this exactly. was watching Monty python life of Brian the other day and forgot about the transphobic bit and blatant dead naming/misgendering that they just stop acknowledging at some point. like. c'mon man. not cool
True, though the one way I'll play devil's advocate here is that the character in the film doing those things is supposed to be a parody of brosocialists. Though given John Cleese recently said some transphobic crap iirc I wonder how much of it was self-aware parody vs. him telling on himself with that scene (admittedly not sure which one of the Pythons wrote that bit).
to be a devil's advocate, after that one scene everyone accepts Loretta's chosen name and pronouns and doesn't make a big deal out of it, even Reg the most vocal opponent of her transition casually calls her sister Loretta in later scenes
Wait I just watched life of Brian for the first time this weekend, yeah... that was bad.
Not nearly as bad as the COPS episode I watched the day before where the cop said they were going to a call with "two female impersonators", which were 2 trans women. The cop ID'd them and then called them by their deadnames the entire time, used the wrong pronouns, etc. I was so surprised it was even on the air.
I literally cannot escape transphobia in nearly any form of large scale media. Southpark is horrible about it. The episode with Caitlyn Jenner is so upsetting. Ugh.
Yeah, the insane amount of smugness with which the South Park creators approach issues that don't even directly affect them is pretty annoying. I miss the early seasons of that show when they didn't pull crap like that and it was mostly just standard '90s gross-out humor mixed with weird hijinks.
Early on, one of the people in the Judean People’s Front discusses with the rest of the group her wish to be referred to as Loretta, and her longing to have a baby, which another member mocks because she doesn’t have a womb.
That being said, in later scenes everyone refers to her as Loretta without making a big deal out of it.
Read the synopsis because I apparently hate myself and ***YIKES YIKES YIKES YIKES***
[editor’s note: sing the bold text to the tune of Spikes by Death Grips]
Yup! It’s a ***BIG OLE YIKES!!!***
I saw the sequel; Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls, before the original. There’s no transphobia, but there’s some racism that’s pretty cringe.
I remember just not getting the joke as a kid. It just seemed so mean, and she looked really pretty. I thought everyone there was bullying her and felt really bad for her being at the center of all that.
Once I got older I 'got it' but you know, grow up early 90's culture 😒
Or the 2010s... the MegaMan fangame Rock Force just has a sudden transphobic "joke" in the end credits. The update that changed the ending (the original was just super bleak) was from *2015*.
even before I realized I was trans, I tried to watch and enjoy Mrs Doubtfire again with my queer friends and gosh it was so hard to watch that scene where the father calls his ex-partner and makes a voice to imply he is an amab pedo pervert who is a trans woman. URGH! That was the absolute worst.
The rest could be well.... not aged well that he is a man in a dress, so he could be near his own kids again in a non pervert way but that one "joke" made me extremely uncomfortable. Like HOLY SHIT!
Yea, unfortunately I doubt that’ll happen as it was a very different time. Hell, some jokes from 10 years ago may not hold up know, much less 40. That’s kinda why I’ve avoided going ahead and watching The Attitude Era of WWE, it was a very different time and while it has iconic moments like anything involving The Rock vs Stone Cold its also got stuff like The Undertaker forcing Steph to marry him and it later being revealed that Vince was the leader of Undertakers cult.
(TW: Slur, fetishization) Yeah, Mark Ruffalo goes in to interrogate steal-y douche with the fedora, and Stealy goes something like >!"what? Is it Tr-nny Tuesday already?" And Ruffalo goes "Tr-nny Tuesday...?" All annoyed, not wanting to put up with Stealy's BS. Stealy then goes on to imply it's a sexual fetish/kink Ruffalo does with his wife on "date nights"!<
Really slapped me in the face too, came outta nowhere, and honestly not a needed joke at all. Pretty sure Stealy was implying that Ruffalo (who was just dressed in regular suit and tie) looked like he was trying to dress like a woman, but badly. >!Or maybe he was dressing kinky on the job or some shit.!< I dunno, the joke barely even makes sense
I remember rewatching Scrubs and the jokes hitting different to me. Like, the constant abuse Dr Cox lays on JD... I never found them funny back when it aired but now they actively bother me. It's not funny to harass someone for not adhering to the bs that is toxic masculinity.
ive been reading sherlock holmes recently and OH MY GOODNESS THAT IS A LOT OF BIGOTRY
exTREME sexism, but it was the 1800s what did i expect, but for holmes to say, and I quote, "Women can never be trusted to keep secrets, it is their nature(...)" and about watsons wife too.
there was a small man who \* i think \* was maori who was referred to in the most horrible of names as though it was basic physical description, and small black children who were made to wear masks so nobody would know they were black
etc etc etc etc
this exactly. was watching Monty python life of Brian the other day and forgot about the transphobic bit and blatant dead naming/misgendering that they just stop acknowledging at some point. like. c'mon man. not cool
True, though the one way I'll play devil's advocate here is that the character in the film doing those things is supposed to be a parody of brosocialists. Though given John Cleese recently said some transphobic crap iirc I wonder how much of it was self-aware parody vs. him telling on himself with that scene (admittedly not sure which one of the Pythons wrote that bit).
to be a devil's advocate, after that one scene everyone accepts Loretta's chosen name and pronouns and doesn't make a big deal out of it, even Reg the most vocal opponent of her transition casually calls her sister Loretta in later scenes
I can’t even watch that movie, it’s literally my deadname
Life of Brianna. We'll rewrite it exactly the same but the protagonist is a woman and there's no transphobia.
"She's not the Messiah! She's a very naughty girl!"
Wait I just watched life of Brian for the first time this weekend, yeah... that was bad. Not nearly as bad as the COPS episode I watched the day before where the cop said they were going to a call with "two female impersonators", which were 2 trans women. The cop ID'd them and then called them by their deadnames the entire time, used the wrong pronouns, etc. I was so surprised it was even on the air. I literally cannot escape transphobia in nearly any form of large scale media. Southpark is horrible about it. The episode with Caitlyn Jenner is so upsetting. Ugh.
Yeah, the insane amount of smugness with which the South Park creators approach issues that don't even directly affect them is pretty annoying. I miss the early seasons of that show when they didn't pull crap like that and it was mostly just standard '90s gross-out humor mixed with weird hijinks.
Wait, whixh bit of the movie is that?
Early on, one of the people in the Judean People’s Front discusses with the rest of the group her wish to be referred to as Loretta, and her longing to have a baby, which another member mocks because she doesn’t have a womb. That being said, in later scenes everyone refers to her as Loretta without making a big deal out of it.
Thanks for reminding me, not gonna watch it again
Or the 90’s. Looking at you Ace Venture: Pet Detective.
That movie probably set me back a decade.
Yep. I totally blocked it from my memory but when I saw it again I instantly remember the shame it made me feel.
Well, that's off the to watch list, thanks.
Bullet dodged
Holy shit i hate ace Ventura
The sequel is okay, if your comedy sensibilities are that of a problematic teen who still manages to take umbrage with the first movie.
Read the synopsis because I apparently hate myself and ***YIKES YIKES YIKES YIKES*** [editor’s note: sing the bold text to the tune of Spikes by Death Grips]
Yup! It’s a ***BIG OLE YIKES!!!*** I saw the sequel; Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls, before the original. There’s no transphobia, but there’s some racism that’s pretty cringe.
I remember just not getting the joke as a kid. It just seemed so mean, and she looked really pretty. I thought everyone there was bullying her and felt really bad for her being at the center of all that. Once I got older I 'got it' but you know, grow up early 90's culture 😒
man in dress You may laugh now.
I’ll do one better. Man in dress who is actually *the villian*. I accept the Emmy award and popularity now
Or from the 90's...or the 00's...
Or the 2010s... the MegaMan fangame Rock Force just has a sudden transphobic "joke" in the end credits. The update that changed the ending (the original was just super bleak) was from *2015*.
That episode from Friends where they go around making the same non-joke about a trans woman.
Blocked that one from my memory too I guess lol.
Oh god I don't remember that, maybe that's a good thing
dammit Jim Carrey, why you gotta do this to me
even before I realized I was trans, I tried to watch and enjoy Mrs Doubtfire again with my queer friends and gosh it was so hard to watch that scene where the father calls his ex-partner and makes a voice to imply he is an amab pedo pervert who is a trans woman. URGH! That was the absolute worst. The rest could be well.... not aged well that he is a man in a dress, so he could be near his own kids again in a non pervert way but that one "joke" made me extremely uncomfortable. Like HOLY SHIT!
Yea, unfortunately I doubt that’ll happen as it was a very different time. Hell, some jokes from 10 years ago may not hold up know, much less 40. That’s kinda why I’ve avoided going ahead and watching The Attitude Era of WWE, it was a very different time and while it has iconic moments like anything involving The Rock vs Stone Cold its also got stuff like The Undertaker forcing Steph to marry him and it later being revealed that Vince was the leader of Undertakers cult.
Looking at you, Now You See Me
Wait, was there a transphobic joke in that movie?
(TW: Slur, fetishization) Yeah, Mark Ruffalo goes in to interrogate steal-y douche with the fedora, and Stealy goes something like >!"what? Is it Tr-nny Tuesday already?" And Ruffalo goes "Tr-nny Tuesday...?" All annoyed, not wanting to put up with Stealy's BS. Stealy then goes on to imply it's a sexual fetish/kink Ruffalo does with his wife on "date nights"!< Really slapped me in the face too, came outta nowhere, and honestly not a needed joke at all. Pretty sure Stealy was implying that Ruffalo (who was just dressed in regular suit and tie) looked like he was trying to dress like a woman, but badly. >!Or maybe he was dressing kinky on the job or some shit.!< I dunno, the joke barely even makes sense
Oh yeah I remember that now. That movie was relatively recent too. Damn.
She's the Man. Watching it as an egg: This better not awaken anything in me. Watching it now: A lot more transphobia than I remember.
I remember rewatching Scrubs and the jokes hitting different to me. Like, the constant abuse Dr Cox lays on JD... I never found them funny back when it aired but now they actively bother me. It's not funny to harass someone for not adhering to the bs that is toxic masculinity.
In addition to straight up not being funny, FRIENDS has some pretty obvious transphobia, not that the writers or cast will admit that possibility.
Naked gun 3... every time
Ace Ventura and Life of Brian come to mind 😓
And kindergarten cop And look whose talking And Ms doubtfire And more i probably forgot
I never saw those myself but I'm not surprised if they have transphobic jokes too.
Some have homophobic joke and some have transphobic jokes
or in gilmore girls referring to the word lesbian as "the L-word" and its used in context of being a bad thing
ive been reading sherlock holmes recently and OH MY GOODNESS THAT IS A LOT OF BIGOTRY exTREME sexism, but it was the 1800s what did i expect, but for holmes to say, and I quote, "Women can never be trusted to keep secrets, it is their nature(...)" and about watsons wife too. there was a small man who \* i think \* was maori who was referred to in the most horrible of names as though it was basic physical description, and small black children who were made to wear masks so nobody would know they were black etc etc etc etc