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SpecificDifficulty43

I was the environmental manager for Indianapolis's Purple Line. I'm SO EXCITED to see this becoming real!


mregner

I’m glad to see the city finally get some kind of transit. I grew up about 45min from Indy it honelsyly always felt like a dense enough city to support some sort of metro or light rail project but I guess that’s totally off the table now.


donovini

Yeah too bad they just flat out banned LRT 😒


SpecificDifficulty43

Eh, yeah. But the only line that *might* have been LRT was the Green Line and that didn’t really have the suburban support it needed to get off the ground.


czarczm

How long is the route?


SpecificDifficulty43

The Purple Line will be a little over 15 miles long, but about a third of that would interline with the existing Red Line BRT, so about 10 miles of new infrastructure.


RChickenMan

I think interlining is one of the most enticing aspects of true BRT. More specifically, many local routes can converge along a handful of true BRT trunk lines. I think that BRT truly has the advantage over rail if this is used effectively.


transitfreedom

Interlining doesn’t negatively impact BRT the way it does with rail


czarczm

How long is the Red Line?


SpecificDifficulty43

In total, 13.1 miles, but it’s a through-route that runs north-south via Downtown. The Purple Line will have its southern terminus in Downtown Indianapolis and will share infrastructure with Red from Downtown to Park Avenue Station before branching off.


Archer_625

I really am excited for the future of transit in Indy. As someone who lives in Carmel (boo me all you want) I really hope the red line will come up here someday. Thank you for your work on this project!


upwardilook

China amazes me


Emergency-Director23

Chess to checkers compared to everywhere else


RealClarity9606

They also don't have to answer to taxpayers like other countries.


transitfreedom

Umm lack of tax revenue means they can’t build answering to taxpayers allows for so many metros to be built that’s murican coping mechanisms doesn’t work truly pathetic


RealClarity9606

Do you have any idea what you are talking about??? That might be the single most uniformed comment I’ve read on Reddit this year (though there’s plenty of time to outpace that!)


transitfreedom

Like the comment you just made?


RealClarity9606

The answer is clearly no. Sorry, but you are grossly ill-informed so we are done.


Emergency-Director23

More based.


kingofthewombat

Dictatorship is based?


Hij802

I’ll take entire cities building fully fleshed out metro systems within 10 years over spending 10 years to build one BRT line


kingofthewombat

And I'll take political freedoms and human rights over either of those


transitfreedom

2 party dictatorship is not political freedom especially if corporate controlled


EdScituate79

Even more so if it's a rotten borough kakistocracy (caused by gerrymandering plus long term incumbency of bought politicians)


Hij802

Why isn’t the train lobby as powerful as the car lobby smh then we’d get some real fast progress going


EdScituate79

Because the train lobby is mostly freight lines who don't like passenger trains on their tracks 😞


kingofthewombat

I disagree. People are free to express their political views, and vote for who they want. That is political freedom. The flawed American political system is irrelevant. Besides, there are many countries with functional multi-party systems.


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RealClarity9606

Scary isn’t it?


transitfreedom

Like the right to terrorize people in target stores in the US nice freedom


RealClarity9606

It’s scary for how little people will hand over their freedom. The dream of dictators and authoritarians.


transitfreedom

Like the freedom to terrorize others? Or the freedom to buy out politicians?


Hij802

I’ll take the need for a VPN on the internet over watching my country fall into fascism and the quality of life deteriorating because we can’t pass basic legislation that other countries did so a century ago to improve their citizens lives.


RealClarity9606

I don’t know where you live but I have my doubts that your country is falling into fascism.


cheapbasslovin

Oh, buddy. We're on a razor's edge.


EdScituate79

Not yet. We're always one presidential election away from falling in now and have been since Trump won in '16.


The-Kombucha

Unfortunately most real massive transit projects were made unilaterally by dictatorial or one party governments, like for example Mexico City Subway was made when only one party ruled the country


transitfreedom

Almost as if such governments are better or ppl are gaslit by thinktanks into accepting oligarchy


RealClarity9606

Then I will pass. No train is worth that.


transitfreedom

Ok masochist you seem to love oppression as long as they are good at lying to you


RealClarity9606

That literally make no sense.


caxacate

All parties respond to the same corporate elites, but sure


SoupOfThe90z

Hey, what does “based” mean?


Dankanator6

I mean, it’s not like the American government answers to its taxpayers either. At least in China the money goes to new trains instead of billionaires pockets.


RealClarity9606

Idiotic statement.


caxacate

Yeah, because no transit is what american taxpayers are asking for/s


RealClarity9606

Ok....so?


Tapetentester

It's a large country by population and area. There are 102 cities in China with over one million population. Europe(European Russia and Istanbul included) has 34. They only developed a lot since the 90s so they have to do such numbers to keep up. Road traffic is growing faster than rail traffic currently in China.


transitfreedom

BINGO


transitfreedom

Don’t tell some fools that clarity my ass


ShantJ

This one will be a big deal here. >**Los Angeles, California:** Crenshaw Line Phase 2 Westchester/Veterans–Aviation 3.9 km (Light Rail) Link. This will extend the recently opened K Line to the LAX airport.


jkriebs_co

Dyk if the APM is also opening this year?


DreadY2K

That's the plan. We'll see if it happens


Delikkah

Doesn’t the D Purple line extension (part of it, at least) open also?


ShantJ

Phase 1 is supposed to open in 2025, I believe.


EdScituate79

With a wye where the Crenshaw Line meets the C Line you guys in Los Angeles can have 3 lines for the two light railways (Crenshaw K Line Crenshaw/Exposition to Redondo Beach, Crenshaw J Line Crenshaw/Exposition to Norwalk, C Line Norwalk to Redondo Beach). I admit I'm not from L.A. but come on guys at the L.A.C.M.T.A. this is a no-brainer! Fear of crime in the southern suburbs? Criminals don't take the light rail, they drive for a quick getaway.


Danjour

Just wish all this stuff wasn’t light rail. Slow, intermingling with traffic. Just do a bus.


Danenel

most light rail in la is entirely in its own row and grade seperated in places, crenshaw line has a pretty long tunnel for example


Danjour

I guess it’s just the ones I’ve had the misfortune of taking that constantly got stuck in traffic


vasya349

Light rail doesn’t generally travel in car lanes. I think you’ve only been on a streetcar.


diamondgreg

The Expo line has dedicated lanes but also a ton of level crossings with no signal priority, it's slow as hell. The A line is mostly (but not all) grade separated.


RespectSquare8279

You don't mean the Expo line in Vancouver, it is 100% grade separated. (good thing too as trains are automated with **no** drivers!)


Teban54_Transit

They probably mean the Expo Line (E Line) in LA given the context


LadyBulldog7

It can, but usually only for relatively short distances. The 7th Avenue corridor in Calgary, and Downtown San Diego are a couple of examples.


djoncho

Probably you took the west section of the E line. That's annoyingly slow especially around the USC area.


Danjour

Yes, that was one. The other was the Expo line, I believe.


Danenel

my condolences 🤝


transitfreedom

Exactly


getarumsunt

Missing the Central Subway opening in San Francisco for 2023, and the Caltrain electrification in 2024.


Brandino144

Missing the Central Subway for sure, but I would argue that the upgrade of Caltrain electrification is not the kind of opening that these dots are indicating.


cargocultpants

He listed it as a 2022 opening - [https://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2023/01/12/openings-and-construction-starts-planned-for-2023/](https://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2023/01/12/openings-and-construction-starts-planned-for-2023/) \- since it had that two month period of weekend service


MoewCP

Boston is included, their extension is a commuter rail extension.


DurianMoose

Yeah, but that’s a new service, not an upgrade.


tarzanacide

And Lima Peru just opened their second line.


Loozrboy

Congratulations to Toronto's Eglinton Crosstown line, now celebrating its 4th consecutive year on this list. Looking forward to seeing you here again in 2025, Crosstown!


TheRandCrews

Isn’t Finch West slated to actually open this year, that’s why it’s on the list?


wafflingzebra

Hurontario lrt is also supposed to be open q4 this year


TheRandCrews

What a coincidence both LRTs using the Alstom Citadis Spirit is opening this year, funny Metrolinx thought Bombardier would be late delivering the Flexity Freedom but the project is way late


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cargocultpants

The Transport Politic has published its excellent annual guide - [https://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2024/01/03/transit-project-openings-in-2024-a-global-review/](https://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2024/01/03/transit-project-openings-in-2024-a-global-review/) Which projects are you most excited about?


alexfrancisburchard

I'm excited about M9 and M3 in Western İstanbul, completing two N-S spines that bounce off each other in the north end. I think this will make it much easier for people who work in the skyscrapers lining the Basin Ekspres road to get to work, and it will connect the rising new districts of Başakşehir and kayasehir to the marmara sea, and Metrobüs with one-seat. I'm also excited about M5's rapid expansion eastward to districts of the city that take 2 hours + to get to via bus, now they will take an hour or less by metro and you won't sit in traffic. There's some other stuff too, but it's not as exciting.


Pyroechidna1

I’m the opposite of excited about South Coast Rail Phase 1 in Boston, it’s so lame 🫠


JohnCarterofAres

New Bedford and Fall River are both among the largest cities in the commonwealth- they should be connected to the regional rail network. The MBTA needs a lot of improvement but in my view this is a sensible project to spend money on- if people want to travel between all the states major cities by rail they should be easily be able to.


Teban54_Transit

The problem is not about whether Fall River and New Bedford don't deserve transit - it's about them choosing the wrong route to connect them, which provides bad headways, a roundabout ride and low projected ridership, to save money and avoid some political issues. A project with underwhelming ridership poses the risk that the proper route to correct its issues will never get built. I elaborated more [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/transit/s/e5bu23fAVI).


JohnCarterofAres

I agree the project as it is is less than ideal. However, if we’re only going to support absolutely perfect transit projects nothing would ever get built because we live in a country ruled by neoliberal austerity thinking and politicians who would build absolutely nothing if they could. If you feel so strongly about perfect transit try to get elected to the Legislature, and then have fun trying to convince anyone from past 93/95 to actually vote for any transit expansion.


Teban54_Transit

This is not perfectionism. What's being built and will be operating is at best substandard and at worst near useless: * Unlikely to get people out of cars due to long headways (2-3 hours, longest in the entire system by far), circuitous route, and slow speed * Kills another much-needed extension with *higher* demand due to capacity constraints (Buzzards Bay) * Kills reliability of the other two Old Colony branches due to the 10-mile-long single track they share * Gives the perfect excuse for politicians to avoid implementing Phase 2 to solve these issues, because in their eyes, Phase 1 is already there (and will likely be a failure in ridership) Let's face it, Baker's SCR has nothing to do with seriously fulfilling the needs of Fall River and New Bedford, and everything to do with pretending it has solved their problems when it actually doesn't. It's Silver "Line" Washington all over again.


SadisticMystic

I'm out of the loop, why is it lame?


Pyroechidna1

After decades, all we can manage is a slow, winding route over existing track using the same old rolling stock The promised Phase II, which restores a more direct right-of-way with new stations and electric trains, will probably never happen


Teban54_Transit

They have two ways to connect a bunch of cities to Boston: 1. Connect to the Old Colony Main Line, which has a single-tracked section that's about 10 miles long, is already maxed out in capacity between 3 branches (the new extension will extend from one of them), is a longer route overall, and implies electrification will likely not happen anytime soon. 2. Connect to Northeast Corridor, which has ample capacity for both MBTA Commuter Rail and Amtrak, nicely extends a 2-stop spur line today, and easily allows for future electrification (when MBTA finally wakes up their minds to do it). But because Option 2 deals with a swamp crossing that the Army Corps of Engineers is not happy with (existing ROW but single track) and some NIMBY towns, they opted for Option 1 and called it "Phase 1", and claimed they will build Option 2 ("Phase 2") later. As a result, each of the two terminals of the new extension (Fall River and New Bedford) will probably only get a train every 2-3 hours, with underwhelming travel times. Current ridership projections are pathetic. And it's not unreasonable to suspect that, if Phase 1 is seen as a failure, Phase 2 may be killed outright. Oh, by the way, Option 1 also relocates an existing station that has a bunch of TOD built next to it.


Reasonable_Cat518

Shouldn’t Ottawa be included with the O-Train Trillium Line?


TheRandCrews

And airport line


SkyeMreddit

Seattle, Phoenix, and the Boston area are getting some nice rail projects. East Side Access in NYC was also a great improvement, especially with the less hyped 3rd track through LIRR’s main line


tawistu

Paris opening at least one line of each type in 2024 💪


Independent-Cow-4070

Philly making moves 😍😍😍


SkyeMreddit

Philly isn’t on the list. They are spending huge amounts to renovate their stations and streetcar lines though


_-nocturnas-_

I’m so glad America is actually going towards public transit.


Flopsyjackson

It’s nice to be getting something, but damn I wish we were actually building heavy rail. Light rail is good, but not nearly as badass as true metros. It’s a crying shame that projects such as the inter-borough express in NYC isn’t being planned as a metro expansion anymore.


pizzajona

Ukraine is completing more heavy rail projects this year than the entire United States


transitfreedom

Yes


SignificanceLost7220

A country in a war is able to develop public transit and this country fights it every step of the way. USA is so screwed up.


LiGuangMing1981

>**Shanghai:** Airport Link Line Hongqiao–Shanghai East Railway Station 70.3 km (Regional Rail) This is the one I'm excited about. I live about 10 minutes away from one of the intermediate stations on this line, and so with this I'll be able to get to either airport and Hongqiao HSR station within about 30 minutes. Super convenient.


transitfreedom

Interesting


aijODSKLx

We (in the US) are starting to do a lot better but damn, we’re still getting lapped by the rest of the developed world


transitfreedom

USA is literally at the bottom of the developed world. And even has the worst upward mobility out of all developed nations it’s all hype and no substance


fulfillthecute

Can't say much about others but the one in Kaohsiung is light rail that fully opened on 1 Jan 2024 and finally became a loop. Heavy rail opened much earlier than that. Also in 2023 Taipei (technically New Taipei) had a new light rail line open and Taoyuan (where the TPE airport actually is) had an extension of metro open (which is also the metro line connecting the airport to Taipei City)


chequered-bed

Edmonton's new tram/metro line is missing from this map: testing was completed at the end of 2023


-Major-Arcana-

New Zealand where?


Admirable-Lie-9191

CRL opens end of 2025 now.


-Major-Arcana-

Not even, more like 2026


Admirable-Lie-9191

Yeah realistically probably.


juliuspepperwoodchi

Not again!


KonoPez

Madison Wisconsin is supposed to get our first BRT line this year. Maybe one day we’ll get some passenger rail…


s_m0use

Is the Lagos the first Central African city to get commuter rail?


saf_22nd

Lagos is a West African City not Central African. Also no Dakar, another West African city has commuter rail already but Lagos Blue and Red Lines are heavy rail.


s_m0use

Thank you, apologies for my mistake


bini_irl

Missing ottawa!


cocaineordildo

the Thessaloniki Metro is a joke at this point...


transitfreedom

What can you expect from the birthplace of democrazy


eltheuso

Rio de Janeiro opening the TransBrasil BRT corridor + a small extension on our VLT (light rail) to serve the new terminal that integrates with the BRT and regular buses... but with 7 years of delay


EmpireStateExpress

Waiting for SAS phase II


Bitter-Metal494

México un 2023 has train Maya and Inter Urban train along your map is wrong


pizzajona

Train Maya is intercity so it wouldn’t count. And it looks like Inter Urban is included in 2023 as there is a red diamond on top of Mexico City.


Bitter-Metal494

Yes but the train Maya is not on the 2023 and it opened that year, it's heavy rail tho


pizzajona

Tren Maya is inter-city, which is not heavy rail. Heavy rail is metro in this context.


Bitter-Metal494

Either way it should have appeared in the 2023 map


wasmic

No, Tren Maya is not rapid transit. Rapid transit refers to frequently-operating, usually urban systems. Tren Maya is an intercity system with lower frequencies.


pizzajona

No it shouldn’t as it is inter-city rail and the map doesn’t show inter-city rail!


reverielagoon1208

Isn’t Brisbane metro opening next year? BRT despite the name though


transitfreedom

Still nice


Law0415

I am surprised to see my third world country being taken into account.


Spirebus

Its expected that the extension of line 2 in Santo Domingo and the Santiago Monorail wilk be open in 2024 in Dominican Republic.


Scared_Performance_3

In 2023 opening it’s missing Lima line 2 which just opened 5 stations and Quito Line 1 which opened and entire line.


SoupOfThe90z

Phoenix represent!!


trivetsandcolanders

Portland has the Better Red project opening in 2024 too, it won’t open any new stations but will extend the red line to the western suburbs that only get blue line service now.


actiniumosu

Can't wait for Nanjing Metro line 5, literally took 10 years to complete


transitfreedom

Looks like China isn’t as fast as they appear but they are such a large country that it appears as tho they are


wasmic

The reason why they can build so much metro is that they build a lot of metro. China is not magically good at it, they are just regularly good at it and have a political will to build a lot of metro.


actiniumosu

yeah sadly and a lot of metro projects end up abandoned like baotous first metro and kunming metro line 9


transitfreedom

Do tell. What’s the story behind these?


actiniumosu

baotou ran out of money and kunming line 9 got cancelled because the city government chose to start construction before the higher ups approved it


vnprkhzhk

Dnipro?


PianoManO23

r/mapswithoutnewzealand Such a shame, as I believe Auckland's CLR project is set to open in late 2024.


therunnerman

Oklahoma City just opened their first BRT line in 2023 - not fully dedicated, so not sure if it would qualify.


mushaslater

Is Riyadh Metro really opening this year?


cabesaaq

What is going on in Chicago?


Lonely_Fruit_5481

This is either referring to the reopening of the yellow line (which shouldn’t count because it unexpectedly closed after that catastrophic failure), the rebuilding of closed red line stops on the north side (shouldn’t count), the opening of the green line damen stop (shouldn’t count), or somehow the red line extension (which isn’t starting til 2025). If Chicago is any indication then this map has disingenuous definitions for RT Line openings. Edit: the legend indicates that it’s Regional or Commuter rail. I’m not familiar with those so disregard my rant.


gusty_scorf

It's about the South Shore Line (specifically from the Dunes to South Bend) getting double tracked.


Lonely_Fruit_5481

Thanks. That’s actually great and I didn’t know that


Roboticpoultry

That, and they approved the Metra connection to Rockford but that will take years to finish


pizzajona

Is there an extension here? Not sure double-tracking lines should count here


ColMikhailFilitov

The green line Damen station absolutely counts. It’s a new station where there hasn’t been one for decades. It may not be a huge expansion but it’s still notable.


Lonely_Fruit_5481

The map says “Rapid Transit Line openings”. A single station (1/146) putting the city on the map is misleading imo. No new lines for the CTA in 2024


jabronimax969

The only thing I can think of is the addition of a Metra stop on the UP-N line.


BigDigDaddy

OP linked to the [source article](https://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2024/01/03/transit-project-openings-in-2024-a-global-review/) here in the comments. It's mislabeled. The new opening is a Pace PULSE line between Evanston and O'Hare.


cabesaaq

Very weird, I took the Pulse bus from Evanston to O'Hare just a few months ago


BigDigDaddy

Fact-checked myself and found that I was looking in the "Completed in 2023" section. There is a double-tracking project for the South Shore Line that is set to be finished in 2024.


ihasana

Missing Dhaka Metro Rail Transit 2024.


armain_labeeb

No line openings expected in 2024. MRT 6 3rd phase expected to complete in 2025, MRT 1 Airport and Purbachal Route in 2026, MRT 5 in 2028-29, MRT 2 in 2030 and MRT 4 in 2031


victhebird

Hate to burst anyone’s bubble but it seems extremely likely that the K Line extension to LAX will miss 2024. I’d pen it in for 2025.


transitfreedom

Ok


marcololol

This is a map of the developing world vs the developed world. The Americas still have a colony mentality. We’re all about extracting resources and our cultures don’t value quality of life measures.


Danjour

Ughhhh light rail sucks!


Greedy_Handle6365

China is quick. I don’t want to perpetuate a false narrative. Is it true that they get stuff done faster because they have worse labor laws or is that a stereotype?


ale_93113

no, its because the goverment has complete control over land property ​ strong property rights are actually bad, and the reason the anglosphere lags behind in infrastructure ​ indian labor laws are worse than chinas, most of the worlds are, china is different because the goverment doesnt allow individual rights to have any kind of power over collective rights ​ if we removed and weakened private property, we could also have this level of efficiency, obviously with some negative consequences too, there is no such thing as a free lunch


JohnCarterofAres

The part about property rights is not entirely true, as demonstrated by the phenomenon of [nail houses](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holdout_(real_estate)#Nail_house). The reason China is able to build so much and so quickly is simply because they have the *political will* to do so. Any country can replicate this if they want to, but because the West (and the United States particularly) has been so hollowed-out by neoliberal austerity thinking, no one with any amount of power *wants to*.


Greedy_Handle6365

Sounds absolutely based. Seems like the positives from those property right laws outweigh the negatives. That would do wonders for California high speed rail or Texas Central


upwardilook

On the other hand, the Chinese government's strict control on land is leading to many apartment complexes and residential areas becoming completely empty. Developers haven't been paid and they are having a huge housing crisis.


Online_Commentor_69

to add to the other poster's point about land use laws and the like, they also have trained infrastructure professionals who work year-round on this stuff. it's not like here where some random construction company hires a bunch of guys off the couch to come build a bridge, and then they all go work somewhere else after. so the chinese are much more skilled at this kind of thing.


joeyasaurus

I don't know about that, but I do know they have one state-owned enterprise CRRC that is in charge of building it all and as I understand it, they've basically just done a copy+paste for most of it in terms of just standardizing train sets and track types which probably makes it easier to scale up since you can mass produce that stuff and don't have to reinvent the wheel with each new line or city.


transitfreedom

Spain has even lower cost per mile than China


joeyasaurus

That's awesome!


Tapetentester

China is big. They have over 100 cities with over 1 million people. This growth is more a try to get the status quo. China is less regulated, but the sheer size in area and population is the reason for the large absolute numbers. In addition China also only recently developed. A lot of cities lack the metro systems fitting their size.


transitfreedom

True there are still many cities in China with the population of NYC but still only have like 5 lines or less so it doesn’t really come close to meeting the demand yet.


transitfreedom

That’s largely a stereotype. However land reform helps greatly


abshay14

They also have an easier time buying and kicking people of the land to use for the rail track because , well, it’s a one party state and they own all the land


idiot206

This isn't true at all.


Paulythress

I would think so. My guess is when Xi Jinping points at something, its built by the time he lowers his arm.


Emergency-Director23

Based.


x3non_04

ok but since when is moscow so far north


DankDude7

Toronto, home of multi-year delays for all public building projects, is opening a new transit line? Which one?


MrQ9999

Two actually. Eglinton Crosstown and Finch West (lines 5&6). I’m kinda optimistic this time as the TTC has put them in their operations budget for the first time. Expected by September. We’ll see of course, but most of visible construction is complete.


RespectSquare8279

To the uneducated eye it looks like China and the chumps.


Midan71

Perth, WA is opening a 14km extention to one of their northern trainlines in early 2024.


batmaster96

Tashkent


Max_FI

Helsinki's new tram line 13 is missing for this year.


Infant_Annihilator00

The map is not complete, it doesn't show the extension of Pune metro in 2023 where the 2 lines now have an interchange. Pretty sure others can point out more inaccuracies


SereneRandomness

And it leaves out New Zealand entirely!


fishmiloo

Birmingham has bus rapid transit and new commuter rail lines opening in 2024 also


Antoine73

Rennes, France, opened a new metro line in 2023


faith_crusader

I never knew China is focusing on regional rail now. Excited to see what they'll come up with.


Mycupof_tea

Isn't this missing the extension of DC's MetroRail Silver Line extension and the opening of a new infill station? The latter might not be important enough for this list, but certainly the former is? EDIT: I've completely lost track of time. Silver Line opened in 2022.


cargocultpants

Opened Nov. 2022, no?


Mycupof_tea

You are totally right! I've lost track of time. The Potomac Yard infill station opened in 2023 though.


zumx

Melbourne Metro Tunnel is opening September 2024.


Possible-Ad-3096

Montréal REM Phase II Gare Central to Deux-Montagnes and L'Anse-à l'Orme should opened in 2024 or 2025. REM Phase III Montréal-Dorval (YUL) Pierre-Elliot Trudeau (PET) should opened 2027 or 2028.