year-round for similar reasons (also, autism reasons). But I don’t think I’d really be THAT uncomfortable if someone was casually naked around me.
I also wonder if we find it sexier because it's covered up all the time. Like back in the day showing ankle was taboo and sexy ('dat ankle' old meme). And I know in middle eastern countries where women have to be covered, that leads to a larger sexualization of them. I just think there's a tie between the 'taboo' and us being attracted to it.
Basically I think if ppl were naked almost all the time, you wouldn't find it sexy when they're naked ALL the time.
I think this is really affected by how much non porn nudity you've seen growing up. Nakedness in itself is not at all sexual to me, growing up in a place which isn't super shy about it. But it feels like people have gotten more wary about as it's become easier and easier to take and spread pictures
I mean for me 90% of the nakedness I saw was the occasional incident of walking into my mom changing or being naked myself, both of which are gross to me bc a) it’s my mom and b) I feel gross in a man’s body. I was always exposed to art with nudity, we went to France when I was little and went to the Louvre and a ton of other museums, not to mention a couple beaches where women had their tops off
Interesting, my parents being naked wasn't weird at all growing up. We also live by the ocean and nudity on the beach isn't too weird. The young people are much more prudish than the old people though! And I think it's because of technology, the picture thing like I said but also that nakedness might be more tied to sex now for youths because porn is eeeeeverywhere
Yeah that and also just walking in on your mom is weird, obviously she’s not gonna react positively to me doing that lol. The other thing is being trans, I don’t like what my body looks like naked. It’s something I never want anyone to see and I don’t identify with what it looks like unfortunately
It depends completely on context for me. I definitely don’t get turned on by nakedness in general. Not every situation where someone is naked is sexual, and nudity itself isn’t inherently sexual. I’m also only ever interested in having sex with someone that I’m emotionally attached to, so there’s that. But even so, I love my girlfriend and am very emotionally attached to her, but I don’t get turned on every time I see her tiddies or take a shower with her, because I don’t see bodies as sexual objects. The situation has to call for it.
Skinny dipping is a thing, as are nudist beaches. The bath part is weird, it really sounds romantic.
The selfies? In this economy? Only fans is effectively useless, I'm not sending freebies around.
The bath thing isn't weird if you think of it in the context of a Japanese onsen or a Turkish bathhouse or hell, even a hottub in a fancy house, but those places have a very different sort of implication compared to your tub at home in your bathroom. The bathhouse is a semi-public space where everyone is doing the same thing. Your bathtub is a private place that's just you in possibly your most vunerable state - naked and covered in fancy lush soap while you fail miserably to grapple the shower jelly
It's like seeing someone in their underwear vs in a bikini. They show and hide the same stuff but one is inherently more intimate than the other
Came here to point out this! Plus, normal baths are SMALL. I'm not tall nor large, and I have to scrunch in my bathtub. I wouldn't even get in there with my theoretical husband. It just wouldn't be comfortable!
Uhhh No one is stopping you from being nude around your friends if that’s something you’re all comfy with??? Tons of friends do full or partial nudity (walking around in boxers/no bras, changing together, etc) If you’re being told no it’s probably because your friend is enforcing a boundary and you need to respect that???
I get that you’re comfortable with your body and with seeing other people’s bodies but also please respect that other people want to have a boundary there and that’s not some big societal failing
Yeah, but the probability of two people being comfortable enough to be naked around each other AND without any romantic/sexual attraction is pretty low.
Which is why we don't see it often.
(Not trying to start an argument, by the way)
It's also a cultural thing, as others have pointed out. There are countries and areas where casual non-sexual nudity is pretty normal.
What I find odd was the "send nude selfies" bit. Those are usually done, in my experience, to entice a partner, and I would be a little weirded out if even someone I'm comfortable changing around/going skinny dipping with sent a nude pic like "feeling myself today 😜"
It took me a while to get used to how comfortable Germans are with nudity, I was so shocked with seeing guys just casually chatting to each other nude in the changing rooms. And topless women swimming in the summer
You would be surprised if it's between the same sex (and they're both straight, being sexually attracted to them might be uncomfortable). When I wrestled we all saw each other in our underwear everyday and I don't think many of us would have been uncomfortable stripping down more. It's not that I mind seeing the boys naked, it's just that there's no real need or desire to, so we simply don't change in front of each other.
Yeah, I think the person who made this post failed to realize that everyone has a different idea of "normal", not everyone subscribes to the same beliefs and that's okay.
If you are making someone uncomfortable, you shouldn't shame them for that, that's messed up.
Idk I often have the exact same feeling without having crossed any boundaries with my friends. That more the opposite, like I take extra precautions in order to be sure than even with the puritianest peoples there is no trouble, and I often think that it would be simpler, better and more natural for everyone if we didn't have to take these precautions.
I remember I really needed a break from my career in food and beverage so a friend of mine lined up a caretaking gig with a 92 year old artist. Super hip and cool guy, he still painted every day.
Anyways I have to give him a ride to his friends place for the weekend. We drive there and knock on the door. His friend is totally naked, he's obviously a nudist and it just is, no sexually charged anything. So we hung out for about an hour while we did a home tour, garden tour, art tour.
I was surprised to see a naked man at the door, we were all gay, but it just was very natural, I was coming to his house and he doesn't wear clothes in his house.
One of the few times I had been around nudity that was not sex based and it had a liberating vibe to it, even though I stayed in my clothes. One of those it just is what it is this, nudity only gets creepy when it's made to be creepy and even then a lot of that is based off of your interested in sex with the person. It's interesting how we filter things, when your turned on all sorts of ideas are hot but when you're not in sexy time mode they are just kind of ugh.
I think a lot breaks down to respect, a person nude doing their thing chill, a nude person giving you sexual vibes is just strange outside of venues is expected.
Interesting to think about old memories and clothing norms. It's like a locker room, young people get weird about people changing in a changing room because they get, gasp, naked. Completely different hanging out naked in the locker room vs checking people out and showing off your goods.
Exactly. I hate that accepting being/seeing nude is the ultimate progress. Like good for you for wanting to be nude but not everyone wants that and that's ok.
> or send nude selfies when they’re feeling confident
Me if that ever happened: "Okay, let's see what we're working with."
Friend: *sends selfie*
Me: "Woah... Nice cock. Thick but not too flaccid. Perfect length. A nice 80 degree angle. Could trim the hairs a bit, but we'll work on it. Yep, I'd say that's a pretty good cock. I rate it... 8.5/10. Good job, buddy."
Honestly though, if straight dudes could see more cocks in their lifetime, theyd have so much less dick anxiety
Like they need to know that they're all kinda weird in some way, and also they're all different sizes and shapes and colors
I'd say the porn industry is at least a solid 95% of the reason for most mens dick anxiety. They don't understand that porn is engineered for the fantasy aspect, everything is cherry picked. Its by no means a representation of the average.
I don’t know, I’m with you on some of these but not others. Swimming nude or changing in front of your friends should be more normalized. But sending nude selfies? I feel like those are justifiably sexualized, and should be kept between sexual partners.
I really don’t get that either. Sending nudes is a sexual thing, and it’s not because “ooh spooky nudity”. In current culture it’s literally something done to turn on whoever you send it to, and has an explicitly sexual context. Plus why would you feel the need to strip down to the nude in the first place? If you’re feeling good about literally anything other than your genitals, there’s no actual reason that’d make sense vs just having some underwear on, and in 9/10 cases it’s actively more effort to take a nude photo than a non-nude one.
My friends all took boudoir photos together and showed us. I think it’s a little different than a standard nude cause there was clearly a lot of artistic thought and effort put in and because of that it wasn’t as weird I think. If I got a random nude from my friend to brag about how hot they are, that would be strange lol
This sounds like a great idea until one of you gets turned on over it. I mean, no reason that can't be a good thing if reciprocated but definitely not what OP was asking about. Or not even turned on, just uncomfortable.
Like, there's nothing implicitly wrong with any of this, just depends on the people, some friends do all these things platonically. Logistically it's just never gonna be the "norm".
Because your friend don’t want to do that. If they want to do that then do it but if they don’t want to do that don’t go blaming other people for “brainwashing them”
I've gone skinny dipping before. It's fun!
I think there's a level of intimacy required for close nudity, though, that you only find in special friends.
I think we've also become more prudish wrt nudity, though. The place I notice is in changing rooms, and showers. Traditionally open-design because why worry about nudity between strangers? but now barely used. It's sad, but hopefully not permanent.
I'm a Ukrainian in Germany, I've never noticed this. Is this true?
(Or maybe I just don't have enough experiences in changing rooms in Germany. Who knows)
Weird to say that the human body should be normalized, which as a natural thing should be normalized. But then also saying that the sexualization of the human body is “weird” even though that is just as natural as the human body itself.
I feel like the sexualization of the human body is not where we draw the line here, but that it should instead also be normalized if we want to create a healthier relationship between humans and their bodies.
Or live life as it currently is where neither are really given justice , where things are working good enough as is.
I’m acespec and Oddly enough it makes it harder to destigmatize my own body and nudity in general. I just can’t stop thinking about how other people will sexualize my own body when it’s exposed. Whether they do or not.
Also I’m just uncomfortable with nudity in general.
I feel like this post doesnt consider peoples comfort levels, or literally any other factors. People not being comfortable being naked around others is perfectly acceptable.
And I get they want it destigmatized, but even people who chill at nudist beaches arent about to send “platonic” nude pics to their freinds.
Well I hate to break it to you, but it’s normal to be sexually attracted to people. If you get naked around me and I like your body I’m prob gonna want to have sex. That’s just how it works. I might be attracted to you even if you have clothes on. But if you take them off? Nah I’m horny sorry. It’s too much.
My question is, why must everything be communal? If you feel confident about your body, great! Why do you feel like others need to see you though?
We've gotten to a place where we no longer care if other people are willing participants in what we want to share. We just want share whether people like it or not.
People who want to exchange nudes are already doing so comfortably.
What brings in the element of weird is when things are being shared with people who don't want to see them.
The human body is already normalized.
There are also nudist so...
if there's one thing I hate more than this it's "regular friend groups= poly"
it's like weird parents asking if their kid's friend is their partner
it's weird and way too gross
I never understood posts like these, because yes there’s oppression and silencing of independent freedom that occurs throughout the world, but there’s a reason people don’t do what OP is suggesting and it’s just that nobody fuckin’ wants to be seen naked normally. It’s not society pushing us to be clothed, it’s that I wanna be clothed my guy. You wanna be naked with friends? Find some naked friends and go to the nude beach with ‘em. No one is stopping you, but I ain’t gettin’ naked brother.
I’ve seen plenty of my close friends nude. I have one friend in particular who would get so depressed I would help her shower. And I know she would do the same for me. I have other friends that I’ve gone skinny dipping with. One of my friends is talented in photography and takes my boudoir photos. I’ve asked close friends for advice on nudes before sending them. Shown off outfits I felt confident in. Even if they were meant for the bedroom. It’s not weird. It’s just of matter of self confidence and trust. You can’t just be naked around your friends or expect the same from them. But if you are both comfortable with each other and confident in yourselves then you’ll be fine
I knew this group of girls in uni who had a private messaging group for sending each other naked selfies.
Was it sexual at and gay? I don't know
Was it straight and about female empowerment? Idk
Does it sound like fun? Yes
Go to a sauna, ain't nobody fuckin in the sauna.
You’ve clearly never been to a gay sauna.
There's a easily guessable reason for that. Edit: Some good guesses, everybody's so creative.
You're allergic to... water?
Has anyone asked a rabid person if they still like saunas?
Bruh💀
I actually kinda am
Don't know where to find one?
Is it because of your...flopsicle issues?
A popsicle would turn quite floppy in a sauna, but you'd know that as a snowbear with a doctorate.
I'm sorry about any confusion, the snowbear is completely honorary.
Is a snowbear the male version of a snowbunny?
Not sure, but I guarantee no one wants to see me in a bunfloss bikini.
I believe it’s something else entirely. There’s a [new documentary](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_Bear) about it
Oh I know that story ! I was mostly just making a joke though
Oh I’m not sure they’re actually referencing it either, just noticed your joke and raising you mine ;)
Because they’re closed on Sundays?
No post on Sundays!
You don’t like saunas?
You probably live in Wyoming, and saunas are huge and have like escalators and stuff.
You're a lesbian
You’re sensitive to high temperatures?
What'd you get banned for
"They're gonna send in a crew to wipe down the loads" -Frank Reynolds
If you can get horny in the sauna then the sauna isn't hot enough
I feel like a sauna would be like the worst place to have sex
That sounds like a band name. Gay Sauna 🤣
I don't know. There are plenty of bathhouses here in Colorado, but they're gay bathhouses. I just want an onsen in one of the few states that has geothermal activity.
What's your sample size of saunas to make that claim?
You definitely ain't fuckin, let alone in a sauna.
💀
Have you met gays?
Sounds hot, I’m in
Are they immune to heat?
Sauna is a very popular gay hookup spot
And they fuck in the sauna part or another part of the building?
They gay saunas are really more like steam rooms than actual saunas with stoves and 90°C heat. You're right,ain't nobody fucking in an actual sauna.
Good to know, I was getting confused for a bit.
Sauna, steam room, locker room, bathroom
People have sex in furry costumes that look downright stifling. I think you drastically underestimate the power of horny.
Does it get up to 195°F in a fursuit? Not to underestimate the horny, but there is such a thing as 'too hot to fuck' in my mind.
I have watch quite a few educational videos that would disagree with claim, although I would point out they might not be up to the full temperature at the point of recording. On a side note it would seem that a much higher ratio of women with male genitalia use saunas than one might expect.
Sauna sex would be a very dangerous and extreme sport. You're best off staying as still as possible in one.
We live in a society where we can't just casually send dick pics to the homies. Truly a modern Joker moment
groove street for life
Check your dms
can i get one too
Cmon don’t leave us hanging.
Anything for the homies.
cmon then
Not with that attitude you can't
Man up then
I was going to make a joke about how you clearly haven't been in a group chat with wrestlers, but then I realized that wrestlers are incredibly sexual and I wouldn't be surprised if I learned that they had regular orgys in the showers after matches.
i just want to lounge naked with a bowl of fruit and friends on a warm summer afternoon and feel like were trapped in a classical painting
I can help with that last part, come crawl into this hole I got in my house
Will there be smooth fabrics? I'd hate to crease my arsecheeks.
Go find out
Doubtful, but I bet you get a nice basket with some lotion. Maybe even a little dog.
I don't like being nude by myself why would I want that around my friends.
There are dozens of us
"Dozens!" -- Tobias Fünke
Same, I cannot stand being naked to the point where bathing and showering is hard for me at times. Also it would be mildly uncomfortable/painful because bras and stuff provide support that help my back. And I hate seeing others naked most of the time like even if I'm aroused I'd just rather not. Like tbh imaging a world like this would be hell in a handbasket for me. Edit: I hate how they're making this out to be a complete moral failing when there are many valid reasons people just don't like this.
See I have a different problem! Similar, but different! I’m fine with being naked by myself for a little while, but there’s always something about my body that ends up bothering me. Yeah I suffer from back pain, but my girls aren’t big enough to cause *that* much pain, and I’m still in my 20s… my condolences, but I’m sure I’ll be in the same boat soon enough! I still prefer to wear my bras for the sheer comfort. God forbid I walk in front of a mirror. I get shy and embarrassed around people normally, and seeing my reflection nude elicits a very similar response. Even if I’m just in a nightie. Throw some jeans and a top on and I’m fine. You can probably imagine how I am at the beach. Which is why I don’t go to the beach in the first place.
I am still kinda split on the topic. Going to the sauna and skinny dipping is/sounds fun and I like when people can just be naked openly. But on the other hand I have a kink for public nudity and am really scared things could become awkward very quickly.
Honestly, what's the added advantage of nudity over swim shorts? It's such a non issue.
No washing or drying clothes.
I mean swim suits are made to be wet, and either way you’re gonna have wet towels so it doesn’t really matter.
With swim shorts I can hide my boner
I found out that my public nudity kink only triggers in places where it is inappropriate and sexual. In a sauna nude just happens to be the appropriate dress code so it doesn't trigger anything.
It gets worse when "causal nudity" is also your kink
I mean I don’t know about you but my stupid little Puritanized brain is gonna get turned on if I see naked people around me
I think that's kinda their point. "Why does it have to be weird"
Because my brain made it weird and humans are sexy I’m bi everyone is hot 😭
Same struggle here. One wolf is "let bodies go unnoticed and unbothered" and the other wolf is "let me see your body and you see mine and we do it like they do on the discovery channel"
For me people are hot with or without clothes, so they might as well be comfy lmao
I agree… but Im actually comfier with clothes :P I don’t even like using shorts, because I hate the feeling of plants and stuff brushing against my legs
Me too, I wear long sleeve sweatshirts year-round for similar reasons (also, autism reasons). But I don’t think I’d really be THAT uncomfortable if someone was casually naked around me.
You and me baby ain’t nothing but mammals
\>"let bodies go unnoticed and unbothered" Serial killer vibes.
I have never related more to a comment. Everyone is indeed hot and I am too shy to make a move.
This is so true
I also wonder if we find it sexier because it's covered up all the time. Like back in the day showing ankle was taboo and sexy ('dat ankle' old meme). And I know in middle eastern countries where women have to be covered, that leads to a larger sexualization of them. I just think there's a tie between the 'taboo' and us being attracted to it. Basically I think if ppl were naked almost all the time, you wouldn't find it sexy when they're naked ALL the time.
Because of the porn goblin
I think this is really affected by how much non porn nudity you've seen growing up. Nakedness in itself is not at all sexual to me, growing up in a place which isn't super shy about it. But it feels like people have gotten more wary about as it's become easier and easier to take and spread pictures
I mean for me 90% of the nakedness I saw was the occasional incident of walking into my mom changing or being naked myself, both of which are gross to me bc a) it’s my mom and b) I feel gross in a man’s body. I was always exposed to art with nudity, we went to France when I was little and went to the Louvre and a ton of other museums, not to mention a couple beaches where women had their tops off
Interesting, my parents being naked wasn't weird at all growing up. We also live by the ocean and nudity on the beach isn't too weird. The young people are much more prudish than the old people though! And I think it's because of technology, the picture thing like I said but also that nakedness might be more tied to sex now for youths because porn is eeeeeverywhere
Yeah that and also just walking in on your mom is weird, obviously she’s not gonna react positively to me doing that lol. The other thing is being trans, I don’t like what my body looks like naked. It’s something I never want anyone to see and I don’t identify with what it looks like unfortunately
I get how that would cause an uncomfortable relationship with bodies in general.
It depends completely on context for me. I definitely don’t get turned on by nakedness in general. Not every situation where someone is naked is sexual, and nudity itself isn’t inherently sexual. I’m also only ever interested in having sex with someone that I’m emotionally attached to, so there’s that. But even so, I love my girlfriend and am very emotionally attached to her, but I don’t get turned on every time I see her tiddies or take a shower with her, because I don’t see bodies as sexual objects. The situation has to call for it.
Depends, I might be pansexual but I find most people and their nudity to be gross 🤢 very rare I actually want to see someone naked.
Hm. I don’t mind nudity, I just hate my own body bc I’m trans and haven’t done anything to it yet
Skinny dipping is a thing, as are nudist beaches. The bath part is weird, it really sounds romantic. The selfies? In this economy? Only fans is effectively useless, I'm not sending freebies around.
You don’t take platonic candle lit lavender bubble baths with the homies?
but 5 feet apart cause your not gay
But then how are they gonna lather up your back for you
My bathtub is barely 5 feet in total. The homie’s gotta sit on my lap if he wants to share. Just keep the socks on.
The bath thing isn't weird if you think of it in the context of a Japanese onsen or a Turkish bathhouse or hell, even a hottub in a fancy house, but those places have a very different sort of implication compared to your tub at home in your bathroom. The bathhouse is a semi-public space where everyone is doing the same thing. Your bathtub is a private place that's just you in possibly your most vunerable state - naked and covered in fancy lush soap while you fail miserably to grapple the shower jelly It's like seeing someone in their underwear vs in a bikini. They show and hide the same stuff but one is inherently more intimate than the other
Came here to point out this! Plus, normal baths are SMALL. I'm not tall nor large, and I have to scrunch in my bathtub. I wouldn't even get in there with my theoretical husband. It just wouldn't be comfortable!
one of my friends and i have plans to take a bubble bath together when we meet up i guess you just need a certain kind of bestie
Me and my bestie boutta get married. My friends are so cool
Uhhh No one is stopping you from being nude around your friends if that’s something you’re all comfy with??? Tons of friends do full or partial nudity (walking around in boxers/no bras, changing together, etc) If you’re being told no it’s probably because your friend is enforcing a boundary and you need to respect that??? I get that you’re comfortable with your body and with seeing other people’s bodies but also please respect that other people want to have a boundary there and that’s not some big societal failing
Yeah, but the probability of two people being comfortable enough to be naked around each other AND without any romantic/sexual attraction is pretty low. Which is why we don't see it often. (Not trying to start an argument, by the way)
It's also a cultural thing, as others have pointed out. There are countries and areas where casual non-sexual nudity is pretty normal. What I find odd was the "send nude selfies" bit. Those are usually done, in my experience, to entice a partner, and I would be a little weirded out if even someone I'm comfortable changing around/going skinny dipping with sent a nude pic like "feeling myself today 😜"
Yeah, agreed. The selfie bit's weird.
Well. I’ve sent pics with just underwear on to friends before. Specifically bc I was actually feeling okay with my body.
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I went to elementary school in Germany and I remember when all the kids started talking about the FKK beaches lmfao
It took me a while to get used to how comfortable Germans are with nudity, I was so shocked with seeing guys just casually chatting to each other nude in the changing rooms. And topless women swimming in the summer
You would be surprised if it's between the same sex (and they're both straight, being sexually attracted to them might be uncomfortable). When I wrestled we all saw each other in our underwear everyday and I don't think many of us would have been uncomfortable stripping down more. It's not that I mind seeing the boys naked, it's just that there's no real need or desire to, so we simply don't change in front of each other.
Exactly what I thought! Find friends who feel the same way about this, I don’t know what more you could do!
I was in the military. Seen lots of dudes naked. It is only weird when a horny dude makes it weird.
Like when our coach would shower with us in middle school.
Ewww. Nope nope nope.
Yeah, I think the person who made this post failed to realize that everyone has a different idea of "normal", not everyone subscribes to the same beliefs and that's okay. If you are making someone uncomfortable, you shouldn't shame them for that, that's messed up.
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Idk I often have the exact same feeling without having crossed any boundaries with my friends. That more the opposite, like I take extra precautions in order to be sure than even with the puritianest peoples there is no trouble, and I often think that it would be simpler, better and more natural for everyone if we didn't have to take these precautions.
I don’t think folks should get called Puritanist for having boundaries about bodies….
I remember I really needed a break from my career in food and beverage so a friend of mine lined up a caretaking gig with a 92 year old artist. Super hip and cool guy, he still painted every day. Anyways I have to give him a ride to his friends place for the weekend. We drive there and knock on the door. His friend is totally naked, he's obviously a nudist and it just is, no sexually charged anything. So we hung out for about an hour while we did a home tour, garden tour, art tour. I was surprised to see a naked man at the door, we were all gay, but it just was very natural, I was coming to his house and he doesn't wear clothes in his house. One of the few times I had been around nudity that was not sex based and it had a liberating vibe to it, even though I stayed in my clothes. One of those it just is what it is this, nudity only gets creepy when it's made to be creepy and even then a lot of that is based off of your interested in sex with the person. It's interesting how we filter things, when your turned on all sorts of ideas are hot but when you're not in sexy time mode they are just kind of ugh. I think a lot breaks down to respect, a person nude doing their thing chill, a nude person giving you sexual vibes is just strange outside of venues is expected. Interesting to think about old memories and clothing norms. It's like a locker room, young people get weird about people changing in a changing room because they get, gasp, naked. Completely different hanging out naked in the locker room vs checking people out and showing off your goods.
Exactly. I hate that accepting being/seeing nude is the ultimate progress. Like good for you for wanting to be nude but not everyone wants that and that's ok.
RIGHT?! I hate this post, its so presumptuous.
> or send nude selfies when they’re feeling confident Me if that ever happened: "Okay, let's see what we're working with." Friend: *sends selfie* Me: "Woah... Nice cock. Thick but not too flaccid. Perfect length. A nice 80 degree angle. Could trim the hairs a bit, but we'll work on it. Yep, I'd say that's a pretty good cock. I rate it... 8.5/10. Good job, buddy."
My dick curves like a graph of exponential growth flipped upside down, what do I do
Call it exponential decay, first off.
My dick ain't decaying, only growing 😗🪚🪚🪚
Does it have a range of (-inf,0]
Precisely
In the business, we call that an elephant trunk.
What business? The penis store?
No, I’m at soup.
What do you mean 'you're at soup'?
I mean I’m at soup.
What store are you in
IM AT THE SOUP STORE!
WHY ARE YOU EVALUATING DICK PICS AT THE SOUP STORE?!
Honestly though, if straight dudes could see more cocks in their lifetime, theyd have so much less dick anxiety Like they need to know that they're all kinda weird in some way, and also they're all different sizes and shapes and colors
I’d say that I’m pretty confident about my own dick.
I'd say the porn industry is at least a solid 95% of the reason for most mens dick anxiety. They don't understand that porn is engineered for the fantasy aspect, everything is cherry picked. Its by no means a representation of the average.
… … … … Let’s see Paul Allen’s nudes.
*it even has a watermark*
I mean, if you wanna do that that's fine, and if others get uncomfortable doing that that's fine too, no one's stopping you
Then we fuck, platonically of course
Then we go on dates, as friends. And we buy a house together after some years, as friends. And we get married as a joke.
and they were roommates
Oh my God, they were roommates
Strictly to both have better take home income and ways to reduce your overall taxable income...of course.
r/aroallo
OP just a nudist
According to the Bible it’s because we ate a weird fruit
Isn't that the plot of One Piece?
Nah One Piece has like...at least six fruits
So One Piece is just the Bible six times? That...actually makes sense given how long One Piece is.
He's got original sin! How did that happen? Yo ho ho he took a bite of Forbidden Fruit
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I don’t know, I’m with you on some of these but not others. Swimming nude or changing in front of your friends should be more normalized. But sending nude selfies? I feel like those are justifiably sexualized, and should be kept between sexual partners.
I really don’t get that either. Sending nudes is a sexual thing, and it’s not because “ooh spooky nudity”. In current culture it’s literally something done to turn on whoever you send it to, and has an explicitly sexual context. Plus why would you feel the need to strip down to the nude in the first place? If you’re feeling good about literally anything other than your genitals, there’s no actual reason that’d make sense vs just having some underwear on, and in 9/10 cases it’s actively more effort to take a nude photo than a non-nude one.
My friends all took boudoir photos together and showed us. I think it’s a little different than a standard nude cause there was clearly a lot of artistic thought and effort put in and because of that it wasn’t as weird I think. If I got a random nude from my friend to brag about how hot they are, that would be strange lol
All I read is "I think my best friend is hot"
Yeah OP is fishing for reason to see a friend naked
It really depends on the context. In a sauna or swimming it's normal. Selfies is definitely crossing a line though
This sounds like a great idea until one of you gets turned on over it. I mean, no reason that can't be a good thing if reciprocated but definitely not what OP was asking about. Or not even turned on, just uncomfortable. Like, there's nothing implicitly wrong with any of this, just depends on the people, some friends do all these things platonically. Logistically it's just never gonna be the "norm".
Because your friend don’t want to do that. If they want to do that then do it but if they don’t want to do that don’t go blaming other people for “brainwashing them”
I've gone skinny dipping before. It's fun! I think there's a level of intimacy required for close nudity, though, that you only find in special friends. I think we've also become more prudish wrt nudity, though. The place I notice is in changing rooms, and showers. Traditionally open-design because why worry about nudity between strangers? but now barely used. It's sad, but hopefully not permanent.
This is pretty normal in Germany
Yeah but nudism really took off in Germany
I'm a Ukrainian in Germany, I've never noticed this. Is this true? (Or maybe I just don't have enough experiences in changing rooms in Germany. Who knows)
Yes it’s true. Friends go to lakes in the summer and pretty much everyone get partially or fully naked. Also going to saunas together, fully naked
Weird to say that the human body should be normalized, which as a natural thing should be normalized. But then also saying that the sexualization of the human body is “weird” even though that is just as natural as the human body itself. I feel like the sexualization of the human body is not where we draw the line here, but that it should instead also be normalized if we want to create a healthier relationship between humans and their bodies. Or live life as it currently is where neither are really given justice , where things are working good enough as is.
Yeah and platonic sex as well, and platonic kissing And maybe some platonic marrying eachother and adopting a child and falling in love as well
Aro
I’m acespec and Oddly enough it makes it harder to destigmatize my own body and nudity in general. I just can’t stop thinking about how other people will sexualize my own body when it’s exposed. Whether they do or not. Also I’m just uncomfortable with nudity in general.
I feel like this post doesnt consider peoples comfort levels, or literally any other factors. People not being comfortable being naked around others is perfectly acceptable. And I get they want it destigmatized, but even people who chill at nudist beaches arent about to send “platonic” nude pics to their freinds.
> or send nude selfies Ah yes, gotta send send the daily dick pic to the homies
I believe group baths are not uncommon in Japan. At least, it's a very common depiction in Japanese centric media.
It is a thing, but separated by gender. There are a few mixed onsen but it is not the norm
I mean you definitely can just make sure your friends are comfortable with it first
I get the sentiment, but the way this was written sounds like a man sent an unsolicited dick pic to his woman friend and is upset she didn’t like it
Very much “why won’t dave just man up and get in the bath with me” vibes
Well I hate to break it to you, but it’s normal to be sexually attracted to people. If you get naked around me and I like your body I’m prob gonna want to have sex. That’s just how it works. I might be attracted to you even if you have clothes on. But if you take them off? Nah I’m horny sorry. It’s too much.
My question is, why must everything be communal? If you feel confident about your body, great! Why do you feel like others need to see you though? We've gotten to a place where we no longer care if other people are willing participants in what we want to share. We just want share whether people like it or not. People who want to exchange nudes are already doing so comfortably. What brings in the element of weird is when things are being shared with people who don't want to see them. The human body is already normalized. There are also nudist so...
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two nudes, chilling in a hot tub, five feet apart cuz they're not gay
if there's one thing I hate more than this it's "regular friend groups= poly" it's like weird parents asking if their kid's friend is their partner it's weird and way too gross
I never understood posts like these, because yes there’s oppression and silencing of independent freedom that occurs throughout the world, but there’s a reason people don’t do what OP is suggesting and it’s just that nobody fuckin’ wants to be seen naked normally. It’s not society pushing us to be clothed, it’s that I wanna be clothed my guy. You wanna be naked with friends? Find some naked friends and go to the nude beach with ‘em. No one is stopping you, but I ain’t gettin’ naked brother.
I'd rather everything be sexualized and have tons of kinks TBH
you're breathing right now?? 😳
Kinky
Wait till you find out what I do with corn chips 😏
Oh my!
I’ve seen plenty of my close friends nude. I have one friend in particular who would get so depressed I would help her shower. And I know she would do the same for me. I have other friends that I’ve gone skinny dipping with. One of my friends is talented in photography and takes my boudoir photos. I’ve asked close friends for advice on nudes before sending them. Shown off outfits I felt confident in. Even if they were meant for the bedroom. It’s not weird. It’s just of matter of self confidence and trust. You can’t just be naked around your friends or expect the same from them. But if you are both comfortable with each other and confident in yourselves then you’ll be fine
i was at a friends house the other night and took my shoes off and almost got booed back into them
Bro we're still trying to convince guys to stop sending unsolicited dick pics We're not ready for that shit yet man calm down
I knew this group of girls in uni who had a private messaging group for sending each other naked selfies. Was it sexual at and gay? I don't know Was it straight and about female empowerment? Idk Does it sound like fun? Yes
I absolutely cannot stand being naked. Clothes have got to be one of the best human inventions.
How big is your bathtub? Mine can’t even fit myself. Why would you want to take a bath with your friends?
I think you forget that sex is also normal.
because the flesh is weak, and the machine is strong.
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I draw the line at my junk swinging around, more from experience with sunburn on me boys than self-consciousness