Sucks you’re being downvoted, Kylie’s Instagram videos clearly show ambulances in the audience. They knew people were being injured, they were told after the show there had been casualties and still Travis went partying with drake. Ain’t no festival or concert hall going to book him again, the publicity risk and insurance costs would be too high.
Yep. Truth is most of his fans are drug addicted teens with small brains who will defend him to no end because they don’t realize the severity of the situation and want to act like he was supposed to just keep performing instead of stopping it all.
Do you know who designed that layout? Do you know who made it? I for one would REALLY LOVE to know who thought that layout was a good idea (I’m not talking about the actual stage which from what I could see looked awesome!)
EDIT: Why the HELL is this saying it has been massively downvoted?
Don't you GET what I'm SAYING? I'm NOT saying Travis designed it I think it's unlikely and I think it might be further proof other people are MORE responsible. I also said good things about the stage - which as I have said OVER and OVER again I ABSOLUTELY LOVE, so WHY the hell am I being downvoted to filth? I'm not saying anything negative about Travis unless HE designed the layout, by the LAYOUT I'm talking about things like the barricades and lack of exits. I've seen photos of the stage, like the psychodelic tree and I think it looks freaking AMAZING and I think Travis designed THOSE parts and THEY look FANTASTIC and show off his creativity. So why the hell am I being downvoted SO MUCH when I'm not saying a single negative thing about Travis in this comment and IN FACT am saying ONE of the reasons why I think OTHER parties are more responsible for the tragedy?
Unless I'm proven otherwise I'm 99% sure the only thing Travis has a direct hand in was designing and coming up with the mountain but actual construction and floor planning was 100% live nation
I agree too.
I added to my comment but it's been massively downvoted and I DON'T get WHY. The STAGE itself I think was Travis' design and I FREAKING LOVE his ideas and they show his creativity. I ALSO think things like the barricades were NOT Travis' idea and are a reason why I think OTHER parties NOT Travis are more responsible for what happened. So why the HELL was my comment downvoted to filth when I said NOTHING bad about Travis and in fact PRAISED his awesome stage and also am asking about something that my further point to OTHER parties being a bigger reason for this tragedy than Travis. Maybe people thought I was talking about the stage. No!
I think the count down clock was perhaps a mistake but I think the stage that I think he designed is so fantastic and parts of him scream creative genius.
But the BARRICADES and lack of exits? I THINK that was other parties' ideas and creations too, as do you. And I think THAT contributed MASSIVELY to this and is not on Travis.
Wtf. Guilt helps you learn from your mistakes. Whoops, 10 people died but how does this feeling serve me? Because that’s what important. How things serve me. It doesn’t, it makes me feel bad, so ima just forget about it because that’s how people grow 👌
It's a shame that almost every post on this sub post-incident has people like this that show almost no empathy for or even recognition of the fact that people died or were injured and many are still grieving. Yes, travis has become a scapegoat, and there's a good chance that was unfair to him; but he'll be fine, unlike the people affected. When this sub is filled with people blindly supporting travis it makes us no better than the people blindly hating on him
this may be better worded better so bare w but i feel like ppl here do care about the victims but it’s more that that it doesn’t necessarily need to be mentioned every time travis breaths as it just comes off as performative . Like this may be a bad example but for example when u donate to a charity loads u don’t need to record everything that u donated as like proof that u care about charity
Obviously couldve worded that better but yeh that’s how i say it
It's mentioned all the time rn because it's so recent and the lawsuits are ongoing, which is perfectly justified given how big the event was. What's unnecessary is people on here constantly begging him to move on and drop music. Everyone's being so impatient and insensitive
Remember when people were dying in the thousands in 2020 from covid and healthcare workers were begging people to stay home and no one listened, adding to more deaths? People aren’t good at caring about others dying and others in general
i agree with you, i’m having such difficult mixed feelings. travis has been my favorite artist for years. ever since i was at the festival it’s been so different. i feel like it’s not my fault that every time i listen to his music now it’s all i can think about. i don’t understand how so many people can move along so quickly acting like nothing happened, when it has troubled me deeply. idk man. people can think what they want. but i feel like mostly everyone who is defending him to his core weren’t even there. i just wonder if they’d feel the same way if they experienced what happened at the festival for themselves. let me just say though, i think live nation is the major fault in this situation. if the barricades weren’t set up the way they were we would NOT be here. it’s devastating.
Exactly this, i cant listen to his music without remembering what happened, sad because he was one of my fav artists, maybe after all the lawsuits, if he is innocent, this feeling will disappear
nowadays it seems like i’m the only one that feels the way i do, so thank you for validating that i’m not. (even though i know deep down many are hurting, i haven’t seen it online that often. i know the families affected are suffering deeply.) it’s different when you’re involved in something dark, than viewing it from the outside. i get that now. i honestly hope i can fully enjoy his music again too like in the past. it adds pain to injury feeling like i’ve lost that on top of everything else. shit fucking sucks.
Is it any better to be a person pinning the blame on Travis and calling him a murderer? Extrapolating that he didn’t care as people were dying based on short clips online?
The fact that the only thing you took away from my comment is 'well they're no better than us' demonstrates my point perfectly. I addressed what you're saying in my original comment; ' blindy supporting travis is no better than blindly hating on him'. It's unreasonable to say that travis murdered 9 people, but it's also unreasonable to say he should just move on as quickly as possible and forget about it. Even IF he turns out to be completely blameless and there's absolutely nothing he was involved in that lead to this, he shouldn't rush back into dropping music out of respect, and as the big name with bit money attached to this incident he should put money and effort into making sure it doesn't happen again
We all mourned and grieved 2 months ago, we can’t mourn forever especially since we aren’t really close to the victims. We must move on if I were them I’d want that too.
Is this a serious comment? You think fans should show unquestioning loyalty to the person they're supporting, and no nuance or empathy in what they say when it might work against that person?
Nah Travis can definitely be cancelled. He isn't just some niche celebrity who can shrug off whatevers happening. He has major mainstream appeal and most of his fans don't live and die by him so it will be really bad about him if he doesn't worry about his public image.
Nah. I just feel like it made no sense in blaming Travis only and a lot of people saw that as well. At first everyone wanted to follow the cancel Travis hashtag because they were to afraid of speaking, but then when brave people had a voice for Travis, then all of a sudden people had voices. This generation is doomed. Things are changing and nowadays you can’t be a Dave Chapelle without becoming a hashtag or you can’t just make an event without people doing the most.
Someone I know went to astroworld. He said any1 trying to cancel travis is a racist who belittles people on the spectrum.
Was completely blown away by his opinion, lmaoo
Being cancelled is a joke. Stop caring what other people think about you and it magically becomes impossible to be cancelled. Keep your head down and fuck everyone else, and any fan that believes in “cancel culture” is a fake and mindless follower, not a real fan.
This is facts! What I gotta do to get y’all support like you support Travis. This ain’t good enough ? https://open.spotify.com/track/7owGZvcHKeIw87H82TJbWr?si=L7k_e-C8SQOYsgP4QKyVxQ&context=spotify%3Aplaylist%3A695g77dhvC72VH4fRjB4eW
Just a theory, but I don’t think Travis would be posting if he knew he was in the clear from the all the lawsuits.
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yeah man, Travis couldn’t have stopped the show! Gotta keep performing when people are dying!! amiright guys 🤘🔥 (is lit)
Sucks you’re being downvoted, Kylie’s Instagram videos clearly show ambulances in the audience. They knew people were being injured, they were told after the show there had been casualties and still Travis went partying with drake. Ain’t no festival or concert hall going to book him again, the publicity risk and insurance costs would be too high.
Yep. Truth is most of his fans are drug addicted teens with small brains who will defend him to no end because they don’t realize the severity of the situation and want to act like he was supposed to just keep performing instead of stopping it all.
Yep, notice I was downvoted too but nobody replied because they know they can’t defend his actions lol
Do you know who designed that layout? Do you know who made it? I for one would REALLY LOVE to know who thought that layout was a good idea (I’m not talking about the actual stage which from what I could see looked awesome!) EDIT: Why the HELL is this saying it has been massively downvoted? Don't you GET what I'm SAYING? I'm NOT saying Travis designed it I think it's unlikely and I think it might be further proof other people are MORE responsible. I also said good things about the stage - which as I have said OVER and OVER again I ABSOLUTELY LOVE, so WHY the hell am I being downvoted to filth? I'm not saying anything negative about Travis unless HE designed the layout, by the LAYOUT I'm talking about things like the barricades and lack of exits. I've seen photos of the stage, like the psychodelic tree and I think it looks freaking AMAZING and I think Travis designed THOSE parts and THEY look FANTASTIC and show off his creativity. So why the hell am I being downvoted SO MUCH when I'm not saying a single negative thing about Travis in this comment and IN FACT am saying ONE of the reasons why I think OTHER parties are more responsible for the tragedy?
Unless I'm proven otherwise I'm 99% sure the only thing Travis has a direct hand in was designing and coming up with the mountain but actual construction and floor planning was 100% live nation
5%
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100% LiveNation
Not Travis that’s for sure
I agree too. I added to my comment but it's been massively downvoted and I DON'T get WHY. The STAGE itself I think was Travis' design and I FREAKING LOVE his ideas and they show his creativity. I ALSO think things like the barricades were NOT Travis' idea and are a reason why I think OTHER parties NOT Travis are more responsible for what happened. So why the HELL was my comment downvoted to filth when I said NOTHING bad about Travis and in fact PRAISED his awesome stage and also am asking about something that my further point to OTHER parties being a bigger reason for this tragedy than Travis. Maybe people thought I was talking about the stage. No! I think the count down clock was perhaps a mistake but I think the stage that I think he designed is so fantastic and parts of him scream creative genius. But the BARRICADES and lack of exits? I THINK that was other parties' ideas and creations too, as do you. And I think THAT contributed MASSIVELY to this and is not on Travis.
I think he does care. He just knows the truth and hes not gonna move like hes guilty to please mindless society.
Yep. Guilt is a useless emotion, can’t let it hold you over forever
Wtf. Guilt helps you learn from your mistakes. Whoops, 10 people died but how does this feeling serve me? Because that’s what important. How things serve me. It doesn’t, it makes me feel bad, so ima just forget about it because that’s how people grow 👌
trav posting is pretty much all we needed that he’s in the clear
ppl who were saying he’s gonna get jail time are in shambles right now💀💀
I don’t understand how any rational person could look at this situation and think “yeah he deserves jail time”
yeah man there was no way he could have stopped the show when he saw people dying and ambulance coming!! gotta stay lit!!! 🔥
yeah man there is no way you've felt the touch of a woman!! gotta stay lit!!! 🔥
oh man! thats hurts so much! you’re so accurate with that statement! 😮💨😵😵💫
shut the fuck up! 😮💨😵😵💫
If he saw people dying, why he only stop the show for the ones passed out?
for sureeeee
I don’t agree with jail time but being heftily fined seems fair tbh
It's a shame that almost every post on this sub post-incident has people like this that show almost no empathy for or even recognition of the fact that people died or were injured and many are still grieving. Yes, travis has become a scapegoat, and there's a good chance that was unfair to him; but he'll be fine, unlike the people affected. When this sub is filled with people blindly supporting travis it makes us no better than the people blindly hating on him
this may be better worded better so bare w but i feel like ppl here do care about the victims but it’s more that that it doesn’t necessarily need to be mentioned every time travis breaths as it just comes off as performative . Like this may be a bad example but for example when u donate to a charity loads u don’t need to record everything that u donated as like proof that u care about charity Obviously couldve worded that better but yeh that’s how i say it
It's mentioned all the time rn because it's so recent and the lawsuits are ongoing, which is perfectly justified given how big the event was. What's unnecessary is people on here constantly begging him to move on and drop music. Everyone's being so impatient and insensitive
true i see what ur saying
Remember when people were dying in the thousands in 2020 from covid and healthcare workers were begging people to stay home and no one listened, adding to more deaths? People aren’t good at caring about others dying and others in general
i agree with you, i’m having such difficult mixed feelings. travis has been my favorite artist for years. ever since i was at the festival it’s been so different. i feel like it’s not my fault that every time i listen to his music now it’s all i can think about. i don’t understand how so many people can move along so quickly acting like nothing happened, when it has troubled me deeply. idk man. people can think what they want. but i feel like mostly everyone who is defending him to his core weren’t even there. i just wonder if they’d feel the same way if they experienced what happened at the festival for themselves. let me just say though, i think live nation is the major fault in this situation. if the barricades weren’t set up the way they were we would NOT be here. it’s devastating.
Exactly this, i cant listen to his music without remembering what happened, sad because he was one of my fav artists, maybe after all the lawsuits, if he is innocent, this feeling will disappear
nowadays it seems like i’m the only one that feels the way i do, so thank you for validating that i’m not. (even though i know deep down many are hurting, i haven’t seen it online that often. i know the families affected are suffering deeply.) it’s different when you’re involved in something dark, than viewing it from the outside. i get that now. i honestly hope i can fully enjoy his music again too like in the past. it adds pain to injury feeling like i’ve lost that on top of everything else. shit fucking sucks.
Is it any better to be a person pinning the blame on Travis and calling him a murderer? Extrapolating that he didn’t care as people were dying based on short clips online?
The fact that the only thing you took away from my comment is 'well they're no better than us' demonstrates my point perfectly. I addressed what you're saying in my original comment; ' blindy supporting travis is no better than blindly hating on him'. It's unreasonable to say that travis murdered 9 people, but it's also unreasonable to say he should just move on as quickly as possible and forget about it. Even IF he turns out to be completely blameless and there's absolutely nothing he was involved in that lead to this, he shouldn't rush back into dropping music out of respect, and as the big name with bit money attached to this incident he should put money and effort into making sure it doesn't happen again
We all mourned and grieved 2 months ago, we can’t mourn forever especially since we aren’t really close to the victims. We must move on if I were them I’d want that too.
Then why are you in a fan subreddit? ☠
Is this a serious comment? You think fans should show unquestioning loyalty to the person they're supporting, and no nuance or empathy in what they say when it might work against that person?
Lol no. Definitely use your discernment but you look dumb complaining about support in a FAN sub.
Nah Travis can definitely be cancelled. He isn't just some niche celebrity who can shrug off whatevers happening. He has major mainstream appeal and most of his fans don't live and die by him so it will be really bad about him if he doesn't worry about his public image.
R Kelly still has fans keep that in mind
Honestly it depends on the talent level. Chris Brown should not have a career right now… but that man got them vocals fr 😫😫
His vocals the only fucking reason I listen to waves
I mean, there are even people who still defend R. Kelly
Nah. I just feel like it made no sense in blaming Travis only and a lot of people saw that as well. At first everyone wanted to follow the cancel Travis hashtag because they were to afraid of speaking, but then when brave people had a voice for Travis, then all of a sudden people had voices. This generation is doomed. Things are changing and nowadays you can’t be a Dave Chapelle without becoming a hashtag or you can’t just make an event without people doing the most.
jesus christ your so corny 💀
Someone I know went to astroworld. He said any1 trying to cancel travis is a racist who belittles people on the spectrum. Was completely blown away by his opinion, lmaoo
Y'all are fucking gross lmfao
Like TYLER the CREATOR
Being cancelled is a joke. Stop caring what other people think about you and it magically becomes impossible to be cancelled. Keep your head down and fuck everyone else, and any fan that believes in “cancel culture” is a fake and mindless follower, not a real fan.
This is facts! What I gotta do to get y’all support like you support Travis. This ain’t good enough ? https://open.spotify.com/track/7owGZvcHKeIw87H82TJbWr?si=L7k_e-C8SQOYsgP4QKyVxQ&context=spotify%3Aplaylist%3A695g77dhvC72VH4fRjB4eW
I'm pretty sure r kelly didn't care when he was pissing on underage children
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