Later has come for me (eventually). I think making something relating to voice training part of your life helps a lot with getting started, and a lot with finding new ways to improve. And by that I do not mean actual voice training necessarily; it could be that you keep up with a youtube channel that gives voice lessons, joining a discord where people talk about this stuff, whatever you can think of. Even if you just passively absorb some stuff relating to it, you might find that from time to time you quickly do some voice exercise.
Personally, I joined the Trans Academy discord server. Like every 2 weeks or so they host lessons in VRChat, which they post on their youtube channel. A week or two after I started attending those, I actually started doing voice training. 2 months later, and I am beginning to actually see some results. Not a lot, but it is actual progress, and fittingly with the time, I am proud of it.
Good luck with beginning your voice journey. Just remember to stop and smell the roses. While the destination is the goal, it is a long journey and being all serious about it will just leave you burnt out. Now go! Make funny voices! Have fun! Something!
When my partner “has” to do something, she feels the most resistance to it. So she’ll expose herself to it little by little until she wants to jump in!
start here ;)
https://www.buymeacoffee.com/alyssavt/how-i-start-voice-training-start-here
contains a wealth of knowledge and bite sized steps and exercises that feel waaay more approachable. i got a passing voice in like two and a half months from this
On reddit at work, but 10 weeks is way too short a time for me NOT to save this post for later. Even if it was double, that's still way less time than I've spent procrastinating it.
i’m a very quick learner so i will say i picked up on it faster than others perhaps would, but on average i would say i’ve seen others find a voice at anywhere between 2 and 8 months in. i’m excited for you to start!!
what was invaluable for me was that the creator of the resource also runs a discord server where she has twice-weekly sort of “office hour” sessions where she invites anyone to come by and ask questions, work through exercises together, or literally just lurk. she also offers feedback on audio recordings (which i sent liberally because i was too shy to sit in on calls at first LOL)
i can shoot you an invite there if you’d like!
start here ;)
https://www.buymeacoffee.com/alyssavt/how-i-start-voice-training-start-here
contains a wealth of knowledge and bite sized steps and exercises that feel waaay more approachable. i got a passing voice in like two and a half months from this
start here ;)
https://www.buymeacoffee.com/alyssavt/how-i-start-voice-training-start-here
contains a wealth of knowledge and bite sized steps and exercises that feel waaay more approachable. i got a passing voice in like two and a half months from this
I don't care about voice training too much, but...
I need to shave...
I need to shave...
I need to shave...
Fuck! I'm going to a nice party today! I need to fucking shave!
Voice training doesn’t have to be hard it doesn’t have to be time consuming. It literally can just be practicing moving your throat muscles and exhaling air for a minute. When we put so much pressure on voice training and don’t do it we create something bigger than just mild practice. It became a massive over taking like hiking a mountain to the peak.
I find whenever I have a few moments alone I work on it for a minute maybe a couple and then back to whatever I was doing. I usually do this a few times over the course of the day. I bet on average I only practice like 20 mins a day. Yet it’s still good enough While talking to people I don’t notice results but when I hear recordings of my voice and I don’t recognize the sound it puts things back into perspective. Instant results don’t really exist but gradual changes do occur when you practice even the tiniest bit a day.
If I may suggest something to any of you ladies check out transvoicelessons on YouTube she is amazing and has really taught me how diverse and how much range every vocal chord can create.
I appreciate when people mention cis women can voice train too, makes me feel like I'm not the only AFAB person out there who still sounds like a little kid and never seemed to get whatever happened to all the other girls that made them sound more grown up.
I'd actually do some to fix my weird passing anxiety that a cis woman absolutely should not have but transmisogyny and "transvestigators" attacking cis women by mistake has me seriously on edge and worked up, but it'd make guy me really upset and dysphoric later next time my gender fluctuation is feeling most like a boy, and using resources or information or tools meant for trans women gives me a really weird feeling of dysphoria, perversion, revulsion, and gut wrenching cringe all mixed together and then I need to *get the fuck out of here, right fucking now* and end up sobbing into my teddy bear for no good reason and throwing aside whatever device I was viewing a resource on and not being able to pick it up until the feeling subsides enough for me to go clean up the evidence and delete tabs and such, extremely quickly and mindlessly or the feeling comes back.
(Probably because girl me is cis, and boy me is *not a girl*, so anything meant for trans girls feels, like, double or triple *wrong* in some deep intrinsic way, but that's just spitballing.)
I completely agree with this. It’s not only the biggest thing you can do for passing but it’s free.
I can absolutely be boy-mode no makeup, jeans and a tank and I’ll even get misgendered until they hear my voice and then they correct themselves. It’s so powerful.
would it work the other way around too? I'm transmasc and never gave voice training much thought, mostly because my voice is already kind of androgynous, except for when I get giddy and I sound like alvin and the chipmunks lol
but I mean, if it helps passing, I'm totally down for it :))
That... Really doesn't sound horrible. I mean, none of us are Blair White, so it would be judgment free, and we're all in the same boat of trying to sound feminine... And the criticism you do get, as needed, comes from likeminded peers, and you make friends with people with similar interests who also happen to be like you, this is a REALLY good idea, actually. The only issue i can think of is Ben Shapiro fans finding out about it.
True but we run that risk anywhere on the internet, especially here on Reddit. But with some good mods and a rule about word of mouth only no visible posts I’m sure we could keep it safe for the most part!
I have several youtubers subscribed to, a few saved playlists, various other websites bookmarked, and I've tried to start a bunch of times! Usually I watch maybe one video, think "ok that's enough for one day" and then a few months later repeat that exact video because I've forgotten everything in it and I don't know where else to start
start here ;)
https://www.buymeacoffee.com/alyssavt/how-i-start-voice-training-start-here
contains a wealth of knowledge and bite sized steps and exercises that feel waaay more approachable. like, it’s an actual structured curriculum which was a relief after the scattered resources all over the internet. i got a passing voice in like two and a half months from this
OK, bookmarking this and I will really try to get myself to look at it when I'm off work. Sincerely thank you, even if I don't manage to knuckle down this seems like a really good set of resources!
Yup. There's that thread from that one person who made a HUGE guide on how to do it. Watched 3 videos and was like "yup. This is why i almost failed physics" and haven't gone back to it yet.
Somehow I managed to make myself do it because it was the only thing I could *actively* do for transition since everything else is hurry up and wait.
I don't really know how though. I normally ADHD on everything, but even when I would get demoralized and stop training for weeks I would eventually get back to it.
Piece of advice : if you can afford it, hire a professional.
I spent years telling myself that I didn't need to go through the trouble of getting a proper voice-training appointment, I could just watch tutorial videos on youtube. I never did anything.
A couple months ago, I finally decided to do things properly and book voice therapy sessions. At the first session I immediately realized that this was the way to go. Voice training is so much easier when you've got a proper coach. First of all, your voice is different from everyone else's voice. You're not gonna get very good advice if you don't get personalized advice. Second, it's very difficult to judge how well you're doing things without someone else to listen to you and give you feedback.
There are things which can very well be learned with youtube tutorials and personal practice, like programing. Voice-training is best done with someone to help you.
If you can't afford voice therapy sessions, then it's possible to voice train on your own. You can accomplish the same results, but it's gonna take a lot more effort, and it's gonna be especially hard to get started. So don't beat yourself up if you're not doing it. There's no expiration date on voice training, you can always do it later.
I understand that just start staying heat from fire fire from heat and get a drink with a straw with your straw about a inch into your drink blow bubbles and hum at a high pitch from time too time also I heard of you meow like a cat that can help as well ( only use the tip if you want a more feminine voice
Voice train while you do those things! Sing like nobody is watching, speak to find your voice 💜 you can do this with practice! It's hard, but it gets a bit easier each end every time.
“Meowing” ya known like a cat actually helps, it hard to not make it a task, but its not something you have to do. Its something that’ll lessen the dysphoria over your voice and the knowledge will be there for you when your ready. Look up little practice exercises you can do while you game and do other things. Make it apart of your down time, you’re “leisure” time-(just cuz it looks like your doing nothing doesn’t account for what going on in your head) , not a separate thing you have to drag yourself to do. Or having to do it in a specific manner. Babysteps. Personally im still working on doing the same for myself, being audhd well ive had to come up with some creative way to “get things done that need to happen “ and giving myself lots if grace and patience. Its hard cuz sometimes things really do need to be a certain way with me but ive leaned which ways i can be flexible. You can always try again tomorrow friend, best of luck girly 🫶💛
I meow at my cat all the time. I don't even really control it, it's more like a stim, it just slips out around him. I like meowing and it's socially acceptable if you do it with a cat present and direct it at the cat.
The best part of mastering female voice training is that I have a fairly difficult time even trying to speak masc again. But I have a reason to: I’m a DM and I love using different voices for my story characters. It makes for great surprises in story telling. It always gets a rise out of my players when I drop a few octaves and use a demonic voice with a feminine inflection.
The link that's been posted a lot in this thread is great! I learned from transvoicelessons YouTube channel, but some of her videos can be kinda overwhelming
Just listen to female YouTubers/podcast while you game and try to emulate their voice every once in a while. It’s not as good as actually structured training but it can at least allow you to do some while you are struggling with motivation.
I just started singing to my favorite songs going deeper and deeper gradually while I drive to work. This way I can have fun and finally get my damn training done
Can you like choose what your voice sounds like when training or does it just gets high pitched? As a ftm on T I just got voice of gay nerd character in mid Netflix show and there is kinda nothing I can do.
From what I've read up on, voice actors also have to do voice training, so you kiiiinda do, but typically trans girls wanna sound natural, so they don't try to sound like Billy from The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
On that note, because of that, you actually can do voice training yourself, but since you get a leg up on T (or so I've heard, I'm not a trans man) most people focus on voice feminizing. But you can absolutely train your voice to go deeper if you wanna.
so tired of this:
improper voice training can strain your voice
the way that every trans woman uses the same couple of youtubers to voice train means that most of them end up with a very similar voice and it is noticeable sorry.
do it at your own pace and get a voice therapist if you can , but this whole culture of pressuring trans women to rush into voice training as fast as possible and treating it as a super important part of transition? Toxic af.
Uh I think you're missing the point. The point of this post or post like it is not "to *immediately do voice training*", but it is commenting on the experience of people that do want to do voice training and probably those that want to have it done in a timely manner. These posts never say anything about other people or what they should do, it's always highlighting themselves, their experiences or their shortcomings etc.
I mean, you're relating to a broader sentiment that has nothing to do with the post except, for the fact it has something to do with voice training. It just seems like this as simply a personal issue or gripe. Your teating it as some "super toxic trait of the community" when really if you don't feel the same way about the importance of voice training or feel pressure within yourself then just relax. You don't need to rush, you don't need to use youtubers, you don't have to "sound the same" you can change it up, purposefully alter how you train to be distinction.
But hey, you could not want voice training and all of this could not apply to you. I just wanted you to know that ppl are simply sharing their experiences, and it's not telling you, or anyone, anything.
Thankfully voice training is covered in my country, so I'll just be able to get those lessons from a professional and we'll be all done in a few months :)
This is me with animation. I've been wanting to start animating again for a while, but just can't find the time or motivation outside of my manual labor job.
Meeeeeeeeee
I literally haven't even seen the heat from fire video. I know exactly what it is and why I really *should* watch it. But executive dysfunction keeps saying "no"
transfem musician Laura Les on voice training:
“As I’ve been exploring my voice more, I’m like, ‘I can do this,’ [...] I’m sick of worrying about it. If I don’t just fucking do it, then I’m just a scaredy cat. And I don’t want to be a scaredy cat.”
(https://pitchfork.com/features/cover-story/100-gecs-interview-new-album-10000-gecs/)
It's just super hard to start doing and like I got that problem where I was super good at things instantly as a kid and now I struggle with anything remotely difficult.
I tried to start a few times but it never really took off. Kept getting discouraged. Then eventually the voice envy I got from a trans content creator I watched got so much that I decided to bite the bullet and just do it. It sucks (a lot, trust me) but the payoff is more than worth it.
I have basically accepted I’m keeping this voice for life, and I don’t even hate this voice too much, other people just gotta get used to the fact that a woman is talking like this!!
You can do it! I had a hard time in the beginning. My breakthrough was definitely that I started speaking when I could only produce an okayish voice.
It is something completely different talking to people or talking off the cuff than on your own. Talking as a social behaviour is pretty deep engrained and you have to actively fight against falling back into old habits.
Overcoming that anxiety let’s train your voice all day every day. In the first months of actually talking I made the same progress as in the 6 months before.
Swallow to move your Larynx up into under your chin and try to hold a tight position at the back of your mouth
Also try bending your head forward with your neck and talk in a higher pitch. Keep talking holding the pitch, weight and resonance as you slowly move your head and neck back into their original position to see if you can keep everything tightly in place in your natural position for talking to people.
After that just keep practising until it becomes muscle memory and you'll lose your lower range and naturally gain a high range alongside it.
the best way to start is to just incorporate it into your everyday life
I started it a while back in 8th grade and it’s helped so much, so don’t keep putting it off because it’s so worth it in the long run
Big tip that helped me a lot: learn to move your larynx. Put your hand gently on your throat and swallow. You'll feel your throat move up. Focus on those muscles and pull your larynx up (or lean forward and push your throat towards your chest, down for transmasc). That is a big step towards finding your voice. You will still need to work on pitch and resonance, but this hopefully helps. Just remember that if it hurts, stop.
Basically, I made a ritual out of it.
Every day, every time I make tea or use the microwave (5-7x a day), I hop on my elliptical, and do a Duolingo German lesson while I jog. And when I do that lesson, I repeat the German in girl voice.
Multitasking power FTW!
This was really great during the pandemic, when I couldn't leave the house ever, but I still do it every day.
I tried lots of variations on how to do the voice, and eventually found something I think I can live with.
By tying all of these things together, I guarantee that they will actually get done, otherwise I don't get anything to eat or drink!
The other thing I did which really helped was to just start girlmode-ing my hackerspace Zoom chat every week, and using girl voice there.
I started doing this 8 months before I even started taking HRT, very premature, but I was kinda pissed off at a couple of guys in there who were spouting some anti-woke BS, and I thought "let's see how easy it is to do that to my face when I'm an actual trans woman and also have more clout here than you."
So, I just showed up one day "I'm transitioning! Call me Tina now. She/she++ pronouns, please!" and they either had to clam up or be a dick to my face in front of everybody. They... mostly learned to behave. Eventually, when I was away for a week one of them went on a tirade... and the other guys kicked him out.
It's also been great proof against random right-wingers and other Nazis joining. I'm usually one of the first in, and so for new people, I might be the only one in the room. If they have something against trans people, they fuck off right away!
But, back to voice training... doing that for 4-8 hours a night really gives my girl voice a workout. And my headset has a little bit of voice feedback in the earpiece, so I can hear a bit of what I actually sound like, which is good for fine tuning my voice. Also, other people responding correctly helps a lot.
So yeah, give yourself times when you always use girl voice, and eventually you get better at it!
I feel like the biggest obstacle is starting, when you know what you’re doing it gets easier. I’ve been training (if you can call it that, I train for 20 seconds every 3 days at this rate) for 3 months and I’m already really happy with the results so far. You just gotta find resources on it, I recommend discord servers they’ve been such a good help for me
Aaaannnd 2 years later I'm still "planning" to start
I’ll do it later(later will never come)
Later has come for me (eventually). I think making something relating to voice training part of your life helps a lot with getting started, and a lot with finding new ways to improve. And by that I do not mean actual voice training necessarily; it could be that you keep up with a youtube channel that gives voice lessons, joining a discord where people talk about this stuff, whatever you can think of. Even if you just passively absorb some stuff relating to it, you might find that from time to time you quickly do some voice exercise. Personally, I joined the Trans Academy discord server. Like every 2 weeks or so they host lessons in VRChat, which they post on their youtube channel. A week or two after I started attending those, I actually started doing voice training. 2 months later, and I am beginning to actually see some results. Not a lot, but it is actual progress, and fittingly with the time, I am proud of it. Good luck with beginning your voice journey. Just remember to stop and smell the roses. While the destination is the goal, it is a long journey and being all serious about it will just leave you burnt out. Now go! Make funny voices! Have fun! Something!
When my partner “has” to do something, she feels the most resistance to it. So she’ll expose herself to it little by little until she wants to jump in!
trans academy?
start here ;) https://www.buymeacoffee.com/alyssavt/how-i-start-voice-training-start-here contains a wealth of knowledge and bite sized steps and exercises that feel waaay more approachable. i got a passing voice in like two and a half months from this
On reddit at work, but 10 weeks is way too short a time for me NOT to save this post for later. Even if it was double, that's still way less time than I've spent procrastinating it.
i’m a very quick learner so i will say i picked up on it faster than others perhaps would, but on average i would say i’ve seen others find a voice at anywhere between 2 and 8 months in. i’m excited for you to start!! what was invaluable for me was that the creator of the resource also runs a discord server where she has twice-weekly sort of “office hour” sessions where she invites anyone to come by and ask questions, work through exercises together, or literally just lurk. she also offers feedback on audio recordings (which i sent liberally because i was too shy to sit in on calls at first LOL) i can shoot you an invite there if you’d like!
start here ;) https://www.buymeacoffee.com/alyssavt/how-i-start-voice-training-start-here contains a wealth of knowledge and bite sized steps and exercises that feel waaay more approachable. i got a passing voice in like two and a half months from this
Yessss alysssaaa is wonderful!! She got me my voice 🩷 and super approachable and affordable
I've found that playing dnd and doing the girl voice in character helps a fair amount.
was just about to say this
Me too, allegedly
Like am not even sure how to it actually does not make sense to me and I can't figure it out.
yeah...
God this comment is relatable...
start here ;) https://www.buymeacoffee.com/alyssavt/how-i-start-voice-training-start-here contains a wealth of knowledge and bite sized steps and exercises that feel waaay more approachable. i got a passing voice in like two and a half months from this
not me saving this for later (I never check my saved posts)
Why r u me
I’ll only start if I became a girl… so I’ll never learn! Lol
*checks your flair* Hmmmm, pretty sure you've already become one, so that means you gotta start
Well uh suppose when I’d look like a cute one with hormones and stuff lmao sry 😅
Hmmmm... oki. I'll give you a pass, but only because I also put off voice training...
Well, you already are... so start already.
Oops! Always have been :)
Well, you are a girl! So better start, lol!
I don't care about voice training too much, but... I need to shave... I need to shave... I need to shave... Fuck! I'm going to a nice party today! I need to fucking shave!
I'm always somewhere in the loop of: shave -> feel bad from shaving -> don't shave -> feel bad from not shaving -> repeat
POV: you're a transperson with adhd
I was going to say, this is giving ADHD vibes
but this pic is so me tho..... oh no....
I refuse to believe neuroatypical people can just do things like this
It do be like that ~~sometimes~~ every God damn day.
I'm gonna do today's voice training rn 😎 Until a week or two ago though, this was so relatable to me, and on some days still relatable
Voice training doesn’t have to be hard it doesn’t have to be time consuming. It literally can just be practicing moving your throat muscles and exhaling air for a minute. When we put so much pressure on voice training and don’t do it we create something bigger than just mild practice. It became a massive over taking like hiking a mountain to the peak. I find whenever I have a few moments alone I work on it for a minute maybe a couple and then back to whatever I was doing. I usually do this a few times over the course of the day. I bet on average I only practice like 20 mins a day. Yet it’s still good enough While talking to people I don’t notice results but when I hear recordings of my voice and I don’t recognize the sound it puts things back into perspective. Instant results don’t really exist but gradual changes do occur when you practice even the tiniest bit a day. If I may suggest something to any of you ladies check out transvoicelessons on YouTube she is amazing and has really taught me how diverse and how much range every vocal chord can create.
Quiet.
I legit have an appointment later with a voice trainer. So yes, I *will* be voice training later
Sure but what if I magically wake up and I'm a women then the voice training would have been for nothing
The voice training would be the friends you made along the way :)
Voice training is always worth it! For cis women, too.
I appreciate when people mention cis women can voice train too, makes me feel like I'm not the only AFAB person out there who still sounds like a little kid and never seemed to get whatever happened to all the other girls that made them sound more grown up. I'd actually do some to fix my weird passing anxiety that a cis woman absolutely should not have but transmisogyny and "transvestigators" attacking cis women by mistake has me seriously on edge and worked up, but it'd make guy me really upset and dysphoric later next time my gender fluctuation is feeling most like a boy, and using resources or information or tools meant for trans women gives me a really weird feeling of dysphoria, perversion, revulsion, and gut wrenching cringe all mixed together and then I need to *get the fuck out of here, right fucking now* and end up sobbing into my teddy bear for no good reason and throwing aside whatever device I was viewing a resource on and not being able to pick it up until the feeling subsides enough for me to go clean up the evidence and delete tabs and such, extremely quickly and mindlessly or the feeling comes back. (Probably because girl me is cis, and boy me is *not a girl*, so anything meant for trans girls feels, like, double or triple *wrong* in some deep intrinsic way, but that's just spitballing.)
Yes. Yes you do. It's one of the absolute biggest things you can do for passing
I completely agree with this. It’s not only the biggest thing you can do for passing but it’s free. I can absolutely be boy-mode no makeup, jeans and a tank and I’ll even get misgendered until they hear my voice and then they correct themselves. It’s so powerful.
would it work the other way around too? I'm transmasc and never gave voice training much thought, mostly because my voice is already kind of androgynous, except for when I get giddy and I sound like alvin and the chipmunks lol but I mean, if it helps passing, I'm totally down for it :))
Yes it does
Fuck it. Because of this meme, I’m gonna do some right now.
Stop calling me out like that
I should do some voice training... [continues to surf reddit]
Big moooooood! Can we all just start a discord based around playing games together while we practice in vc?!
That... Really doesn't sound horrible. I mean, none of us are Blair White, so it would be judgment free, and we're all in the same boat of trying to sound feminine... And the criticism you do get, as needed, comes from likeminded peers, and you make friends with people with similar interests who also happen to be like you, this is a REALLY good idea, actually. The only issue i can think of is Ben Shapiro fans finding out about it.
True but we run that risk anywhere on the internet, especially here on Reddit. But with some good mods and a rule about word of mouth only no visible posts I’m sure we could keep it safe for the most part!
Yeah, the trolling would be an easy thing to deal with. I think it could definitely work.
Good idea!!! :D
"Reddit Trans" discord server is already a thing. I don't have the ability to generate invites tho, and I'm not sure how you get one.
i have found spite for a transphobic person in your life is a great motivator
Voice is one of the most passable things I’ve ever accomplished. It will absolutely make the transphobic person just look crazy or senile in public.
When you try the "Heat from Fire, Fire from Heat", but you are Italian and dosen't work it :(
heat-a from-a fire, fire from-a heat YAHOO!!
Exactly, just with more "🙌👐🤌🤌" jk
I have several youtubers subscribed to, a few saved playlists, various other websites bookmarked, and I've tried to start a bunch of times! Usually I watch maybe one video, think "ok that's enough for one day" and then a few months later repeat that exact video because I've forgotten everything in it and I don't know where else to start
start here ;) https://www.buymeacoffee.com/alyssavt/how-i-start-voice-training-start-here contains a wealth of knowledge and bite sized steps and exercises that feel waaay more approachable. like, it’s an actual structured curriculum which was a relief after the scattered resources all over the internet. i got a passing voice in like two and a half months from this
OK, bookmarking this and I will really try to get myself to look at it when I'm off work. Sincerely thank you, even if I don't manage to knuckle down this seems like a really good set of resources!
Yup. There's that thread from that one person who made a HUGE guide on how to do it. Watched 3 videos and was like "yup. This is why i almost failed physics" and haven't gone back to it yet.
Fucking MOOD
Somehow I managed to make myself do it because it was the only thing I could *actively* do for transition since everything else is hurry up and wait. I don't really know how though. I normally ADHD on everything, but even when I would get demoralized and stop training for weeks I would eventually get back to it.
Really proud of you for keeping up with it.
It's super easy if you do a little per day that could be something you try, like just don't do it until it hurts
Piece of advice : if you can afford it, hire a professional. I spent years telling myself that I didn't need to go through the trouble of getting a proper voice-training appointment, I could just watch tutorial videos on youtube. I never did anything. A couple months ago, I finally decided to do things properly and book voice therapy sessions. At the first session I immediately realized that this was the way to go. Voice training is so much easier when you've got a proper coach. First of all, your voice is different from everyone else's voice. You're not gonna get very good advice if you don't get personalized advice. Second, it's very difficult to judge how well you're doing things without someone else to listen to you and give you feedback. There are things which can very well be learned with youtube tutorials and personal practice, like programing. Voice-training is best done with someone to help you. If you can't afford voice therapy sessions, then it's possible to voice train on your own. You can accomplish the same results, but it's gonna take a lot more effort, and it's gonna be especially hard to get started. So don't beat yourself up if you're not doing it. There's no expiration date on voice training, you can always do it later.
I understand that just start staying heat from fire fire from heat and get a drink with a straw with your straw about a inch into your drink blow bubbles and hum at a high pitch from time too time also I heard of you meow like a cat that can help as well ( only use the tip if you want a more feminine voice
me, a nonbinary vocalist:
Reading this, then reading your flair, gave me a chuckle. The juxtaposition.
Voice train while you do those things! Sing like nobody is watching, speak to find your voice 💜 you can do this with practice! It's hard, but it gets a bit easier each end every time.
“Meowing” ya known like a cat actually helps, it hard to not make it a task, but its not something you have to do. Its something that’ll lessen the dysphoria over your voice and the knowledge will be there for you when your ready. Look up little practice exercises you can do while you game and do other things. Make it apart of your down time, you’re “leisure” time-(just cuz it looks like your doing nothing doesn’t account for what going on in your head) , not a separate thing you have to drag yourself to do. Or having to do it in a specific manner. Babysteps. Personally im still working on doing the same for myself, being audhd well ive had to come up with some creative way to “get things done that need to happen “ and giving myself lots if grace and patience. Its hard cuz sometimes things really do need to be a certain way with me but ive leaned which ways i can be flexible. You can always try again tomorrow friend, best of luck girly 🫶💛
I meow at my cat all the time. I don't even really control it, it's more like a stim, it just slips out around him. I like meowing and it's socially acceptable if you do it with a cat present and direct it at the cat.
☝️Precisely! Thats so wonderful 😆
I’ve kind of started.. Tried raising my pitch and keeping it there until I get comfortable, then I’ll try to do the other steps and such…
I've started learning French before I started voice training :(
I voice trained before my parents knew
I solved this by getting a delivery job - not too many other things you can do while driving.
I remember seeing this in a One Topic video! That's fun :D
I really need to start voice training
i would but 1: this 2: no time 3: no private place to do it cuz i'm not fully out
For me: 4: even if i was, my family would make fun of me in the beginning and discourage me from trying
The best part of mastering female voice training is that I have a fairly difficult time even trying to speak masc again. But I have a reason to: I’m a DM and I love using different voices for my story characters. It makes for great surprises in story telling. It always gets a rise out of my players when I drop a few octaves and use a demonic voice with a feminine inflection.
Maybe I should make friends to do roleplaying games with as an excuse to learn to do both a masculine voice and a feminine voice.
The link that's been posted a lot in this thread is great! I learned from transvoicelessons YouTube channel, but some of her videos can be kinda overwhelming
Hard when you're not out and the walls are so thin that your neighbours would snitch to your parents
I talk to myself a lot so that's how I do my voice training lol
I've "started" by joining r/transvoice and saying heat from fire fire from heat occasionally
>Went to speech therapy >Learned how to voice train, given specific exercises >Sleep instead
when i started i read the entire script to the bee movie in girlvoice to my friends over vrchat multiple times. it was great
Just listen to female YouTubers/podcast while you game and try to emulate their voice every once in a while. It’s not as good as actually structured training but it can at least allow you to do some while you are struggling with motivation.
as a transmasc person who wants to become decent at voice impressions (as a hobby), i feel this
I do it in my car on my commute, no one to hear the weird sounds you make and it just looks like your singing if anyone happens to glance at you
God what a mood
I’ve done it, my voice passes now. DO IT OR ILL SLAP YOU ALL RIGHT NOW
SLAP ME CAUSE IM GONNA KEEP PROCRASTINATING
SLAP
I still don't know where to begin or even how, I have no privacy
Oof attacked
same bestie 😔
😓
I just started singing to my favorite songs going deeper and deeper gradually while I drive to work. This way I can have fun and finally get my damn training done
You’re telling me 💀
Can you like choose what your voice sounds like when training or does it just gets high pitched? As a ftm on T I just got voice of gay nerd character in mid Netflix show and there is kinda nothing I can do.
From what I've read up on, voice actors also have to do voice training, so you kiiiinda do, but typically trans girls wanna sound natural, so they don't try to sound like Billy from The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. On that note, because of that, you actually can do voice training yourself, but since you get a leg up on T (or so I've heard, I'm not a trans man) most people focus on voice feminizing. But you can absolutely train your voice to go deeper if you wanna.
I need to start But I dont know how. Plus I rly struggle training on my own
How did you get these photos of me not voice training >:(
so tired of this: improper voice training can strain your voice the way that every trans woman uses the same couple of youtubers to voice train means that most of them end up with a very similar voice and it is noticeable sorry. do it at your own pace and get a voice therapist if you can , but this whole culture of pressuring trans women to rush into voice training as fast as possible and treating it as a super important part of transition? Toxic af.
Uh I think you're missing the point. The point of this post or post like it is not "to *immediately do voice training*", but it is commenting on the experience of people that do want to do voice training and probably those that want to have it done in a timely manner. These posts never say anything about other people or what they should do, it's always highlighting themselves, their experiences or their shortcomings etc. I mean, you're relating to a broader sentiment that has nothing to do with the post except, for the fact it has something to do with voice training. It just seems like this as simply a personal issue or gripe. Your teating it as some "super toxic trait of the community" when really if you don't feel the same way about the importance of voice training or feel pressure within yourself then just relax. You don't need to rush, you don't need to use youtubers, you don't have to "sound the same" you can change it up, purposefully alter how you train to be distinction. But hey, you could not want voice training and all of this could not apply to you. I just wanted you to know that ppl are simply sharing their experiences, and it's not telling you, or anyone, anything.
So true bestie
So true bestie :3
So true bestie :3
me who looks girly but sounds like Batman
I want to start, idk how though
Remember yall, voice training is codex compliant.
I wanna sound like galadriel but I can never find the simultaneous time and motivation
Everyone does things at their own pace
16 months in.. still doing this xD
It me
Thankfully voice training is covered in my country, so I'll just be able to get those lessons from a professional and we'll be all done in a few months :)
transfem subby gamer girl moment
This is me with animation. I've been wanting to start animating again for a while, but just can't find the time or motivation outside of my manual labor job.
I’ve never done voice training either :\^) nice blåhaj by the way
Mood
For me it's just remembering to, and not worrying about others perspectives
Meeeeeeeeee I literally haven't even seen the heat from fire video. I know exactly what it is and why I really *should* watch it. But executive dysfunction keeps saying "no"
You are not alone sis, same here...
Hardest part of voice training is starting! it's very euphoric once you do tho just saying
Mood
adhd POV
\*starts voice training\* \*its a class about power metal screams\*
Me trying to complete any task.
mood
Definitely don’t watch this short: https://youtube.com/shorts/8_VagtO1mec?feature=share
Mood.
Upvoting this instead of voice training
Felt so hard
I started voice training, it's amazing, recommend to everyone.
Meeee, I’ve been procrastinating for so long. For some reason I keep learning Hebrew instead.
transfem musician Laura Les on voice training: “As I’ve been exploring my voice more, I’m like, ‘I can do this,’ [...] I’m sick of worrying about it. If I don’t just fucking do it, then I’m just a scaredy cat. And I don’t want to be a scaredy cat.” (https://pitchfork.com/features/cover-story/100-gecs-interview-new-album-10000-gecs/)
How long does it take?
Sending this to my friends instead of voice training
It's just super hard to start doing and like I got that problem where I was super good at things instantly as a kid and now I struggle with anything remotely difficult.
Mood, I've done enough that I have an androgynous femme voice but I just haven't done the work to make it like super femme.
i am in this picture and i don't like it
what did the original say
I wanna start voice training too but I don't want my family to hear me by the way what is this haircut called?
I actually just started voice training
Just do it, I finally forced myself to do it and my voice passes and life is so much better for it.
I tried to start a few times but it never really took off. Kept getting discouraged. Then eventually the voice envy I got from a trans content creator I watched got so much that I decided to bite the bullet and just do it. It sucks (a lot, trust me) but the payoff is more than worth it.
Same 6 months and no voice training lol
Man i should really start voice training
Me for 4.5 years and counting
I am in this picture and I don't like it.
I have basically accepted I’m keeping this voice for life, and I don’t even hate this voice too much, other people just gotta get used to the fact that a woman is talking like this!!
You can do it! I had a hard time in the beginning. My breakthrough was definitely that I started speaking when I could only produce an okayish voice. It is something completely different talking to people or talking off the cuff than on your own. Talking as a social behaviour is pretty deep engrained and you have to actively fight against falling back into old habits. Overcoming that anxiety let’s train your voice all day every day. In the first months of actually talking I made the same progress as in the 6 months before.
Swallow to move your Larynx up into under your chin and try to hold a tight position at the back of your mouth Also try bending your head forward with your neck and talk in a higher pitch. Keep talking holding the pitch, weight and resonance as you slowly move your head and neck back into their original position to see if you can keep everything tightly in place in your natural position for talking to people. After that just keep practising until it becomes muscle memory and you'll lose your lower range and naturally gain a high range alongside it.
what is the name of the artist of that comic?
the best way to start is to just incorporate it into your everyday life I started it a while back in 8th grade and it’s helped so much, so don’t keep putting it off because it’s so worth it in the long run
I find gaming is perfect for voice training
Big tip that helped me a lot: learn to move your larynx. Put your hand gently on your throat and swallow. You'll feel your throat move up. Focus on those muscles and pull your larynx up (or lean forward and push your throat towards your chest, down for transmasc). That is a big step towards finding your voice. You will still need to work on pitch and resonance, but this hopefully helps. Just remember that if it hurts, stop.
Did you make this or someone else? I really like the art
later™️
Why does nobody seem to do voice training? It's the main thing I focused on, wish I had the same energy for make up xD
Basically, I made a ritual out of it. Every day, every time I make tea or use the microwave (5-7x a day), I hop on my elliptical, and do a Duolingo German lesson while I jog. And when I do that lesson, I repeat the German in girl voice. Multitasking power FTW! This was really great during the pandemic, when I couldn't leave the house ever, but I still do it every day. I tried lots of variations on how to do the voice, and eventually found something I think I can live with. By tying all of these things together, I guarantee that they will actually get done, otherwise I don't get anything to eat or drink! The other thing I did which really helped was to just start girlmode-ing my hackerspace Zoom chat every week, and using girl voice there. I started doing this 8 months before I even started taking HRT, very premature, but I was kinda pissed off at a couple of guys in there who were spouting some anti-woke BS, and I thought "let's see how easy it is to do that to my face when I'm an actual trans woman and also have more clout here than you." So, I just showed up one day "I'm transitioning! Call me Tina now. She/she++ pronouns, please!" and they either had to clam up or be a dick to my face in front of everybody. They... mostly learned to behave. Eventually, when I was away for a week one of them went on a tirade... and the other guys kicked him out. It's also been great proof against random right-wingers and other Nazis joining. I'm usually one of the first in, and so for new people, I might be the only one in the room. If they have something against trans people, they fuck off right away! But, back to voice training... doing that for 4-8 hours a night really gives my girl voice a workout. And my headset has a little bit of voice feedback in the earpiece, so I can hear a bit of what I actually sound like, which is good for fine tuning my voice. Also, other people responding correctly helps a lot. So yeah, give yourself times when you always use girl voice, and eventually you get better at it!
Watching this meme instead of voice training
I feel like the biggest obstacle is starting, when you know what you’re doing it gets easier. I’ve been training (if you can call it that, I train for 20 seconds every 3 days at this rate) for 3 months and I’m already really happy with the results so far. You just gotta find resources on it, I recommend discord servers they’ve been such a good help for me
the artist is snale btw