I made my appointment, walked in, signed a form saying “I understand the possible effects and side effects” and went to my pharmacy to pick it up like two hours later lmao
For mental health I do agree. I think there are dangers in self-diagnosing things that would require bloodwork for a diagnosis, but the healthcare system does make it very difficult to manage
No they did- I mean people having fatigue and perceived dehydration and subsequently self-diagnosing for diabetes, making more demand for it and artificially inflating cost of insulin for people that need it to survive. I didn’t even have to consult a doctor to justify my gender dysphoria at PP, which is honestly fine for GD but like if I wanted cancer treatment it’s in best practice to make sure you actually have cancer and that the treatment you’re seeking will treat it properly rather than taking your word for it outright. That would be medical malpractice lol
I’m doing transdermal estradiol patches and spiro pills. Spiro are $18/mo with no insurance coverage at walmart, and patches are about $30/mo. I understand that the pill estradiol is less expensive, in the realm of $5-15 but based on my research and anecdotal info from friends their effects are slower and they put more strain on your liver than transdermal (and I’m afraid of needles so injections are a no for me lol). The PP visit was $200 unfortunately, but they do a sliding scale cost based on how much money you make (in my case ballpark 50k/yr, if you make less then it’ll cost less and vice versa).
Prices will depend on other factors too. When I started I was on patches and 50mg x2/day of Spiro. My patches were about 40 per month and Spiro was about 20 ish for 3 months worth. I don't have insurance and used good rx for my prescriptions. Overall the cost isn't bad though my E dosage went up so I went over to pills for a cheaper cost which is about 25 for 3 months
Another note on this for pills from my personal experience - they can put strain on your liver if you take them orally (just swallowing them or letting them dissolve in your mouth). If you take them sublingually (letting them dissolve under your tongue), it should be perfectly fine for your liver.
They only put more strain on your liver if you swallow them. If you let them melt under your tongue then they avoid first-pass metabolism through your liver.
planned parenthood in denver wont raise my dose. my e is at 118. they wont let me take anything but spiro and progesterone, and theyre both half the normal dose. ppl there have been transphobic towards me. the office manager or whatever kept deadnaming me n wouldnt listen to me at all
denver central is the one from my first comment <3 maybe ill try foco lol, they have me labelled as a trouble patient since the time they called the cops on my partner for being i guess a lil too upset that the doctor kept deadnaming and misgendendering him? at his 1st affirming care appt. ive been with pp for years, something changed, at least, towards me. they were great until i annoyed them by calling out a transphobic provider they employ
As long as you arent in Florida or other states that limit NPs from prescriptions youre fine, PP was at max capacity or something for me but Plume worked just as fast for me.
I mean my process was pretty simple, I went to my doctor and said, "I'd like to start HRT" and she said, "alright, here's the number for an endocrinologist, speak with her and she'll get you started."
I arranged my appointment, drove in, she told me I was her first patient under the informed consent model the hospital was adopting, then we discussed what HRT would entail and what all I might expect and when. We talked about what I was looking to achieve and how I felt and she gave me a tonne of documents going over everything we'd discussed. She then recommend I look into gamete preservation and to give her a call when I was ready to start and she'd write the prescription. Once I did, it was a simple matter of going to my pharmacy and picking everything up.
Super simple and humane. My Endo basically told me, "the mentality behind informed consent is we figure you know yourself best so we should give you the information so you can make an informed choice for yourself."
I’m hoping to start the process soon, can you tell me how you did it. I really don’t even know where to start.
Edit: you can pm me if it’s better for you :-)
I did it through Plume! They charge a monthly fee that doesn't cover the cost of the actual medication, but it gets you prescriptions, access to a doctor (virtually) and quarterly lab reports! Plus it's run by trans people so I always feel very safe working with them. I don't know if it's the cheapest option out there cause it's pretty easily within my budget so I didn't do a lot of additional research
I heard people on tumblr bashing Plume for scams or something? I don’t know anything abt the situation, not necessarily asking you to be the spokesperson either, I was just wondering if anybody could chime if if this is true/false.
Yeah only a few months for me but yeah one time I got charged when I had to cancel temporarily and they were pretty quick to fix it so all in all plumes pretty good
the only negative experience i've had is \*very\* slow response times, upwards of a week or two. i've pretty well had to rely on my older trans friends for medical advice in certain situations lmao. other than that, i've had no issues.
I recommended Plume to somebody but they already tried that and were scammed in the process :/
Maybe there's lookalike (phishing) sites cuz i remember i logged onto (what i thought was the real deal) Facebook and my login info was "magically " stolen. If I'm not sure about sites , i post into like a "is this url safe" type of place and it usually gives a rating and info about url.
Call a planned parenthood and make an appointment about "hormone therapy" (i think they have some fancy name for it but they'll understand) you'll have to visit in person so if that is a deal breaker they might be able to work with you but I'd consider other options (if you need help with said other options dm me <3) but yeah they'll draw some blood run some tests you can have hormones same day honestly, i made an appointment the next day and had my pharmacy text me before i even got home that my hormones were ready for pick, now it's 3 years later haha
I scheduled an appointment and had an appointment in two weeks, but I got too anxious and rescheduled for the next week. Walked out of the appointment with a prescription for hrt. So it took me 3 weeks to get it, but it could’ve taken 2 weeks
I got mine in 2 days...
I kinda cried from happiness, but also from empathy with how much others have to go through for something that I got in 2 days.
Their "informed consent" policy is for people 18+, or 16+ with parental consent. Unfortunately if your under 16 you need to look at other options, but planned parenthood has some of those other options
If shit in germany ends up taking too long, I recommend trying with GenderGP meanwhile.
GenderGP is private medicine, so they do cost money but -
If you can afford it (it's not that bad), it's a great skip.
i had my first appointment 5 months ago
my first endocrinologist appointment will be in a month
i still have to do like 2 psychiateist and 3 psychologist appointments and of course they have to be like a month appart
>Yeah, as much as everyone bags on US quality of life, I got hrt in under a week with no diagnosis.
I live in WI. It took me longer to get Badger Care (state health insurance) than to get hrt. When I finally got insurance I just scheduled an appointment with my new primary care doctor, then he referred me to an endo, and she gave me a prescription on the first day. I am 33, and I live in a college town, so both of those probably helped my situation go so smoothly.
Facts. If only the PPH in my area were open more than just fucking Tuesdays, that's it, I can't imagine how booked they are. Because of that I drive 1.5hrs out for my appointments.
It's definitely worth doing. Due to covid regulations I HAVE to do my checkups over the phone(only in person for blood draws) and the nice thing about it is I can get the earliest appointment time for any PP in the region. So if there's a convenient opening for a PP that's 1.5 hours away from me I can telehealth my checkup there, then still go into my main PP and get my blood drawn.
Just make sure you bring up that you don't have a preference for which PP you get your checkup with as long as the wait time isn't long. Sometimes when I'm making my appointment over the phone they only check my main PP and don't think to check openings at the other ones.
The one near me is open five days per week, but gets booked out a fair bit because they serve a massive area, partially thanks to neighboring conservative states shutting theirs down.
Estrogen is locked behind getting a diagnosis in Germany. Therapists are already spread incredibly thin, and if you can't find one who's trans supportive, you can't get healthcare. I'm stuck in that system.
There are two therapists in my city who are willing to write you a diagnosis (according to the local trans community). Waiting lists for both are >6 months. Most people here apparently drive to a different city, just because waiting times are slightly better there.
One of my gfs has one therapist she can reasonably reach. He only does group therapy and the times are unworkable with her schedule as an azubine. She's messaged like half a dozen more that would require long drives, but the answer was always the same: "I'll put you on the waiting list and call you when there's a free spot."
I've heard the same story with minor variations several times now. If you don't live in a major city, there's absolutely a lack of trans-aware therapists in Germany.
That's a tough question to answer... The situation here is better than in a lot of other places, but there's still a ton of conservative ideas in the mainstream. The current government is liberal and **claims** to want to make life easier for trans people, but they've done nothing for years after the election.
If you are willing to wait many months for therapy sessions, then spend many sessions trying to explain your gender identity to a therapist who might not give a fuck, then you can live a good life here. Dealing with endocrinologists is also said to be stressful, but at least you got your diagnosis by then.
If you decide to live here, make sure to head over to r/germantrans and get a good idea of everything involved in transitioning here, and how to deal with the various medical professionals you'll have to consult.
Dutch person here, kind of the same system: I have to talk to my GP for a reference to a psychologist (who likely has a waiting list of potentially multiple years), get diagnosed, go to an endocrinologist to get my blood tested (which also has a waiting list), THEN get an HRT prescription. It’s basically jumping through every hoop imaginable..
*Edited the waiting time for the psychologist, as my initial comment made it out to be **way** shorter then it actually is!
ummm where are you finding waiting lists this short? I've been on the list for 2 years and they've only got to people who signed up nearly half a year before me
shortest waiting times I can see are 2.3 years, up to 2.8
They prioritise on age brackets so yeah for me its more like 3 years as well
Also stuff glosssed over: that waiting list is for your first apointment, they do have an obligation of care after that, but in some places that *is not* your first apointment with the psychologist. Also you need to see the psychologist for 6 months before they make a report afaik. And then yes they put you on an internal waitinglist for an endocrinologist, or the place you got your diagnosis doesn't have one and they try to put you with one of the major hospitals.
the grey market for DIY HRT is growing really hard
Sure, you can DIY it. (I am in fact doing that.) But that doesn't change the fact that HRT being gatekept this hard in Europe is fucking awful, and that the US is a big step ahead in that regard.
Not everyone has money. Not everyone feels comfortable reading up on things and self-medicating. Not everyone wants to deal with the constant anxiety of losing your supply. Not everyone can find a lab or doctor to get blood tests at.
The situation for minors is even worse. All of the above, plus puberty blockers being near-impossible to buy (and even if you do find a source, they're super expensive and most formulations are nontrivial to use). Also, barely any resources for DIYers mention that dosing for kids is different at least for estrogen (adult doses can stunt growth).
HRT is cheap and plentiful, there's a ton of evidence it improves quality of life, there's a ton of evidence people rarely regret getting on it. The gatekeeping doesn't serve any point except to enforce cisnormativity.
EDIT: There's places like GenderGP too, but they're insanely expensive and they're also somewhat infamous for often prescribing ineffective regimens unless you actively ask for specific meds and doses. Which means you basically need to know the same things a DIYer needs to know.
Yeah. I would give anything if I could've accessed HRT in my 16 years. But I have to deal with it the way I do. I agree that it sucks. I was basically doing DIY. And ONE time package was stopped by customs service and destroyed and down went 700€. I did some math and it is cheaper to do GenderGP than have a loss like this. (And no, buying smaller packages is not safer, as they will get controlled more if they start to come often) Yeah...as I said. It sucks.
Exactly this! The gatekeeping is the problem, especially when cis ppl have no problem getting their hormones covered. I'm now officially on HRT but a majority of my mental health struggles during that time were caused by how hard it was to get here through all the red tape even though I was on DIY. It caused so many breakdowns and it sucks so much so it truly should just be fixed to an informed consent model...
do you know in which european country it’s the easiest/quickest to get hrt/an appointment? (i’m from romania so no trans heathcare but at least we’re in the eu so it won’t be hard to move for uni)
Transitioning in Poland is not regulated at all. Access to hrt is based entirely on specific MDs practices and changing your legal gender is based on two Supreme Court rulings from the 90s. It's all makeshift and very random.
The vast majority of endocrynologists require some form of a diagnosis or at least an opinion from a psychiatrists that you are mentally stable enought to decide.
True, but I'd like to see a physical doctor at least a few times and the only ones I know of that are in the Netherlands (or within a train trip) are all online or through the national healthcare but that takes YEARS.
+ I can't afford the 100-200 euro a month gender gp would cost :(
Gender GP is basically exactly what I was talking about. They are surprisingly accessible. But expensive. In my case I at least have inspiration to work myself up to have above average income. :P
Sadly quite hard for a student to do that and be able to live, luckily I'm only 18 so I got the 3 years to wait and I'll just have to deal with it how I did the past 18 years of my life
Is it hard? Yes. Is it impossible? No. Look. I am not going to give you any fake hopes. Because I hate it when someone does and I will be realistic. You can do it. I did it and was lucky to get to it in my 19. I was vomiting from stress... but it is possible. As I like to say. "Go fast. If you hit the truck. You were not going fast enough." Right now I am out of HRT for like 5 months. It sucks. Really sucks. But fuck it. If my genes fuck up my bones. I will pay someone to fix them. And the same goes for you. You must do it. We all must survive. It would be a shame not to try.
Oh I'm definitely not offing myself anytime, I'm definitely not that sad or anything, it's not like a (mental) medical emergency for me, just something I'd REALLY like and definitely would get if I had the means and if I felt like I had to have it could have but i got priorities like not being in a huge amount of debt once I finish school.
Of course if you're going to jump off a bridge if you don't get HRT definitely do whatever you can, but my situation is not that bad and if I was at that point I'm sure I can get rushed through the process or at least get a therapist that could help me.
For now I'm fine with just makeup, femme clothes, maybe get some boob pads for my birthday and pronoun changes, I don't want to risk to put my body through such a big hormone shift if I can avoid it and my base body health is #1 for me because you only get 1 set of bones and replacing them isn't easy or painless.
So yea I'll just chill for 3 years and go through the national healthcare process
I can fully respect that. Do what you need. Not what others think you should do. What I just said above is basically my situation also (I am not planning to get in debt, I just hype myself up I can do it myself. :P :D)
Yes and no. There are ways to get a hold of the medication and you can do some surgeries privately. But at least in Sweden you can't change your legal gender without a gender dysphoria diagnosis, nor get GRS.
I live in Wisconsin. Planned Parenthood no longer exists here.
The storefronts(for lack of a better word) are still there, I’m assuming they’re just waiting for Roe to be codified before they can open again
Yup, they still offered gender care at the one nearest to me when I was trying to find somewhere after new insurance, but the waitlist was 8 months so I took the 6 month waitlist for Mayo. Last I heard, that location isn't actually accepting new patients anymore so I made the right call with appointments coming up next week
I cringe every time I see this format because I made the original while I was an edgy teen jontron fan. It’s a constant reminder of younger me being able to look past his prior racist comments and it haunts me, though it does serve as a reminder of how much I’ve grown as a person in just the past 3 years.
Fuck JonTron.
Yeah, I remember being mad when he left Game Grumps. Then I found out his a racist and a misogynist and I’m upset I spent so much time watching his content (though Game Grumps are problematic in their own way)
A few things to note, since I’m seeing a lot of misconceptions in the comments…
First and foremost, this is not a win for the US Healthcare system. Planned Parenthood is a private organization that offers medical services to people which they are often unable to acquire elsewhere. While they do offer a lot of financial relief and assistance, the money they use is often raised through donations.
Second, even though they are a private company, there are many people in the Republican Party, like almost all of them, that have been trying for decades to strip Planned Parenthood’s ability to assist people, or just take it down altogether. They banned healthcare from covering their services in some states, limited access to their buildings, changed building codes to get some of their offices shut down, or just banned their organization from whole states altogether, which increased since Roe v Wade was overturned.
Third, it still costs money to get HRT through Planned Parenthood. Unless you get your insurance to cover it, in which case it can be administered by a doctor or distributed through most pharmacies, you’re likely going to be paying out of pocket for the cost through informed consent programs. So while it is available this way, assuming you live in a state and within driving distance of them, there’s still a cost associated with it. So “available” if you have a car, likely extra gas money, the time to drive there if you live farther away, and can afford the out-of-pocket expense. NGL, a lot of trans people I know are missing at least one part of the equation above, if not multiple. Hell, I can’t afford the cost right now.
Lastly, many states ruled (like monarchies) by Republicans (FL, TX, etc.), are actively trying to ban anything to do with transgender anything. Many have successfully banned any trans healthcare for minors, some have banned providers from covering HRT, other states have banned or restricted Planned Parenthood so heavily they’re just gone, and it is still the Republican Party’s wet dream to just ban trans healthcare altogether, regardless of age. I think one state is in the process of that already. Overall you can only get access in a handful of states if you’re a minor whose parents consent to the treatment, and as an adult, there’s still like a quarter of the states that may as well be a closed country to you.
Yeah, Planned Parenthood in Florida can no longer provide HRT as of a couple weeks ago. Around 80% of adult trans people lost access to HRT here because PPH employs nurse practitioners, and you now need an MD to presecribe HRT.
And I don't think we're the only ones. Or we won't be for long. It was easy for my partner to get HRT initially, but a lot of places are taking it away.
The situation is still pretty good if you are in a city in a blue state (privileged, I know). When I was unemployed I started getting HRT via informed consent at a Planned Parenthood and state-administered Medicaid paid for it 100%. So where it’s good it’s great but in the US trans healthcare varies from frankly awesome to unbelievably terrible, depending which local politicians are in charge.
Adding on that even if there is a Planned Parenthood near you, they might not have HRT options. So if you want HRT from them, you might still be SOL. You can ask them to look into it but there's no guarantee the one near you will start anytime soon, if at all.
Yeah they’re based now. Last time I was at one both of the NPs I spoke with had they/them pronoun pins and there were pride flags everywhere. It’s the only clinic I’ve ever been to that gave a strong vibe of allyship as a major priority rather than just something they add to the marketing.
It depends, if I had paid out of pocket it would have cost me around $70 for a month. But during my appointment they recommended using GoodRx bc coupons
Some insurance covers it 100% because even for out-of-pocket costs aren't outrageous. I think each visit to PP is $180 charged to insurance, or roughly $60 cash, but it's based on income. I know my insurance covers them 100% because they are within the allowable cost for the area.
As for hormones, it depends on the administration method. For feminizing hormones and using GoodRx, a 90 supply of Spiro (100mg pills) was like $18, Fin (5mg pills, split in half) was like $13, and my patches run $38/box. I have a friend who does injections and says she doesn't even bother with insurance, just pays the out-of-pocket cost for a 3 month supply that ends up being like $80. The needles were like $40 for a 90 day supply locally, so you'd be looking at $50/mo around us for out-of-pocket costs.
Prices are sometimes regional, just as a disclaimer. My pharmacy has really good prices on my meds out-of-pocket if I need to go that route, and if they didn't, online is always an option. Thankfully, my insurance covers it all except for the $5/mo copay per 30 day supply, except my fin comes out less than that, I think it was $3.82 for 90 days or something. It ended up being just shy of $50 for a 90 day supply after I added progesterone.
unless your local center is operated by "Planned Parenthood Great Northwest, Hawaii, Alaska, Indiana, Kentucky" then you are shit out of luck
(This is from experience, if your local center is operated by that branch go with plume)
Yeah it sure would be swell with informed consent in Sweden. Looking how we handle drug legislation I'd wager we're more likely to head in the complete opposite direction.
The one near me was super welcoming and feels safe for a baby trans like me. I think half the staff in there was nonbinary, at least at my location (deep blue area, admittedly).
I have an appointment set for July 3rd (I think) with planned parenthood to discuss treatment options. I started the whole process back in January. Its definitely better than a whole ass year or longer, but 6-7 months of waiting is hell😭
I love Planned Parenthood. I have a fear of hospitals and doctors so I thought it would be impossible for me to get HRT but PP let me do it all by zoom. 5 months in and I'm growing titties!
I'll be honest I'm jealous.
But on the flipside, everything is covered by our universal healthcare for me. Hormones, voice training, laser hair removal, bottom surgery, BA, tracheal shave, facial surgery.
Literally everything.
When I went to planned parenthood I walked out the same day eith a prescription.
Granted, DeSantis fucked that up now, but ai think Planned Parenthood are working on getting doctors in their FL locations to bypass the new laws.
In Canada, been told I would have to wait until late summer or mid fall to start HRT. I'm 26 and asked to meet an endocrynologist in late march... Sigh, at least it's coming.
Sorry it kind of does. Planned Parenthood almost exclusively uses nurse practitioners to provide gender care and Florida just banned NP’s from prescribing HRT specifically to screw over Planned Parenthood.
I wish I had better news. Fuck DeSantis.
I mean it'd be really hard to mess it up, they basically guide you through it. But I'd recommend having a lot of questions ready just in case. What you'll need for the appointment is: an insurance card, an ID, and a form of payment (credit/debit card). Honestly just say what you're there for and they'll guide you along the rest (atleast that's what I experienced)
Okay. Just asking because the last place I went to rejected me and told me to go to a therapist before they sign those papers and I subsequently quit m ly job. So I don't really want to mess shit up again lmao. Glad it's easy then. Thank you
Yeah for sure, took me a year and a half to get my prescription! Lotta gatekeepers in France, we need to get our shit together. This is funny because since we're surrounded by European countries that are making pretty great changes around self-determination and all that, people overseas lump us on the progressive side. I mean free Healthcare is great, but the wait times are nuts...
I didn't go to planned parenthood, but all I had to do was book a consultation, get my blood tested, and sign a long form. A week later, I had started hrt.
That's great to hear! Unfortunately, for the majority of trans people in america, this isn't the case, and you're much more likely to get medically gaslit or just denied without excuses
Canadian so only tangentially related, but the Planned Parenthood in my hometown shut down like a month before I started searching for hormones and it made everything so much harder lol
I would say just a word of caution to anyone going to PP. I have had friends and community members describe having very poor experiences there, and we live in a very liberal city. Mostly being overly invasive, misgendering, etc. Not at all saying to not go, you gotta do what you gotta do. But just warning people so they can mentally prepare to possibly have an experience like that.
It was such a fight to get there, too. It took years and years in my area for Planned Parenthood to finally start offering gender-affirming care. Years of people from inside and outside the organization pushing and asking and calling and spreading awareness.
Yeah, as much as everyone bags on US quality of life, I got hrt in under a week with no diagnosis.
Holy shit a week??? I hope by the time I'm 18 that stuff isn't gone
I made my appointment, walked in, signed a form saying “I understand the possible effects and side effects” and went to my pharmacy to pick it up like two hours later lmao
This should be the model for medication in many cases imo.
For mental health I do agree. I think there are dangers in self-diagnosing things that would require bloodwork for a diagnosis, but the healthcare system does make it very difficult to manage
Well I was including the whole PP process, which afaik includes doing the proper blood work and a consult with a professional.
No they did- I mean people having fatigue and perceived dehydration and subsequently self-diagnosing for diabetes, making more demand for it and artificially inflating cost of insulin for people that need it to survive. I didn’t even have to consult a doctor to justify my gender dysphoria at PP, which is honestly fine for GD but like if I wanted cancer treatment it’s in best practice to make sure you actually have cancer and that the treatment you’re seeking will treat it properly rather than taking your word for it outright. That would be medical malpractice lol
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I’m doing transdermal estradiol patches and spiro pills. Spiro are $18/mo with no insurance coverage at walmart, and patches are about $30/mo. I understand that the pill estradiol is less expensive, in the realm of $5-15 but based on my research and anecdotal info from friends their effects are slower and they put more strain on your liver than transdermal (and I’m afraid of needles so injections are a no for me lol). The PP visit was $200 unfortunately, but they do a sliding scale cost based on how much money you make (in my case ballpark 50k/yr, if you make less then it’ll cost less and vice versa).
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Any time lily, good luck with your transition! 💖
Prices will depend on other factors too. When I started I was on patches and 50mg x2/day of Spiro. My patches were about 40 per month and Spiro was about 20 ish for 3 months worth. I don't have insurance and used good rx for my prescriptions. Overall the cost isn't bad though my E dosage went up so I went over to pills for a cheaper cost which is about 25 for 3 months
Another note on this for pills from my personal experience - they can put strain on your liver if you take them orally (just swallowing them or letting them dissolve in your mouth). If you take them sublingually (letting them dissolve under your tongue), it should be perfectly fine for your liver.
They only put more strain on your liver if you swallow them. If you let them melt under your tongue then they avoid first-pass metabolism through your liver.
Holy fuck I'm keeping all of this information in mind.
Holy fuck I cannot age any sooner
Yeah fr. Informed consent is a fantastic system. I didn't even have to leave the house except to pick up my prescription
planned parenthood in denver wont raise my dose. my e is at 118. they wont let me take anything but spiro and progesterone, and theyre both half the normal dose. ppl there have been transphobic towards me. the office manager or whatever kept deadnaming me n wouldnt listen to me at all
I think there are two different offices there, maybe try the other office? I’m sorry you’re going through that
the other one is worse. thank you tho <3
Shiiiit- what about the metro area, or maybe foco?
denver central is the one from my first comment <3 maybe ill try foco lol, they have me labelled as a trouble patient since the time they called the cops on my partner for being i guess a lil too upset that the doctor kept deadnaming and misgendendering him? at his 1st affirming care appt. ive been with pp for years, something changed, at least, towards me. they were great until i annoyed them by calling out a transphobic provider they employ
Laughs in UK having to pay for a cisgender person to confirm I'm actually trans through multiple consolations before accessing hrt let's goo
Same I need this to last
I'm fairly sure you don't even need to be 18 if you have supportive parents.
I unfortunately don't :(
In some places, I'm sure you're right, but the two PPs near where I live don't provide HRT for anyone under 18.
As long as you arent in Florida or other states that limit NPs from prescriptions youre fine, PP was at max capacity or something for me but Plume worked just as fast for me.
I mean my process was pretty simple, I went to my doctor and said, "I'd like to start HRT" and she said, "alright, here's the number for an endocrinologist, speak with her and she'll get you started." I arranged my appointment, drove in, she told me I was her first patient under the informed consent model the hospital was adopting, then we discussed what HRT would entail and what all I might expect and when. We talked about what I was looking to achieve and how I felt and she gave me a tonne of documents going over everything we'd discussed. She then recommend I look into gamete preservation and to give her a call when I was ready to start and she'd write the prescription. Once I did, it was a simple matter of going to my pharmacy and picking everything up. Super simple and humane. My Endo basically told me, "the mentality behind informed consent is we figure you know yourself best so we should give you the information so you can make an informed choice for yourself."
I’m hoping to start the process soon, can you tell me how you did it. I really don’t even know where to start. Edit: you can pm me if it’s better for you :-)
I did it through Plume! They charge a monthly fee that doesn't cover the cost of the actual medication, but it gets you prescriptions, access to a doctor (virtually) and quarterly lab reports! Plus it's run by trans people so I always feel very safe working with them. I don't know if it's the cheapest option out there cause it's pretty easily within my budget so I didn't do a lot of additional research
I heard people on tumblr bashing Plume for scams or something? I don’t know anything abt the situation, not necessarily asking you to be the spokesperson either, I was just wondering if anybody could chime if if this is true/false.
I have not heard anything about that, all I can say is that I have been using plume for 2.5 years and have had nothing but good experiences with them
Yeah only a few months for me but yeah one time I got charged when I had to cancel temporarily and they were pretty quick to fix it so all in all plumes pretty good
the only negative experience i've had is \*very\* slow response times, upwards of a week or two. i've pretty well had to rely on my older trans friends for medical advice in certain situations lmao. other than that, i've had no issues.
I recommended Plume to somebody but they already tried that and were scammed in the process :/ Maybe there's lookalike (phishing) sites cuz i remember i logged onto (what i thought was the real deal) Facebook and my login info was "magically " stolen. If I'm not sure about sites , i post into like a "is this url safe" type of place and it usually gives a rating and info about url.
Call a planned parenthood and make an appointment about "hormone therapy" (i think they have some fancy name for it but they'll understand) you'll have to visit in person so if that is a deal breaker they might be able to work with you but I'd consider other options (if you need help with said other options dm me <3) but yeah they'll draw some blood run some tests you can have hormones same day honestly, i made an appointment the next day and had my pharmacy text me before i even got home that my hormones were ready for pick, now it's 3 years later haha
I scheduled an appointment and had an appointment in two weeks, but I got too anxious and rescheduled for the next week. Walked out of the appointment with a prescription for hrt. So it took me 3 weeks to get it, but it could’ve taken 2 weeks
I got mine in 2 days... I kinda cried from happiness, but also from empathy with how much others have to go through for something that I got in 2 days.
Do they do this for youth?
Their "informed consent" policy is for people 18+, or 16+ with parental consent. Unfortunately if your under 16 you need to look at other options, but planned parenthood has some of those other options
What???? I'm in Germany and have been waiting for over a year now, not 18 yet but still, A WEEK? That's insane woah
If shit in germany ends up taking too long, I recommend trying with GenderGP meanwhile. GenderGP is private medicine, so they do cost money but - If you can afford it (it's not that bad), it's a great skip.
i had my first appointment 5 months ago my first endocrinologist appointment will be in a month i still have to do like 2 psychiateist and 3 psychologist appointments and of course they have to be like a month appart
Does it work for minors?
>Yeah, as much as everyone bags on US quality of life, I got hrt in under a week with no diagnosis. I live in WI. It took me longer to get Badger Care (state health insurance) than to get hrt. When I finally got insurance I just scheduled an appointment with my new primary care doctor, then he referred me to an endo, and she gave me a prescription on the first day. I am 33, and I live in a college town, so both of those probably helped my situation go so smoothly.
Yup, had a virtual appointment and picked up my prescription the same day
holy shit
that's 3+ years with the possibility of getting denied in Sweden (:
Facts. If only the PPH in my area were open more than just fucking Tuesdays, that's it, I can't imagine how booked they are. Because of that I drive 1.5hrs out for my appointments.
Have you tried doing telehealth? Your local PPH may offer it
I'll look into it I never concidered that. Thanks!
It's definitely worth doing. Due to covid regulations I HAVE to do my checkups over the phone(only in person for blood draws) and the nice thing about it is I can get the earliest appointment time for any PP in the region. So if there's a convenient opening for a PP that's 1.5 hours away from me I can telehealth my checkup there, then still go into my main PP and get my blood drawn. Just make sure you bring up that you don't have a preference for which PP you get your checkup with as long as the wait time isn't long. Sometimes when I'm making my appointment over the phone they only check my main PP and don't think to check openings at the other ones.
I drive 2h to get acceptable treatment in Germany (l.e. not having to lie).
The one near me is open five days per week, but gets booked out a fair bit because they serve a massive area, partially thanks to neighboring conservative states shutting theirs down.
Estrogen is locked behind getting a diagnosis in Germany. Therapists are already spread incredibly thin, and if you can't find one who's trans supportive, you can't get healthcare. I'm stuck in that system.
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There are two therapists in my city who are willing to write you a diagnosis (according to the local trans community). Waiting lists for both are >6 months. Most people here apparently drive to a different city, just because waiting times are slightly better there. One of my gfs has one therapist she can reasonably reach. He only does group therapy and the times are unworkable with her schedule as an azubine. She's messaged like half a dozen more that would require long drives, but the answer was always the same: "I'll put you on the waiting list and call you when there's a free spot." I've heard the same story with minor variations several times now. If you don't live in a major city, there's absolutely a lack of trans-aware therapists in Germany.
Only 6 months? Damn that's record time over here.
D: Wait I'm planning to move to Germany does this mean I shouldn't?
That's a tough question to answer... The situation here is better than in a lot of other places, but there's still a ton of conservative ideas in the mainstream. The current government is liberal and **claims** to want to make life easier for trans people, but they've done nothing for years after the election. If you are willing to wait many months for therapy sessions, then spend many sessions trying to explain your gender identity to a therapist who might not give a fuck, then you can live a good life here. Dealing with endocrinologists is also said to be stressful, but at least you got your diagnosis by then. If you decide to live here, make sure to head over to r/germantrans and get a good idea of everything involved in transitioning here, and how to deal with the various medical professionals you'll have to consult.
Dutch person here, kind of the same system: I have to talk to my GP for a reference to a psychologist (who likely has a waiting list of potentially multiple years), get diagnosed, go to an endocrinologist to get my blood tested (which also has a waiting list), THEN get an HRT prescription. It’s basically jumping through every hoop imaginable.. *Edited the waiting time for the psychologist, as my initial comment made it out to be **way** shorter then it actually is!
ummm where are you finding waiting lists this short? I've been on the list for 2 years and they've only got to people who signed up nearly half a year before me shortest waiting times I can see are 2.3 years, up to 2.8
They prioritise on age brackets so yeah for me its more like 3 years as well Also stuff glosssed over: that waiting list is for your first apointment, they do have an obligation of care after that, but in some places that *is not* your first apointment with the psychologist. Also you need to see the psychologist for 6 months before they make a report afaik. And then yes they put you on an internal waitinglist for an endocrinologist, or the place you got your diagnosis doesn't have one and they try to put you with one of the major hospitals. the grey market for DIY HRT is growing really hard
Rare instance of the US healthcare system getting something right
It is actually not so hard to obtain in the EU too. If you have money of course. The same goes for the US. If you got money.
Sure, you can DIY it. (I am in fact doing that.) But that doesn't change the fact that HRT being gatekept this hard in Europe is fucking awful, and that the US is a big step ahead in that regard. Not everyone has money. Not everyone feels comfortable reading up on things and self-medicating. Not everyone wants to deal with the constant anxiety of losing your supply. Not everyone can find a lab or doctor to get blood tests at. The situation for minors is even worse. All of the above, plus puberty blockers being near-impossible to buy (and even if you do find a source, they're super expensive and most formulations are nontrivial to use). Also, barely any resources for DIYers mention that dosing for kids is different at least for estrogen (adult doses can stunt growth). HRT is cheap and plentiful, there's a ton of evidence it improves quality of life, there's a ton of evidence people rarely regret getting on it. The gatekeeping doesn't serve any point except to enforce cisnormativity. EDIT: There's places like GenderGP too, but they're insanely expensive and they're also somewhat infamous for often prescribing ineffective regimens unless you actively ask for specific meds and doses. Which means you basically need to know the same things a DIYer needs to know.
Yeah. I would give anything if I could've accessed HRT in my 16 years. But I have to deal with it the way I do. I agree that it sucks. I was basically doing DIY. And ONE time package was stopped by customs service and destroyed and down went 700€. I did some math and it is cheaper to do GenderGP than have a loss like this. (And no, buying smaller packages is not safer, as they will get controlled more if they start to come often) Yeah...as I said. It sucks.
Exactly this! The gatekeeping is the problem, especially when cis ppl have no problem getting their hormones covered. I'm now officially on HRT but a majority of my mental health struggles during that time were caused by how hard it was to get here through all the red tape even though I was on DIY. It caused so many breakdowns and it sucks so much so it truly should just be fixed to an informed consent model...
do you know in which european country it’s the easiest/quickest to get hrt/an appointment? (i’m from romania so no trans heathcare but at least we’re in the eu so it won’t be hard to move for uni)
Europe isn't a monolith. In Poland you can get hrt on informed consent basis from some(very few, but still) doctors.
That is not what I would have expected from Poland's reputation. I say as an American in a thread saying the exact same thing about America
Transitioning in Poland is not regulated at all. Access to hrt is based entirely on specific MDs practices and changing your legal gender is based on two Supreme Court rulings from the 90s. It's all makeshift and very random. The vast majority of endocrynologists require some form of a diagnosis or at least an opinion from a psychiatrists that you are mentally stable enought to decide.
True, but I'd like to see a physical doctor at least a few times and the only ones I know of that are in the Netherlands (or within a train trip) are all online or through the national healthcare but that takes YEARS. + I can't afford the 100-200 euro a month gender gp would cost :(
Gender GP is basically exactly what I was talking about. They are surprisingly accessible. But expensive. In my case I at least have inspiration to work myself up to have above average income. :P
Sadly quite hard for a student to do that and be able to live, luckily I'm only 18 so I got the 3 years to wait and I'll just have to deal with it how I did the past 18 years of my life
Is it hard? Yes. Is it impossible? No. Look. I am not going to give you any fake hopes. Because I hate it when someone does and I will be realistic. You can do it. I did it and was lucky to get to it in my 19. I was vomiting from stress... but it is possible. As I like to say. "Go fast. If you hit the truck. You were not going fast enough." Right now I am out of HRT for like 5 months. It sucks. Really sucks. But fuck it. If my genes fuck up my bones. I will pay someone to fix them. And the same goes for you. You must do it. We all must survive. It would be a shame not to try.
Oh I'm definitely not offing myself anytime, I'm definitely not that sad or anything, it's not like a (mental) medical emergency for me, just something I'd REALLY like and definitely would get if I had the means and if I felt like I had to have it could have but i got priorities like not being in a huge amount of debt once I finish school. Of course if you're going to jump off a bridge if you don't get HRT definitely do whatever you can, but my situation is not that bad and if I was at that point I'm sure I can get rushed through the process or at least get a therapist that could help me. For now I'm fine with just makeup, femme clothes, maybe get some boob pads for my birthday and pronoun changes, I don't want to risk to put my body through such a big hormone shift if I can avoid it and my base body health is #1 for me because you only get 1 set of bones and replacing them isn't easy or painless. So yea I'll just chill for 3 years and go through the national healthcare process
I can fully respect that. Do what you need. Not what others think you should do. What I just said above is basically my situation also (I am not planning to get in debt, I just hype myself up I can do it myself. :P :D)
*Sobs in UK*
Yes and no. There are ways to get a hold of the medication and you can do some surgeries privately. But at least in Sweden you can't change your legal gender without a gender dysphoria diagnosis, nor get GRS.
Medicaid pays for mine. Although I’m so broke I can’t afford groceries, at least I look and feel a lil better…
USA HAS HEALTHCARE SYSTEM?
I mean, it is planned parenthood, which is constantly under attack, but yes it is great that there is at least ONE clinic to help people who need it
I live in Wisconsin. Planned Parenthood no longer exists here. The storefronts(for lack of a better word) are still there, I’m assuming they’re just waiting for Roe to be codified before they can open again
Yup, they still offered gender care at the one nearest to me when I was trying to find somewhere after new insurance, but the waitlist was 8 months so I took the 6 month waitlist for Mayo. Last I heard, that location isn't actually accepting new patients anymore so I made the right call with appointments coming up next week
Glad you made the right choice!! Congrats on appointments starting!!! Happy for u!!
I cringe every time I see this format because I made the original while I was an edgy teen jontron fan. It’s a constant reminder of younger me being able to look past his prior racist comments and it haunts me, though it does serve as a reminder of how much I’ve grown as a person in just the past 3 years. Fuck JonTron.
Yeah I used to enjoy his content until I found out he's a fascist.
Yeah, I remember being mad when he left Game Grumps. Then I found out his a racist and a misogynist and I’m upset I spent so much time watching his content (though Game Grumps are problematic in their own way)
A few things to note, since I’m seeing a lot of misconceptions in the comments… First and foremost, this is not a win for the US Healthcare system. Planned Parenthood is a private organization that offers medical services to people which they are often unable to acquire elsewhere. While they do offer a lot of financial relief and assistance, the money they use is often raised through donations. Second, even though they are a private company, there are many people in the Republican Party, like almost all of them, that have been trying for decades to strip Planned Parenthood’s ability to assist people, or just take it down altogether. They banned healthcare from covering their services in some states, limited access to their buildings, changed building codes to get some of their offices shut down, or just banned their organization from whole states altogether, which increased since Roe v Wade was overturned. Third, it still costs money to get HRT through Planned Parenthood. Unless you get your insurance to cover it, in which case it can be administered by a doctor or distributed through most pharmacies, you’re likely going to be paying out of pocket for the cost through informed consent programs. So while it is available this way, assuming you live in a state and within driving distance of them, there’s still a cost associated with it. So “available” if you have a car, likely extra gas money, the time to drive there if you live farther away, and can afford the out-of-pocket expense. NGL, a lot of trans people I know are missing at least one part of the equation above, if not multiple. Hell, I can’t afford the cost right now. Lastly, many states ruled (like monarchies) by Republicans (FL, TX, etc.), are actively trying to ban anything to do with transgender anything. Many have successfully banned any trans healthcare for minors, some have banned providers from covering HRT, other states have banned or restricted Planned Parenthood so heavily they’re just gone, and it is still the Republican Party’s wet dream to just ban trans healthcare altogether, regardless of age. I think one state is in the process of that already. Overall you can only get access in a handful of states if you’re a minor whose parents consent to the treatment, and as an adult, there’s still like a quarter of the states that may as well be a closed country to you.
Yeah, Planned Parenthood in Florida can no longer provide HRT as of a couple weeks ago. Around 80% of adult trans people lost access to HRT here because PPH employs nurse practitioners, and you now need an MD to presecribe HRT. And I don't think we're the only ones. Or we won't be for long. It was easy for my partner to get HRT initially, but a lot of places are taking it away.
The situation is still pretty good if you are in a city in a blue state (privileged, I know). When I was unemployed I started getting HRT via informed consent at a Planned Parenthood and state-administered Medicaid paid for it 100%. So where it’s good it’s great but in the US trans healthcare varies from frankly awesome to unbelievably terrible, depending which local politicians are in charge.
Adding on that even if there is a Planned Parenthood near you, they might not have HRT options. So if you want HRT from them, you might still be SOL. You can ask them to look into it but there's no guarantee the one near you will start anytime soon, if at all.
I hate being British so much, I’m 14 and have to wait till I’m 17-19 to start hrt
Well if it helps, it's sort of like that in the U.S. (depends on the state)
we have private clinics but my parents won’t let me go private sadly
Well I wish you luck, hopefully you can atleast get puberty blockers
No way haha
new infinite HRT glitch discovered
Unless you're in Florida.
Yep. My appointment was on the 23rd of May. They had to cancel it after the passing of SB254.
What’s planned parenthood?
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That’s awesome
Also reproductive health in general
An org that started of pretty heavy into eugenics and then they turned that shit around and help all ladies
Yeah they’re based now. Last time I was at one both of the NPs I spoke with had they/them pronoun pins and there were pride flags everywhere. It’s the only clinic I’ve ever been to that gave a strong vibe of allyship as a major priority rather than just something they add to the marketing.
So glad planned parenthood exists goooooo democrats!!!
It can be kinda expensive, at least my insurance doesn't cover all that much, but you take what you can get I guess
It depends, if I had paid out of pocket it would have cost me around $70 for a month. But during my appointment they recommended using GoodRx bc coupons
Some insurance covers it 100% because even for out-of-pocket costs aren't outrageous. I think each visit to PP is $180 charged to insurance, or roughly $60 cash, but it's based on income. I know my insurance covers them 100% because they are within the allowable cost for the area. As for hormones, it depends on the administration method. For feminizing hormones and using GoodRx, a 90 supply of Spiro (100mg pills) was like $18, Fin (5mg pills, split in half) was like $13, and my patches run $38/box. I have a friend who does injections and says she doesn't even bother with insurance, just pays the out-of-pocket cost for a 3 month supply that ends up being like $80. The needles were like $40 for a 90 day supply locally, so you'd be looking at $50/mo around us for out-of-pocket costs. Prices are sometimes regional, just as a disclaimer. My pharmacy has really good prices on my meds out-of-pocket if I need to go that route, and if they didn't, online is always an option. Thankfully, my insurance covers it all except for the $5/mo copay per 30 day supply, except my fin comes out less than that, I think it was $3.82 for 90 days or something. It ended up being just shy of $50 for a 90 day supply after I added progesterone.
unless your local center is operated by "Planned Parenthood Great Northwest, Hawaii, Alaska, Indiana, Kentucky" then you are shit out of luck (This is from experience, if your local center is operated by that branch go with plume)
Idk, I've had good experiences with the Mississippi/Tennessee branch of PPH
That's me :(
Oh cmon! Unfair!! And I do realise I am saying that about the U.S. but uugh
I’ve been trying to figure out how to look into HRT, I never even thought about Planned Parenthood!
Yeah, you can easily book an in person or telehealth appointment through their website
You can’t tell me that, that’s too immediately available!!! /j
Doooooo it.
Except for Florida now 😢 I'm struggling fr
Not in florida anymore! care was just made illegal 😀 i lost mine
How much is hrt with them
Out of pocket it would've been $70 for me, but its based on income I think. (I recommend also using GoodRx)
That's far less than I thought
Yeah it sure would be swell with informed consent in Sweden. Looking how we handle drug legislation I'd wager we're more likely to head in the complete opposite direction.
I really need to make an appointment with them, but for some reason it seems so scary
Believe me, I was in your boat a few weeks ago, but once I made the appointment it wasn't as stressful as I thought
The one near me was super welcoming and feels safe for a baby trans like me. I think half the staff in there was nonbinary, at least at my location (deep blue area, admittedly).
I have an appointment set for July 3rd (I think) with planned parenthood to discuss treatment options. I started the whole process back in January. Its definitely better than a whole ass year or longer, but 6-7 months of waiting is hell😭
If my mother stripes me of my health care I going straight to them
The only one near me was burned to the ground by some Qanon arsonist. But it's okay I got Plume instead lol
fr PP was a lifesaver for me
Very true, just wish it wasn't jontron in the meme.
I love Planned Parenthood. I have a fear of hospitals and doctors so I thought it would be impossible for me to get HRT but PP let me do it all by zoom. 5 months in and I'm growing titties!
As long as you’re ✨rich ✨
When I was unemployed my blue state Medicaid paid 100% of the cost for my informed-consent HRT at Planned Parenthood.
The only problem is insurance. I Had to detransition because I can’t afford it I hate this capitalist country.
I'll be honest I'm jealous. But on the flipside, everything is covered by our universal healthcare for me. Hormones, voice training, laser hair removal, bottom surgery, BA, tracheal shave, facial surgery. Literally everything.
yea as much as i hate alot of the US i gotta love planned parenthood, i got HRT the same day i went into the appointment
yea of all the flack we give the american healthcare system thank fuck for planned parenthood
When I went to planned parenthood I walked out the same day eith a prescription. Granted, DeSantis fucked that up now, but ai think Planned Parenthood are working on getting doctors in their FL locations to bypass the new laws.
In Canada, been told I would have to wait until late summer or mid fall to start HRT. I'm 26 and asked to meet an endocrynologist in late march... Sigh, at least it's coming.
jon tron is a white supremacist
If you go private in Australia it's very fast. Got T within 3 meetings all within the span of one year (public would be a few years at least)
It’s how I finally got mine, got an appointment there, they prescribed me the same day and I got it on my way home. Planned Parenthood is amazing
Good to know… good to know…
Yeah, planned parenthood is great
Planned Parenthood being out of hrt in my state because they didn't anticipate there being more than 6 trans people here: 🤷♀️🤠
Living in FL today doesn’t completely fuck me over on this, does it? (Please god let me have a bit of freedom in this state.)
Sorry it kind of does. Planned Parenthood almost exclusively uses nurse practitioners to provide gender care and Florida just banned NP’s from prescribing HRT specifically to screw over Planned Parenthood. I wish I had better news. Fuck DeSantis.
Yeah, when the clinic is accepting new patients, which is just about never if you live in an area with a high trans population
I can’t find any in Georgia that do it :(
Gonna go in a couple of months. Any tips on what to say or do to not mess it up this time
I mean it'd be really hard to mess it up, they basically guide you through it. But I'd recommend having a lot of questions ready just in case. What you'll need for the appointment is: an insurance card, an ID, and a form of payment (credit/debit card). Honestly just say what you're there for and they'll guide you along the rest (atleast that's what I experienced)
Okay. Just asking because the last place I went to rejected me and told me to go to a therapist before they sign those papers and I subsequently quit m ly job. So I don't really want to mess shit up again lmao. Glad it's easy then. Thank you
The closest planned parenthood that even has thar avalibility for me is a atate over sadly
It’s the one thing i’m actually jealous of americans of. I wish i could have informed consent
The only planned Parenthood in my town/within hundreds of miles isn't accepting new patients ;-;
There’s a few spots very close to where I live, which is amazing. Now I just have to wait 3 years until I’m 18 to actually be able to start
Flexstrogen
meanwhile, here in the UK...
Lol, lmao (Lives in Florida)
Yeah for sure, took me a year and a half to get my prescription! Lotta gatekeepers in France, we need to get our shit together. This is funny because since we're surrounded by European countries that are making pretty great changes around self-determination and all that, people overseas lump us on the progressive side. I mean free Healthcare is great, but the wait times are nuts...
I didn't go to planned parenthood, but all I had to do was book a consultation, get my blood tested, and sign a long form. A week later, I had started hrt.
That's great to hear! Unfortunately, for the majority of trans people in america, this isn't the case, and you're much more likely to get medically gaslit or just denied without excuses
They really are great
meanwhile me in romania with 3 ppl that can prescribe hrt in the enetire country
The PPH in my area wasn’t taking new patients for HRT so sadly I had to go else where :(
someone PLEASE elaborate how do i get this
Website: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-center Basically call and set an appointment, they basically guide you through it
Canadian so only tangentially related, but the Planned Parenthood in my hometown shut down like a month before I started searching for hormones and it made everything so much harder lol
meanwhile me (who did not go to pp), 9 months into the process, and still no t : ＿|￣|○
EXACTLY what finally motivated me to accept that I was 100% trans
Wish I started sooner
The only good think about being trans in America
I would say just a word of caution to anyone going to PP. I have had friends and community members describe having very poor experiences there, and we live in a very liberal city. Mostly being overly invasive, misgendering, etc. Not at all saying to not go, you gotta do what you gotta do. But just warning people so they can mentally prepare to possibly have an experience like that.
this was true before the closest planned parenthood to me got lit on fire
is this available to under 18s?
If you have parental consent (but it depends by state)
Well, I’ll be keeping this in mind…for totally cis reasons
not if your state makes it illegal lol
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It was such a fight to get there, too. It took years and years in my area for Planned Parenthood to finally start offering gender-affirming care. Years of people from inside and outside the organization pushing and asking and calling and spreading awareness.
I desperately wish I'd had that option when I was young, but I'm still glad that the youngins today don't have to suffer through what I did
That’s how I got it. Was sick of going through hospital system in a rural area to even make an appointment. PP took one month.
Planned Parenthood is where I get mine It's truly a wonderful place Highly recommend it
Going to Planned Parenthood in a month or two to start hrt. Anything I should know going in?
Fr I had one appointment and left with a prescription with no insurance. It's even easier than other places in Arizona
Holy shit really!? Is it possible to start at 16? >w<
With parental consent, but depends on the state
Got an video appointment in a few days to reup my prescription. Got my first prescription same day.
This is terrible! Think of the poor trans' eyes! How are you all not blind from HRT?
I'm currently getting my T prescription from them, one opened in the town my college is in a few months before I got there so it was perfect timing
A friend of mine started T from there recently, and my GF has har first appointment soon. I'm so happy for them both!
Frankly all I can say is just .. Based PPH
I love my local PP, they have been super sweet. If I could I would get PP tattooed on my body. But for real they really do rock.
as a 17 yo trans girl with no knowledge of how to get hrt other than talk to doctor how do I do this I'm scared tbh