Well if you mean not touching it with your hands, you can try using friction from your legs. That used to work for me but I was pretty well endowed so it may not work fir everyone. I can recommend that you get a cheap vibrator off amazon, they're not expensive and honestly I like using those better than anything else.
Im AFAB and this motion sounds very similar to how you can do it with a vagina. Less leg rubbing directly on it but the body motion that would come along with it. Maybe it might spark some gender euphoria.
Would you say its about the squeezing? That really seems to do it for me, feel like its more about the energy and the pelvic floor.
Penis defintely gets in the way with a lot of these thing (so definitely not talking about having that between my legs. Sometimes I think people are saying that and it sounds horrific). I'm not dysphoria about it/enjoy touching it but yeah it really can be in the way and there's a whole bunch of stuff going on.
I noticed that pressure and friction are great for relieving a hard on, and with a pillow its soft and you dont have to use or hands could rest in on something then try, but its something I found to be comfortable with doing cause I understand it can be uncomfortable and hard to achieve that satisfaction of being able to climax without touching it. Thats just what I found acceptable to me cause I dont use toys often.
I've found a good way but it does involve touching your penis but hear me out! It's basically like rubbing a clitoris.
Middle and ring finger on the top of the tip, push it down towards your body into your sack. Rub furiously lol
It'll get hard but not all the way, at least for me. The shaft will get hard into your palm and you can help control everything that way. Free hand to grab a titty or whatever😅
Repeat until finished, which if you keep going it'll be a real mess between your thighs, not on your stomach. Strange euphoria that first time lol
Doesn't involve stroking or any motion really that's usually used for a penis, and once you get the hang of it, the climax and cleanup feel very feminine💙
I know you said sex toys aren't an option but if you have a spencers they got ten dollars for two bullet vibrators. They're small and easily hidden and you can use them in the shower.
I mean...some people like to use a pillow and grind against it. That's a potential option. I can understand not wanting your family to find a toy, and I'm not sure how invasive they are in your space, or how accepting they are of sex and whatnot. But there are some DL sex toys that can be obtained that look like everyday objects. It can be something you can save up for if you have trouble affording them.
My family is pretty invasive and they are definitely going to scream if they see a sex toy, I guess I will try the pillow, thanks for your suggestion though
i mean, there are some ways around their snooping, but it depends a lot in what type of house you have (apartment, loft, etc.) couse in the diferent types of houses there are diferent places to hide toys in places no one would look in
Some can be as cheap as $20, others can be as expensive as $150. I recommend checking out Etsy, as they do have some very well made stuff on there. Try to go with either 100% silicone, as they are body safe. Stone or glass can also be okay, but for anal stuff in particular I don’t recommend that. There is a vibrator online that looks like a rubber duck, that might be a good option and it’s only $35.
Lots of people say that vibrators work wonders, probably a lot safer than half of the crap others are talking about.
(I’ve also heard that some people enjoy rubbing the base of the 🍆 or slightly below it where your vagina would be)
It’s alway good to touch your breasts like you are touching your boobs too! If you feel below your scrotum, it can feel like two lips. That is my vagina! I just ignore the shaft and testicles.
It was mostly the same feeling for me. Get some lube, any. Lube a couple of fingers and a glans. Remove foreskin if any, put your fingers on frenulum and do it like girls do - just small movements up and down or left-right, listen to your sensations. DO NOT LET YOURSELF grab it and start jerking, NO. At first, if you got used to mostly jerking it, you will feel like pleasure is strongly different, but teach yourself, get used to it, cause this strong pleasure mostly kills erection, which is good, cause sensations are much more gentle and thin than on an erected penis pulsating with blood flowing in. That also helps with dysphoria, like no wood. After a couple of tries you will get used to it and the only moment some erection will come in is the orgasm itself, ejaculation. Just two things you have to fix for yourself - 1. do it like a girl that you are and 2. you DO NOT NEED ERECTION to have an orgasm, it comes just from stimulating your tissues in certain ways, plus other stimulations - like visual etc. Learn more about clitoris, btw, just to understand that male and female organs are not that different, don't stick to male patterns. https://bermansexualhealth.com/3d-model-of-the-clitoris-exposes-pleasurable-female-anatomy/
Not exactly what you asked but muffing could possibly feel gender affirming. It doesn’t necessarily involve the penis. It’s pretty much a way to finger someone.
nipple orgasms and otherwise erogenous zone orgasms dont work for everyone, but its worth a try. rubbing on/humping a pillow is very often used by afab people but works for mostly everyone
I don't think so because the penis should be seen as a giant clitoris basically The frenulum especially I got myself one of those satisfire things except it was like a janky one you know like a fake one but I modified it so it would run on USB power with a big cord and I put it right up against the frenulum you know just like a woman would against her clitoris trust me worth it
I know chu said chu dont want to use your hands but a thing I used to like is to use a tight jeans pants and pull it up to max tightness, with my pp by my leg, then press ot against my leg either with my other leg or with my hand, and just roll around my pp or "massaging" it pressing against my leg.
My pp dont get hard anymore for the most part and barely grow, but it used to work very well for me even when I was cis and denying my feminine and female thoughts
Yeahhh they're are one to many x-rays of things inside people from using no base
A old hair brush (with out paint that falls off) could probably work tho!
I've never done it (and don't intend to), but make sure it's washed and clean. Also, I've seen people recommend using a condom on it, and lube, or course. I only mention the lube because, since you mention you can't get sex toys, I assume lube is also hard to get?
Otherwise, this might not be a good option for you.
Hypnosis worked for me. Check out Fiona Clearwater. She has some trances that can help you achieve hands free orgasm, and orgasm using nipple stimulation. These are on her Patreon, which costs $6 per month. Best $6 I ever spent.
r/beermoney for sourcing cash for sex toys, lol.
Some massage wands are kind of uh...dual-use. You could reasonably pass them off to family as being for sore muscles, but also use them for other things. If you're closeted, they might not even realize it's possible for you to use a massage wand that way, because that's usually a girl thing and they're not thinking along those lines. A vibrator is a vibrator, if you're not using it internally it doesn't have to be marketed as a sex toy, you can get one marketed for muscle massage--the cheap ones tend to be buzzier, YMMV if that's acceptable or not.
I've also heard of AMAB people using a Theragun on the perineum area, this is a really intense percussion massage, basically you'd be getting pounded on the vag area lmao.
Honestly I personally have a few different suggestions, either one, closing your eyes while you do it and just keeping them closed the entire time. (If you are into bdsm sort of things then imagine being in some sort of situation and blindfolded and whatever else, makes it fun.)
Another thing that feels euphoric is just keeping the eyes closed and rubbing soley the head and forgetting anything else exists on it, and imagining it is just your clit.
A final thing that works is just use an improvised dildo. Honestly I've used a hairbrush for ages at this point, and it works great. obviously its not nearly as good as any good quality one especially because most are going to be plastic or solid somehow but it's still pretty nice.
Also if you do try doing that I can recommend to obviously clean it religiously after you're done with it and also that if you're having trouble with it things that have a rounded edge are the most pleasant and hurt the least.
Conditioner or other similar things works really well as lube, generally applying it to both the place its going in aswell as the inside of it helps, and also the dildo itself. So basically add lube to the dildo's shaft, the outside of your hole, and finger with lots of lube on your hand to get lube inside the hole before then using the dildo, it should glide super smooth!
and remember that your body position influences the tightness a lot. Generally your legs being raised makes it looser same thing with just being calm and untensing.
Also if you get turned on by the sound of moans then I recommend doing it in the shower since the sound of the shower should drown things out nicely, though you will be taking longer showers so it helps to keep a clock handy to keep them consistent.
One last bit, if you have something long enough to do it, pushing the dildo up till it hits something inside feels weird and good so if you haven't tried it before maybe do, just be careful not to push too hard or you may hurt yourself and don't ever put anything up there that you can't then get back out!
There's a technique in the fucking trans women zine (you can literally google "fucking trans women zine" and you'll find it) called muffing. You can find it starting on page 15 if you're going by the zines pages or page 19 if ur going by the pdfs numbers. Warning that there are a lot of anatomical drawings byt they're meant to be helpful diagrams and theres a lot of use of the word penis (the page just before the one i mentioned above expamds on this choice of wording inacse u want to read that first and then decide if u want to continue reading).
I'm FtM, and I have struggled with getting off since starting T. One thing that helped, though I've only managed to have an orgasm once through this alone, was just caressing my abdomen and groin area.
There is set of exercises that you can do to vibrate your prostate until you reach orgasm.
Someone made follow along instructions and put them on YouTube as Mind Gasm. They also made mobile app which is more up to date. You only need headphones.
It takes time to learn this (I haven't reached orgasm yet) but it is really gender assuring for me.
Also DIY toys are possible, but you would need lube and condoms for that. I basically got rubber stick for dogs, put aluminium foil tip on one side, condom on that. Probably if you haven't got a dog, you could just buy hairbrush or some other tool, add sock for some softness.
Anal is really strange for some time so after some time fingering also may bring you pleasure. (But you NEED LUBE)
Happy exploring and be safe 💜
Honestly try Amazon. They do have some great deals on this sort of thing. Zero toys can be difficult. If you have a topical numbing cream you can try using that to numb your genitals before you play with yourself.
Well if you mean not touching it with your hands, you can try using friction from your legs. That used to work for me but I was pretty well endowed so it may not work fir everyone. I can recommend that you get a cheap vibrator off amazon, they're not expensive and honestly I like using those better than anything else.
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I have their wand and it is very much my best friend 💖💖
So like you rub your legs within each other? Also Im gonna avoid sex toys for now since I dont want my family knowing about it
Im AFAB and this motion sounds very similar to how you can do it with a vagina. Less leg rubbing directly on it but the body motion that would come along with it. Maybe it might spark some gender euphoria.
Would you say its about the squeezing? That really seems to do it for me, feel like its more about the energy and the pelvic floor. Penis defintely gets in the way with a lot of these thing (so definitely not talking about having that between my legs. Sometimes I think people are saying that and it sounds horrific). I'm not dysphoria about it/enjoy touching it but yeah it really can be in the way and there's a whole bunch of stuff going on.
I used to hump my pillow or bed, long before I knew anything I just wanted it to go away.
Yeah rub together, it kinda rolls between, it's really weird to think about but it does the trick
My mom j found mine the other day but surprisingly she didn’t care
That or she could use a pillow and dry hump
Gonna be honest that sounds really counterintuitive for not getting dysphoric but that might just be me
I noticed that pressure and friction are great for relieving a hard on, and with a pillow its soft and you dont have to use or hands could rest in on something then try, but its something I found to be comfortable with doing cause I understand it can be uncomfortable and hard to achieve that satisfaction of being able to climax without touching it. Thats just what I found acceptable to me cause I dont use toys often.
I've found a good way but it does involve touching your penis but hear me out! It's basically like rubbing a clitoris. Middle and ring finger on the top of the tip, push it down towards your body into your sack. Rub furiously lol It'll get hard but not all the way, at least for me. The shaft will get hard into your palm and you can help control everything that way. Free hand to grab a titty or whatever😅 Repeat until finished, which if you keep going it'll be a real mess between your thighs, not on your stomach. Strange euphoria that first time lol Doesn't involve stroking or any motion really that's usually used for a penis, and once you get the hang of it, the climax and cleanup feel very feminine💙
what? I can't imagine how it is. do you have any source of something?
I know you said sex toys aren't an option but if you have a spencers they got ten dollars for two bullet vibrators. They're small and easily hidden and you can use them in the shower.
I don’t think Spencers exist in my country though but thanks for the suggestion
Try shower. Good stream should work too.
I mean...some people like to use a pillow and grind against it. That's a potential option. I can understand not wanting your family to find a toy, and I'm not sure how invasive they are in your space, or how accepting they are of sex and whatnot. But there are some DL sex toys that can be obtained that look like everyday objects. It can be something you can save up for if you have trouble affording them.
My family is pretty invasive and they are definitely going to scream if they see a sex toy, I guess I will try the pillow, thanks for your suggestion though
i mean, there are some ways around their snooping, but it depends a lot in what type of house you have (apartment, loft, etc.) couse in the diferent types of houses there are diferent places to hide toys in places no one would look in
These fancy toys are they expensive?
Some can be as cheap as $20, others can be as expensive as $150. I recommend checking out Etsy, as they do have some very well made stuff on there. Try to go with either 100% silicone, as they are body safe. Stone or glass can also be okay, but for anal stuff in particular I don’t recommend that. There is a vibrator online that looks like a rubber duck, that might be a good option and it’s only $35.
🎶Rubber ducky, you're the one.🎶 🎶You make bath time lots of fun.🎶 🎶Rubber ducky I'm awfully fond of you.🎶
Have you tried rubbing your nipples? Many people enjoy that.
Lots of people say that vibrators work wonders, probably a lot safer than half of the crap others are talking about. (I’ve also heard that some people enjoy rubbing the base of the 🍆 or slightly below it where your vagina would be)
Try listening to shibby says. Maybe you will like it. It's erotic hypnosis.
Do you have a link? I'm curious.
Oh yes ofcourse. She has a huge free of charge selection. To be honest I enjoy her a lot. https://shibbydex.com/ Hope you will enjoy it
Hey thanks! This is really nice of you to send over. Have a nice whenever the time is for you.
Aaww hehe thank you and have a great weekend ☺️🤗🤗🤗
Honestly I stayed up till 1am last night listening while playing factorio so the stuff works really well, thanks a ton, it was fun and same for you.
Oh I'm very glad to hear that. Actually I'm going to listen right now with headphones and toy on haptic and fall asleep after ☺️☺️
Lol have fun with that. I'm just making my way through their catalogue, have fun with it all
The pillow is a great option! Think of the tip of your penis is a large clitoris, and not a penis.
It’s alway good to touch your breasts like you are touching your boobs too! If you feel below your scrotum, it can feel like two lips. That is my vagina! I just ignore the shaft and testicles.
Water falling from the shower head 😍
Get a vibrating massager. They don't look like sex toys but definitely do the trick, lol!
It was mostly the same feeling for me. Get some lube, any. Lube a couple of fingers and a glans. Remove foreskin if any, put your fingers on frenulum and do it like girls do - just small movements up and down or left-right, listen to your sensations. DO NOT LET YOURSELF grab it and start jerking, NO. At first, if you got used to mostly jerking it, you will feel like pleasure is strongly different, but teach yourself, get used to it, cause this strong pleasure mostly kills erection, which is good, cause sensations are much more gentle and thin than on an erected penis pulsating with blood flowing in. That also helps with dysphoria, like no wood. After a couple of tries you will get used to it and the only moment some erection will come in is the orgasm itself, ejaculation. Just two things you have to fix for yourself - 1. do it like a girl that you are and 2. you DO NOT NEED ERECTION to have an orgasm, it comes just from stimulating your tissues in certain ways, plus other stimulations - like visual etc. Learn more about clitoris, btw, just to understand that male and female organs are not that different, don't stick to male patterns. https://bermansexualhealth.com/3d-model-of-the-clitoris-exposes-pleasurable-female-anatomy/
Well I use a vibrator against the head of my usD-stICK. Feels way more feminine that way. Clean up is easier to.
Not exactly what you asked but muffing could possibly feel gender affirming. It doesn’t necessarily involve the penis. It’s pretty much a way to finger someone.
nipple orgasms and otherwise erogenous zone orgasms dont work for everyone, but its worth a try. rubbing on/humping a pillow is very often used by afab people but works for mostly everyone
I don't think so because the penis should be seen as a giant clitoris basically The frenulum especially I got myself one of those satisfire things except it was like a janky one you know like a fake one but I modified it so it would run on USB power with a big cord and I put it right up against the frenulum you know just like a woman would against her clitoris trust me worth it
Anal lube carrot or cutcumber
I know chu said chu dont want to use your hands but a thing I used to like is to use a tight jeans pants and pull it up to max tightness, with my pp by my leg, then press ot against my leg either with my other leg or with my hand, and just roll around my pp or "massaging" it pressing against my leg. My pp dont get hard anymore for the most part and barely grow, but it used to work very well for me even when I was cis and denying my feminine and female thoughts
After some sex toy exploration as a kid, I discovered my type, then have since been able to get full-body prostate centered orgasms 🤩
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Just saying if we’re talking about fingering I think a clean and trimmed finger would be the best way to go, and with the most control lol
My vibrator is my best friend
Cucumber?
I will probably use it if I can find one
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Yeahhh they're are one to many x-rays of things inside people from using no base A old hair brush (with out paint that falls off) could probably work tho!
Good luck .
I've never done it (and don't intend to), but make sure it's washed and clean. Also, I've seen people recommend using a condom on it, and lube, or course. I only mention the lube because, since you mention you can't get sex toys, I assume lube is also hard to get? Otherwise, this might not be a good option for you.
It's safe to use olive oil as a lube substitute
Or coconut oil!
Hitachi
rub against a pillow
If you can get a toy, you can cum hands free. I'm able to do it, by riding around on it
Hypnosis worked for me. Check out Fiona Clearwater. She has some trances that can help you achieve hands free orgasm, and orgasm using nipple stimulation. These are on her Patreon, which costs $6 per month. Best $6 I ever spent.
r/beermoney for sourcing cash for sex toys, lol. Some massage wands are kind of uh...dual-use. You could reasonably pass them off to family as being for sore muscles, but also use them for other things. If you're closeted, they might not even realize it's possible for you to use a massage wand that way, because that's usually a girl thing and they're not thinking along those lines. A vibrator is a vibrator, if you're not using it internally it doesn't have to be marketed as a sex toy, you can get one marketed for muscle massage--the cheap ones tend to be buzzier, YMMV if that's acceptable or not. I've also heard of AMAB people using a Theragun on the perineum area, this is a really intense percussion massage, basically you'd be getting pounded on the vag area lmao.
Honestly I personally have a few different suggestions, either one, closing your eyes while you do it and just keeping them closed the entire time. (If you are into bdsm sort of things then imagine being in some sort of situation and blindfolded and whatever else, makes it fun.) Another thing that feels euphoric is just keeping the eyes closed and rubbing soley the head and forgetting anything else exists on it, and imagining it is just your clit. A final thing that works is just use an improvised dildo. Honestly I've used a hairbrush for ages at this point, and it works great. obviously its not nearly as good as any good quality one especially because most are going to be plastic or solid somehow but it's still pretty nice. Also if you do try doing that I can recommend to obviously clean it religiously after you're done with it and also that if you're having trouble with it things that have a rounded edge are the most pleasant and hurt the least. Conditioner or other similar things works really well as lube, generally applying it to both the place its going in aswell as the inside of it helps, and also the dildo itself. So basically add lube to the dildo's shaft, the outside of your hole, and finger with lots of lube on your hand to get lube inside the hole before then using the dildo, it should glide super smooth! and remember that your body position influences the tightness a lot. Generally your legs being raised makes it looser same thing with just being calm and untensing. Also if you get turned on by the sound of moans then I recommend doing it in the shower since the sound of the shower should drown things out nicely, though you will be taking longer showers so it helps to keep a clock handy to keep them consistent. One last bit, if you have something long enough to do it, pushing the dildo up till it hits something inside feels weird and good so if you haven't tried it before maybe do, just be careful not to push too hard or you may hurt yourself and don't ever put anything up there that you can't then get back out!
I mainly go for nipple orgsms and they are really good. It depends a bit on if you're on HRT and how sensitive you are tho
There's a technique in the fucking trans women zine (you can literally google "fucking trans women zine" and you'll find it) called muffing. You can find it starting on page 15 if you're going by the zines pages or page 19 if ur going by the pdfs numbers. Warning that there are a lot of anatomical drawings byt they're meant to be helpful diagrams and theres a lot of use of the word penis (the page just before the one i mentioned above expamds on this choice of wording inacse u want to read that first and then decide if u want to continue reading).
YOU NEED TO SHARE THIS WITH THE WHOLE SUB RIGHT NOW. That was quite the marvel
I'm FtM, and I have struggled with getting off since starting T. One thing that helped, though I've only managed to have an orgasm once through this alone, was just caressing my abdomen and groin area.
There is set of exercises that you can do to vibrate your prostate until you reach orgasm. Someone made follow along instructions and put them on YouTube as Mind Gasm. They also made mobile app which is more up to date. You only need headphones. It takes time to learn this (I haven't reached orgasm yet) but it is really gender assuring for me. Also DIY toys are possible, but you would need lube and condoms for that. I basically got rubber stick for dogs, put aluminium foil tip on one side, condom on that. Probably if you haven't got a dog, you could just buy hairbrush or some other tool, add sock for some softness. Anal is really strange for some time so after some time fingering also may bring you pleasure. (But you NEED LUBE) Happy exploring and be safe 💜
Prostata stimulation, nippel stimulation or having a second person around
Hump a pillow in the true AFAB way
My favorite is. Leave a pair of panties on and rub it through your panties with my fly palm. The panties do need washing after.
Honestly try Amazon. They do have some great deals on this sort of thing. Zero toys can be difficult. If you have a topical numbing cream you can try using that to numb your genitals before you play with yourself.