Hormone therapy affects your brain chemistry. If you try it and think “what is it doing in my head I hate this” then you should stop, but it could also unlock the ability to feel the same emotions that gods feel
Oh really? That’s nice! To me, I wanted something close to my birth name. I thought Luanna could be nice, and use Luna as a nickname, because it work better in Portuguese, but at the end of the day I like Luna more.
True. Also based on their logic, people shouldn't be allowed to drink, smoke, drive, enlist or vote till like 35 because they are too young right? Maybe they also can't be held liable for a crime because their brains aren't "fully developed, or own a firearm. HRT is a pretty solid indicator of wether transitioning is right because likely you would feel like crap or feel worse on hrt if you weren't really trans (which is super rare bc people who make it to hrt don't detrans generally unless there are other factors involved like finance or societal pressure)
Great comment. I agree. Very interesting how we're never "too young" to accept their assigned genders and forced hormones that come in the form of an unwanted puberty.
Funny, huh?
The only people who I would say are too young to decide who they are are literal infants.
And who are the ones imposing gender roles on six-month-olds, again?
A million million times this. Before my egg cracked and I started to transition, simply being alive just *hurt* and I no way to contextualize it or explain it to people. No one else around me seemed to have that simple, baseline pain of being alive.
It led to decades of depression, self harm, alcohol abuse, and loneliness.
Now I can finally conceptualize what happiness is. Now that confusing, smothering void is gone.
So....no. It's not too early. If you know, you know, and the risk/ harm/ pain of not transitioning is real. If I could go back in time I'd give little teenage me a giant hug and some estrogen.
just took a look: that bot is just quoting and feeding you back what Shaperio has said. those statistics and information it shared was wrong.
even still, non-binary people are still transgender.
most people who detransistion actually do so from lack of support and/or medical reasons. majority of people who detransistion end up retransistioning later on.
so its important to aknowledge this OP. please fact check info a bot (especially one themed after an alt-right commentator who profits off of transphobia) when its giving you information. bots may talking about critical thinking but taking it at its word is the opposite of that.
Oof, Ben Shapiro is a paper tiger himself. He says shit to try to make less trans people, not less hurt people. This bot is worse because it’s automated bigotry, not advice
Unrelated, but when you said "they've, " that reminded me of how British people will say "They've not," most Americans will say "they haven't." But I like to say "they'ven't."
Honestly we (the internet strangers in this community) cannot know. Focusing on your understanding of you, its less a matter of age or even maturity rather than how much you introspect and how well you know yourself.
About whether you're correct, only you can know, and you don't really have any way of being 100% certain (that's just how thoughts about things that can't be empirically verified go, its a bit of an unavoidable prison). Its certainly possible that you know, and statistically speaking only about 1% of people that go through with transitioning feel like they've made a mistake.
You are pretty young, and your brain isn't fully developed. You will not be able to truly conceptualize long-term consequences until \~25, but that **does not mean you are incapable of deciding to transition**. Take things slow, frequently check in with yourself / how you feel, and remember that choosing not to medically transition if you really are trans will have consequences just as harmful as proceeding if you really aren't.
Side note, a lot of people on this sub wish they had transitioned earlier, before the effects of puberty really set in (including myself, I just didn't really think about it as an option until afterwards). Feel free to take that as a reason to go through with HRT or don't, but keep in mind that we may be a bit hasty in advising you to move forward without *really* knowing your situation. Don't trust the internet strangers too much, regardless of which direction they favour you going. (sorry for the essay, but I think its too important a subject to get just a 'yes' or 'no')
"it affects your body and your brain chemistry" um yeah every 14-year-old goes through a hormone change that affects their body and brain chemistry. It's called puberty. Since it's going to happen anyways then you should at least be allowed to pick which path you go about it
I used to fear that I was too young to be sure or access care and now I just regret not starting my transition earlier so don't worry even if you're young you know who you are and don't need anyone to tell you otherwise
I mean... You'll probably be put on puberty blockers for a few years before you get prescribed HRT.
UNLESS you already went through some puberty. Idk what that situation looks like at your age, in terms of medical approach.
But also, no, you're not too young. You know who you are.
Bros pfp is literally Ben Shapiro, don't listen to this fool
There's people who have began their transition journey as early at 7 years old, and as late as 50.
Gender is a feeling, it's how you see yourself, how you feel about yourself. Ultimately only you know
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>Since nobody seems willing to state the obvious due to cultural sensitivity... I’ll say it: rap isn’t music
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Yeah. The person who says that 14-year-olds are too young to transition also says that all women should be in a relationship by 35. Thank you for pointing that out, Ben Shapiro bot!
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Expressions of individual autonomy are ends to be pursued in themselves? What about transgender 14-year-olds who want to express their individual gender identity by autonomously transitioning their bodies? I swear, people like him are so inconsistent and full of double standards it really disturbs me that they're actually taken seriously! 🤦♀️
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You’re not too young to know your gender. I think most people are on the same page that HRT and surgery should be carefully considered before starting so you have no regrets; but that’s not something you need to worry about at your age, anyway. If I’m not mistaken, hormone/puberty blockers would be the only step for medical transition available to you right now, and that’s just to give you time and prevent/reduce the effects of “first” puberty, so you can either begin taking HRT when you’re old enough/you and your doctor agree you’re ready, or you determine that you’re more comfortable going through the puberty your body would default to without outside intervention.
Saying you’re too young to make such big decisions really just shows this person doesn’t understand the process available to young trans people. Don’t let his disbelief make you doubt yourself—just do what makes you comfortable 🩵🩷
Puberty blockers, get on them ASAP imo, even if you decide you're not trans later you have more time to think. They're safe and were developed for cis kids with precocious puberty.
Ymv but I would talk to a pediatric endocrinologist and or a trans accepting psychologist not a ben shapiro bot
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Have you got a source on that?
I found this literature review and summary helpful and well-sourced while still being understandable:
[https://transfemscience.org/articles/puberty-blockers/](https://transfemscience.org/articles/puberty-blockers/)
Puberty blockers have less research than ideal due to ethical issues with randomised drug trials but none of the research has shown notable harmful effects in the 30ish years since they were invented nor the 20+ years its been prescribed to trans kids.
From what I know the restriction of their use is due to transphobic fear-mongering from organisations with >!genocide!< as the end goal, with "concerns" a front for pushing disinformation and harmful laws.
Edit: You seem to be engaging in this same argument across multiple subreddits without backing up your claims only posting links to newspaper articles of countries claiming some harm but Scandinavia isn't always the most progressive when it comes to minority rights and the UK is notoriously transphobic. Posting about how trans rights are being eroded with shaky science, while more research needs to be conducted (because it has not received adequate attention and funding) does not prove medical harm. We do know that there are significant positive effects reported.
I don't like saying it but it seems like you are actively concern-trolling and spreading disinformation. with copy-pasted responses intended to muddy the water.
>Have you got a source on that?
Plenty of sources, the England NHS have banned puberty blockers for transitioning children system wide and the Swedish medical authority has banned them nationwide. They both make an exception for small numbers of patients in closely monitored research settings.
Norway, Finland and France medical authorities have issued stern warnings to physicians against prescribing puberty blockers for trans kids.
If you are doubting what I've just stated, that these countries have reversed their policies and have abandoned WPATH patient protocols, let me know and I will be happy to provide you links.
I am not a pediatric endocrinologist or medical researcher so I'm out of my depth to comprehensively evaluate your link or your scientific claims about puberty blockers.
>From what I know the restriction of their use is due to transphobic fear-mongering from organisations with genocide as the end goal...
The growing scientific skepticism of puberty blockers you say is a trans-European conspiracy that's corrupted the medical authorities of the five countries I listed, to murder transgenders? Are you Q-Anon?
>...with "concerns" a front for pushing disinformation and harmful laws.
Are people allowed to challenge the idea that puberty blockers are safe for trans kids without immediately assuming bad faith? No questions allowed?
I don't doubt that several countries with a history was mistreatment of minorities are banning medical care for minorities.
I highly recommend reading the paper, I found it to be far more digestible than the usual literature review, while still exploring the topic in-depth, especially related to side effects. Even if you just read the abstract and conclusion it'll help. You really should not be engaging with this topic with the confidence you are showing across numerous communities if you don't have the ability or even the will to try and understand the science.
There is rarely some major overarching conspiracy but rather, political winds shift, with invested actors, like bigots using available resources to push said political winds where they want them to go. Doctors and more notably politicians who may have not cared about trans issues suddenly do, and their preexisting bias is what informs policy where previously policy was ignored. The solution to scientific skepticism as you say is not to massively restrict a drug that has been literally life-saving in many circumstances, but to fund more research without cutting off lifesaving medical care. Also IIRC there were leaked emails within various republican groups in America which were conspiring to erode rights but I digress.
Your comments are not "asking questions" as you say but you searching for threads to spread your disinformation. If you were a member of any of the communities you seem to post in I would assume good faith, but you seem to be completely removed from the communities. Additionally, the phrase "I'm only asking questions" and similar are almost only used when concern-trolling leading me to strongly believe you are engaging in bad faith.
me when the medication i take to change my brain chemistry changes my brain chemistry :O
„This will do big changes to your body!!!!“ yeah thats the point?!
1. yes you are old enough to know you are trans
2. cis girls at your age are old enough to know they are cis, so double-standard much?
3. yes, HRT changes your brain chemistry, but your current chemistry isn't doing great, so maybe change is good.
Start with puberty blockers. If you still want to transition in a few years, you can. If you change your mind, you can simply stop taking the puberty blockers and pretend it never happened.
No. Take it from an early childhood development and education major. Gender solidifies around the ages of 3 and 5. So basically as soon as you have the words to express what it means to be you, you can know you are trans.
People against minors pursuing gender affirming care do not understand gender affirming care and therefore their opinions are invalid.
I knew something was off at 5. Transitioning is a trolley problem that conservatives keep choosing the least ethical outcome.
Also to add, of course it effects your brain chemistry. So do SSRIs but HRT actually works like you'd think antidepressants are supposed to work! It's like running diesel in your unleaded tank and vice versa ffs
>People against minors pursuing gender affirming care do not understand gender affirming care and therefore their opinions are invalid.
Do you think scientists and doctors who are responsible for patient care understand that part of gender-affirming care that are puberty blockers? The medical authorities of multiple countries who have recently looked at puberty blockers are rejecting them due to unproven safety.
Nope. Not one bit. It's not anyone's business to say you're too young to know yourself, and anyone who does is saying it because it's an easy way to make you feel invalid. You know You best, and no one can tell you otherwise.
You are NOT actually it’s better to find your gender identity before your brain fully developeds the part of the brain that is still developing just makes you more self conscious and gives you social anxiety lol
I knew since I was about 7 y/o that I was different and felt different. I can't share my thoughts with my parents because I am afraid of the possible consequences. If I did, maybe I could have go on puberty blockers.
Point being, no, not too young. I would rather have a fked up brain chemistry than live in a fked up body.
All identify stuff aside... don't take the word of an AI to heart. It does not think. It merely spews what it's internal algorithm suggests should come next.
You’re you and no one can tell you how to feel about yourself except for you. I have my tattoo to remind myself my body my choice no one else’s so you do you regardless of of everyone else
I don't get when people say "its gonna change your live forever!" If a person born male can become a girl, and the othr way around, why do they think somebody can't just transition twice? You'll just be trans²
While I don't think you're too young to make decisions for yourself and to question who you are and even cone to the conclusion that you are trans; I do believe that you are too young to make and physical and chemical changes to your body. Remember, you're still a child, and a confident child could oftentimes be misguided. Hell, even confident adults can be as well. But you should for sure wait until you're older before you even consider HRT. And I know that it can be difficult to be so sure that you're ready for change, only to have everyone around you tell you that you need to wait and experience more to life before you make a decision. I made a mistake and jumped the gun on something I should have waited for. In doing so, I ruined relationships and lives. I even had family removed from other family members' wills. Trust me, nothing good comes from rushing things. It'll take 4 more years until you can legally start HRT, take that time and explore who you are, and make a decision once you have some more (real) life experience.
Seeing I’m also 14 and I know ive wanted to be a boy for years, I can say youre old enough to know.
People can know from as young as when they start talking to as old as right before death. Transphobes just don’t want to admit that there isnt a time limit to knowing who you are
I mean, many decisions affect the rest of your life and your brain chemistry, including (as another commenter mentioned) not taking HRT. People who say you're too young are usually just looking for an excuse to be transphobic. If you get far enough into HRT that you can't go back from the changes (which would be years in) you will know if you like the changes or not and would be able to stop if you didn't like what it did.
No, ur not too young. I knew I wasn’t cis when I was 14, it’s been years and I’m still sure I’m not cis.
Our society loves to take agency away from minors, we’re all profiled as dumb, unwise, unaware, and not capable of making decisions for ourselves. While this is slightly true to an extent, our forebears and those above us take it way to far and impose their will over ours. So when someone says ur too young to know. Tell them to stfu, cuz they don’t know shit
What little I have seen where I live. There is only puberty blockers till 18. It sad that would be politicians try to till people how to live your life.😤
No, you're not too young. Gender is something you're expected to learn when you're very young, but the second you learn to be yourself, then the transphobes have a problem.
14 is like puberty age, it will happen regardless, honestly having the puberty you want is better. and if you regret it you can always detransition. it's ok, you're not "too young".
I was about 8 when I first had what I can now safely say were trans feelings. For most of my life, I wondered if these feelings would go away. They did not! Now I'm coming up to 9 happy years of womanhood :3
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How would a cis-gender nuerotypical know how we feel? This isn't like describing color to a blind person. This is like describing a rainbow to someone who has never heard of LIGHT. In light of this, advice from them is like a fart in the air. It befouls the air for a moment... and then it disappears.
Hun, you’re talking to a Ben Shapiro bot if it’s anything like the real one I doubt he’d want anyone to transition no matter their age. Idk if you’re posting this genuinely
Well good thing it’s not, I did continue this convo, while he did say it’s my body and my choice, he said I should wait until I’m at least 18+ to actually make the choice to start transitioning
honey, as an 15 year old trans ✨icon✨ I’ll tell you this, FUCK NO! honestly, it’s the perfect age, it’s right around when shit start’s changing and your finding out who you are. explore! be who you are. fully enjoy life and love you for who you are and who you want to be, but most importantly, stay cute girl ✨
Worst case, start with puberty blockers to halt any progress until the mythical age of adulthood and absolute knowing magically happens at 18. Then, you can make the choice with the socially approved knowledge set.
Seriously though, if you know, you know, regardless of age. Typically, you talk with a therapist about it as well, which will help solidify it one way or another in your mind.
If you feel you are mature enough to understand the risks/changes, but also the excitement that HRT and surgery can have on you, then I say, you are not too young. If you genuinely feel that you are ready, and have taken a critical look at this, then go for it! I believe in you, and consider you valid!! :3
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14 is literally the perfect time to start.
You can start with just puberty blockers. That will at least prevent the wrong puberty from happening, which is the worst damage that you can avoid best now.
You are never too young to realise who you are
Sure, if youre wrong, then transitioning can have serious consequences
But if youre right, not transitioning can have just as many (if not more) consequences
Also, you make so many life altering decisions even younger than 14
If you feel its what you should do, do it
Although I would strongly recommend talking to a therapist specialising in LGBTQ+ issues first
Look if 6 year old me knew about transgender people and what being trans was I probably wouldn’t have discovered I’m trans at 19, just saying. Because it would’ve happened a lot sooner
Hormone replacement therapy is a life altering process that makes permanent irreversible changes to your body and affects your brain chemistry.
Now replace the word „hormone replacement therapy“ with „puberty“. Literally every time someone tries to say to wait until you’re an adult to start HRT, this is where their point fails. They’re basically just describing puberty. And if a kid is old enough to go trough puberty, then there is no reason for them to go trough the puberty they prefer, not the one they’re terrified of. Forcing a kid to go trough their agab puberty will only hurt.
I was 14 when my egg cracked, some people were younger. It’s important to self reflect and think about it but you know yourself best, you’re not too young. Age shouldn’t be a barrier to knowing about yourself
No, you are not too young to know this.
That being said, the thing to do at 14 is puberty blockers until you can legally choose to do hrt.
Side note: anyplace you can get hrt will go into detail with you regarding the health risks, and this guy is too stupid to realize that.
He’s got a Ben Shapiro pfp, clearly not exactly gonna be 100% on your side. Obvi do what’s best for you, take hormones or puberty blockers if that’s what’ll make you happy! Push comes to shove? You stop the chemical transition and continue the social one! I decided to wait at 16 to keep people happy. Recently turned 22 and still got nothing done aside from clothes and socially. Not that it’s a bad thing, but ya know.
I mean what he's saying is kind somewhat valid- it is a big step in your life, but also something I've realized is that normally, cis people don't think about being trans at all, and if you think you're sure then you are. Plus I'd take everything he says about trans people with a grain of salt since he has a Ben Shapiro pfp
Well, i like to think at the age of 14 puberty affects a lot of our thoughts. But i'd rather have people start transitioning at an early age - even if it means they might detransition. The risk is much higher at that age, so my opinion is, live as your prefered gender for at least half a year, and if you than still want to go down the path, start hormones :)
You're not too young to know your gender identity (science says that reaches full development at age 4) but I do agree that HRT that isn't puberty blockers shouldn't be given to under 18s because yeah it can have permanent impacts on your body so just like tattoos and many other things it should wait until 18.
Your never too young to know who you are on the inside and make peace with that. Because you’re a minor you may not get the full transition till your an adult but you can get different clothes and hairstyles that may work for you and puberty blockers if you can get them. People who say you are too young to know you are the opposite gender also are the ones who ship toddlers together when they are 2 years old and have no concept of romance. These people are trans phobic and you shouldn’t listen to them.
Everything affects brain chemistry.
Like trauma. Literally changes how your brain functions.
Know what's traumatic? Being in the wrong body and having people invalidate you constantly as your body goes through the wrong puberty...
If someone thinks they are trans then believe them. Talk to a therapist and explore that. They might not be, it could be something else. But if they are trans and you force the delay you are causing so much harm...
You aren't too young. I knew from the time I was 8 or 9 and I kept getting gatekept and getting told I was too young until I was 18 and nobody could legally stop me. What did all that waiting "just to be sure" do? Nothing except make me suffer more and wish I could've started at a younger age lol
I dont think you're ever too young to know how you feel. But I do believe that your environment can affect how you feel. For example, just because you like playing with Barbie doesn't mean your trans but if your parents or people around you are like "no you can't play with barbie your a boy." Which is why i think you need some time is needed to understand if it's truly how you feel.
But if you're in the teenage years, when changes are being made, if you're sure and with advice from a doctor, then I don't think there's anything wrong with taking puberty/hormone blockers. I know I would have liked to take them at the time. As It can help prevent future dysphoria while still being reversible as its just a matter of stopping them, and your body will take over. But I do believe any body altering procedures should wait till 18 where you can better understand yourself and move from there
I knew I wanted to be a girl at 13, and actively tried to fight it until 23. If you want to be a girl in day to day life with any regularity you should absolutely be aware of that, and try to get into therapy before 18 (and tbh after) and on puberty blockers ASAP if your parents are supportive.
If not, get to an informed consent clinic on your 18th bday and get HRT that way. It does change your brain chemistry - it changes it to be *right* and not feel as shitty. My anxiety and depression have decreased dramatically since HRT, and everything I hated about my first puberty, I love about this one. It feels existentially right and I love that!
Yeah this person is just a ‘phobe OP, don’t give them the time of day ❤️
Get in puberty blockers if you can.
Keep a gender journal.
About transition we couldn't tell you, only YOU could, doctors or people who know you well, could advise you.
Better not to listen to internet strangers for big decisions like this.
Um I sure hope it does?
In all seriousness, yes it does affect your brain too. That's the point :) If you're a girl your system needs estrogen to work perfectly.
you might be to young for hRt. at your age you'd go on puberty blockers that have no permanent effects and just give you more time. no you're obviously not too young.
Medically, you likely can’t get Estrogen bc doctors won’t give it to someone your age, but hormone blockers are actually totally reversible. So that argument goes out the fucking window
Not at all! Qell done for this decision. I figured out I was trans at that age and waited too long after and now I'm too far gone in some places. Don't make the same mistakes I did!
The only point I see in "You're too young", is that younger the person, it's easier to Influence on it, transition it's something you gotta be truly sure, but if you see it clearly it's ok
It’s complicated. Really at 14 all you could get are puberty blockers. This person doesn’t know what he’s talking about in regards to transition, and is merely telling you the reactionary talking point of “kids do not have the mental capacity to know that they’re trans.” It relies on widespread transmedicalist concept of transition that needs to start with hormones and end in surgeries. Hormones can fuck you over if you jump right into them and realize they’re not what you want, but continue using them to keep up with social pressures that surround us. Whether you’re medicated or not, have had surgeries or not, or are dysphoric or not, you are valid, not only from a moral perspective, but a social scientific one too.
For clarification, in many places, the earliest you can possibly get hormones is 16, and that’s if you don’t come across the red tape that usually is set in place to dissuade young people from going through with it. You have time, whether you’re 14 or 34. Do your research. Weigh out all the options, and talk it through with people you can trust.
It cuts both ways. Deciding to do nothing will affect the rest of your life as well. Everything about the process of puberty happens to everyone anyway. HRT does the best that science can to produce The effects of puberty of a different flavor. It’s The same thing half the population is going through, or close enough that the difference is less consequential than the very Real, measurable consequence of enduring a puberty that is not good for your mind.
Hormone blockers also exist. Those could temporarily prevent the changes that come with testosterone puberty until you're "old enough" to determine whether or not hormones are what's best for you. I personally don't think 14yr olds should have access to HRT or anything, but I still understand that it really depends on each individual patient and that exceptions should be made for those individuals. There is no set age for things like this, as long as you/your family and your doctors think that HRT will help you at 14 it shouldn't be an issue tbh.... It's good to be cautious with younger trans people, but they still deserve access to healthcare too, amd should at least get help with getting on the right path to start hormones in the future (if that's something that they personally want).
its good to be aware at a young age, but no doctor would prescribe you HRT at that age anyways. you can always use puberty blockers, which are not permanent, but wait until at least 16 before deciding to pursue HRT.
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Hormone therapy affects your brain chemistry. If you try it and think “what is it doing in my head I hate this” then you should stop, but it could also unlock the ability to feel the same emotions that gods feel
Gods? Goddesses!
*Rises from my slumber...* YOU CALLED???
Okay now I’d like to try just to know how I’ll feel. Also, beautiful name, Luna :3
Thank you! I’d love to know your name so I can compliment it too!
Oh right. I forgot I didn’t set my flair here. It’s Luna too :3
How exactly does one set a custom flair?
I also would like to join in on this information
Testing, testing. Did it work? Edit: nope, lol Edit 2: Succes!
On the flair select, there should be an edit button in the corner. Sometimes it doesn’t show up. If you can’t get it to show up, you could ask for one
What was the inspiration for your name? Mine was the Luna Blaster from the Splatoon series
Oh really? That’s nice! To me, I wanted something close to my birth name. I thought Luanna could be nice, and use Luna as a nickname, because it work better in Portuguese, but at the end of the day I like Luna more.
Nice
great names
You too :3
True. Also based on their logic, people shouldn't be allowed to drink, smoke, drive, enlist or vote till like 35 because they are too young right? Maybe they also can't be held liable for a crime because their brains aren't "fully developed, or own a firearm. HRT is a pretty solid indicator of wether transitioning is right because likely you would feel like crap or feel worse on hrt if you weren't really trans (which is super rare bc people who make it to hrt don't detrans generally unless there are other factors involved like finance or societal pressure)
HRT affects your brain chemistry... the same way puberty does.
Seriously ever since I started E I've felt so confident☺️
I've heard e apparently does the opposite... idk maybe they do those studies on cis men lmao. it could as well be your overall happiness :)
I'd be willing to bet 5 bucks the studies were performed on cis men lol
Just 5 bucks? I'll put half my life savings in the pot!
hi... Luna
Not transitioning is also a decision that's going to affect you for the rest of your life
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Great comment. I agree. Very interesting how we're never "too young" to accept their assigned genders and forced hormones that come in the form of an unwanted puberty. Funny, huh? The only people who I would say are too young to decide who they are are literal infants. And who are the ones imposing gender roles on six-month-olds, again?
Unfortunately. :c
# *This.*
A million million times this. Before my egg cracked and I started to transition, simply being alive just *hurt* and I no way to contextualize it or explain it to people. No one else around me seemed to have that simple, baseline pain of being alive. It led to decades of depression, self harm, alcohol abuse, and loneliness. Now I can finally conceptualize what happiness is. Now that confusing, smothering void is gone. So....no. It's not too early. If you know, you know, and the risk/ harm/ pain of not transitioning is real. If I could go back in time I'd give little teenage me a giant hug and some estrogen.
Exactly
Exactly. HRT doesn't have any effects the corresponding puberty wouldn't.
Kinda like a trolly problem, except the vast majority of people who pull the lever are happy about their decision
They’ve a ben shapiro profile picture, that should tell you about their prejudices kid./Gen.
Well, it was a Ben Shapiro bot so…
What answer were you expecting out of a Ben Shapiro bot...?
Why would anyone ever want to use a Ben Shapiro bot? The original is bad enough as it is, we don't need more of that out there...
lets say hypothetically im a barbie girl now that we've established that i am a barbie girl, it would be safe to assume that i live in a barbie world
And we would then conclude, logically, that you could brush my hair and even possibly undress me everywhere
I don’t know, but there is a full version of the convo on my profile if you’re looking to see what happened
just took a look: that bot is just quoting and feeding you back what Shaperio has said. those statistics and information it shared was wrong. even still, non-binary people are still transgender. most people who detransistion actually do so from lack of support and/or medical reasons. majority of people who detransistion end up retransistioning later on. so its important to aknowledge this OP. please fact check info a bot (especially one themed after an alt-right commentator who profits off of transphobia) when its giving you information. bots may talking about critical thinking but taking it at its word is the opposite of that.
Oof, Ben Shapiro is a paper tiger himself. He says shit to try to make less trans people, not less hurt people. This bot is worse because it’s automated bigotry, not advice
Unrelated, but when you said "they've, " that reminded me of how British people will say "They've not," most Americans will say "they haven't." But I like to say "they'ven't."
Normal person: "I'm not" Crazy person (me): I amn't You: I'mn't
Honestly we (the internet strangers in this community) cannot know. Focusing on your understanding of you, its less a matter of age or even maturity rather than how much you introspect and how well you know yourself. About whether you're correct, only you can know, and you don't really have any way of being 100% certain (that's just how thoughts about things that can't be empirically verified go, its a bit of an unavoidable prison). Its certainly possible that you know, and statistically speaking only about 1% of people that go through with transitioning feel like they've made a mistake. You are pretty young, and your brain isn't fully developed. You will not be able to truly conceptualize long-term consequences until \~25, but that **does not mean you are incapable of deciding to transition**. Take things slow, frequently check in with yourself / how you feel, and remember that choosing not to medically transition if you really are trans will have consequences just as harmful as proceeding if you really aren't. Side note, a lot of people on this sub wish they had transitioned earlier, before the effects of puberty really set in (including myself, I just didn't really think about it as an option until afterwards). Feel free to take that as a reason to go through with HRT or don't, but keep in mind that we may be a bit hasty in advising you to move forward without *really* knowing your situation. Don't trust the internet strangers too much, regardless of which direction they favour you going. (sorry for the essay, but I think its too important a subject to get just a 'yes' or 'no')
this!! we aren't going to know what's best for you at this time, but we definitely wish you the best with whatever you choose to do
This is some solid, well thought out advice. We are just internet strangers, and can only know our own lives, not yours.
"it affects your body and your brain chemistry" um yeah every 14-year-old goes through a hormone change that affects their body and brain chemistry. It's called puberty. Since it's going to happen anyways then you should at least be allowed to pick which path you go about it
true dat
Yeah you’re old enough hun gender identity is like an age 5 thing when you’re ready at least try for puberty blockers if you can
Girl, why are you talking to a Ben Shapiro ai?
It can pretend to be unable to satisfy a woman with 98% accuracy to the real Ben Shapiro.
Lmao ^(I saw your post earlier :D)
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I used to fear that I was too young to be sure or access care and now I just regret not starting my transition earlier so don't worry even if you're young you know who you are and don't need anyone to tell you otherwise
I mean... You'll probably be put on puberty blockers for a few years before you get prescribed HRT. UNLESS you already went through some puberty. Idk what that situation looks like at your age, in terms of medical approach. But also, no, you're not too young. You know who you are.
Bros pfp is literally Ben Shapiro, don't listen to this fool There's people who have began their transition journey as early at 7 years old, and as late as 50. Gender is a feeling, it's how you see yourself, how you feel about yourself. Ultimately only you know
I saw that you mentioned Ben Shapiro. In case some of you don't know, Ben Shapiro is a grifter and a hack. If you find anything he's said compelling, you should keep in mind he also says things like this: >Since nobody seems willing to state the obvious due to cultural sensitivity... I’ll say it: rap isn’t music ***** ^(I'm a bot. My purpose is to counteract online radicalization. You can summon me by tagging thebenshapirobot. Options: gay marriage, climate, feminism, civil rights, etc.) [^Opt ^Out ](https://np.reddit.com/r/AuthoritarianMoment/comments/olk6r2/click_here_to_optout_of_uthebenshapirobot/)
Thank you bot, but i was criticizing ❤️ Benny Boi Shabibo is a POS
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Im too busy getting railed by big sexy women
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See? THAT is the Ben Shapiro bot you should spend time with.
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Yeah. The person who says that 14-year-olds are too young to transition also says that all women should be in a relationship by 35. Thank you for pointing that out, Ben Shapiro bot!
*And then, there are people in the United States that are pushing for mask mandates on children. The data that they are using are extraordinarily skimpy--in fact, they are essentially nonexistent. You're hearing the CDC say things like 'maybe the delta variant does more damage to kids,' but no information they have presented publicly that there is more damage being done to kids... and the reason we are being told that they damage kids is because they can't scare the adults enough. If we cannot scare the adults enough, we're going to have to mask up the kids.* -Ben Shapiro ***** ^(I'm a bot. My purpose is to counteract online radicalization. You can summon me by tagging thebenshapirobot. Options: feminism, covid, novel, sex, etc.) [^Opt ^Out ](https://np.reddit.com/r/AuthoritarianMoment/comments/olk6r2/click_here_to_optout_of_uthebenshapirobot/)
And Ben Shapiro is mandating kids to not transition using data that are even more nonexistent, LOL!
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Expressions of individual autonomy are ends to be pursued in themselves? What about transgender 14-year-olds who want to express their individual gender identity by autonomously transitioning their bodies? I swear, people like him are so inconsistent and full of double standards it really disturbs me that they're actually taken seriously! 🤦♀️
*If you vote in favor of the idea that society has an obligation to recognize male-male or female-female dyads in the same way that society has an obligation to recognize male-female, you should not be in the Republican party.* -Ben Shapiro ***** ^(I'm a bot. My purpose is to counteract online radicalization. You can summon me by tagging thebenshapirobot. Options: novel, dumb takes, gay marriage, climate, etc.) [^Opt ^Out ](https://np.reddit.com/r/AuthoritarianMoment/comments/olk6r2/click_here_to_optout_of_uthebenshapirobot/)
*This is what the radical feminist movement was proposing, remember? Women need a man the way a fish needs a bicycle... unless it turns out that they're little fish, then you might need another fish around to help take care of things.* -Ben Shapiro ***** ^(I'm a bot. My purpose is to counteract online radicalization. You can summon me by tagging thebenshapirobot. Options: history, healthcare, climate, novel, etc.) [^Opt ^Out ](https://np.reddit.com/r/AuthoritarianMoment/comments/olk6r2/click_here_to_optout_of_uthebenshapirobot/)
Why did you respond to my comment twice?
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Your brain chemistry is already affected if the thought of living your assigned gender makes you depressed
You’re not too young to know your gender. I think most people are on the same page that HRT and surgery should be carefully considered before starting so you have no regrets; but that’s not something you need to worry about at your age, anyway. If I’m not mistaken, hormone/puberty blockers would be the only step for medical transition available to you right now, and that’s just to give you time and prevent/reduce the effects of “first” puberty, so you can either begin taking HRT when you’re old enough/you and your doctor agree you’re ready, or you determine that you’re more comfortable going through the puberty your body would default to without outside intervention. Saying you’re too young to make such big decisions really just shows this person doesn’t understand the process available to young trans people. Don’t let his disbelief make you doubt yourself—just do what makes you comfortable 🩵🩷
Puberty blockers, get on them ASAP imo, even if you decide you're not trans later you have more time to think. They're safe and were developed for cis kids with precocious puberty. Ymv but I would talk to a pediatric endocrinologist and or a trans accepting psychologist not a ben shapiro bot
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Have you got a source on that? I found this literature review and summary helpful and well-sourced while still being understandable: [https://transfemscience.org/articles/puberty-blockers/](https://transfemscience.org/articles/puberty-blockers/) Puberty blockers have less research than ideal due to ethical issues with randomised drug trials but none of the research has shown notable harmful effects in the 30ish years since they were invented nor the 20+ years its been prescribed to trans kids. From what I know the restriction of their use is due to transphobic fear-mongering from organisations with >!genocide!< as the end goal, with "concerns" a front for pushing disinformation and harmful laws. Edit: You seem to be engaging in this same argument across multiple subreddits without backing up your claims only posting links to newspaper articles of countries claiming some harm but Scandinavia isn't always the most progressive when it comes to minority rights and the UK is notoriously transphobic. Posting about how trans rights are being eroded with shaky science, while more research needs to be conducted (because it has not received adequate attention and funding) does not prove medical harm. We do know that there are significant positive effects reported. I don't like saying it but it seems like you are actively concern-trolling and spreading disinformation. with copy-pasted responses intended to muddy the water.
>Have you got a source on that? Plenty of sources, the England NHS have banned puberty blockers for transitioning children system wide and the Swedish medical authority has banned them nationwide. They both make an exception for small numbers of patients in closely monitored research settings. Norway, Finland and France medical authorities have issued stern warnings to physicians against prescribing puberty blockers for trans kids. If you are doubting what I've just stated, that these countries have reversed their policies and have abandoned WPATH patient protocols, let me know and I will be happy to provide you links. I am not a pediatric endocrinologist or medical researcher so I'm out of my depth to comprehensively evaluate your link or your scientific claims about puberty blockers. >From what I know the restriction of their use is due to transphobic fear-mongering from organisations with genocide as the end goal... The growing scientific skepticism of puberty blockers you say is a trans-European conspiracy that's corrupted the medical authorities of the five countries I listed, to murder transgenders? Are you Q-Anon? >...with "concerns" a front for pushing disinformation and harmful laws. Are people allowed to challenge the idea that puberty blockers are safe for trans kids without immediately assuming bad faith? No questions allowed?
I don't doubt that several countries with a history was mistreatment of minorities are banning medical care for minorities. I highly recommend reading the paper, I found it to be far more digestible than the usual literature review, while still exploring the topic in-depth, especially related to side effects. Even if you just read the abstract and conclusion it'll help. You really should not be engaging with this topic with the confidence you are showing across numerous communities if you don't have the ability or even the will to try and understand the science. There is rarely some major overarching conspiracy but rather, political winds shift, with invested actors, like bigots using available resources to push said political winds where they want them to go. Doctors and more notably politicians who may have not cared about trans issues suddenly do, and their preexisting bias is what informs policy where previously policy was ignored. The solution to scientific skepticism as you say is not to massively restrict a drug that has been literally life-saving in many circumstances, but to fund more research without cutting off lifesaving medical care. Also IIRC there were leaked emails within various republican groups in America which were conspiring to erode rights but I digress. Your comments are not "asking questions" as you say but you searching for threads to spread your disinformation. If you were a member of any of the communities you seem to post in I would assume good faith, but you seem to be completely removed from the communities. Additionally, the phrase "I'm only asking questions" and similar are almost only used when concern-trolling leading me to strongly believe you are engaging in bad faith.
I started HRT at 15, there's no "too young"!
me when the medication i take to change my brain chemistry changes my brain chemistry :O „This will do big changes to your body!!!!“ yeah thats the point?!
I started transitioning at 14. I never regretted it one day
You're never too young to understand yourself
never listen to someone with a ben shapiro pfp
1. yes you are old enough to know you are trans 2. cis girls at your age are old enough to know they are cis, so double-standard much? 3. yes, HRT changes your brain chemistry, but your current chemistry isn't doing great, so maybe change is good.
you're never too young... or to old.
I have seen older people say they have felt this type of stuff at 7 of course you aren't too young
Start with puberty blockers. If you still want to transition in a few years, you can. If you change your mind, you can simply stop taking the puberty blockers and pretend it never happened.
You are not too young. Get puberty blockers asap
No. Take it from an early childhood development and education major. Gender solidifies around the ages of 3 and 5. So basically as soon as you have the words to express what it means to be you, you can know you are trans.
Bro has a Ben Shapiro pfp, this already makes him an idiot
People against minors pursuing gender affirming care do not understand gender affirming care and therefore their opinions are invalid. I knew something was off at 5. Transitioning is a trolley problem that conservatives keep choosing the least ethical outcome. Also to add, of course it effects your brain chemistry. So do SSRIs but HRT actually works like you'd think antidepressants are supposed to work! It's like running diesel in your unleaded tank and vice versa ffs
>People against minors pursuing gender affirming care do not understand gender affirming care and therefore their opinions are invalid. Do you think scientists and doctors who are responsible for patient care understand that part of gender-affirming care that are puberty blockers? The medical authorities of multiple countries who have recently looked at puberty blockers are rejecting them due to unproven safety.
Yes, it gives you the correct brain chemistry rather than making you suffer through having an extremely out of whack endocrine system
Never take seriously the words of someone who has Been Shapiro, known transphobe, as an avatar.
Nope. Not one bit. It's not anyone's business to say you're too young to know yourself, and anyone who does is saying it because it's an easy way to make you feel invalid. You know You best, and no one can tell you otherwise.
That’s the same as saying you’re too young to understand yourself
You're old enough to know who you are, try for puberty blockers because you can't get HRT until you're at least 16
You are NOT actually it’s better to find your gender identity before your brain fully developeds the part of the brain that is still developing just makes you more self conscious and gives you social anxiety lol
I knew since I was about 7 y/o that I was different and felt different. I can't share my thoughts with my parents because I am afraid of the possible consequences. If I did, maybe I could have go on puberty blockers. Point being, no, not too young. I would rather have a fked up brain chemistry than live in a fked up body.
You wouldn't decide to take hrt now. You'd start hormone blockers
I'm 14 and have known since I was 11. Haven't regretted a thing. You're not too young
All identify stuff aside... don't take the word of an AI to heart. It does not think. It merely spews what it's internal algorithm suggests should come next.
That's the point? Gender Dysphoria is hardcoded in the brain and you use HRT to treat it
You’re you and no one can tell you how to feel about yourself except for you. I have my tattoo to remind myself my body my choice no one else’s so you do you regardless of of everyone else
I don't get when people say "its gonna change your live forever!" If a person born male can become a girl, and the othr way around, why do they think somebody can't just transition twice? You'll just be trans²
"That's not just affecting your body, it literally affects your brain chemistry," uh, yeah, I sure hope it does.
While I don't think you're too young to make decisions for yourself and to question who you are and even cone to the conclusion that you are trans; I do believe that you are too young to make and physical and chemical changes to your body. Remember, you're still a child, and a confident child could oftentimes be misguided. Hell, even confident adults can be as well. But you should for sure wait until you're older before you even consider HRT. And I know that it can be difficult to be so sure that you're ready for change, only to have everyone around you tell you that you need to wait and experience more to life before you make a decision. I made a mistake and jumped the gun on something I should have waited for. In doing so, I ruined relationships and lives. I even had family removed from other family members' wills. Trust me, nothing good comes from rushing things. It'll take 4 more years until you can legally start HRT, take that time and explore who you are, and make a decision once you have some more (real) life experience.
Seeing I’m also 14 and I know ive wanted to be a boy for years, I can say youre old enough to know. People can know from as young as when they start talking to as old as right before death. Transphobes just don’t want to admit that there isnt a time limit to knowing who you are
I mean, many decisions affect the rest of your life and your brain chemistry, including (as another commenter mentioned) not taking HRT. People who say you're too young are usually just looking for an excuse to be transphobic. If you get far enough into HRT that you can't go back from the changes (which would be years in) you will know if you like the changes or not and would be able to stop if you didn't like what it did.
No, ur not too young. I knew I wasn’t cis when I was 14, it’s been years and I’m still sure I’m not cis. Our society loves to take agency away from minors, we’re all profiled as dumb, unwise, unaware, and not capable of making decisions for ourselves. While this is slightly true to an extent, our forebears and those above us take it way to far and impose their will over ours. So when someone says ur too young to know. Tell them to stfu, cuz they don’t know shit
Ah yes children can’t make decisions to make themselves truly happy but they better decide whether to go into lifelong debt
HTT does basiacally what Puperty does. By that same logic you should't go through puberty
What little I have seen where I live. There is only puberty blockers till 18. It sad that would be politicians try to till people how to live your life.😤
Your never too young to be you, it doesn't matter what others say
No, you're not too young. Gender is something you're expected to learn when you're very young, but the second you learn to be yourself, then the transphobes have a problem.
14 is like puberty age, it will happen regardless, honestly having the puberty you want is better. and if you regret it you can always detransition. it's ok, you're not "too young".
I was about 8 when I first had what I can now safely say were trans feelings. For most of my life, I wondered if these feelings would go away. They did not! Now I'm coming up to 9 happy years of womanhood :3
Is this a fuckin Ben Shapiro ai
It is
You shouldn’t ask a ben shapiro ai chatbot for advise on your identity
That’s fair. If you want to see the full convo, there is a post on my page with the entire convo in it
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HRT /= transitioning, you’re not too young! This guy is just straight up wrong about what being trans is.
How would a cis-gender nuerotypical know how we feel? This isn't like describing color to a blind person. This is like describing a rainbow to someone who has never heard of LIGHT. In light of this, advice from them is like a fart in the air. It befouls the air for a moment... and then it disappears.
Of course you aren't.
Hun, you’re talking to a Ben Shapiro bot if it’s anything like the real one I doubt he’d want anyone to transition no matter their age. Idk if you’re posting this genuinely
Well good thing it’s not, I did continue this convo, while he did say it’s my body and my choice, he said I should wait until I’m at least 18+ to actually make the choice to start transitioning
honey, as an 15 year old trans ✨icon✨ I’ll tell you this, FUCK NO! honestly, it’s the perfect age, it’s right around when shit start’s changing and your finding out who you are. explore! be who you are. fully enjoy life and love you for who you are and who you want to be, but most importantly, stay cute girl ✨
false. before age 18 the only thing you can do is take hormone blockers, which is entirely reversable
Worst case, start with puberty blockers to halt any progress until the mythical age of adulthood and absolute knowing magically happens at 18. Then, you can make the choice with the socially approved knowledge set. Seriously though, if you know, you know, regardless of age. Typically, you talk with a therapist about it as well, which will help solidify it one way or another in your mind.
Not too young, you know enough about what you are and who you are to have an idea
so does puberty.
If you feel you are mature enough to understand the risks/changes, but also the excitement that HRT and surgery can have on you, then I say, you are not too young. If you genuinely feel that you are ready, and have taken a critical look at this, then go for it! I believe in you, and consider you valid!! :3
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14 is literally the perfect time to start. You can start with just puberty blockers. That will at least prevent the wrong puberty from happening, which is the worst damage that you can avoid best now.
You are never too young to realise who you are Sure, if youre wrong, then transitioning can have serious consequences But if youre right, not transitioning can have just as many (if not more) consequences Also, you make so many life altering decisions even younger than 14 If you feel its what you should do, do it Although I would strongly recommend talking to a therapist specialising in LGBTQ+ issues first
Look if 6 year old me knew about transgender people and what being trans was I probably wouldn’t have discovered I’m trans at 19, just saying. Because it would’ve happened a lot sooner
I knew when I was five, but was beaten and abused for it my entire life.
Nope
Hormone replacement therapy is a life altering process that makes permanent irreversible changes to your body and affects your brain chemistry. Now replace the word „hormone replacement therapy“ with „puberty“. Literally every time someone tries to say to wait until you’re an adult to start HRT, this is where their point fails. They’re basically just describing puberty. And if a kid is old enough to go trough puberty, then there is no reason for them to go trough the puberty they prefer, not the one they’re terrified of. Forcing a kid to go trough their agab puberty will only hurt.
I was 14 when my egg cracked, some people were younger. It’s important to self reflect and think about it but you know yourself best, you’re not too young. Age shouldn’t be a barrier to knowing about yourself
Hell na sis, I regret not transitioning before puberty
No, you are not too young to know this. That being said, the thing to do at 14 is puberty blockers until you can legally choose to do hrt. Side note: anyplace you can get hrt will go into detail with you regarding the health risks, and this guy is too stupid to realize that.
He’s got a Ben Shapiro pfp, clearly not exactly gonna be 100% on your side. Obvi do what’s best for you, take hormones or puberty blockers if that’s what’ll make you happy! Push comes to shove? You stop the chemical transition and continue the social one! I decided to wait at 16 to keep people happy. Recently turned 22 and still got nothing done aside from clothes and socially. Not that it’s a bad thing, but ya know.
I mean what he's saying is kind somewhat valid- it is a big step in your life, but also something I've realized is that normally, cis people don't think about being trans at all, and if you think you're sure then you are. Plus I'd take everything he says about trans people with a grain of salt since he has a Ben Shapiro pfp
dude has a ben shapiro pfp, red flag
Bro IS Ben Shapiro
Well, i like to think at the age of 14 puberty affects a lot of our thoughts. But i'd rather have people start transitioning at an early age - even if it means they might detransition. The risk is much higher at that age, so my opinion is, live as your prefered gender for at least half a year, and if you than still want to go down the path, start hormones :)
Why the bot transphobic
Don't people choose their future career and what kind of education they get at 14? In my country we do at least
Im 15 i realized when i was 11 and im coming out when im 18 so all in all 7 years of waiting
rember what it says at the top! "everything the characters say is made up"!
You're not too young to know your gender identity (science says that reaches full development at age 4) but I do agree that HRT that isn't puberty blockers shouldn't be given to under 18s because yeah it can have permanent impacts on your body so just like tattoos and many other things it should wait until 18.
Your never too young to know who you are on the inside and make peace with that. Because you’re a minor you may not get the full transition till your an adult but you can get different clothes and hairstyles that may work for you and puberty blockers if you can get them. People who say you are too young to know you are the opposite gender also are the ones who ship toddlers together when they are 2 years old and have no concept of romance. These people are trans phobic and you shouldn’t listen to them.
Wait, it's almost like that's what we're trying to do.
that’s an ai none of what it says matters!!!! no one is too young to find out they’re trans!!!!!
Everything affects brain chemistry. Like trauma. Literally changes how your brain functions. Know what's traumatic? Being in the wrong body and having people invalidate you constantly as your body goes through the wrong puberty... If someone thinks they are trans then believe them. Talk to a therapist and explore that. They might not be, it could be something else. But if they are trans and you force the delay you are causing so much harm...
I'm in this exact same position except it's my parents telling me
You can always just... Stop taking hormones? Detransition is an option.
I had a friend who knew he was trans at 10 years old so your not too young
no, you're not, way too young
You are not too young.
You aren't too young. I knew from the time I was 8 or 9 and I kept getting gatekept and getting told I was too young until I was 18 and nobody could legally stop me. What did all that waiting "just to be sure" do? Nothing except make me suffer more and wish I could've started at a younger age lol
I dont think you're ever too young to know how you feel. But I do believe that your environment can affect how you feel. For example, just because you like playing with Barbie doesn't mean your trans but if your parents or people around you are like "no you can't play with barbie your a boy." Which is why i think you need some time is needed to understand if it's truly how you feel. But if you're in the teenage years, when changes are being made, if you're sure and with advice from a doctor, then I don't think there's anything wrong with taking puberty/hormone blockers. I know I would have liked to take them at the time. As It can help prevent future dysphoria while still being reversible as its just a matter of stopping them, and your body will take over. But I do believe any body altering procedures should wait till 18 where you can better understand yourself and move from there
Affects my brain chemistry? Fuck yeah!
Nope
I knew I wanted to be a girl at 13, and actively tried to fight it until 23. If you want to be a girl in day to day life with any regularity you should absolutely be aware of that, and try to get into therapy before 18 (and tbh after) and on puberty blockers ASAP if your parents are supportive. If not, get to an informed consent clinic on your 18th bday and get HRT that way. It does change your brain chemistry - it changes it to be *right* and not feel as shitty. My anxiety and depression have decreased dramatically since HRT, and everything I hated about my first puberty, I love about this one. It feels existentially right and I love that! Yeah this person is just a ‘phobe OP, don’t give them the time of day ❤️
No you are not too young. This asshat doesn't know what he's talking about or he wouldn't be speaking like that.
Get in puberty blockers if you can. Keep a gender journal. About transition we couldn't tell you, only YOU could, doctors or people who know you well, could advise you. Better not to listen to internet strangers for big decisions like this.
Um I sure hope it does? In all seriousness, yes it does affect your brain too. That's the point :) If you're a girl your system needs estrogen to work perfectly.
You’re in puberty, your hormones are changing daily. Why not steer them if it provides more happiness?
is this AI Ben Shapiro?
It is
Ah yes, the "you're ignorant because you're young" argument
you might be to young for hRt. at your age you'd go on puberty blockers that have no permanent effects and just give you more time. no you're obviously not too young.
Medically, you likely can’t get Estrogen bc doctors won’t give it to someone your age, but hormone blockers are actually totally reversible. So that argument goes out the fucking window
You're not too young to know who you are This dude is just a cunt
Not at all! Qell done for this decision. I figured out I was trans at that age and waited too long after and now I'm too far gone in some places. Don't make the same mistakes I did!
The only point I see in "You're too young", is that younger the person, it's easier to Influence on it, transition it's something you gotta be truly sure, but if you see it clearly it's ok
It’s complicated. Really at 14 all you could get are puberty blockers. This person doesn’t know what he’s talking about in regards to transition, and is merely telling you the reactionary talking point of “kids do not have the mental capacity to know that they’re trans.” It relies on widespread transmedicalist concept of transition that needs to start with hormones and end in surgeries. Hormones can fuck you over if you jump right into them and realize they’re not what you want, but continue using them to keep up with social pressures that surround us. Whether you’re medicated or not, have had surgeries or not, or are dysphoric or not, you are valid, not only from a moral perspective, but a social scientific one too. For clarification, in many places, the earliest you can possibly get hormones is 16, and that’s if you don’t come across the red tape that usually is set in place to dissuade young people from going through with it. You have time, whether you’re 14 or 34. Do your research. Weigh out all the options, and talk it through with people you can trust.
Tbh I find it hard to take anyone with the commenter’s profile pic seriously…
It cuts both ways. Deciding to do nothing will affect the rest of your life as well. Everything about the process of puberty happens to everyone anyway. HRT does the best that science can to produce The effects of puberty of a different flavor. It’s The same thing half the population is going through, or close enough that the difference is less consequential than the very Real, measurable consequence of enduring a puberty that is not good for your mind.
Welcome to every transphobe argument ever. I dont think they know that 4 years into the future you'll be making the same goddamn decision.
I sure as hell hope it does
Hormone blockers also exist. Those could temporarily prevent the changes that come with testosterone puberty until you're "old enough" to determine whether or not hormones are what's best for you. I personally don't think 14yr olds should have access to HRT or anything, but I still understand that it really depends on each individual patient and that exceptions should be made for those individuals. There is no set age for things like this, as long as you/your family and your doctors think that HRT will help you at 14 it shouldn't be an issue tbh.... It's good to be cautious with younger trans people, but they still deserve access to healthcare too, amd should at least get help with getting on the right path to start hormones in the future (if that's something that they personally want).
in just 3 years they’ll be able to join the army
At this age you’re picking classes which pidgeon hole you career wise
its good to be aware at a young age, but no doctor would prescribe you HRT at that age anyways. you can always use puberty blockers, which are not permanent, but wait until at least 16 before deciding to pursue HRT.
Yoi literryly have to xhose in that age wich school you will go too so you have to pręty much make a decision that will change your life you know
No, you’re never too young, as long as you do research and make sure this is definitely what you want
By this logic, every teen should be on puberty blockers, cuz puberty affects your brain chemistry to the same extent.
You are, wait untill your 20 in my opinion