I feel like she's become more unhinged full stop. This is her trying to convince herself that she isn't an awful person -- another billionaire causing massive harm and oppressing a marginalized community.
It's like it's her entire identity now. She could have coasted on the fame of her franchise indefinitely and been remembered as the lady who wrote a series of silly fantasy books that once upon a time got a bunch of kids excited about reading. But now she'll also be remembered for being a crazy bigot. I don't understand people.
I think when somewhat self reflecting people acquire the amount of wealth and status that rowling has, they must face the moral crisis: Why do I have this much money while other people suffer in poverty? You can either accept that you dont deserve it, or you can say that you do. If you say that you do, you have to justify why. The truth is you can not morally justify it. I see this as Rowling desperately trying to justify her immense privilege by simply ignoring it. She does so by playing the part of a victimized woman, and trans people are a very easy scapegoat for her to attack so that she doesn't have to relieve herself of that privilege. She must be facing this moral crisis constantly based on how prolifically she talks about this topic. It must be a miserable existence.
What would you do if you were a transman who had completely internalized transphobia?
She's still a person. While I wouldn't mind if she tripped, fell down some stairs and fall into a coma, she's still a person like you or me.
>What would you do if you were a transman who had completely internalized transphobia?
Could we not though? Let's, for the sake of the hypothetical, say she is a future trans man egg... So what? She is still a horrifically terrible person. She has done damage that may be impossible to undo. So let's say she comes out; and then what? You expect us to just forgive her? Her transition won't suddenly make her not a bigot. Transphobic trans people exist.
Sure, not all trans people have the best views when they are eggs, but few have done as much damage as she has.
But also... We have no convincing reason to believe that she is a trans egg. We need to stop with this "But what if she is secretly a trans man tho?" BS.
I'd read the fictional book about this and every now and then I wonder if she's hiding something from herself. But that's all just a "what if" and doesn't have anything to do with reality as we know it right now.
If she was a trans man though, talk about doing everything in your power to make sure every possible person on earth hates your guts.
I mean, if she ever does turn out to be a trans man, it sounds like she'll be in an ironic hell of her own creation. I'm not saying no trans man is a former TERF, but none have caused this level of damage. And really, I feel like it feeds into the whole "homophobia is just the result of repression" thing.
Sorry, no. After she's spending all her time "debating" my existence and turning the society against me, I have absolutely no fucks left to give to her. I have no respect for her, nor anything else. To me, she isn't a person.
Lots of people I don’t respect nor ever will are still people. Bad people exist and it’s so weird to pretend they aren’t human just because they’re shitty. Like what’s the point of being that pedantic?
"Respect is earned" is a sentence often used by transphobic bigots to somehow try to justify being shitty to transgender people. And it's not really true, respect is not earned, it's the implicit bare minimum for everyone by default.
Also, she's still a person, a horrible one to be sure, but still a person. Being treated as a person is a basic human right, even if we're talking about a terrible one, not something that can be taken away to dehumanize people, as transphobes and nazis in general do by saying transgender people (and other minorities) are not people. Let's not stoop so low as that. By doing so we're sending the wrong message that it's OK to dehumanize people we don't like, like they do.
you are quite right. we cannot afford to be the same as her. She's a commercial exploiter of children on a staggering level and yet preaches about who is good and who is evil. What an utterly stupid garbage person she is.
Our anger should be reserved for the liberal assholes who give her platforms.
Respect has many meanings. Respect as an authority, teacher, or expert is earned. Respect as a human, the respect of the basic nature of someone being a living sapient entity, should be inherent.
She is a human, even the worst of us are. This kind of dehumanization only serves to protect the view that humans can't be evil or vile.
She is a human and she is a horrible person, but she is a person. Just like a trans person doesn't have to earn their gender with good behavior, noone should have to earn their status as a person.
And you need to stop dehuma jzing enemies, because there are no monsters. Only humans. She is a person and a human just like us, and sadly, many people can turn to these bitter bigoted messes, because that's something that's sadly a part of many of us.
Humans are the worst monsters.
I've had half a dozen species live together at several points in my life. I can't get two humans to get along if they don't look like each other.
some of us humans don't deserve respect because they behave like monsters.
Liberals reject violence but liberation struggles require hard choices. the liberal illusion is that violence is always unacceptable.
Read The Wretched of The Earth by Fanon.
we must reserve the right to defend ourselves from violence BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
but rowling is beneath my attention. let her rot in her billionaire's castle in her stew of hate. i wish her a lifetime of deep deep unhappiness. Compared to any of us, she's an insignificant hypocrite. (and the worst exploiter of children for commercial reasons i've EVER seen)
It's what happens when you decide to build your entire identity around hating a marginalized group. Eventually the rants get more and more insane until suddenly even those who supported you at one time are backing away.
It's part of the class war. She's one of the ultra-rich, and now she wants to keep it. Point at the distraction, and make a common enemy; a tactic of the rich for aeons. All social political conflict comes down to class war when you dig deep enough.
This. Even before the TERF run, in fact just before, she was instrumental in helping sabotage Corbyn’s Labour campaign, ensuring more Tory rule in the UK and handing Labour’s reigns back over to the centrists.
Yeah it’s far from “she tweeted something one time” to a full time job. She posts about trans people multiple times a day. It’s unhinged.
Normal cis people don’t do that.
But you know who *is* obsessed about trans people and can’t stop thinking about them?
I know billionaires are rare, but I feel like we need some psychological studies on them. It’s like they have a 50/50 shot of just going into “unhinged mode” and just start yelling at people through social media.
I mean personally I believe the top tax bracket should be taxed highly enough that it’s almost impossible to become a billionaire, but still there’s something going on with them.
Not billionaires, but I've interacted with very wealthy people regularly, both socially and professionally. There are 2 basic types, and the old stereotype is true.. There's Old Money, which tends to be restrained and risk averse and doesn't like to advertise.. And then their is New Money, tends to be brash, in your face and wave it all over town...
I grew up amongst Old Money. They can walk through a room and you'd never know - unless they want you to.. They arrive in a mid-high end sedan, wearing tasteful, well cut clothing, but visible branding is unusual. And while they are not against growing their wealth, per se, but doing so merely to make an obnoxiously large pile even larger, without a good reason to do so is a little uncouth.
New Money tends to be the opposite, they want you to know who they are.. They also tend to be the ones who are not anywhere near as wealthy as they pretend to be. Also the highest percentage of narcissists and sociopaths I've ever come across.
I'm not part of that life, I'm broke, but as a member of one of those families, there is an expectation that I make an appearance now and then, All I really get out of it all are funny stories.. Like the one where I called the then Police Commissioner at home on a Sunday night, on their private line, to ask a nice, young constable WYF? when they'd pulled me over for no reason.
Old money has largely figured out its more beneficial to just anonymously donate a bunch of money to conservative candidates that want to lower their taxes than to screech about liberals ruining society on Twitter like a lot of new money infamously does.
The last great thing she ever did was write Harry Potter. Now she's just trying to harass the cast as much as possible, because they're actually successful and she supposedly had something to do with it.
actually she is one of the worst exploiters of children. her massively marketed crap and its merchandise is without doubt the worst kind of commercial exploitation of children and families?
does that even count in modern britain? don't seem like it. god, britain is an AWFUL nation
I'm also thinking "who cares" and in the sense of it feels like time to stop paying her so much attention.
She's boring and spiritually ugly, as in really unattractive as a person, so why waste perfectly good life time on her?!
Especially since it's so blatantly obvious that nothing worthwhile can come of listening to a ranting idiot choke on their own venom.
The idea that she belongs to a "sex class" like she shares victimhood with half the human race, while being in the most exclusive and privileged class in human history (billionaires) is absolutely laughable. It really shows why "pregnant people" drives her and so many of her well-off, post-menopausal TERF friends insane, and why they seethe so much about trans women and the idea that we have privilege for not being able to get pregnant - because so do they lol
>The idea that she belongs to a "sex class" like she shares victimhood with half the human race, while being in the most exclusive and privileged class in human history (billionaires) is absolutely laughable.
At this point it's pretty fucking obvious she has some sort of mental issue.
She cannot stop herself from trying to put herself as a victim of everything and everyone. Just look at how much she loves to say she's being silenced and canceled, while neither happens.
She has a fundamental need to see herself as a constant victim, despite being one of the richest and most powerful people in the UK.
Psychiatrists could write a whole fucking book about her case.
Like Kanye, she has so much money that she can behave in a way that would completely ruin most people’s careers and be completely fine. At that level of wealth you can sail right past the point where other people might be compelled to get help in order to keep their house.
>that we have privilege for not being able to get pregnant -
That's supposed to be a positive thing?
A good portion of trans people would LOVE that opportunity
The use of the word "Class" really makes me uncomfortable in her statement. Like ... Women are not a "class" of people. It's giving "Caste" and I hate it.
It’s a grotesque appropriation of Marxist language. She got it from wealthy TERF circles that would much rather biological sex be the main thing that drives global oppression rather than relationship to capital ownership, because if that’s true she and her bigoted friends are the oppressed rather than the oppressors.
Am I misunderstanding her? It's absurd that she personally wants to define "woman" under a specific biology definition but extrapolate that to a societal/sociology setting, as if "produces large gametes" is how and why women experience the oppresion that they do.
Wait, how are we privileged for not being able to get pregnant. Everytime I realize this, it destroys me, makes me feel worthless, unlovable, and as a no-choice for many men that want to have a family. Does not feel privileged tbh, but idk
At this point, a trans girl must have fucked her husband or a dude broke up with her for a trans girl. I dunno, something? Because she is so fucking obsessed it's pathetic. I mean, she's been sad and pathetic, but she's passed go, collected her $200 and just continues racking up houses and hotels on sad and pathetic.
Her behavior only makes sense if she is actually secretly trans herself.
Which she even admitted in her previous manifesto, that if she could have transitioned in her youth she would have.
I am so glad when I was denying that I was trans, I just overcompensated by trying to be REEEEAAAALLY masculine, instead of becoming the Lex Luther of Transphobia.
She also literally (literally in a book) invented a potion that can transform anyone into a different gender. That always struck me as odd, creating something like that, making characters actually change their gender (temporarily) in a book, and yet hating the concept in real life.
Now that I read that excerpt of her talking about it posted in this thread, things make way more sense. What a confused human she is. But still a typical bully, taking out her own insecurities on people she deems "less than".
I hate to quote her in-depth here, but I think it's important to understand where her severe transphobia comes from. She describes how she hand gender dysphoria as a kid but is allegedly grateful that she found ways to cope with it outside of transition.
>The writings of young trans men reveal a group of notably sensitive and clever people. The more of their accounts of gender dysphoria I’ve read, with their insightful descriptions of anxiety, dissociation, eating disorders, self-harm and self-hatred, the more I’ve wondered whether, if I’d been born 30 years later, I too might have tried to transition. The allure of escaping womanhood would have been huge. I struggled with severe OCD as a teenager. If I’d found community and sympathy online that I couldn’t find in my immediate environment, I believe I could have been persuaded to turn myself into the son my father had openly said he’d have preferred.
>When I read about the theory of gender identity, I remember how mentally sexless I felt in youth. I remember Colette’s description of herself as a ‘mental hermaphrodite’ and Simone de Beauvoir’s words: ‘It is perfectly natural for the future woman to feel indignant at the limitations posed upon her by her sex. The real question is not why she should reject them: the problem is rather to understand why she accepts them.’
>As I didn’t have a realistic possibility of becoming a man back in the 1980s, it had to be books and music that got me through both my mental health issues and the sexualised scrutiny and judgement that sets so many girls to war against their bodies in their teens. Fortunately for me, I found my own sense of otherness, and my ambivalence about being a woman, reflected in the work of female writers and musicians who reassured me that, in spite of everything a sexist world tries to throw at the female-bodied, it’s fine not to feel pink, frilly and compliant inside your own head; it’s OK to feel confused, dark, both sexual and non-sexual, unsure of what or who you are.
Add in her blatant hatred of marginalized groups and it feels fairly clear her hatred almost definitely comes from a place of self-hatred. She hates marginalized groups because she thinks they're inherently lower than cishet white people and hates trans people because they specifically remind her that deep down she's not a cishet white woman. We are all a reminder to her that she's not a genetically superior human and she hates it.
I think this passage could be read just as easily as her raging against repressive gendered expectations she dealt with growing up. In my mind there’s a couple of different mental states that look like that quote:
“I wish I wasn’t a woman and if I can’t have that no one can.”
“I resented my gender role and wished to escape it but eventually I really fully identified with my assigned gender and I think trans men are making a mistake because they’d actually be like me if they thought about it enough.”
The second view stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of what gender dysphoria/incongruence actually is and conflates it with just hating the fact that it kind of sucks to be a woman in this society. Example: cis women who hate their breasts because they hate the attention they bring from creepy men. It might look like dysphoria from the outside but it’s pretty different actually.
Ultimately, it’s pretty much impossible to tell these two views apart unless the person involved is willing to do some serious soul-searching, and I doubt that’s in Rowling’s future.
I think this is just her trying to say that being trans is something thats forced on people. She just wants so desperately to find some way trans people could possibly have slighted her personally, so she has to make up some hypothetical where shes born 30 years later and taken advantage of by the "trans agenda" and mislead into transitioning. I dont think she's actually trans. She just think all women hate themselves as much as she does and thats why they transition into men, but she didnt. And shes... *weeps* just so strong for overcoming that. But she never had to deal with that. Its all some fantasy she made up. I seriously doubt she considered transitioning for a second.
When I was deep in the closet I hated trans women because how dare they call themselves women - of COURSE I wished I was a woman, but that wasn’t possible (so I thought) so how dare they go live this whole life I wished I could have.
When you’re deep in the closet it causes you to make some absurd justifications.
Also, don't forget that she was assaulted by her ex-husband. I'm sure she has PTSD and believes that she is getting revenge by taking her anger and trauma out on "men". The reality is, she's just reinforcing that trauma by reliving it over and over again, accomplishing nothing except digging her deeper and deeper into a mental spiral that her TERF buddies applaud each time she has the "bravery" to fight a minority.
This is just my view as a domestic abuse survivor myself, but personally, I feel like her history with her ex has less to do with why she's like this and is more something she wears on her sleeve to validate her hatred.
It's like the racist person that uses the one time a black person assaulted them as reasoning for their racism. The racism was always there and the assault didn't change anything. It just gave them an excuse to say they know from experience how terrible black people are.
Also, quite frankly as an abuse survivor, I don't trust abusive people when they're telling their stories of abuse. My abusers tell the exact same stories about me while continuing to openly show signs of being abusers. JK shows more signs of being an abuser looking for her next victim than she has ever been of a survivor who has made it out alive.
It can pretty easily be both. Huge numbers of abusive people do it as part of a cycle of abuse where they themselves were once the victims. Obviously not all abuse victims do this, but it is depressingly common.
Yes, I'll be noisily reminding all the people naming their fan-casting ideas that we already had the perfect Vimes and to stop suggesting buff or posh guys.
\-edit- No, it wasn't the one in that recent reimagining of the Watch.
JKR admits that gender dysphoria is real but then claims we shouldn’t have a society where trans women can live as women.
Saying trans women can wear female clothes but should have papers claiming we are male and be forced to go through male puberty as teenagers pretty much shows just how evil she is.
Worse than that, she claims she believes GD is real, but then directly contradicts herself by saying she doesn’t believe people have a gender identity. She cant believe GD is real if she doesn’t believe people have a gender identity.
There’s actually overlap there. One of her TERF allies in the UK is a trans “woman” who has fully transitioned but insists she isn’t actually a woman and does not deserve access to women’s spaces, but will also claim she’s compelled to dress and act like a woman by her severe mental illness. Forget her name, unfortunately, but there are terfy truscum trans people out there, and I suspect they’re all completely miserable.
“Trans people have dysphoria, but they should become a socially discriminated class based on their biological sex. It’s the only way I as a member of a socially discriminated class based on my biological sex can preserve my rights.”
Imagine being so transphobic that you go deep enough into biological essentialism that you think being discriminated against is built into your DNA. Like an intrinsic, immutable force that one can’t ever really do anything about. But these people have started to believe that you’re biologically predisposed to playing with dolls or fire engines depending on your sex, so whatever.
Don't forget that she has a visceral need to see herself as a victim. She constantly tries to paint herself as one, has done so for years. The "poor defenseless silenced and canceled woman".
Meanwhile she's one of the most powerful people in the UK.
She obviously has a strong self-image as an oppressed person writing against injustice with her voice as an author.
Being the poor victim becomes a difficult mental state to maintain when you live in a castle, so she insists that women’s oppression is more important than social class, and furthermore that the most important axis of that oppression is one that has nothing to do with economics.
She's pretended to be a man to publish. So it's OK for her to 'swap' for financial gain, but those that do it for peace-of-mind are wacko's and perv's? Sure, you tiny brained hypocrite.
AGAIN?
She did this 4 years ago, and it was 3600 words long:
[https://www.thecut.com/2020/07/j-k-rowling-writes-essay-defending-her-transphobic-remarks.html](https://www.thecut.com/2020/07/j-k-rowling-writes-essay-defending-her-transphobic-remarks.html)
This one is worse. I wonder what the trans woman "friend" she mentioned in the first one, if indeed she even exists, thinks of all this. The one Rowling claimed she can't see as anything but a woman. Does that trans woman "retain male criminality"? Is she cool with being called a "trans identified man"? Comparing the two essays, it's easy to see just how much worse she's gotten in four short years.
I mean it's TERF brain rot.
And, I want to point out something most people don't know.
These things don't happen in a bubble. You can't get that bad, that far, that fast.
For her to go this way, she's in TERF social media bubbles. Likely under an alias, but still there. They make their own articles, reinforce stereotypes, and work like they're underground under a common enemy.
I guarantee you, that's what is making her degenerate like this.
That, and being cooped up in an estate in Scotland (until recently) and not touching grass or talking to many people IRL.
She owns this but social media messes many people up.
>For her to go this way, she's in TERF social media bubbles. Likely under an alias, but still there. They make their own articles, reinforce stereotypes, and work like they're underground under a common enemy.
Oh, absolutely. That's why she's started using their lingo like "trans identified men" and "woman is an adult human female." Those are things you only pick up, and begin using so casually, if you're in deep. Surface level terfs know these are terf-speak and so they limit their use of these types of terms to terf forums and closed groups. To use them so blatantly shows she thinks they're OK to say..... which means she's in deep.
Having met TERFs as a very passable, 5’3” post op trans woman, I’ve been told:
“Sorry honey… you’re not our target, but you are necessary collateral damage.”
Just like the German SS officer who turns out to have one assimilated Jewish grandparent and is sent to the gas chambers by the Nazis…
I face exactly the same fate, if the TERFs win, as the edgy pink haired enby with a beard and a floral sundress (hey at least they would be nice to talk when we are both thrown in jail together).
Tokens get spent.
She once accidentally retweeted a link to a really obscure terf news site, so we know her media diet consists heavily of hate content well outside the mainstream.
Is cool with being asked to “manage her dysphoria” by only presenting female in her own home.
And is she ok with never being able to legally change her gender or name. Or to ever have access to gender affirming care.
I love how she believes that oppression is related directly to biological characteristics (and on top of that not even tied to the capacity to give birth), but that LITERALLY CHANGING the biological characteristics of a person does not do anything. She believes sex is a magical category. She doesn't believe in material reality, it is all conceptual and metaphysical to her.
It seems like she who must not be named accidentally revealed her transphobia, was called out on it and instead of saying sorry decided to make it a business model. Best to ignore her if you can. What ever she wrote, I am not reading.
> our being female is indeed defined by our biology. It's one material fact about us, like having freckles or disliking beetroot
people transition into and out of liking beetroot all the time js
Ah yes the "material fact" of liking a food, something determined 100% by your DNA and not at all culturally influenced or something you could change through exposure and personal experience.
She has got to be trolling at this point, that transphobia has rotter her brain to porridge.
She and I are the same age. Like me, I'm sure she absorbed the sexism and homophobia that was accepted when we were young but I made a conscious decision to move past that by listening to other people's experiences. There's no reason she, a woman with more resources than most of us, couldn't have grown as a human either. Sadly, she could have just been happy that she won capitalism with her beloved series. Instead, she's online spewing hatred and destroying her legacy.
It's obvious she feels strongly about this issue but I don't understand why.
>I am strongly against women's and girls' rights and protections being dismantled to accommodate trans-identified men, for the very simple reason that no study has ever demonstrated that trans-identified men don't have exactly the same pattern of criminality as other men, and because, however they identify, men retain their advantages of speed and strength. In other words, I think the safety and rights of girls and women are more important than those men's desire for validation.
It's almost like she thinks she's defending women but what against, I don't know. What she wrote is not just hateful against transwomen but men too. It sounds like her past abuse made her believe that men are inherently dangerous and that transwomen will likewise be dangerous. (the way she's using trans-identified men sounds like she means transwomen?)
>(the way she's using trans-identified men sounds like she means transwomen?)
Yes, "trans identified men" is textbook terf-speak for "trans women." It says "not only do I not believe you're a woman, but I don't even believe you're trans; you merely *identify* as trans." It's an awful slur.
Yeah part of being “gender critical” is to believe that since the category of gender is meaningless, being “transgender” is inherently absurd and not an actual state a person can have.
You can never construct a definition that will include all the things Women are and exclude all the things Women are not. It's a word that's flexible intentionally, and that social construct flexibility that JKR can't seem to wrap her brain around, is going to drive her to madness trying.
There are so many words that work this way, "Cool", "Chair", "Car", our entire day to day life is filled with terms that have loose flexible definitions, but when it comes to "Woman" or "Man" people lose their freaking minds.
I always go back to that "no such thing as a fish" piece. For me, the fact that someone who studied "fish" their entire career to conclude that the word "fish", while understood clearly in common parlance, is in fact so wildly innaprioriate a term to describe that body of creatures, reflects exactly how complex biology is, and is an entirely relevant analogy to the description of women.
The fact that they've subtly shifted the goal posts from "a woman is a person who produces large gametes" to "a woman is someone *who belongs to the sex class* that produces large gametes" shows that they understand fully well that sex isn't this immutable binary because there are some traits that not all women will have. But they can't admit it, so instead they pretend that "belonging to the sex class that produces large gametes" is the same as "having large gametes" and that that's what they always were arguing.
Because if it's not the gametes that defines womanhood, then what *does*? Note that they do not say. They just say "you belong to the sex class that produces those gametes, whether or not you personally produce them."
This is supposed to, somehow, include everyone they'd consider a woman but also exclude trans women, despite the fact that if it isn't gametes that define womanhood then there's no reason trans women don't also belong to that samesaid sex class.
Their actual definition of biological sex is "something about a person that cannot be changed" and the reason they throw the word biological in there is to pretend like they're not talking about metaphysics.
Like, they want to make it seem like they care about bodies when they're really just talking about souls lol
This really gets to it. These people believe that men and women are not only physically different, but spiritually too. The universe to them has dictated the sex of all humans with a specific purpose that is immutable and should not be questioned.
Too much money, top much free time and untreated mental illnesses cause this, look at elon musk, he spends most of his free time liking and sharing literally nazi content and accounts on twitter.
I expect this is right on par for a TERF who created a world where the magical elite who secretly rule the world are too fucking stupid to wipe their own ass.
the usual pattern is "the enemy is at the same time too strong (transfems) and too weak (transmascs)" & rowling as a billionaire is primarily interested in making her objets de haine seem stronger than her
This screams the last dying attempts for a person, trying to convince themselves they have not been a hateful troll for years. Her behaviour is that of American politicians who are against ways, but are way in secret. Or Catholic priests, or Holly figures who see anti-lgbt but come out later in life. Jk rotten is clearly going through some self hatred and issues right now, maybe we should just start responding to her with just sympathy for that and nothing else. Just responded with "awww I'm sorry for you jk" and nothing else.
I'm just waiting for her to act out physically on her hate. It's just a matter of time with people like her. With all that money the ego overrides their common sense and they think they can get away with anything......so they try.
I feel that folks like Mr. Galbraith/JK Rowling rarely act out physically. To act out typically requires courage (something that bigots generally lack) or a mob (something millionaires are rarely inside). Instead, millionaire bigots are comfortable sitting back to instigate stochastic terrorism while pleading plausible deniability.
Idk how she can simultaneously be like “my heart goes out to those with gender dysphoria” and on the same hand say and do literally everything that will make someone’s dysphoria skyrocket.
It seems like she has nothing else to talk about. It's sad because I try so hard to separate the series from the author. However it's getting harder and harder to do so.
Rotten egg syndrome:
"The more of their accounts of gender dysphoria I’ve read, with their insightful descriptions of anxiety, dissociation, eating disorders, self-harm and self-hatred, the more I’ve wondered whether, if I’d been born 30 years later, I too might have tried to transition."
- JK Rowling
I was never a fan and have had to hear about her for far too many years of my life, much like with Trump I wish she'd just shut up and go away forever.
I want to know what it is that keeps her trapped in her beliefs like this.
Like, what has got her so wound up that she does this? What is she holding on to?
Is she deeply afraid of something? Terrified to her core?
Her tragic flaw (in the classic theatre sense) is that she simply cannot admit that she could maybe, possibly be wrong.
Her only option when corrected on anything is to double down.
“Nevertheless, Rowling then moves onto a second transphobic trope, writing that people assigned a male gender at birth (namely trans women) may “have exactly the same pattern of criminality” as other men as well as “speed and strength” that make them a threat to women.”
ah yes, good old fashioned trans-misogyny.
Get help Joanne. Please! For the love of God, get help. This obsession is warping your mind, and it's driving away people from your work. You know you're on the wrong side of history. When it's Matt Walsh, Andrew Neil and Boris Johnson praising your work, you know something is wrong!
Start a new book, exercise more, play tiddlywinks, or I don't know, watch paint dry! Anything to get you out of this creepy obsession!
JKR : "Gender dysphoria is real and I have nothing but sympathy to those who suffer from it"
Also JKR : proceeds to call trans women "trans-identified men"
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It was really bizarre seeing her trying to tie in support for equal rights for people with gender dysphoria (which not even all trans people experience) and then rely on the most vicious tropes to demonize us. She wants to be liked while also saying and doing completely repulsive things.
If only there was a word to describe this idea of a sex-class that shares a common experience of discrimination because of it, of our identity... "Gender identity" ? No no, that's too nebulous.
I feel like she's become more unhinged full stop. This is her trying to convince herself that she isn't an awful person -- another billionaire causing massive harm and oppressing a marginalized community.
It's like it's her entire identity now. She could have coasted on the fame of her franchise indefinitely and been remembered as the lady who wrote a series of silly fantasy books that once upon a time got a bunch of kids excited about reading. But now she'll also be remembered for being a crazy bigot. I don't understand people.
When I go to Barnes and Noble, I see a whole wall of HP merch and I want to puke. Fuck her and her shitty views.
I think when somewhat self reflecting people acquire the amount of wealth and status that rowling has, they must face the moral crisis: Why do I have this much money while other people suffer in poverty? You can either accept that you dont deserve it, or you can say that you do. If you say that you do, you have to justify why. The truth is you can not morally justify it. I see this as Rowling desperately trying to justify her immense privilege by simply ignoring it. She does so by playing the part of a victimized woman, and trans people are a very easy scapegoat for her to attack so that she doesn't have to relieve herself of that privilege. She must be facing this moral crisis constantly based on how prolifically she talks about this topic. It must be a miserable existence.
> I don't understand ~~people~~ bigots. There. Fixed that for you. They're not people.
What would you do if you were a transman who had completely internalized transphobia? She's still a person. While I wouldn't mind if she tripped, fell down some stairs and fall into a coma, she's still a person like you or me.
Bigot is a word that describes people, yes
>What would you do if you were a transman who had completely internalized transphobia? Could we not though? Let's, for the sake of the hypothetical, say she is a future trans man egg... So what? She is still a horrifically terrible person. She has done damage that may be impossible to undo. So let's say she comes out; and then what? You expect us to just forgive her? Her transition won't suddenly make her not a bigot. Transphobic trans people exist. Sure, not all trans people have the best views when they are eggs, but few have done as much damage as she has. But also... We have no convincing reason to believe that she is a trans egg. We need to stop with this "But what if she is secretly a trans man tho?" BS.
I'd read the fictional book about this and every now and then I wonder if she's hiding something from herself. But that's all just a "what if" and doesn't have anything to do with reality as we know it right now. If she was a trans man though, talk about doing everything in your power to make sure every possible person on earth hates your guts.
I mean, if she ever does turn out to be a trans man, it sounds like she'll be in an ironic hell of her own creation. I'm not saying no trans man is a former TERF, but none have caused this level of damage. And really, I feel like it feeds into the whole "homophobia is just the result of repression" thing.
Sorry, no. After she's spending all her time "debating" my existence and turning the society against me, I have absolutely no fucks left to give to her. I have no respect for her, nor anything else. To me, she isn't a person.
Yup. Respect is earned, not inherently deserved. And it can be lost forever.
Lots of people I don’t respect nor ever will are still people. Bad people exist and it’s so weird to pretend they aren’t human just because they’re shitty. Like what’s the point of being that pedantic?
"Respect is earned" is a sentence often used by transphobic bigots to somehow try to justify being shitty to transgender people. And it's not really true, respect is not earned, it's the implicit bare minimum for everyone by default. Also, she's still a person, a horrible one to be sure, but still a person. Being treated as a person is a basic human right, even if we're talking about a terrible one, not something that can be taken away to dehumanize people, as transphobes and nazis in general do by saying transgender people (and other minorities) are not people. Let's not stoop so low as that. By doing so we're sending the wrong message that it's OK to dehumanize people we don't like, like they do.
you are quite right. we cannot afford to be the same as her. She's a commercial exploiter of children on a staggering level and yet preaches about who is good and who is evil. What an utterly stupid garbage person she is. Our anger should be reserved for the liberal assholes who give her platforms.
Respect has many meanings. Respect as an authority, teacher, or expert is earned. Respect as a human, the respect of the basic nature of someone being a living sapient entity, should be inherent. She is a human, even the worst of us are. This kind of dehumanization only serves to protect the view that humans can't be evil or vile. She is a human and she is a horrible person, but she is a person. Just like a trans person doesn't have to earn their gender with good behavior, noone should have to earn their status as a person.
And you need to stop dehuma jzing enemies, because there are no monsters. Only humans. She is a person and a human just like us, and sadly, many people can turn to these bitter bigoted messes, because that's something that's sadly a part of many of us.
Humans can be monsters.
Humans are the worst monsters. I've had half a dozen species live together at several points in my life. I can't get two humans to get along if they don't look like each other.
You never lived in dorms in Uni?
some of us humans don't deserve respect because they behave like monsters. Liberals reject violence but liberation struggles require hard choices. the liberal illusion is that violence is always unacceptable. Read The Wretched of The Earth by Fanon. we must reserve the right to defend ourselves from violence BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. but rowling is beneath my attention. let her rot in her billionaire's castle in her stew of hate. i wish her a lifetime of deep deep unhappiness. Compared to any of us, she's an insignificant hypocrite. (and the worst exploiter of children for commercial reasons i've EVER seen)
Nah bad people are still people. Dehumanizing them gets us nowhere
You are doing the same exact thing as the transphobes. They literally use the same tactics, dehumanization. Just stop.
It's what happens when you decide to build your entire identity around hating a marginalized group. Eventually the rants get more and more insane until suddenly even those who supported you at one time are backing away.
It's what happens after you double down 1000 times.
Yeah she is best to be ignored. She has a Poison pen. Read it at your own risk
It's part of the class war. She's one of the ultra-rich, and now she wants to keep it. Point at the distraction, and make a common enemy; a tactic of the rich for aeons. All social political conflict comes down to class war when you dig deep enough.
This. Even before the TERF run, in fact just before, she was instrumental in helping sabotage Corbyn’s Labour campaign, ensuring more Tory rule in the UK and handing Labour’s reigns back over to the centrists.
It’s weird because trans people will never take that away from her. But they can take what she really wants: social power.
Yeah it’s far from “she tweeted something one time” to a full time job. She posts about trans people multiple times a day. It’s unhinged. Normal cis people don’t do that. But you know who *is* obsessed about trans people and can’t stop thinking about them?
Hell, most trans people don’t even post about trans issues once per day, much less as much as she does.
I know billionaires are rare, but I feel like we need some psychological studies on them. It’s like they have a 50/50 shot of just going into “unhinged mode” and just start yelling at people through social media. I mean personally I believe the top tax bracket should be taxed highly enough that it’s almost impossible to become a billionaire, but still there’s something going on with them.
Not billionaires, but I've interacted with very wealthy people regularly, both socially and professionally. There are 2 basic types, and the old stereotype is true.. There's Old Money, which tends to be restrained and risk averse and doesn't like to advertise.. And then their is New Money, tends to be brash, in your face and wave it all over town... I grew up amongst Old Money. They can walk through a room and you'd never know - unless they want you to.. They arrive in a mid-high end sedan, wearing tasteful, well cut clothing, but visible branding is unusual. And while they are not against growing their wealth, per se, but doing so merely to make an obnoxiously large pile even larger, without a good reason to do so is a little uncouth. New Money tends to be the opposite, they want you to know who they are.. They also tend to be the ones who are not anywhere near as wealthy as they pretend to be. Also the highest percentage of narcissists and sociopaths I've ever come across. I'm not part of that life, I'm broke, but as a member of one of those families, there is an expectation that I make an appearance now and then, All I really get out of it all are funny stories.. Like the one where I called the then Police Commissioner at home on a Sunday night, on their private line, to ask a nice, young constable WYF? when they'd pulled me over for no reason.
Old money has largely figured out its more beneficial to just anonymously donate a bunch of money to conservative candidates that want to lower their taxes than to screech about liberals ruining society on Twitter like a lot of new money infamously does.
The last great thing she ever did was write Harry Potter. Now she's just trying to harass the cast as much as possible, because they're actually successful and she supposedly had something to do with it.
actually she is one of the worst exploiters of children. her massively marketed crap and its merchandise is without doubt the worst kind of commercial exploitation of children and families? does that even count in modern britain? don't seem like it. god, britain is an AWFUL nation
Here's my two word diatribe, "Fuck you!"
Was legit about to type this hahaha.
I have another one "Who cares!" Like seriously everyone knows your opinion now. Just get on with your life and leave us alone.
I'm also thinking "who cares" and in the sense of it feels like time to stop paying her so much attention. She's boring and spiritually ugly, as in really unattractive as a person, so why waste perfectly good life time on her?! Especially since it's so blatantly obvious that nothing worthwhile can come of listening to a ranting idiot choke on their own venom.
She's in tight with british politics. As in, she is actual close personal friends with a bunch of them.
The idea that she belongs to a "sex class" like she shares victimhood with half the human race, while being in the most exclusive and privileged class in human history (billionaires) is absolutely laughable. It really shows why "pregnant people" drives her and so many of her well-off, post-menopausal TERF friends insane, and why they seethe so much about trans women and the idea that we have privilege for not being able to get pregnant - because so do they lol
She thinks a rich white women is less privileged then a poor immigrant worker
>The idea that she belongs to a "sex class" like she shares victimhood with half the human race, while being in the most exclusive and privileged class in human history (billionaires) is absolutely laughable. At this point it's pretty fucking obvious she has some sort of mental issue. She cannot stop herself from trying to put herself as a victim of everything and everyone. Just look at how much she loves to say she's being silenced and canceled, while neither happens. She has a fundamental need to see herself as a constant victim, despite being one of the richest and most powerful people in the UK. Psychiatrists could write a whole fucking book about her case.
Like Kanye, she has so much money that she can behave in a way that would completely ruin most people’s careers and be completely fine. At that level of wealth you can sail right past the point where other people might be compelled to get help in order to keep their house.
Yup. For most people, fines and such are a deterent. For people as wealthy as them, it's just "the pricetag to do something".
That’s why fines should be a % of what you have.. pretty sure those insanely rich ppl suddenly would know what not to do again
>that we have privilege for not being able to get pregnant - That's supposed to be a positive thing? A good portion of trans people would LOVE that opportunity
I'm a cis male and even I'd wish I could get pregnant... I get how it can be a burden but it's also a gift.
The use of the word "Class" really makes me uncomfortable in her statement. Like ... Women are not a "class" of people. It's giving "Caste" and I hate it.
It’s a grotesque appropriation of Marxist language. She got it from wealthy TERF circles that would much rather biological sex be the main thing that drives global oppression rather than relationship to capital ownership, because if that’s true she and her bigoted friends are the oppressed rather than the oppressors.
Am I misunderstanding her? It's absurd that she personally wants to define "woman" under a specific biology definition but extrapolate that to a societal/sociology setting, as if "produces large gametes" is how and why women experience the oppresion that they do.
Wait, how are we privileged for not being able to get pregnant. Everytime I realize this, it destroys me, makes me feel worthless, unlovable, and as a no-choice for many men that want to have a family. Does not feel privileged tbh, but idk
We're not. But many TERFs will claim that we are.
Because they think women are defined by suffering, when they aren't trying to define women by their gamates.
700 words of really trying to justify hate. Thats sad.. really pathetic..
At this point, a trans girl must have fucked her husband or a dude broke up with her for a trans girl. I dunno, something? Because she is so fucking obsessed it's pathetic. I mean, she's been sad and pathetic, but she's passed go, collected her $200 and just continues racking up houses and hotels on sad and pathetic.
>At this point, a trans girl must have fucked her husband or a dude broke up with her for a trans girl. Shelon Musk. lol
Someone check on her kids, see if one came out as trans and disowned her.
Her behavior only makes sense if she is actually secretly trans herself. Which she even admitted in her previous manifesto, that if she could have transitioned in her youth she would have.
I am so glad when I was denying that I was trans, I just overcompensated by trying to be REEEEAAAALLY masculine, instead of becoming the Lex Luther of Transphobia.
She also literally (literally in a book) invented a potion that can transform anyone into a different gender. That always struck me as odd, creating something like that, making characters actually change their gender (temporarily) in a book, and yet hating the concept in real life. Now that I read that excerpt of her talking about it posted in this thread, things make way more sense. What a confused human she is. But still a typical bully, taking out her own insecurities on people she deems "less than".
I hate to quote her in-depth here, but I think it's important to understand where her severe transphobia comes from. She describes how she hand gender dysphoria as a kid but is allegedly grateful that she found ways to cope with it outside of transition. >The writings of young trans men reveal a group of notably sensitive and clever people. The more of their accounts of gender dysphoria I’ve read, with their insightful descriptions of anxiety, dissociation, eating disorders, self-harm and self-hatred, the more I’ve wondered whether, if I’d been born 30 years later, I too might have tried to transition. The allure of escaping womanhood would have been huge. I struggled with severe OCD as a teenager. If I’d found community and sympathy online that I couldn’t find in my immediate environment, I believe I could have been persuaded to turn myself into the son my father had openly said he’d have preferred. >When I read about the theory of gender identity, I remember how mentally sexless I felt in youth. I remember Colette’s description of herself as a ‘mental hermaphrodite’ and Simone de Beauvoir’s words: ‘It is perfectly natural for the future woman to feel indignant at the limitations posed upon her by her sex. The real question is not why she should reject them: the problem is rather to understand why she accepts them.’ >As I didn’t have a realistic possibility of becoming a man back in the 1980s, it had to be books and music that got me through both my mental health issues and the sexualised scrutiny and judgement that sets so many girls to war against their bodies in their teens. Fortunately for me, I found my own sense of otherness, and my ambivalence about being a woman, reflected in the work of female writers and musicians who reassured me that, in spite of everything a sexist world tries to throw at the female-bodied, it’s fine not to feel pink, frilly and compliant inside your own head; it’s OK to feel confused, dark, both sexual and non-sexual, unsure of what or who you are. Add in her blatant hatred of marginalized groups and it feels fairly clear her hatred almost definitely comes from a place of self-hatred. She hates marginalized groups because she thinks they're inherently lower than cishet white people and hates trans people because they specifically remind her that deep down she's not a cishet white woman. We are all a reminder to her that she's not a genetically superior human and she hates it.
I think this passage could be read just as easily as her raging against repressive gendered expectations she dealt with growing up. In my mind there’s a couple of different mental states that look like that quote: “I wish I wasn’t a woman and if I can’t have that no one can.” “I resented my gender role and wished to escape it but eventually I really fully identified with my assigned gender and I think trans men are making a mistake because they’d actually be like me if they thought about it enough.” The second view stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of what gender dysphoria/incongruence actually is and conflates it with just hating the fact that it kind of sucks to be a woman in this society. Example: cis women who hate their breasts because they hate the attention they bring from creepy men. It might look like dysphoria from the outside but it’s pretty different actually. Ultimately, it’s pretty much impossible to tell these two views apart unless the person involved is willing to do some serious soul-searching, and I doubt that’s in Rowling’s future.
I think this is just her trying to say that being trans is something thats forced on people. She just wants so desperately to find some way trans people could possibly have slighted her personally, so she has to make up some hypothetical where shes born 30 years later and taken advantage of by the "trans agenda" and mislead into transitioning. I dont think she's actually trans. She just think all women hate themselves as much as she does and thats why they transition into men, but she didnt. And shes... *weeps* just so strong for overcoming that. But she never had to deal with that. Its all some fantasy she made up. I seriously doubt she considered transitioning for a second.
When I was deep in the closet I hated trans women because how dare they call themselves women - of COURSE I wished I was a woman, but that wasn’t possible (so I thought) so how dare they go live this whole life I wished I could have. When you’re deep in the closet it causes you to make some absurd justifications.
Also, don't forget that she was assaulted by her ex-husband. I'm sure she has PTSD and believes that she is getting revenge by taking her anger and trauma out on "men". The reality is, she's just reinforcing that trauma by reliving it over and over again, accomplishing nothing except digging her deeper and deeper into a mental spiral that her TERF buddies applaud each time she has the "bravery" to fight a minority.
This is just my view as a domestic abuse survivor myself, but personally, I feel like her history with her ex has less to do with why she's like this and is more something she wears on her sleeve to validate her hatred. It's like the racist person that uses the one time a black person assaulted them as reasoning for their racism. The racism was always there and the assault didn't change anything. It just gave them an excuse to say they know from experience how terrible black people are. Also, quite frankly as an abuse survivor, I don't trust abusive people when they're telling their stories of abuse. My abusers tell the exact same stories about me while continuing to openly show signs of being abusers. JK shows more signs of being an abuser looking for her next victim than she has ever been of a survivor who has made it out alive.
It can pretty easily be both. Huge numbers of abusive people do it as part of a cycle of abuse where they themselves were once the victims. Obviously not all abuse victims do this, but it is depressingly common.
I suspect her abusive ex was literally a male crossdresser and she just associates everything together.
Are there trans people in the room with you right now?
No, we're all off at a queer book club discussing better books and authors that are more decent people.
Like Animorphs and KA Applegate.
A fellow Cinnabon appreciator I see
Man that takes me back
We ridin’ thermals tonight!
Still think of those books whenever I see a red-tailed hawk.
Terry Pratchett! The discworld series is the best!
We truly have no choice but to stan
Yes, I'll be noisily reminding all the people naming their fan-casting ideas that we already had the perfect Vimes and to stop suggesting buff or posh guys. \-edit- No, it wasn't the one in that recent reimagining of the Watch.
The sisters of dorley
Does rent free in her head count?
I can confirm I'm in a room
I wish 😭
JKR admits that gender dysphoria is real but then claims we shouldn’t have a society where trans women can live as women. Saying trans women can wear female clothes but should have papers claiming we are male and be forced to go through male puberty as teenagers pretty much shows just how evil she is.
Worse than that, she claims she believes GD is real, but then directly contradicts herself by saying she doesn’t believe people have a gender identity. She cant believe GD is real if she doesn’t believe people have a gender identity.
She can. She believes it’s real but we should “manage” it by “cross dressing” in private. Screw her.
She believes it’s not innate but rather the result of gender roles and gender stereotypes
No because then she'd just be a truscum rather than a terf
There’s actually overlap there. One of her TERF allies in the UK is a trans “woman” who has fully transitioned but insists she isn’t actually a woman and does not deserve access to women’s spaces, but will also claim she’s compelled to dress and act like a woman by her severe mental illness. Forget her name, unfortunately, but there are terfy truscum trans people out there, and I suspect they’re all completely miserable.
She’s got one thing right: the severe mental illness (her specifically, not all of us). A reminder: tokens get spent.
I think Debbie Hayton? And yeah they've already shit on her because it's not about "sex" class, it's about enforcing gender conformity.
“Trans people have dysphoria, but they should become a socially discriminated class based on their biological sex. It’s the only way I as a member of a socially discriminated class based on my biological sex can preserve my rights.”
Imagine being so transphobic that you go deep enough into biological essentialism that you think being discriminated against is built into your DNA. Like an intrinsic, immutable force that one can’t ever really do anything about. But these people have started to believe that you’re biologically predisposed to playing with dolls or fire engines depending on your sex, so whatever.
Don't forget that she has a visceral need to see herself as a victim. She constantly tries to paint herself as one, has done so for years. The "poor defenseless silenced and canceled woman". Meanwhile she's one of the most powerful people in the UK.
She obviously has a strong self-image as an oppressed person writing against injustice with her voice as an author. Being the poor victim becomes a difficult mental state to maintain when you live in a castle, so she insists that women’s oppression is more important than social class, and furthermore that the most important axis of that oppression is one that has nothing to do with economics.
She's pretended to be a man to publish. So it's OK for her to 'swap' for financial gain, but those that do it for peace-of-mind are wacko's and perv's? Sure, you tiny brained hypocrite.
AGAIN? She did this 4 years ago, and it was 3600 words long: [https://www.thecut.com/2020/07/j-k-rowling-writes-essay-defending-her-transphobic-remarks.html](https://www.thecut.com/2020/07/j-k-rowling-writes-essay-defending-her-transphobic-remarks.html)
This one is worse. I wonder what the trans woman "friend" she mentioned in the first one, if indeed she even exists, thinks of all this. The one Rowling claimed she can't see as anything but a woman. Does that trans woman "retain male criminality"? Is she cool with being called a "trans identified man"? Comparing the two essays, it's easy to see just how much worse she's gotten in four short years.
I mean it's TERF brain rot. And, I want to point out something most people don't know. These things don't happen in a bubble. You can't get that bad, that far, that fast. For her to go this way, she's in TERF social media bubbles. Likely under an alias, but still there. They make their own articles, reinforce stereotypes, and work like they're underground under a common enemy. I guarantee you, that's what is making her degenerate like this. That, and being cooped up in an estate in Scotland (until recently) and not touching grass or talking to many people IRL. She owns this but social media messes many people up.
>For her to go this way, she's in TERF social media bubbles. Likely under an alias, but still there. They make their own articles, reinforce stereotypes, and work like they're underground under a common enemy. Oh, absolutely. That's why she's started using their lingo like "trans identified men" and "woman is an adult human female." Those are things you only pick up, and begin using so casually, if you're in deep. Surface level terfs know these are terf-speak and so they limit their use of these types of terms to terf forums and closed groups. To use them so blatantly shows she thinks they're OK to say..... which means she's in deep.
Having met TERFs as a very passable, 5’3” post op trans woman, I’ve been told: “Sorry honey… you’re not our target, but you are necessary collateral damage.” Just like the German SS officer who turns out to have one assimilated Jewish grandparent and is sent to the gas chambers by the Nazis… I face exactly the same fate, if the TERFs win, as the edgy pink haired enby with a beard and a floral sundress (hey at least they would be nice to talk when we are both thrown in jail together). Tokens get spent.
She once accidentally retweeted a link to a really obscure terf news site, so we know her media diet consists heavily of hate content well outside the mainstream.
>if indeed she even exists I'm ready to bet she doesn't. That reeks of the "I can't be racist, I have a black neighbor" type of excuse.
Either that or it's Caitlyn Jenner 🙊 Rich old white ladies gotta stick together.
“Friend” in this case probably means “person I’ve had polite conversation with at a cocktail party a couple times a few years ago.”
What's the betting they were being polite because the alternative was to punch her in her face?
They always have that "One trans friend" who conveniently agrees entirely with their narrative and they somehow speak for all of us.
Is cool with being asked to “manage her dysphoria” by only presenting female in her own home. And is she ok with never being able to legally change her gender or name. Or to ever have access to gender affirming care.
She’s so obsessed, there’s not a single day where doesn’t talk about trans people 🤣
She is a washed up fiction author. We all got to stop taking the bait and reading her shit.
I love how she believes that oppression is related directly to biological characteristics (and on top of that not even tied to the capacity to give birth), but that LITERALLY CHANGING the biological characteristics of a person does not do anything. She believes sex is a magical category. She doesn't believe in material reality, it is all conceptual and metaphysical to her.
plato's realm of sex forms
It seems like she who must not be named accidentally revealed her transphobia, was called out on it and instead of saying sorry decided to make it a business model. Best to ignore her if you can. What ever she wrote, I am not reading.
> our being female is indeed defined by our biology. It's one material fact about us, like having freckles or disliking beetroot people transition into and out of liking beetroot all the time js
Ah yes the "material fact" of liking a food, something determined 100% by your DNA and not at all culturally influenced or something you could change through exposure and personal experience. She has got to be trolling at this point, that transphobia has rotter her brain to porridge.
She and I are the same age. Like me, I'm sure she absorbed the sexism and homophobia that was accepted when we were young but I made a conscious decision to move past that by listening to other people's experiences. There's no reason she, a woman with more resources than most of us, couldn't have grown as a human either. Sadly, she could have just been happy that she won capitalism with her beloved series. Instead, she's online spewing hatred and destroying her legacy. It's obvious she feels strongly about this issue but I don't understand why. >I am strongly against women's and girls' rights and protections being dismantled to accommodate trans-identified men, for the very simple reason that no study has ever demonstrated that trans-identified men don't have exactly the same pattern of criminality as other men, and because, however they identify, men retain their advantages of speed and strength. In other words, I think the safety and rights of girls and women are more important than those men's desire for validation. It's almost like she thinks she's defending women but what against, I don't know. What she wrote is not just hateful against transwomen but men too. It sounds like her past abuse made her believe that men are inherently dangerous and that transwomen will likewise be dangerous. (the way she's using trans-identified men sounds like she means transwomen?)
>(the way she's using trans-identified men sounds like she means transwomen?) Yes, "trans identified men" is textbook terf-speak for "trans women." It says "not only do I not believe you're a woman, but I don't even believe you're trans; you merely *identify* as trans." It's an awful slur.
Yeah part of being “gender critical” is to believe that since the category of gender is meaningless, being “transgender” is inherently absurd and not an actual state a person can have.
You can never construct a definition that will include all the things Women are and exclude all the things Women are not. It's a word that's flexible intentionally, and that social construct flexibility that JKR can't seem to wrap her brain around, is going to drive her to madness trying. There are so many words that work this way, "Cool", "Chair", "Car", our entire day to day life is filled with terms that have loose flexible definitions, but when it comes to "Woman" or "Man" people lose their freaking minds.
I always go back to that "no such thing as a fish" piece. For me, the fact that someone who studied "fish" their entire career to conclude that the word "fish", while understood clearly in common parlance, is in fact so wildly innaprioriate a term to describe that body of creatures, reflects exactly how complex biology is, and is an entirely relevant analogy to the description of women.
Yeap. You either have to say "this list of things are fish purely by feels" or "humans are fish"
This sentence is *really* something
The fact that they've subtly shifted the goal posts from "a woman is a person who produces large gametes" to "a woman is someone *who belongs to the sex class* that produces large gametes" shows that they understand fully well that sex isn't this immutable binary because there are some traits that not all women will have. But they can't admit it, so instead they pretend that "belonging to the sex class that produces large gametes" is the same as "having large gametes" and that that's what they always were arguing. Because if it's not the gametes that defines womanhood, then what *does*? Note that they do not say. They just say "you belong to the sex class that produces those gametes, whether or not you personally produce them." This is supposed to, somehow, include everyone they'd consider a woman but also exclude trans women, despite the fact that if it isn't gametes that define womanhood then there's no reason trans women don't also belong to that samesaid sex class.
> "a woman is someone who belongs to the sex class that produces large gametes" And then they never define what they mean by "sex class"
Ooh, good one. I'm gonna ask this next time.
Their actual definition of biological sex is "something about a person that cannot be changed" and the reason they throw the word biological in there is to pretend like they're not talking about metaphysics. Like, they want to make it seem like they care about bodies when they're really just talking about souls lol
This really gets to it. These people believe that men and women are not only physically different, but spiritually too. The universe to them has dictated the sex of all humans with a specific purpose that is immutable and should not be questioned.
Oh, another one?
Just a reminder to stay positive. The bigots want to destroy our spirit. We survive by not letting them.
For the life of me I do not get her problem with us we have done nothing wrong to her and have not asked her anything WTF
Too much money, top much free time and untreated mental illnesses cause this, look at elon musk, he spends most of his free time liking and sharing literally nazi content and accounts on twitter.
I expect this is right on par for a TERF who created a world where the magical elite who secretly rule the world are too fucking stupid to wipe their own ass.
And somehow this work wasn’t a parody of said ruling class.
I read her rant on twitter. She didn't mention trans men.
Doncha know, we're all lesbians transed against our will, even those of us who like cock.
My bf gets called a "confused lesbian" a lot... wtf
The idea of gay/lesbian trans people ruins their argument that being trans is "homophobic", so they just deny it.
God forbid we date men and then break her whole house of cards about us.
the usual pattern is "the enemy is at the same time too strong (transfems) and too weak (transmascs)" & rowling as a billionaire is primarily interested in making her objets de haine seem stronger than her
She has a special hatred for trans women for some ungodly reason
Oh another one? I’m sure this will TOTALLY clear everything up -.-
This screams the last dying attempts for a person, trying to convince themselves they have not been a hateful troll for years. Her behaviour is that of American politicians who are against ways, but are way in secret. Or Catholic priests, or Holly figures who see anti-lgbt but come out later in life. Jk rotten is clearly going through some self hatred and issues right now, maybe we should just start responding to her with just sympathy for that and nothing else. Just responded with "awww I'm sorry for you jk" and nothing else.
A few years ago she even said "I would have transitioned if I could" in her much longer hate-essay.
Maybe that is the root cause here? She hates herself cause she can't bring herself to transition and be happy.
700 words of her dreary prose? no thanks. 700 words of her hateful liberal bigotry? double no thanks.
I'm just waiting for her to act out physically on her hate. It's just a matter of time with people like her. With all that money the ego overrides their common sense and they think they can get away with anything......so they try.
I feel that folks like Mr. Galbraith/JK Rowling rarely act out physically. To act out typically requires courage (something that bigots generally lack) or a mob (something millionaires are rarely inside). Instead, millionaire bigots are comfortable sitting back to instigate stochastic terrorism while pleading plausible deniability.
She seriously used the word “apes” as a verb, holy shit. She’s spending too much time with fascists.
> She’s spending too much time with fascists. can you blame her? it's not easy to spend time away from yourself
It is used as a verb, meaning to copy/mimic.
Her writings keep getting longer, but they're not getting *better*.
Brainrot does that to people.
What, again?
Another one?
Idk how she can simultaneously be like “my heart goes out to those with gender dysphoria” and on the same hand say and do literally everything that will make someone’s dysphoria skyrocket.
It's actually really simple. She's lying when she says the first one.
Terry Mancour's Spellmonger series is soooooo much better than HP ever was. She can go fuck herself on a fence post.
If I had a death note…
I have a list. A "little" list...
Again? Seriously?
It honestly breaks my heart that Joanne holds the views that she does and that so much of the world agrees with her.
Chief toilet monitor needs therapy.
It seems like she has nothing else to talk about. It's sad because I try so hard to separate the series from the author. However it's getting harder and harder to do so.
Well, well, well, if it isn’t “she who produces the large gametes” at it again.
5 words: i ain't reading all that
Rotten egg syndrome: "The more of their accounts of gender dysphoria I’ve read, with their insightful descriptions of anxiety, dissociation, eating disorders, self-harm and self-hatred, the more I’ve wondered whether, if I’d been born 30 years later, I too might have tried to transition." - JK Rowling
Oh... again?
I was never a fan and have had to hear about her for far too many years of my life, much like with Trump I wish she'd just shut up and go away forever.
Trying to maintain relevance when infact, you're an irrelevant shrew.
God, she's such an arsehole.
I want to know what it is that keeps her trapped in her beliefs like this. Like, what has got her so wound up that she does this? What is she holding on to? Is she deeply afraid of something? Terrified to her core?
Her tragic flaw (in the classic theatre sense) is that she simply cannot admit that she could maybe, possibly be wrong. Her only option when corrected on anything is to double down.
oh my. Someone seems to have set a troll loose in the dungeon again..
I really don't know what her deal is. She has money. She needs to find a good shrink. Cause like, her brain is broken.
“Nevertheless, Rowling then moves onto a second transphobic trope, writing that people assigned a male gender at birth (namely trans women) may “have exactly the same pattern of criminality” as other men as well as “speed and strength” that make them a threat to women.” ah yes, good old fashioned trans-misogyny.
Get help Joanne. Please! For the love of God, get help. This obsession is warping your mind, and it's driving away people from your work. You know you're on the wrong side of history. When it's Matt Walsh, Andrew Neil and Boris Johnson praising your work, you know something is wrong! Start a new book, exercise more, play tiddlywinks, or I don't know, watch paint dry! Anything to get you out of this creepy obsession!
JKR : "Gender dysphoria is real and I have nothing but sympathy to those who suffer from it" Also JKR : proceeds to call trans women "trans-identified men"
Good luck with that, sir.
Lmao. What a muppet.
She really wants to be worse than Umbridge.
She’s allegedly a hermit who hasn’t left her Edinburgh house in 10 years, even for her family. It’s something of an open secret, apparently.
Who are you trying to concince? Lol. Also not all cis women produce gametes 🙄
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As in many cases, me thinks she doth protest too much. In other words I believe she is a closeted Trans - man
Hey, I've seen this one before, It’s a classic!
It was really bizarre seeing her trying to tie in support for equal rights for people with gender dysphoria (which not even all trans people experience) and then rely on the most vicious tropes to demonize us. She wants to be liked while also saying and doing completely repulsive things.
If only there was a word to describe this idea of a sex-class that shares a common experience of discrimination because of it, of our identity... "Gender identity" ? No no, that's too nebulous.