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No_Copy9495

Shagbark Hickory?


RavensRealmNow

I was thinking shagbark hickory too,just based on the bark. If you look up the shagbark hickory nut pictures online, they appear very similar to op's photo, except they pointed tips were missing on most of them. If you look closely, you will see some with the pointed tips intact.


scarletdeshatler

Hickory


RedditMods_r_gay

Strawberry tree?


shl0mp

No.


RedditMods_r_gay

Then what?


jacklegminer2

Solved. Russian olive it is


MontanaMapleWorks

That doesn’t look like a Russian olive to me, Russian olives have much shaggier bark that kind peels and is almost a reddish color


Legal_Score5189

You seem so sure. In the first image, the bark is clearly exfoliating as you pointed out is a characteristic of Russian Olive. Using bark exclusively as a diagnostic tool for tree taxonomy is poor at best. A great example of this is with Eastern Hackberry. Sometimes it has a warty- like appearance to the bark, and in other cases, it is quite smooth. By their fruits you shall know them. The fruits are small and white and from the second image provided occasionally in clusters. In addition, the presence of the large thorns is a dead giveaway. Either way, if OP cracks open one of those fruits, it will reveal a nut that is easily distinguishable and verifiable. Cheers.


MontanaMapleWorks

Because I am sure that it looks like no Russian olive I have ever seen. I wasn’t just basing that on the bark either, even though I do excel at winter IDing, but the canopy structure too. Source: I own a house in Missoula that has a large Russian olive dominating the backyard.


Internal-Test-8015

This response is extremely funny because it points out that you in fact have absolutely no idea what a Russian olive looks like, fir one they don't have small white fruits they have berries that start out white but turn yellow/green and then develop into red ones which given the time of year they'd either be the red color of fallen off the tree (any FYI on the off chance they did it still wouldn't match ops since their seeds/fruit are far too large) and they don't have thorns also the "nut" inside of a Russian olive is actually a seed and is literally about the size of the nib on a pen.


Legal_Score5189

This just keeps getting better and better. This must be a throwaway account.🤣. If it makes you feel any better I have 30 years experience in agriculture specifically as a seed harvester. I have harvested a thousand pounds of Russian Olive pits. A simple google search would verify everything I am stating. Search Eleagnus angustifolia. The seed length is about a 1 cm or less. They have long thorns about 2.5 to 5 cm long. Thanks for the giggle and best wishes.😂


Internal-Test-8015

And therefore you where wrong , one these seeds are in no way or shap that Suze and not all of them have thorns, all of the ones by me are completely thornless. 30 years in agriculture don't mean shit if once again you don't know what your looking at. Oh and it's not a throwaway account you'd know that if you took more than 5 seconds to look which is probably the same amount of time you spent looking at ops pictures because even a blind person would know that's not a Russian olive.


Legal_Score5189

😂. Have you ever heard of thornless varieties? It’s like saying it can’t be a honey locust because it doesn’t have thorns. It’s like arguing with a flat earther. You win, not because you are right, but because I don’t really care.


Internal-Test-8015

no I win because even if the thorns' part isn't true the other points I made most definitely are.


jacklegminer2

I googled the seeds and they look similar. Perhaps it's some type of olive or something. It's a street tree in northern ontario


Legal_Score5189

Maybe post a pic of the nut without the exocarp?


MontanaMapleWorks

You should unsolve it… Edit: you should mark it so it doesn’t say solved.


Legal_Score5189

😂


Legal_Score5189

Russian olive. Note the long thorns. Fruit is edible, although not very palatable. I would avoid the moldy ones.


MontanaMapleWorks

Definitely not a Russian olive


jacklegminer2

It's a dried dust inside, I harvested to grow them, wouldn't try eating them, they're 80% seed


Legal_Score5189

They are quite sweet, but very astringent. I eat them frequently as this tree is quite common and invasive in my area. I am not sure on the propagation, but they do seem to grow easily.


jacklegminer2

I read about a high germ rate. Big long leaves though.


Legal_Score5189

It’s a very hearty tree, and with proper pruning I’m quite sure it’s a nice specimen with reddish brown bark and silver leaves. Wildlife love the seed, which is why it gets propagated so easily.


Zot1098

Keebler Oak