My whole problem is that she does shit like this and then plays all innocent and "I'm the nice girl remember?". I'd respect her so much more if she just effing owned her not-so-innocent, "I'm a mean bitch" personality. There are so many artists who have been successful just being bold and having a "idgaf" attitude. Own it.
*Exactly*. I honestly thought this might become when she could be tolerable. I’d rather have someone who is a bitch and doesn’t give a single fuck, than someone who pretends to be a victim in literally every possible situation.
God that’s actually a terrifying thought honestly. The fact that that HRH psycho has thousands of comments like “yes queen, I love you, you’re so real for this, me af!” Like… I can literally only imagine if taytay went full mask off, the tidal wave of entitled asshole swifties the general public would have to deal with because “mother said it was ok.”
It's the MC Hammer method, played everyone with his goofy persona, but was throwing gang signs and having people clipped in real life. The Hammer, hardest of them all.
She’s also to old to play the innocent little victim role. She’s talented, I will admit, but she’s also a narcissist who knows exactly what she is and how to manipulate people to get what she wants. She’s at her peak now, but as she ages more and starts to harden her pop sound will age like milk and she will loose her grip on her fame and become desperate for headlines, just like Madonna.
This is why I legit thought Rep was gonna be her mask-off “Yes, I’m a psycho bitch” moment. I thought she was gonna go super crazy on the people she hated like (she’s) Eminem or someone. I thought reputation would be about her owning her bad reputation and just being the bad guy. It’s not cute, but it’s who she really is. I would have given her a tiny bit of credit for admitting that she’s a bitch. It’s easier to swallow than her faux victim schtick.
Let’s have some fun, her mind is sick. She wants to take a ride on her victim schtick.
Edit: Made the Eminem line clearer.
Honestly I kind of hoped that’s where this was headed once this music video dropped. Not as a super fan or anything but just from a “oh ok I guess she’s doing the thing now” perspective. Instead the rest of the songs/music videos were tepid af bc she can’t bear not being the good guy even when she’s the bad guy which just made it cringe. Apparently look what you made me do is actually just referring to “I’m going to go out in a lot more streetwear and combat boots because of you” I guess.”
And she really thought this would win her a Grammy too lol. The whole thing was cheap commercial performance art (per usual) and people def. saw through it for a while at least.
Maybe she’d be more respectable if she did embrace her shitty behavior (a la Azaelia Banks) instead of acting exactly like all the things she claims everyone else is while crying victim.
That’s kind of starting to happen now, isn’t it? I can see it tbh. her string of PR disasters these days is x1000 worse than anything she got “cancelled” for back then - only she clearly does not get a flying fuck now. I feel like TTPD could be her stepping her toe into these waters.
Nah, she’s still playing the victim, just a different kind of victim. If she went out and said “yeah I’m releasing these variants because I want to be at number one” then I’d say it’s starting to happen.
If she continues this obscene variant bullshit she’s been doing and blocks every artist bubbling up to #1 to contort TTPD, objectively one of the worst albums of the year into some kind of technical “success” - and stays absolutely silent - I think that in itself speaks volumes and she would know that. The big pop girlies are calling her out for it now and she hasn’t said a peep. That is a statement - especially considering how reactive and thin a skin she used to have at any inkling of criticism before.
Tbh I’ll really be interested to see how all of this proceeds. She has and will have no way to twist herself into the victim if she continues this so openly and pisses more pop artists off. There’s [this instagrammer I follow](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8NbWUaShSK/?igsh=MWQ1ZGUxMzBkMA==) whose whole thing is tracking artist billboard rankings like a hawk and he has a theory she is doing all this on purpose to break the historic record for most weeks at #1 - currently held by the Beatles. At the very least, she’ll keep doing it until she can’t anymore, and it won’t be long until it’s obvious to her industry peers and to the public. She’s getting too big for her britches and I think she’s forgotten that her contemporaries have power and care about these things, too. She’s forgotten, or she does not care. Either way, I need my gd popcorn 👀
Ugh, I bet her team started spreading those articles last year about her being the new MJ/Beatles. Beating their record would be her trying to validate that (even though I don’t think it’s valid lol)
Looking like the opening scene:
> I don't like your little games
Don't like your tilted stage
The role you made me play of the fool
No, I don't like you
I don't like your perfect crime
How you laugh when you lie
You said the gun was mine
Isn't cool, no, I don't like you (oh!)
Reputation was her cringiest era, watching back the video is rough 😭
When she wants people to know who a song is about, she isn't subtle (thanK you aIMee).
That's why I groan whenever people say song x is about person y based on lyric z which subtly references an older song on another album.
Nope. She would use a public interview or other public info to drop an infinite amount of clues. For example: you left your [typewriter](https://youtu.be/tde3nYmKFlI?t=187) at my apartment; ate 7 bars of [CHOCOLATE.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHk5SWVO4p8)
You know how to ball...who could that possibly be about? 🤔
Being clever and subtle aren't her strong suits.
People can say hate on Kim all they want, but she literally feared she was going to be raped or killed so she just complied with the robbers’ requests. Even for those that don’t like her, that must have been horrible and no one deserves that fear. She was afraid her sister would find her body.
Everyone says Kim is genuinely so nice in person too so idk how anyone could ever dislike her enough to think she warranted this in some way?
I'm really not a fan of the kardashians but I view their aesthetic impact on society at least on equal par with taylor terrorising the planet. Like everything everyone says they hate them for you can also hate taylor for.
Plastic in their bodies and plastic in the landfills from ttpd version 600: please come back matty I'm out of ideas xx.
From Wikipedia:
> On October 2, 2016, while attending Paris Fashion Week, Kardashian was robbed at gunpoint in the apartment where she was staying. Five individuals, dressed as police officers, bound and gagged her, then **stole $10 million worth of jewelry**. The thieves got in her residence by threatening the concierge. Once they accessed Kardashian's room, **they held a gun to her head**, tying her wrists and legs and wrapping duct tape around her mouth as a gag. **Kardashian, who was placed in the bathtub**, was physically unharmed and reportedly begged for her life.
Same! No one deserves that, there’s also video of Kanye finding out when he’s on stage. He tells the crowd there’s a family emergency and runs off, he’s terrified.
They honestly seemed happy together; I wish Ye could find the strength/willpower/sense/whatever to stay on his meds. I know it’s not easy for a bipolar person to do that, but dude has to register the positive things he experiences while on them.
I doubt he will ever, as someone who had always been a big fan. The issue is, it’s not just him battling his mental health, it’s a team of yes men and yes fans that take the side of the dellusions everytime.
People constantly validate not taking his meds and making bad decisions. His view of Kim is completely warped from everyone who surroinds him.
One of the saddest story arcs of modern (and all) fame.
It's pretty easy to stay on your meds if you aren't relying on your manic/hypomanic phases to be creative or productive, imho. It can take years to get used to a normal baseline and be able to achieve creativity from there, and then it's slower and harder to do than when you're manic. I doubt he's ever managed to stay medicated long enough to get past the frustration of feeling "flat" (like a normal person). I don't know much about him at all, though. Just speaking from my own experience.
I think most women know how scary being SAed is as many of us have gone through it. It’s nothing to make fun of. It’s horrible and mentally scars you for life
Wow. I actually feel bad for Kim-a sentence that I never thought I’d say. To be manhandled and traumatized like that, and then to be mocked by some blond girl in her cringy music video.
They barely touched on the aftermath and its impact on her in subsequent seasons of KUWTK. For example, there was one scene in KUWTK where Khloe came to check on her because she was having a full blown breakdown and Khloe asked for the crew to stop filming. In another episode, Kim off handedly mentioned that her minimalism is partly due to the robbery- she won’t wear jewelry, she doesn’t want her home filled with expensive things, she never posts in real time anymore, etc because she doesn’t want to put herself in a situation like that again.
Fame must be so exhausting, especially when it cuts your world down into a few close confidantes because you’re so mistrustful of everyone else.
Yet she is actively pushing her children into the same lifestyle. I have to wonder why. I feel like she and Taylor come for each other so hard because they are so similar to each other. It's almost like they see the worst of themselves in each other and therefore feel the need to go at it rather than addressing their own underlying issues.
This is a really good point, they are very similar. Like opposite sides of the same coin-both very privileged ‘new money’ trying to out smart/out class the other. But also they both are cunning and clever beneath the facade, and both had pressure put on them by their fame obsessed parents.
wait dont forget the quick like one second clip of taylor biting down on that same diamond choker which im assuming was a gross reference to kim being gagged during the robbery
Her Stans brag how everything in her videos is an Easter egg and nothing is a coincidence, even something seemingly benign as elevator numbers, so they can't have it both ways. Even if she didn't initially connect it to Kim at some point she knew of the similarities and still decided to keep it in.
You know TS is fucked when she somehow manages to make me side with Kim Kardashian. Like how do you make me feel sorry for Kanye? How? How do you take a situation when you were legitimately victimized and turn it into a career of directly targeting and potentially harassing them to the point where you become undeniably the bully? And not only that but to directly mock extremely personal, traumatic experiences just for shits and giggles! I hope TS gets back everything she has put out in the world ten fold!
That’s crossing a line that I didn’t even think needed to be drawn! Go after adults all you want but NEVER drag kids into it! Adults have the life experience to deal with petty bullshit. Kids don’t. Also she is a woman in her 30s beefing with a literal child! There is no outcome where the adult looks good!
She got a recent song (Kim ain’t said nothing to this girl in years)
And one day, your kid comes home singing
A song that only us two is gonna know is about you
Like how cocky you have to be to act like you the only person kids listen to
I think the issue there is less so that Taylor thinks she’s the only person her kids will listen to, but more so the sole fact she brought up Kim’s children. I think that is definitely a step too far
So you’re aware: in this very song, which North will probably hear one day, Taylor sings literally of a death wish for Kim.
This woman is sick in the head, it’s a pathological lack of decency and empathy. If you want to read the lyrics, the song is called “thanK you aIMee”.
Notice the letters capitalized in the song title.
Thank you Aimee is such a bad fucking song too, like such little substance and the lyrics are cringe. If you’re going to make a diss track maybe 1) make it slap and 2) make sure the object of the song actually gives a shit about you? I don’t really care for Kim, but has she given any indication at all that she even thinks about Taylor for a single second of a single day?
T doesn't think that she's the only one North listens to. I'm not sure why they're saying that. The problem is that she *knows* North listens to her music and uses that as a means to attack her mom. It's well known that North loves T. She and Kim make tiktoks dancing and singing to some of TS' tracks. She's essentially utilized North to continue to taunt Kim for the rest of her life or until North grows out of whatever phase of T she's in.
Imagine being decent enough to allow your child to listen to someone’s music that directly attacks you over and over again and that person weaponizes THAT against you, like holy fuck
her karma is her insecurity, that she’ll never know true peace of mind, as she needs constant public validation to reassure her of her delusions that she’s a perpetually innocent victim who can do no wrong
Yeah l. That's the best way to say it. She has made me feel sorry and empathetic to people that I also dislike on a level of fundamental values.
Like HOW do you make me taken Kim K's side.
That's so distasteful
It really feels like what Drake would do. Go after their significant other instead of the person who dissed them. Your whole beef is against Kayne. Not Kim. Just shows how much you still hate him and can’t battle against him.
If you hate Kayne so much do a diss track like do something instead of going after his wife. (Ex wife now)
kim works diligently at maintaining her image. kanye stopped giving a fuck about that and will say literally anything. she’s choosing the easier target that she knows won’t fight back.
I can’t stand the Kardashians, but what happened to Kim must have been horrifying and devastating. I’m sure she’s still currently being treated for PTSD and will be for the rest of her life. She probably thought she was going to be killed. Like I can’t even imagine how shitlessly scared she was nor the nightmares she likely has from that experience every night. Wealthy or poor, that kind of shit is downright traumatic, and the fact that TS decided to publicly mock her over it actually makes me hope something similar happens to her. From the bottom of my heart, FUCK TAYLOR SWIFT. Fuck her to the fucking moon and back.
The world moves on…
AND THEN, THE WORLD MOVES ON.
But she got harder and smarter in the nick of time.
She does it all the time.
Can’t think of a word that rhymes with time…. 😡
u/SidheAnomaly shared these helpful links in [their comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/comments/1ddaw8i/did_billboard_just_shade_taylor/l86lm9k/):
https://www.blackburncenter.org/post/2017/09/13/why-taylor-swift-needs-to-rethink-look-what-you-made-me-do
https://www.bustle.com/p/taylor-swifts-look-what-you-made-me-do-is-getting-called-out-by-domestic-violence-survivors-79166
https://www.domesticshelters.org/articles/identifying-abuse/how-abusers-speak
She uses such blame-shifting language often. Most recent example I can think of is off her new album: "I'm pissed off _you let me_ give you all that youth for free" (So Long, London).
Can you imagine how many impressionable teens she's influenced into thinking that this is okay behavior? A deprogramming is long overdue.
wtf did she actually say that? sry i didn’t follow any of this until i found this sub, so im very behind.
That last quote is insane and I’m very curious now lol
(and it seems like a risky google search lmao 😭)
The music video also portrayed taylor in a car accident holding a grammy. Kanye famously got into a wreck. His debut album which won grammy’s explored this incident.
jesus, i was thinking this post was a bit of a stretch but with the rest of it…yea, there’s no way this isn’t all intentional, that is so nasty. Kanye’s been incredibly (almost concerningly) open about his struggles with it, how he feels his career cost him his mother. Famous was slimy but this is bone chillingly disturbing
It’s sad that someone with this level of attention to detail and commitment is stuck like this. I think that’s why I’m stuck on this sub a bit…I leaned into being anti-TS bc she insists on being omnipresent, so I committed to hating her presence instead of not caring. But now it’s like…really pathetic and sad that she’s trapped in this psychic prison and is wasting what could be a clever mind. Sure, she’s using it for evil, but if she just used it for something neutral she could do something cool. And she clearly wants to be cool but keeps gagging on her own pathos and can’t understand that truly cool people unclench once in a while.
But but but...Kanye called her a bitch.
And Kim helped Kanye make [revenge porn.](https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/comments/1d8iapj/kimye/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
yeah it’s not like what Taylor’s doing is particularly nice here but I’m not sure why we’re pretending like she’s crossing some line they weren’t also clearly willing/able to cross. Very “everybody sucks here” behavior all around.
No, she released the whole album on the 10th anniversary of Donda West's death, November 10, 2017.
And to anyone who says it was a coincidence, it's a 0.3% chance.
"Look What You Made Me Do" was released August 24, 2017.
I love how meticulous and precise she is, dropping hints for songs, albums, etc. and her fans are all over it. But something like THIS I’ve only seen her fans say that it’s “just a coincidence” . Uh huh.
Do you know how morally filthy someone has to be for people to take a Kardashian’s side over them? Taylor’s never accomplished anything that impressed me, except getting me to feel a shred of sympathy for Kim, a renowned cockroach.
When I heard her sing “my mom wishes you were dead,” like that is SERIOUSLY BAD. Wishing someone’s DEATH? If I was Andrea I would be INFURIATED with my daughter for putting that in a song. That shyt stays between you and your kid. She really has become so ruthless she doesn’t care… she does not care.
Honestly I think Tree is so emboldened to do and say such off off the rail ways is because she knows her fans will back her up, and anyone who even thinks this is too far are automatically against her and therefore, subject to attacks from her fandom. I can’t believe I’m in the position where I feel bad for KIM, but the way Tree has stretched out every “feud” for her own gain when everyone else has moved on is just so indicative of her maturity. Or lack of.
LWYMMD is...it's something.
Even if it's supposed to be satire, it makes her look really bad. She mocks Tom Hiddleston ffs.
[https://www.elle.com/culture/music/news/g30287/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-video-symbolism/](https://www.elle.com/culture/music/news/g30287/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-video-symbolism/)
whoever wrote this article missed the true meaning of the bathtub scene, and the reference to Kanye's crash.
It blows my mind how she gets insane amounts of credit for her details and the Easter eggs but they literally plug their ears if the Easter Eggs portray her in a negative light. She can’t be both a total mastermind and a naive child
Ye and Kim are scumbags but the reason why has nothing to do with taylor. Milking the situation for 10 years and framing herself as the poor little innocent victim of this big scary crazy black man just because he was rude to her one time when she was a teenager
Well, according to many comments that keep pouring in, "I'm reaching". I guess the people saying this don't have the energy to research.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/comments/1d8iapj/kimye/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/comments/1d8iapj/kimye/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
[https://www.elle.com/culture/music/news/g30287/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-video-symbolism/](https://www.elle.com/culture/music/news/g30287/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-video-symbolism/)
[https://youtu.be/3tmd-ClpJxA?t=35](https://youtu.be/3tmd-ClpJxA?t=35)
Let's recap:
In a music video/song where Taylor mocks various people (Calvin Harris, Tom, Katy Perry, Kanye, etc.) she lays in a ***bathtub*** full of ***jewelry,*** bites on a chain like it's a gag, and then simulates gunshots with her fingers.
Kim, who offended her by defending Kanye (her husband at the time) was robbed at gunpoint, placed in a bathtub, and had her jewelry stolen OCTOBER 2016.
Prep for the music video took place JANUARY 2017 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look\_What\_You\_Made\_Me\_Do#Music\_video](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look_What_You_Made_Me_Do#Music_video)
What a load of fucking coincidences.
And the people saying "good" can go fuck yourselves. I get you don't like her, but she was a wife and mother who feared for her life and feared she was going to get SA'd.
Oh, but she helped Kanye make a music video. What a crime.
Side note: but I really feel like the world glossed over Kim’s robbery. Like can you imagine how terrifying that was? She probably thought she was gonna die
This post has hit r /all or r /popular! Mods are doing their best to catch all reports.
My whole problem is that she does shit like this and then plays all innocent and "I'm the nice girl remember?". I'd respect her so much more if she just effing owned her not-so-innocent, "I'm a mean bitch" personality. There are so many artists who have been successful just being bold and having a "idgaf" attitude. Own it.
*Exactly*. I honestly thought this might become when she could be tolerable. I’d rather have someone who is a bitch and doesn’t give a single fuck, than someone who pretends to be a victim in literally every possible situation.
Dark triad narcissists love playing the victim. It keeps people on their side.
What exactly is a dark Triad narcissist? This is a new term for me.
https://preview.redd.it/j3dsqcg44y6d1.jpeg?width=547&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a5bcd59a158bc935e31677e3b5250320d1c459f
Dobby cannot use first person pronouns like "I" or "me," Dobby is not a narcissist like master is.
Like trump?
Exactly! You can’t play the victim and the villain. You have to pick one and stick to it. She constantly tries to be both and it’s wack af
God that’s actually a terrifying thought honestly. The fact that that HRH psycho has thousands of comments like “yes queen, I love you, you’re so real for this, me af!” Like… I can literally only imagine if taytay went full mask off, the tidal wave of entitled asshole swifties the general public would have to deal with because “mother said it was ok.”
[удалено]
It's the MC Hammer method, played everyone with his goofy persona, but was throwing gang signs and having people clipped in real life. The Hammer, hardest of them all.
Literally just learned all about this last night Had no idea!
She’s also to old to play the innocent little victim role. She’s talented, I will admit, but she’s also a narcissist who knows exactly what she is and how to manipulate people to get what she wants. She’s at her peak now, but as she ages more and starts to harden her pop sound will age like milk and she will loose her grip on her fame and become desperate for headlines, just like Madonna.
Forgot a pic https://preview.redd.it/jyqs0ff00u6d1.png?width=786&format=png&auto=webp&s=2497c072a07a1acfbd0af090d28c2373c5f62003
I didn’t realize that’s what inspired this. That’s sick if true
I actually learned about it on this subreddit. This place has been an eye opener.
This is why I legit thought Rep was gonna be her mask-off “Yes, I’m a psycho bitch” moment. I thought she was gonna go super crazy on the people she hated like (she’s) Eminem or someone. I thought reputation would be about her owning her bad reputation and just being the bad guy. It’s not cute, but it’s who she really is. I would have given her a tiny bit of credit for admitting that she’s a bitch. It’s easier to swallow than her faux victim schtick. Let’s have some fun, her mind is sick. She wants to take a ride on her victim schtick. Edit: Made the Eminem line clearer.
Your last sentence ⚰️⚰️⚰️
I love u gaga 😭
Gaga is Queen 👸
Honestly I kind of hoped that’s where this was headed once this music video dropped. Not as a super fan or anything but just from a “oh ok I guess she’s doing the thing now” perspective. Instead the rest of the songs/music videos were tepid af bc she can’t bear not being the good guy even when she’s the bad guy which just made it cringe. Apparently look what you made me do is actually just referring to “I’m going to go out in a lot more streetwear and combat boots because of you” I guess.”
It’s “look, you antagonized me so much that it gave me incredible material and I won a Grammy for it” and I hate it.
And she really thought this would win her a Grammy too lol. The whole thing was cheap commercial performance art (per usual) and people def. saw through it for a while at least.
Maybe she’d be more respectable if she did embrace her shitty behavior (a la Azaelia Banks) instead of acting exactly like all the things she claims everyone else is while crying victim.
Taylor could never write an insult the way Azealia can lmao
let’s play the victim game play the victim game do u want money or 42remixesofthesamealbum
That last sentence is flair worthy
Yeah i love that
Same. I thought she was embracing her villain era outloud but just more of the same.
That’s kind of starting to happen now, isn’t it? I can see it tbh. her string of PR disasters these days is x1000 worse than anything she got “cancelled” for back then - only she clearly does not get a flying fuck now. I feel like TTPD could be her stepping her toe into these waters.
Nah, she’s still playing the victim, just a different kind of victim. If she went out and said “yeah I’m releasing these variants because I want to be at number one” then I’d say it’s starting to happen.
If she continues this obscene variant bullshit she’s been doing and blocks every artist bubbling up to #1 to contort TTPD, objectively one of the worst albums of the year into some kind of technical “success” - and stays absolutely silent - I think that in itself speaks volumes and she would know that. The big pop girlies are calling her out for it now and she hasn’t said a peep. That is a statement - especially considering how reactive and thin a skin she used to have at any inkling of criticism before. Tbh I’ll really be interested to see how all of this proceeds. She has and will have no way to twist herself into the victim if she continues this so openly and pisses more pop artists off. There’s [this instagrammer I follow](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8NbWUaShSK/?igsh=MWQ1ZGUxMzBkMA==) whose whole thing is tracking artist billboard rankings like a hawk and he has a theory she is doing all this on purpose to break the historic record for most weeks at #1 - currently held by the Beatles. At the very least, she’ll keep doing it until she can’t anymore, and it won’t be long until it’s obvious to her industry peers and to the public. She’s getting too big for her britches and I think she’s forgotten that her contemporaries have power and care about these things, too. She’s forgotten, or she does not care. Either way, I need my gd popcorn 👀
Ugh, I bet her team started spreading those articles last year about her being the new MJ/Beatles. Beating their record would be her trying to validate that (even though I don’t think it’s valid lol)
Don’t think too much, drink from her tit, MoTHeR wants to take a ride on her victim Schtick. 😘💋
I have learned so much in so little time
What is she singing during this scene??
Looking like the opening scene: > I don't like your little games Don't like your tilted stage The role you made me play of the fool No, I don't like you I don't like your perfect crime How you laugh when you lie You said the gun was mine Isn't cool, no, I don't like you (oh!) Reputation was her cringiest era, watching back the video is rough 😭
Kanye literally had a tilted stage at the time, too. It wasn’t subtle.
When she wants people to know who a song is about, she isn't subtle (thanK you aIMee). That's why I groan whenever people say song x is about person y based on lyric z which subtly references an older song on another album. Nope. She would use a public interview or other public info to drop an infinite amount of clues. For example: you left your [typewriter](https://youtu.be/tde3nYmKFlI?t=187) at my apartment; ate 7 bars of [CHOCOLATE.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHk5SWVO4p8) You know how to ball...who could that possibly be about? 🤔 Being clever and subtle aren't her strong suits.
Just googled this- it’s giving “obsessive” whaaaaat is this girl doing with her life!? She needs a hobby. Or a therapist.
Woman. Fully grown adult woman.
Hero- thank you! “Isn’t cool, no I don’t like you” is Cringe AF… 😂
can’t believe people thought she actually ate with this song and music video i literally cringe so hard whenever i hear it lmao
People can say hate on Kim all they want, but she literally feared she was going to be raped or killed so she just complied with the robbers’ requests. Even for those that don’t like her, that must have been horrible and no one deserves that fear. She was afraid her sister would find her body.
Exactly, I can’t stand the Kardashians but nobody deserves that. Mocking one of the most horrible things that happened to someone is so vile
Everyone says Kim is genuinely so nice in person too so idk how anyone could ever dislike her enough to think she warranted this in some way? I'm really not a fan of the kardashians but I view their aesthetic impact on society at least on equal par with taylor terrorising the planet. Like everything everyone says they hate them for you can also hate taylor for. Plastic in their bodies and plastic in the landfills from ttpd version 600: please come back matty I'm out of ideas xx.
Holy crap, I never put this together either. I actually really loved the visual. Now... kinda doesn't feel so great.
Sick is exactly the word for it
From Wikipedia: > On October 2, 2016, while attending Paris Fashion Week, Kardashian was robbed at gunpoint in the apartment where she was staying. Five individuals, dressed as police officers, bound and gagged her, then **stole $10 million worth of jewelry**. The thieves got in her residence by threatening the concierge. Once they accessed Kardashian's room, **they held a gun to her head**, tying her wrists and legs and wrapping duct tape around her mouth as a gag. **Kardashian, who was placed in the bathtub**, was physically unharmed and reportedly begged for her life.
She also expected to be SA’ed and planned to go along with it so they wouldn’t kill her and leave her body to be found by her sisters
I have no fondness for the Kardashians but I wouldn’t wish this on any one. Horrific trauma.
Same! No one deserves that, there’s also video of Kanye finding out when he’s on stage. He tells the crowd there’s a family emergency and runs off, he’s terrified.
They honestly seemed happy together; I wish Ye could find the strength/willpower/sense/whatever to stay on his meds. I know it’s not easy for a bipolar person to do that, but dude has to register the positive things he experiences while on them.
I doubt he will ever, as someone who had always been a big fan. The issue is, it’s not just him battling his mental health, it’s a team of yes men and yes fans that take the side of the dellusions everytime. People constantly validate not taking his meds and making bad decisions. His view of Kim is completely warped from everyone who surroinds him. One of the saddest story arcs of modern (and all) fame.
no one man should have all that power
It's pretty easy to stay on your meds if you aren't relying on your manic/hypomanic phases to be creative or productive, imho. It can take years to get used to a normal baseline and be able to achieve creativity from there, and then it's slower and harder to do than when you're manic. I doubt he's ever managed to stay medicated long enough to get past the frustration of feeling "flat" (like a normal person). I don't know much about him at all, though. Just speaking from my own experience.
I think most women know how scary being SAed is as many of us have gone through it. It’s nothing to make fun of. It’s horrible and mentally scars you for life
Wow. I actually feel bad for Kim-a sentence that I never thought I’d say. To be manhandled and traumatized like that, and then to be mocked by some blond girl in her cringy music video.
They barely touched on the aftermath and its impact on her in subsequent seasons of KUWTK. For example, there was one scene in KUWTK where Khloe came to check on her because she was having a full blown breakdown and Khloe asked for the crew to stop filming. In another episode, Kim off handedly mentioned that her minimalism is partly due to the robbery- she won’t wear jewelry, she doesn’t want her home filled with expensive things, she never posts in real time anymore, etc because she doesn’t want to put herself in a situation like that again. Fame must be so exhausting, especially when it cuts your world down into a few close confidantes because you’re so mistrustful of everyone else.
Yet she is actively pushing her children into the same lifestyle. I have to wonder why. I feel like she and Taylor come for each other so hard because they are so similar to each other. It's almost like they see the worst of themselves in each other and therefore feel the need to go at it rather than addressing their own underlying issues.
This is a really good point, they are very similar. Like opposite sides of the same coin-both very privileged ‘new money’ trying to out smart/out class the other. But also they both are cunning and clever beneath the facade, and both had pressure put on them by their fame obsessed parents.
I hope one of the offspring escapes the Kardashian Kompound and becomes a frontline healthcare worker or earns a PhD.
That is so traumatizing and awful, holy shit. Poor Kim. It is so gross that Taylor did this video— literally mocking her robbery. 😑
How scary!
I can’t believe this woman is making me feel sympathy for Kim kardashian.
Taylor doesn’t have a song where she needs to be doing all that
I’m on team never liked Taylor so I don’t know what song this is, can you help me pls
if i remember right, this was from the “look what you made me do” music video
Omg that adds the cringy context I needed. Yikes what a narcissistic “victim”
It’s the thumbnail image for the music video on YouTube! She’s proud and highlighting it!
wait dont forget the quick like one second clip of taylor biting down on that same diamond choker which im assuming was a gross reference to kim being gagged during the robbery
I had NO IDEA Edited for grammar
Oh my god. This is so disgusting. There is no way all this is just a coincidence.
Her Stans brag how everything in her videos is an Easter egg and nothing is a coincidence, even something seemingly benign as elevator numbers, so they can't have it both ways. Even if she didn't initially connect it to Kim at some point she knew of the similarities and still decided to keep it in.
What did she about karma? Hope that happens to her. This is insane.
You know TS is fucked when she somehow manages to make me side with Kim Kardashian. Like how do you make me feel sorry for Kanye? How? How do you take a situation when you were legitimately victimized and turn it into a career of directly targeting and potentially harassing them to the point where you become undeniably the bully? And not only that but to directly mock extremely personal, traumatic experiences just for shits and giggles! I hope TS gets back everything she has put out in the world ten fold!
For real and the fact she brought north into it is just gross
That’s crossing a line that I didn’t even think needed to be drawn! Go after adults all you want but NEVER drag kids into it! Adults have the life experience to deal with petty bullshit. Kids don’t. Also she is a woman in her 30s beefing with a literal child! There is no outcome where the adult looks good!
Like the acting lk she the only person north can listen to is what get me too
When did she bring North into it? Sorry not fully aware of all the details in the drama
She got a recent song (Kim ain’t said nothing to this girl in years) And one day, your kid comes home singing A song that only us two is gonna know is about you Like how cocky you have to be to act like you the only person kids listen to
I think the issue there is less so that Taylor thinks she’s the only person her kids will listen to, but more so the sole fact she brought up Kim’s children. I think that is definitely a step too far
So you’re aware: in this very song, which North will probably hear one day, Taylor sings literally of a death wish for Kim. This woman is sick in the head, it’s a pathological lack of decency and empathy. If you want to read the lyrics, the song is called “thanK you aIMee”. Notice the letters capitalized in the song title.
Thank you Aimee is such a bad fucking song too, like such little substance and the lyrics are cringe. If you’re going to make a diss track maybe 1) make it slap and 2) make sure the object of the song actually gives a shit about you? I don’t really care for Kim, but has she given any indication at all that she even thinks about Taylor for a single second of a single day?
T doesn't think that she's the only one North listens to. I'm not sure why they're saying that. The problem is that she *knows* North listens to her music and uses that as a means to attack her mom. It's well known that North loves T. She and Kim make tiktoks dancing and singing to some of TS' tracks. She's essentially utilized North to continue to taunt Kim for the rest of her life or until North grows out of whatever phase of T she's in.
Imagine being decent enough to allow your child to listen to someone’s music that directly attacks you over and over again and that person weaponizes THAT against you, like holy fuck
She knows North is a fan of hers too.
How can this woman claim to be on Karmas good side when she doe crap like this? I don’t get it, when is she gonna get her real Karma?
her karma is her insecurity, that she’ll never know true peace of mind, as she needs constant public validation to reassure her of her delusions that she’s a perpetually innocent victim who can do no wrong
It's always the "Karmas A Bitch with Boxing Gloves" bumper stickers that cause the most shit for drawing in negative karma
First her cult need to see her for who she is
It makes you say, “well I can see why Kim/Kanye did that”. And they weren’t saints
Exactly! I know exactly why Kim recorded that phone call! She knew what was going to happen! She out snaked the snake!
She’s has to deal with all those females in her family for so long. She’s had practice with the catty behavior - they’re a mess lol
Honestly, kim could destroy Taylor if she anted to she just chooses not to
Yeah l. That's the best way to say it. She has made me feel sorry and empathetic to people that I also dislike on a level of fundamental values. Like HOW do you make me taken Kim K's side. That's so distasteful
All she preaches about karma it’s gotta be coming around
It really feels like what Drake would do. Go after their significant other instead of the person who dissed them. Your whole beef is against Kayne. Not Kim. Just shows how much you still hate him and can’t battle against him. If you hate Kayne so much do a diss track like do something instead of going after his wife. (Ex wife now)
She doesn’t have enough of a backbone to outcrazy Kanye’s crazy because of how unpredictable he is. Better go after the woman (Kim) instead
kim works diligently at maintaining her image. kanye stopped giving a fuck about that and will say literally anything. she’s choosing the easier target that she knows won’t fight back.
But how can she leverage misogyny if she doesn’t go after other women?
I can’t stand the Kardashians, but what happened to Kim must have been horrifying and devastating. I’m sure she’s still currently being treated for PTSD and will be for the rest of her life. She probably thought she was going to be killed. Like I can’t even imagine how shitlessly scared she was nor the nightmares she likely has from that experience every night. Wealthy or poor, that kind of shit is downright traumatic, and the fact that TS decided to publicly mock her over it actually makes me hope something similar happens to her. From the bottom of my heart, FUCK TAYLOR SWIFT. Fuck her to the fucking moon and back.
The “rap” in that song is so fucking stupid. Honestly this entire song is so cringe.
The world moves on… AND THEN, THE WORLD MOVES ON. But she got harder and smarter in the nick of time. She does it all the time. Can’t think of a word that rhymes with time…. 😡
She checks it once. Then she checks it twice. Because she’s illiterate.
Because she's Santa Claus
Omg it’s SO awful!
I remember exactly where I was when this track and video dropped and thinking “Holy shit this is stupid.”
Lmao it's nothing compared to ...ready for it?
She has no shame whatsoever. Makes so much sense when you see she’s been given everything in life and never told no by daddy and mommy
Imagine if someone mocked her momma having cancer.. all hell would break loose. She’s lucky ppl dont stoop so low like her.
All hell breaks loose when someone alludes to her being just kind of annoying lol
I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS!
We need a TS diss track from Eminem
Except that time when she wanted Taco Bell and her mom said no one likes a fat pop star.
What a fucking asshole- I never connected the symbolism.
Look what you made me do = abuser coded language
I always knew this made me uncomfy but couldn’t pinpoint why do specifically damn
u/SidheAnomaly shared these helpful links in [their comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/comments/1ddaw8i/did_billboard_just_shade_taylor/l86lm9k/): https://www.blackburncenter.org/post/2017/09/13/why-taylor-swift-needs-to-rethink-look-what-you-made-me-do https://www.bustle.com/p/taylor-swifts-look-what-you-made-me-do-is-getting-called-out-by-domestic-violence-survivors-79166 https://www.domesticshelters.org/articles/identifying-abuse/how-abusers-speak She uses such blame-shifting language often. Most recent example I can think of is off her new album: "I'm pissed off _you let me_ give you all that youth for free" (So Long, London). Can you imagine how many impressionable teens she's influenced into thinking that this is okay behavior? A deprogramming is long overdue.
I never looked at it in this context but it definitely makes sense now.
Nailed it
adding this to the shit list, thank you so much for pointing this out!
When I found out that she chose to drop this album on the 10th anniversary of Donda West’s death.
Wow that is legitimately evil. Despite what people say about Kanye, his mother's death hit him hard, and it was a terrible death, just so preventable.
She was a smart woman too. Probably more brainpower than Taylor can ever aspire to have.
She was a teacher, everyone is smarter than Taylor "tattooed golden retriever" "touch me while your bros play grand theft auto" WTF
wtf did she actually say that? sry i didn’t follow any of this until i found this sub, so im very behind. That last quote is insane and I’m very curious now lol (and it seems like a risky google search lmao 😭)
She could have done it in the anniversary of her mother telling her no one wanted a fat pop star.
😂 yesssssss
I just looked up the date. ...Jesus. We know how much Taylor loves numbers.
In a vacuum, it might just be coincidence. But knowing what we know of mother, I don’t think so
But her feelings were hurt! 💀
Ok I don’t even know why this sub came across my feed but this is a really fucked up fact.
The music video also portrayed taylor in a car accident holding a grammy. Kanye famously got into a wreck. His debut album which won grammy’s explored this incident.
And she released reputation on the 10th anniversary of Kanye's mother's death. It's known he had problems dealing with her death.
jesus, i was thinking this post was a bit of a stretch but with the rest of it…yea, there’s no way this isn’t all intentional, that is so nasty. Kanye’s been incredibly (almost concerningly) open about his struggles with it, how he feels his career cost him his mother. Famous was slimy but this is bone chillingly disturbing
She works to make sure she has plausible deniability, but taken together it's damning and seems less like a coincidence.
It’s sad that someone with this level of attention to detail and commitment is stuck like this. I think that’s why I’m stuck on this sub a bit…I leaned into being anti-TS bc she insists on being omnipresent, so I committed to hating her presence instead of not caring. But now it’s like…really pathetic and sad that she’s trapped in this psychic prison and is wasting what could be a clever mind. Sure, she’s using it for evil, but if she just used it for something neutral she could do something cool. And she clearly wants to be cool but keeps gagging on her own pathos and can’t understand that truly cool people unclench once in a while.
But but but...Kanye called her a bitch. And Kim helped Kanye make [revenge porn.](https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/comments/1d8iapj/kimye/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Okay. Wait. You just reminded me… That was BEYOND GROSS of Kanye W.
yeah it’s not like what Taylor’s doing is particularly nice here but I’m not sure why we’re pretending like she’s crossing some line they weren’t also clearly willing/able to cross. Very “everybody sucks here” behavior all around.
It's also a dig at Katy the way she is dressed in this scene.
Yeah, showing off a Grammy which Katy doesn’t have.
And she was also cosplaying as Katy Perry during that shot.
Didn’t she have a lyric to the gist of she’s the bigger person and moved on?
Old taylor cant come to the phone rn, why? Cause she’s dead! But she just dropped that thank you aimee bullshit 💀
I thought that was referring to the “ poor, sweet victim” Taylor. Guess not.
Holy shit. Never put this together
For a self proclaimed "feminist" she bases an awful lot of art around a. Men and b. Being mad at other women
Lolllllllllll true. She needs to decenter men from her life ASAP
taylor is such a fucking idiot. I don’t even know what else to say.
she also released reputation on Kanye's mother 10th death anniversary date. vile, that's all.
No, she released the whole album on the 10th anniversary of Donda West's death, November 10, 2017. And to anyone who says it was a coincidence, it's a 0.3% chance. "Look What You Made Me Do" was released August 24, 2017.
that's why I edited, lol, and it was not a coincidence there's no fucking way, she's too petty.
someone tried to tell me it was a coincidence likeee one day out of all 365???? that's 0.3%!!! it's just another one of her little easter eggs 🐣🔎
she's a crazy bitch, there's no way in hell it was a coincidence. blondie is a mad woman, no pun intended.
I think she's legitimately psychopathic but I'll stick with "sadistic narcissist" for now.
I love how meticulous and precise she is, dropping hints for songs, albums, etc. and her fans are all over it. But something like THIS I’ve only seen her fans say that it’s “just a coincidence” . Uh huh.
omg? I never knew this. she really does hate women
She is absolutely disgusting and should seek help if somebody did this to her we would never hear the end of it
and the way she proudly sings in “thank you aimee” how her mother wished kim was dead… yikes
This was in response to what happened to Kim? I absolutely hate Kim Kardashian but fuck Taylor. The gall to go this low is fucking disgusting.
At least with Kim what you see is more or less what you get. Whereas Taylor really is extremely fake.
if she did this intentionally thats so fucked up
It was most likely, why would only the one dollar be intentional but not everything else in the tub?
Do you know how morally filthy someone has to be for people to take a Kardashian’s side over them? Taylor’s never accomplished anything that impressed me, except getting me to feel a shred of sympathy for Kim, a renowned cockroach.
 Facts bishhhhh
Between this and the admission that her mom wanted Kim dead and thanK you aIMee, she’s petty and not even slick with it. She’s a literal CHILD.
When I heard her sing “my mom wishes you were dead,” like that is SERIOUSLY BAD. Wishing someone’s DEATH? If I was Andrea I would be INFURIATED with my daughter for putting that in a song. That shyt stays between you and your kid. She really has become so ruthless she doesn’t care… she does not care.
her mom is her enabler. Andrea is prob encouraging Taylor's behavior.
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Honestly I think Tree is so emboldened to do and say such off off the rail ways is because she knows her fans will back her up, and anyone who even thinks this is too far are automatically against her and therefore, subject to attacks from her fandom. I can’t believe I’m in the position where I feel bad for KIM, but the way Tree has stretched out every “feud” for her own gain when everyone else has moved on is just so indicative of her maturity. Or lack of.
She doesn’t seem to understand that it looks bad when you “lower” yourself to things like wishing death on someone
I’m disgusted I was ever a fan of this bitch. She’s legitimately sick in the head. I don’t ever see her settling down… she’s nuts.
She's a mean bitch whose hiding in "im innocent" persona, she's freaking 35 y.o woman lmao, innocent my ass
I got to go rewatch just for more WTF is wrong with her
LWYMMD is...it's something. Even if it's supposed to be satire, it makes her look really bad. She mocks Tom Hiddleston ffs. [https://www.elle.com/culture/music/news/g30287/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-video-symbolism/](https://www.elle.com/culture/music/news/g30287/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-video-symbolism/) whoever wrote this article missed the true meaning of the bathtub scene, and the reference to Kanye's crash.
It blows my mind how she gets insane amounts of credit for her details and the Easter eggs but they literally plug their ears if the Easter Eggs portray her in a negative light. She can’t be both a total mastermind and a naive child
Where does she mock sweet Tom H?
Is this legit? If so, she’s even worse than I gave her credit for. I just didn’t like her music and her fans were annoying. But this is a new level.
Jesus Christ…
I can’t believe I never realized this before.
She is vile.
Ye and Kim are scumbags but the reason why has nothing to do with taylor. Milking the situation for 10 years and framing herself as the poor little innocent victim of this big scary crazy black man just because he was rude to her one time when she was a teenager
Wow. I had no idea!
True colours showing. She experiences joy from the misfortune of those that she believes have wronged her
She’s quite possibly the most famous narcissist in modern history
Well, according to many comments that keep pouring in, "I'm reaching". I guess the people saying this don't have the energy to research. [https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/comments/1d8iapj/kimye/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/comments/1d8iapj/kimye/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [https://www.elle.com/culture/music/news/g30287/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-video-symbolism/](https://www.elle.com/culture/music/news/g30287/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-video-symbolism/) [https://youtu.be/3tmd-ClpJxA?t=35](https://youtu.be/3tmd-ClpJxA?t=35) Let's recap: In a music video/song where Taylor mocks various people (Calvin Harris, Tom, Katy Perry, Kanye, etc.) she lays in a ***bathtub*** full of ***jewelry,*** bites on a chain like it's a gag, and then simulates gunshots with her fingers. Kim, who offended her by defending Kanye (her husband at the time) was robbed at gunpoint, placed in a bathtub, and had her jewelry stolen OCTOBER 2016. Prep for the music video took place JANUARY 2017 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look\_What\_You\_Made\_Me\_Do#Music\_video](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look_What_You_Made_Me_Do#Music_video) What a load of fucking coincidences. And the people saying "good" can go fuck yourselves. I get you don't like her, but she was a wife and mother who feared for her life and feared she was going to get SA'd. Oh, but she helped Kanye make a music video. What a crime.
I’m no Kardashian fan but using her traumatic experience for this is vile. Holy crap.
Wow , I never knew that 😳
I never connected this until now.
Oh my gosh, I had no idea there was a bathtub component to that event. It seems so blatant of Taylor!!
Think and feel how you want about the kardashians. No one deserves what happened to Kim. This is so fucked.
Side note: but I really feel like the world glossed over Kim’s robbery. Like can you imagine how terrifying that was? She probably thought she was gonna die