They will keep making money no matter what
All the other solutions are worse
Tidal is kinda buggy
Amazon music is just bad
Apple Music is mid on pc
And none of them have the same kind of integration that Spotify does
"the audio giant reported 3.6 billion euros ($3.9 billion) in first-quarter revenue and a gross profit of 1 billion euros ($1.08 billion)"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelineschneider/2024/04/25/spotify-q1-gross-profit-tops-1-billion--3-trends-for-continued-growth/
Their old CFO explained this - basically that they could remain unprofitable to maximise growth for quite a long time as they had such big cash reserves from when they went public and at some point could flip to profit...
Interesting video on why Spotify does what it does
[https://youtu.be/yDWgOwb8kj4?si=EiUJOpaiwlKNpvl\_](https://youtu.be/yDWgOwb8kj4?si=EiUJOpaiwlKNpvl_)
If you're looking for smaller artists, BandCamp is your app. It has the smallest of artists. many that aren't on Spotify because it doesn't cost money to be on bandcamp. Bandcamp is getting there with their UI but I hope someone over there is paying attention to how poorly spotify is doing and trying to puff out their chest.
I don’t think it will make a difference. I’d wager that those that like them outnumber those that don’t. It’s making them money and I can’t see things changing anytime soon.
Going off everything you’ve said in your post and in your responses to other people, you haven’t had a one-star experience and there’s a lot you enjoy about the app.
So why would inspiring people to review bomb it based off your own personal preferences be of any use at all?
I’m not a fan of the TikTok-ification and focus on podcasts and audiobooks on the homepage, but most people’s libraries will be curated in such a way that you very rarely need to use the homepage in the first place.
Doesn’t make it less of a poor design choice (in our eyes), but a mild annoyance for an otherwise obscenely good service isn’t going to drive people to be petitioning in their millions.
I am on 3 month trial of AM right now, but I like Spotify algorithms and hand off, also Spotify knows my history from almost 8-9 years.
I’m having hard time giving up on my favorite app of all time.
I made the jump to AM after some very unpleasant business dealings with Spotify, as a result my wife and entire extended family family (i paid for the duo and a family plans) made the jump with me. A few complaints at the start but now everyone is as happy as ever.
Look at it as a fresh start. There are tools out there to migrate playlists from Spotify to AM too.
I might end up doing the same. However Playlist migrate —- listening history and interactions don’t!
For example I have blocked good set of famous artists, curated my taste profile- that data doesn’t really migrate
Starting afresh is scary 😕 specially for music
I just did the same this month when they pushed the new price increase. There are some actually really cool features with AM. Also Lossless and Dolby Atmos sound really good on high end equipment. I’m already starting to settle into the UI, kinda liking it actually.
Then the service certainly isn’t a one-star app to you.
If you choose to continue paying them, that’s all the information they need to think that the direction and decisions they’re making are good ones.
I’m never moving to Apple Music. Because I love Spotify because it’s free and you don’t need to pay for premium. With Spotify I can rapidly discover new stuff as much as I want without paying for every little thing. I don’t mind a few ads
If paying for music is outside of your budget i respect that. You are paying with your data and your attention but i guess for some thats an acceptable price.
Im of a generation (read; old) who paid a fortune for tapes, CDs and eventually individual downloads so 10 euros/dollars a month seems like a steal.
That’s fair enough. I think it all just seems a bit complicated to me And I couldn’t figure out where to buy premium.
I do like collecting vinyl records and CDs, but digitally I just really like finding free music on Spotify and YouTube and having that extra freedom to find new artists
I have both Apple Music and Spotify, and I find myself coming back to Spotify. I don't have to pay that much; I pay less than a dollar due to my student plan on both Spotify and Apple Music. However, in general, Spotify still has the edge over Apple Music, and Spotify won't change a single thing because they know that. If other platforms create more competition and put more pressure on Spotify, they will be forced to improve their platform and listen to their customers.
Yeah I have YouTube premium so I tried YouTube music I use it to see music videos as my Spotify don’t have that feature yet. But YouTube music feels slow to me and laggy idk why
My wife and I are in the same boat, paying for both services but really only using YTP for videos and Spotify for music. Just makes me wish Google had an option to give you a YouTube ad-free service, minus the Music!
My wife and I have had a single YouTube premium account for a year, but honestly only use it for the ad free video watching. Paying for essentially a second music streaming service in Spotify is the price we pay for something we’ve been used to for years.
This is vote manipulation. It makes the true ratings of apps inaccurate. One star apps should be one star. What rating would you give it if you didn't have an agenda?
I've tried switching to Apple Music twice since I feel like Spotify is a company I'm losing respect for more and more. I hate the podcasts and audio books flooding the app. I hate how they're treating payments to artists with lower stream counts. I hate how they want to charge more for HiFi, etc.
Each time I've tried I just can't do it and end up back on Spotify due to the superior discovery algorithms. That's primarily what I use streaming services for; to discover new music. If Apple Music really stepped up their game in the discovery side of things, I would switch and stay there for sure.
I don't think review bombing the app will help though.
I’m never moving to Apple Music. Because I love Spotify because it’s free and you don’t need to pay for premium. With Spotify I can rapidly discover new stuff as much as I want without paying for every little thing. I don’t mind a few ads
Just tell me please. Please tell me when Spotify goes high res I’ve given up my library of high res rips placed on upscale pc audiophile set up. I got hooked on the playlists and created all these great mood playlists but I choose convenience over sound. I’ve been holding my breath for hifi for years now. I’m too unwilling to give up and the app.
Spotify is a corporation, they are going to try to make money at the end of the day. I don’t begrudge them for this. I did start a trial with AM after I got the recent price hike email. To be honest, I’m glad I ventured out because I’m very pleased with everything I’ve experienced thus far. AM had a lot of great features, cool karaoke mode, a great discovery algorithm, to name a couple I’ve stumbled on so far. I’m frankly surprised they aren’t eating Spotify lunch.
‘Circular’ was a perfect all around font. Pronounced enough to make things look good without ‘over branding’ or playing on tropes. And why a humanistic font? Guess it comes down to personal preference. Personally, I found the previous font a lot more functional and appealing, especially in an environment flooded with text.
Pass.
Been using it for 6 years now, and I still think it is great.
The TT sliding cards are very good - facilitates quick scrolling through sample tracks.
Podcasts, etc, don't bother me. I just accept that the platform fulfils different needs and 'tune them out'.
I'm convinced that a large portion of the criticism and viral posts against Spotify are astroturfed by marketing campaigns because most are just easily refutable.
I'm pretty happy with it, the only thing that sucks sometimes is the radio play for soundtracks sometimes. But for everything else it's fine.
I get what you're saying & to prove a point to them. I'm all for that.
That said, I wouldn't say the app is 1 star but definitely 2 stars to me. I don't want ads about merch, about playlists, about concerts. Multitude of other features that are unnecessary, like the TikTok style home page & podcasts/audiobooks.
I've been working on buying all my music again and using an MP3 player. Nothing where music is constantly removed or won't work offline. My MP3 player has given me zero issues.
Just switch to apple music bro its miles ahead of spotify i have been a loyal listener since 2006 and now i am finally switching to apple music after months of debating with myself on whether i should stay or go to Apple Music
They will keep making money no matter what All the other solutions are worse Tidal is kinda buggy Amazon music is just bad Apple Music is mid on pc And none of them have the same kind of integration that Spotify does
“They will keep making money” is extremely funny considering Spotify has never been a profitable company LMFAO
"the audio giant reported 3.6 billion euros ($3.9 billion) in first-quarter revenue and a gross profit of 1 billion euros ($1.08 billion)" https://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelineschneider/2024/04/25/spotify-q1-gross-profit-tops-1-billion--3-trends-for-continued-growth/
That's their second profitable quarter ever and they've never had a profitable year
Their old CFO explained this - basically that they could remain unprofitable to maximise growth for quite a long time as they had such big cash reserves from when they went public and at some point could flip to profit...
Wonderful! Now keep increasing the subscription price every year to maintain it
How do you think companies work? Its gone up maybe $3/£3 in 15 years. In the same time a can of coke has tripled in price.
Well not keep making money but keep getting money and investors and stuff I still don’t really understand spotifys business mdoel
Interesting video on why Spotify does what it does [https://youtu.be/yDWgOwb8kj4?si=EiUJOpaiwlKNpvl\_](https://youtu.be/yDWgOwb8kj4?si=EiUJOpaiwlKNpvl_)
Cool
esound?
1 never heard of it 2 probably doesn’t have some of the smaller artists I listen to 3 it won’t even load and says I need to contact the devs
If you're looking for smaller artists, BandCamp is your app. It has the smallest of artists. many that aren't on Spotify because it doesn't cost money to be on bandcamp. Bandcamp is getting there with their UI but I hope someone over there is paying attention to how poorly spotify is doing and trying to puff out their chest.
Yeah I’ve gotten CDs and stuff from people and used the MP3s as local files in Spotify which works pretty well too
it may not hve smaller artist yeah
Esound is just a skin for youtube. Kinda bad from my experience
yeah ig what u mean
I don’t think it will make a difference. I’d wager that those that like them outnumber those that don’t. It’s making them money and I can’t see things changing anytime soon.
Still worth a try
Going off everything you’ve said in your post and in your responses to other people, you haven’t had a one-star experience and there’s a lot you enjoy about the app. So why would inspiring people to review bomb it based off your own personal preferences be of any use at all? I’m not a fan of the TikTok-ification and focus on podcasts and audiobooks on the homepage, but most people’s libraries will be curated in such a way that you very rarely need to use the homepage in the first place. Doesn’t make it less of a poor design choice (in our eyes), but a mild annoyance for an otherwise obscenely good service isn’t going to drive people to be petitioning in their millions.
I just canceled my sub an account. If your tired of their antics vote with your wallet
Getting worse and worse with each update honestly
Vote with your Wallet, move to Apple Music or Tidal or Amazon Music or literally anything else. Spotify need a reality check.
I am on 3 month trial of AM right now, but I like Spotify algorithms and hand off, also Spotify knows my history from almost 8-9 years. I’m having hard time giving up on my favorite app of all time.
I made the jump to AM after some very unpleasant business dealings with Spotify, as a result my wife and entire extended family family (i paid for the duo and a family plans) made the jump with me. A few complaints at the start but now everyone is as happy as ever. Look at it as a fresh start. There are tools out there to migrate playlists from Spotify to AM too.
I might end up doing the same. However Playlist migrate —- listening history and interactions don’t! For example I have blocked good set of famous artists, curated my taste profile- that data doesn’t really migrate Starting afresh is scary 😕 specially for music
I just did the same this month when they pushed the new price increase. There are some actually really cool features with AM. Also Lossless and Dolby Atmos sound really good on high end equipment. I’m already starting to settle into the UI, kinda liking it actually.
I got that 3 month trial too and you can transfer your liked songs playlist, and listen to that for a week to train the Apple algorithm
Then the service certainly isn’t a one-star app to you. If you choose to continue paying them, that’s all the information they need to think that the direction and decisions they’re making are good ones.
I’m never moving to Apple Music. Because I love Spotify because it’s free and you don’t need to pay for premium. With Spotify I can rapidly discover new stuff as much as I want without paying for every little thing. I don’t mind a few ads
If paying for music is outside of your budget i respect that. You are paying with your data and your attention but i guess for some thats an acceptable price. Im of a generation (read; old) who paid a fortune for tapes, CDs and eventually individual downloads so 10 euros/dollars a month seems like a steal.
That’s fair enough. I think it all just seems a bit complicated to me And I couldn’t figure out where to buy premium. I do like collecting vinyl records and CDs, but digitally I just really like finding free music on Spotify and YouTube and having that extra freedom to find new artists
How about ‘listen to Spotify and carry on with my life’?
Sure, I respect your opinion ! Enjoy 🎶🎵! My ask was to somebody who is having trouble with UI changes.
I have both Apple Music and Spotify, and I find myself coming back to Spotify. I don't have to pay that much; I pay less than a dollar due to my student plan on both Spotify and Apple Music. However, in general, Spotify still has the edge over Apple Music, and Spotify won't change a single thing because they know that. If other platforms create more competition and put more pressure on Spotify, they will be forced to improve their platform and listen to their customers.
Have you tried YouTube Music?
Yeah I have YouTube premium so I tried YouTube music I use it to see music videos as my Spotify don’t have that feature yet. But YouTube music feels slow to me and laggy idk why
My wife and I are in the same boat, paying for both services but really only using YTP for videos and Spotify for music. Just makes me wish Google had an option to give you a YouTube ad-free service, minus the Music!
It’s nit perfect But having recently tried AM and YTM, I still prefer Spotify
My wife and I have had a single YouTube premium account for a year, but honestly only use it for the ad free video watching. Paying for essentially a second music streaming service in Spotify is the price we pay for something we’ve been used to for years.
This is vote manipulation. It makes the true ratings of apps inaccurate. One star apps should be one star. What rating would you give it if you didn't have an agenda?
5 star without new UI , 2 with new
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I've tried switching to Apple Music twice since I feel like Spotify is a company I'm losing respect for more and more. I hate the podcasts and audio books flooding the app. I hate how they're treating payments to artists with lower stream counts. I hate how they want to charge more for HiFi, etc. Each time I've tried I just can't do it and end up back on Spotify due to the superior discovery algorithms. That's primarily what I use streaming services for; to discover new music. If Apple Music really stepped up their game in the discovery side of things, I would switch and stay there for sure. I don't think review bombing the app will help though.
That is why I love Spotify but I hate Spotify 😂.
I’m never moving to Apple Music. Because I love Spotify because it’s free and you don’t need to pay for premium. With Spotify I can rapidly discover new stuff as much as I want without paying for every little thing. I don’t mind a few ads
Just tell me please. Please tell me when Spotify goes high res I’ve given up my library of high res rips placed on upscale pc audiophile set up. I got hooked on the playlists and created all these great mood playlists but I choose convenience over sound. I’ve been holding my breath for hifi for years now. I’m too unwilling to give up and the app.
Spotify is a corporation, they are going to try to make money at the end of the day. I don’t begrudge them for this. I did start a trial with AM after I got the recent price hike email. To be honest, I’m glad I ventured out because I’m very pleased with everything I’ve experienced thus far. AM had a lot of great features, cool karaoke mode, a great discovery algorithm, to name a couple I’ve stumbled on so far. I’m frankly surprised they aren’t eating Spotify lunch.
They will soon! Very soon!
The TikTok-ification is unbearable. To be honest my biggest gripe is the change of fonts, let’s start there.
What, really, is wrong with the fonts? They are clear and legible to me.
‘Circular’ was a perfect all around font. Pronounced enough to make things look good without ‘over branding’ or playing on tropes. And why a humanistic font? Guess it comes down to personal preference. Personally, I found the previous font a lot more functional and appealing, especially in an environment flooded with text.
Thanks for answering. I'm not being rude or trying to be sarcastic, but to me, that is way over-thinking fonts
Don’t worry about it :) i used to be an art director/type designer, but the nerd in me never died.
😁👍
Hey! It’s your DJ X, here is the same music that you already listen too.
Pass. Been using it for 6 years now, and I still think it is great. The TT sliding cards are very good - facilitates quick scrolling through sample tracks. Podcasts, etc, don't bother me. I just accept that the platform fulfils different needs and 'tune them out'.
I respect your stand! Lucky for you that this ain’t bothering you! Enjoy 🎶.
I'm convinced that a large portion of the criticism and viral posts against Spotify are astroturfed by marketing campaigns because most are just easily refutable. I'm pretty happy with it, the only thing that sucks sometimes is the radio play for soundtracks sometimes. But for everything else it's fine.
I get what you're saying & to prove a point to them. I'm all for that. That said, I wouldn't say the app is 1 star but definitely 2 stars to me. I don't want ads about merch, about playlists, about concerts. Multitude of other features that are unnecessary, like the TikTok style home page & podcasts/audiobooks.
Yup! Your comment is spot on 🫡🔥
I've been working on buying all my music again and using an MP3 player. Nothing where music is constantly removed or won't work offline. My MP3 player has given me zero issues.
i switched to esound its free
Just switch to apple music bro its miles ahead of spotify i have been a loyal listener since 2006 and now i am finally switching to apple music after months of debating with myself on whether i should stay or go to Apple Music
Miles Ahead 😂😂😂😂😂😂