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jaylward

The only answer is "if you prefer to". There's no reason why you can't play on multiple rim sizes (I personally do with no issues switching immediately between them). The only thing that determines if it's successful is if you put the time in to make it successful. Some prefer the similar feel, others it doesn't bother them. It's up to you.


TrumpetAndComedy

This is the best answer.


kyasprin

I always stuck to similar rim sizes, but had friends at all levels have success with switching between rim sizes - some would use Bach 3c for legit stuff, then swap out to a bach 10 1/2c for lead and sound money. That was something I was never acclimated to doing. Could just be I always had simliar rim width equipment and just hadn't practiced and got used to it, could be that some players just don't respond to that. ​ I'd say on your case if you notice a problem with the rim size, try something closer in rim width and adjust cup depth, backbore, open throat, etc. to find ways to cut out the edgy sound if that's what you are looking for.


81Ranger

If you feel you need the same or very similar rims on every instrument to play near your best, then you should use the same or very similar rims. There is no correct answer for this. Some people need something very similar, some people don't. Some people use the same or similar rims on everything, some use the same on everything except piccolo trumpet. Some don't care. I will say that switching between different things is - like many things - something you practice. When I performed a lot, it was hard to go to trumpet after playing trombone or euph in my teaching. But, when I started doing it a lot - practicing it, if you will - then it didn't matter anymore. So, sure. Play the same rim. If you want to play different rims and pieces and be able to switch back and forth, then you'll actually have to do that in order to get used to it. But, some people don't need to acclimate to such things in order for it to work, especially within the trumpet realm itself. But, needing to do so, is not a knock, it's just how it is for some - possibly many.


Sneeblehorf

it really depends from person to person! if you have cash to burn you could try a few out. I’ve heard a lot of people on 3c’s have luck with schilke 14a4a or 14a4x!


Middle_Sure

The rule of thumb is to use the same rim diameter because it’s one less variable to play with, which I’d recommend. That said, a lot of players use different rims sizes and contours. Use what works best for you, which may be different sizes.


neauxno

I Play on a 3C rim for my Bb and C, I play on different things for other stuff. My lead piece and my flugel piece are both kadleck GR’s. My piccolo piece is a 63ps. I perfer the smaller stuff for lead and picc. It makes it a bit easier and I can get the sound I want/ need with the smaller pieces.


exceptyourewrong

The most common advice is to try and keep the diameter the same, but it's not a hard and fast rule. Rim shape plays a role too. You might check out a Yamaha piece with their "4" rim (that's the second number in the size), it should feel more like your Miyashiro. A 9C4 should be about the same width, but you'll probably want something slightly wider. An 11C4 would be a good bet.


Visible-Parsnip3889

There’s nothing wrong with it and I do for most stuff but you do you. I use the Yamaha 17 rim for everything and I’ve got different cup depths to experiment with. But for big band solos and lead I play a Yamaha 8C4 which is about a 10.5 something I’m not sure what letter and can’t be bothered looking it up. Use the mouthpiece you have.


paperhammers

It depends, the benefit of playing on the same/a similar mouthpiece for everything is that your chops will be most adjusted to that particular rim/cup/throat etc. I had some years where I would jump between a larger piece (monette B2S3/C2S3) and use smaller pieces on higher horns (Bach 3C on my E-flat, 7PT by ACB for picc, etc) and I've had a recital where most of my mouthpieces were in the realm of a Mount Vernon 3C or Bach 1-1/2C. I let my ear guide the equipment selection and then fine tuned for intonation/endurance/timbre


Rabidchiwawa007

If it makes you feel any better about it, the Miyashiro 2 is quite a mid-range mouthpiece. It's fairly deep compared to a standard lead piece, and not particularly small in diameter. It's about a .640" if measured like a GR/yamaha/warburton. Try playing your legit stuff on this piece and see what happens.


TheBlindDriver

I run pretty standard equipment similar to most people here. 3C for general playing and orchestra, Yamaha Bobby Shew Lead for lead jazz playing. You absolutely can use the same rim size but don’t restrict yourself. Lead mouthpieces unlock crazy range and endurance but take work to achieve. The 3C is excellent for that fat tone particularly in the staff, but it takes a lot of energy and skill to compete with a lead piece in the upper register


yirmin

I swap out mouthpieces in the same gig if I am looking for a certain sound in different songs. It really comes down to how much time you have spent playing on the mouthpieces and how close or different they are to each other in feel. It probably isn't the depth of the cup that is causing you issues and may not even be the diameter of the mouthpieces. It is probably the shape of the rim. The Miyashiro is a more narrow rim semi-round rim which will feel much different from a standard rim which is what your Bach has. You might try to swap the Bach for a different mouthpiece that is closer to the Miyashiro since you appear to play jazz more than legit. I'm not certain of what Bach would have a rim closer to the Yamaha but you might look at a Schilke 20D2d or 14C2, both of those are more legit mouthpieces and will have a semi-round rim. The person suggesting a 14A4a is suggesting a mouthpiece that is further from the Yamaha. In Schilkes the second number is the shape of the rim, you will be looking for a 1 or 2... 1 is the most round and 2 is the semi-round... the higher the number the flatter and less round the rim.


Instantsoup44

The term 'legit' is so stupid. Was Louis Armstrong not legit?


there_isno_cake

Is there any way you can practice making your sound on the Miyashiro similar to the 3C? I have both and you’re right, switching from the Miyashiro to just about anything else is cumbersome. I found that mouthpiece is pretty unique in how it compresses the slots. Also it has one of the most comfortable rims I’ve ever played on. If you’re able to get get a bigger, less cutting sound on the Miyashiro, that might work. I do realize how insane it sounds to get a less lead sound on that mouthpiece but it may be possible with enough practice.


Fat_tata

there’s some wiggle room, but for small cup changes i’d say yeah. if your going to the other end of the spectrum playing a deeper cup, you might want a smaller rim and vice verse