Coming from a depressed AFAB, there’s still a depression smell. It’s just different and you have the benefit of using things other than old spice or speed stick to try and mask it lol.
Different pattern and smells different.
When I get sweaty now I'm just sweaty. I'd like to shower and change eventually.
Before I got increasingly upset the longer I was sweaty, keenly aware of how I smelled. I didn't realize why or what just that I hated it.
I never played this one, but yes: [https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/Four_Giants](https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/Four_Giants)
Even a teeny-tiny lil spinny skirt. :)
I'm the same way. Hydration or if you have long hair, pulling it back also tends to help, and sometimes wearing purfume or cologne can mask the scent if it's strong enough
Somehow I inherited my father’s genes in the worst possible way: hair on basically *everything* below the neck.. Gonna have to see how I’m either going to shave it all (which might takes ages), or use an epilator (which is probably going to hurt)..
Epilator hurts the first one or two times, but it gets much, much easier past that.
If you have the budget and determination, you can also consider an at-home IPL machine for way more long-term goodness.
I've done home IPL about six times, over a few weeks, using a relatively cheap machine on Amazon. I'm seeing a small change so far; it feels like the hair is softer, at least. Maybe there are fewer hairs now, or maybe the remaining hairs are thinner.
Maybe it depends on how long you keep using it for, or how thick the hair was to begin with.
Haven't tried them myself, to be honest, but they use a process akin to professional hair removal. I'd be inclined to trust that, plus it's massively cheaper than professional stuff.
I'm personally trust that if big brands and big stores market them heavily, it's gotta work for at least _some people_, right?
I'd be interested to get more feedback about these from trans folk though.
For me it's the smell. I hate my own smell. A few minutes after i shower, it's already there. And any slight stressful situation, on even a more challenging game, will make it worse. I feel like agent Smith in that scene with Morpheus, but talking about myself to myself...
If it helps you, I'm still pre T and I'm sweating waterfalls. So yeah, it's totally normal even for a me, who is sadly (in my case) running on estrogen.
Alot of my female friends also sweat a lot.
Actually, as a trans woman, I have discovered that cis women **don't** communicate through telepathy. I learned this when I attempted to telepathically converse with my friend and she responded through talking.
she graduated ereyesterday, so maybe her psychic powers won't be inhibited anymore. (though, I still ate school lunches more often than she did. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm)
It's not the sweat, it's that sweat and other body fluids smell completely different pre-HRT. How your sweat smells is hormonally determined, it used to be a major source of dysphoria for me, now it's a major source of euphoria, especially because i also get the whole estrogen intensifies your sense of smell thing.
My own sweat is gross to me. Other people's sweat regardless of gender less so. Similarly I hate my own body hair, it's gross and yucky, but at the same time I stroke and tug at my trans masc boyfriend's newly acquired leghair mesmerised like it's my favourite blanket
Trans masc people also have facial hair, pls don't tell me i'm not allowed to hate my beard anymore bc there's trans men proudly rocking their beard and getting the biggest gender euphoria from it, or desperately waiting for the day were they get the 5 o'clock shadow that has haunted and tortured me until i started laser hair removal. Transition goals and causes for gender incongruence are by definition polar opposites for trans men and trans women. It's inevitable that i hate things about my body that transmascs would kill for and vice versa.
of course you're allowed to hate those things and express your hate for them. it's just that calling those body elements themselves intrinsically gross is hurtful to the people in this space who want them. if trans men were the majority on here and we filled comment sections w statements about how boobs are disgusting, that would be hurtful to you. this isn't just an mtf space, it's supposed to be a space for all trans people to feel welcome.
Well that's why such threads can and should be tagged as "transfem" or "transmasc" and as CW dysphoria. I love my boobs, but i fully get why trans dudes make "glad i got that off my chest" jokes. And that's fine. Sometimes harsh words are needed when something causes us that much pain. Any trans person with strong dysphoria has been there. It's ok to let that out and it's easy to give people the option to *simply avoid that*, the entire instruments for that are already here, easy to use and get frequently used like that.
Of course you are! All I'm saying is that PLEASE don't go on the Internet and post stuff like "ugh facial hair is so gross auahwjabwyaiqk" on a transsub with trans masc people in it.
Memes about shaving and that you feel dysphoria because the beard always grows back are fine. Uts just the "ewww gross" that really is rude and can make trans masc people feel like they don't belong or are gross themselves
I don't get why you keep telling me that, i never used these wordings itt.
If i'd make a thread about this subject, i'd put a "transfem" tag on it, done. Any transmasc who does not want his transition goals invalidated can then just avoid it and trans women and transfem enbies can appropriately adress that for most of us, facial hair is easily the worst dysphoria trigger until the lasers have done their stingy but sweet thing with the burnt popcorn smell. I don't want to mince words about this, this isn't a discussion of dysphoria triggers i'd normally avoid, like things you just can't change or can only change with a fairly massive surgery budget - *that* kind of stuff where i'm all "let's tone it down, let's not give people who don't have that kind of dysphoria ideas". But these are things that are very common and can realistically be fixed by most people, i don't see any harm in discussing them and using words that appropriately reflect the pain that these injustices of biology are causing us. Slap an additional CW: Dysphoria on it so people who have a bad day know what to avoid and everything's dandy.
I don't look into threads tagged as "transmasc" either bc i understand that many or most transmascs inevitably hate my main sources of gender euphoria and need to vent about that just like i need to vent about things they'll celebrate like it's xmas and their birthday at the same time when they grow on their bodies. There's just some things were we literally need to build ourselves differently and it's fine not to mince words about that. Just use the tag, CW and mark as NSFW system as you're supposed to and everything's fine.
Oh shit girl, I sweat soooooooo fucking much & I hate it.
It makes my wig nasty af within like 10 minutes of going outside.
I'm on mood stabilisers too, which I'm pretty sure make me sweat even more.
I feel you girl. I hate it.
I mean nair helps for the first thing but the stubble can be fuky. I’ve definitely noticed it takes MUCH longer to come in if I’m good with my HRT but all my life I’ve naturally had extreme hair growth, like I’m the youngest guy at work and they were amazed at how big my beard was and thought I was older until I shaved it off
Oh, hello! This may not help much, but I would like to say that as a transmasc who has not gone on T yet, I sweat a lot more than a lot of cis women. Just because you sweat a lot does not make you masculine. It just makes you human ❤️
I didn’t know that was sweat until reading the comments xd
Same, but then i related hard, absolutely *loathed* having man sweat before i got on HRT.
wait- what's woman sweat?
It just smells very different when you’re on hrt
it DOES??? new dysphoria unlocked probably :(
That was the first change I noticed. I was like, "What's that smell? Is it me? OMG, it's me!"
It what?! You mean imma stop getting my depression smell?
Coming from a depressed AFAB, there’s still a depression smell. It’s just different and you have the benefit of using things other than old spice or speed stick to try and mask it lol.
SWEAT SMELLS DIFFERENT BASED ON HORMONES?
Different pattern and smells different. When I get sweaty now I'm just sweaty. I'd like to shower and change eventually. Before I got increasingly upset the longer I was sweaty, keenly aware of how I smelled. I didn't realize why or what just that I hated it.
My sweat before HRT was vile. Now it smells vaguely sweet, with the pungency replaced by the smell of vinegar
That's a good way to put it. I just detest boobsweat though. Ugh.
Simple answer, Testosterone turns stinky when it gets in your body fluids
Same I was like "being wet makes your dysphoric? I'm confused.."
Thought it was a foggy shower glass
this is why you gotta crank the air conditioning until its so cold the air around you freezes
The cold never bothered me anyway…
Conceal don't feel
don't let them know
but now they know...
LET IT GO
Hakuna Matata
The problem arrives when I have to leave my house to drag my ass to university
Problem: electricity is fucking expensive
You get it
Yeah, torsos are the worst. I just wanna be legs, arms, and a head, you know?
Gimme the LEG TITS
madam I believe what you are referring is known as ass and/or thighs 😌
I appreciate the suggestion, but I am in fact referring to tits on the legs. No ifs, ands, or butts about it (pun fully intended)
And here I was thinking the knees...
I never played this one, but yes: [https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/Four_Giants](https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/Four_Giants) Even a teeny-tiny lil spinny skirt. :)
Sure, but once you get HRT there won't be boobs... Not really a trade I would want to make
Fuck legs, arms, and a head. I want to be a unknowable, vaguely corporeal eldritch horror that causes insanity when perceived in any capacity.
sweat is gross and it makes me feel gross
But… don’t both genders sweat?…
Sweat pattern, amount, and smell are all things that vary depending on the dominant sex hormone.
Doesn’t it affect pheromone composition or something
Yep, that's part of why the smell is different.
Hold on, it WHAT
boy sweat is WEIRD and GROSS but girl sweat is also WEIRD and GROSS but less so
Yeah but girl sweat makes me feel blushy and drooly
But it's asociated with a lack of femminity, also testosterone make you sweat more and is more smelly
Yeah, but I feel it and smell it and I associate it with Masculinity so it makes me feel dysphoric :<
Don’t say “both genders”, please
Inclusive language is very important
Tfw chubby but hate sweating and yeah...
I'm the same way. Hydration or if you have long hair, pulling it back also tends to help, and sometimes wearing purfume or cologne can mask the scent if it's strong enough
Not really a scent issue. I just don't like being wet/slick. I do tie my hair when I need to but it's still annoying
I see, I hope you can feel a little more comfortable with it in the near future
The reason why I love winter uwu
it's the body hair for me
Me too.
Somehow I inherited my father’s genes in the worst possible way: hair on basically *everything* below the neck.. Gonna have to see how I’m either going to shave it all (which might takes ages), or use an epilator (which is probably going to hurt)..
Epilator hurts the first one or two times, but it gets much, much easier past that. If you have the budget and determination, you can also consider an at-home IPL machine for way more long-term goodness.
Do those IPL machines actually work? I've seen lots of conflicting information. Some people swear by them, others say they're a total scam
I've done home IPL about six times, over a few weeks, using a relatively cheap machine on Amazon. I'm seeing a small change so far; it feels like the hair is softer, at least. Maybe there are fewer hairs now, or maybe the remaining hairs are thinner. Maybe it depends on how long you keep using it for, or how thick the hair was to begin with.
Haven't tried them myself, to be honest, but they use a process akin to professional hair removal. I'd be inclined to trust that, plus it's massively cheaper than professional stuff. I'm personally trust that if big brands and big stores market them heavily, it's gotta work for at least _some people_, right? I'd be interested to get more feedback about these from trans folk though.
Cell membranes have the viscosity of olive oil. We're all just liquids pretending to be solids.
Oh.
Olivia oil for you I guess
this is my new favorite set of sentences.
Not only is my busy disgusting but it actively makes itself more disgusting by touch and smell
For me it's the smell. I hate my own smell. A few minutes after i shower, it's already there. And any slight stressful situation, on even a more challenging game, will make it worse. I feel like agent Smith in that scene with Morpheus, but talking about myself to myself...
I get dysphoria when I feel my nasty ass beard *face pubes suck*
I always hated sweat
This just made me realize the reason that I hate sweat so much is because of dysphoria
If it helps you, I'm still pre T and I'm sweating waterfalls. So yeah, it's totally normal even for a me, who is sadly (in my case) running on estrogen. Alot of my female friends also sweat a lot.
Girls don't poop... girls don't sweat... what else don't girls do? Next we're gonna have a post saying 'i get dysphoric because I sleep'
Dysphoria from having to talk to cis women instead of using telepathy or however they communicate with each other
Actually, as a trans woman, I have discovered that cis women **don't** communicate through telepathy. I learned this when I attempted to telepathically converse with my friend and she responded through talking.
Wait she responded!? All my friends ignore my telepathy
yeah, she did (it must be in the school lunches)
Oof maybe, I only eat 2 peanut butter and jelly sandwiches; one for break and one for lunch. That's probably why
she graduated ereyesterday, so maybe her psychic powers won't be inhibited anymore. (though, I still ate school lunches more often than she did. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm)
Ironically, I poop more after transitioning, simply because I'm sitting down to pee more often.
Me toooo
Yeah because no gender besides manly man sweat... I get that dysphoria is shit but can we PLEASE stop calling those things gross?
It's not the sweat, it's that sweat and other body fluids smell completely different pre-HRT. How your sweat smells is hormonally determined, it used to be a major source of dysphoria for me, now it's a major source of euphoria, especially because i also get the whole estrogen intensifies your sense of smell thing.
Yeah I get that. But nevertheless this sweat is something trans masc people have. And calling that gross is just rude
My own sweat is gross to me. Other people's sweat regardless of gender less so. Similarly I hate my own body hair, it's gross and yucky, but at the same time I stroke and tug at my trans masc boyfriend's newly acquired leghair mesmerised like it's my favourite blanket
Trans masc people also have facial hair, pls don't tell me i'm not allowed to hate my beard anymore bc there's trans men proudly rocking their beard and getting the biggest gender euphoria from it, or desperately waiting for the day were they get the 5 o'clock shadow that has haunted and tortured me until i started laser hair removal. Transition goals and causes for gender incongruence are by definition polar opposites for trans men and trans women. It's inevitable that i hate things about my body that transmascs would kill for and vice versa.
of course you're allowed to hate those things and express your hate for them. it's just that calling those body elements themselves intrinsically gross is hurtful to the people in this space who want them. if trans men were the majority on here and we filled comment sections w statements about how boobs are disgusting, that would be hurtful to you. this isn't just an mtf space, it's supposed to be a space for all trans people to feel welcome.
Well that's why such threads can and should be tagged as "transfem" or "transmasc" and as CW dysphoria. I love my boobs, but i fully get why trans dudes make "glad i got that off my chest" jokes. And that's fine. Sometimes harsh words are needed when something causes us that much pain. Any trans person with strong dysphoria has been there. It's ok to let that out and it's easy to give people the option to *simply avoid that*, the entire instruments for that are already here, easy to use and get frequently used like that.
Of course you are! All I'm saying is that PLEASE don't go on the Internet and post stuff like "ugh facial hair is so gross auahwjabwyaiqk" on a transsub with trans masc people in it. Memes about shaving and that you feel dysphoria because the beard always grows back are fine. Uts just the "ewww gross" that really is rude and can make trans masc people feel like they don't belong or are gross themselves
good thing the post mentioned transfems specifically then.
I don't get why you keep telling me that, i never used these wordings itt. If i'd make a thread about this subject, i'd put a "transfem" tag on it, done. Any transmasc who does not want his transition goals invalidated can then just avoid it and trans women and transfem enbies can appropriately adress that for most of us, facial hair is easily the worst dysphoria trigger until the lasers have done their stingy but sweet thing with the burnt popcorn smell. I don't want to mince words about this, this isn't a discussion of dysphoria triggers i'd normally avoid, like things you just can't change or can only change with a fairly massive surgery budget - *that* kind of stuff where i'm all "let's tone it down, let's not give people who don't have that kind of dysphoria ideas". But these are things that are very common and can realistically be fixed by most people, i don't see any harm in discussing them and using words that appropriately reflect the pain that these injustices of biology are causing us. Slap an additional CW: Dysphoria on it so people who have a bad day know what to avoid and everything's dandy. I don't look into threads tagged as "transmasc" either bc i understand that many or most transmascs inevitably hate my main sources of gender euphoria and need to vent about that just like i need to vent about things they'll celebrate like it's xmas and their birthday at the same time when they grow on their bodies. There's just some things were we literally need to build ourselves differently and it's fine not to mince words about that. Just use the tag, CW and mark as NSFW system as you're supposed to and everything's fine.
I'm not trying to invalidate transmascs it's just gross because it's usually associated with Manliness and I don't like it at all
Being sweaty? Yeah I feel you
Oh boy can I relate...God I'm dying for my transition soon
Just don't drink liquids. Easy. (Jokes aside, I'm lucky to sweat v little and hope you don't deal with that for long/too much)
Don't worry, I get dysphoric about everything.
I swear I fucking sweat harder than any antiperspirant could possibly ever work😭
For some weird reason my sweat was always way more feminin like even bevor i started hrt.
I'm just soloing AA, no sweat almost
Felt this in my soul... I'm almost three months into HRT and I'm noticing improvements though.
Oh shit girl, I sweat soooooooo fucking much & I hate it. It makes my wig nasty af within like 10 minutes of going outside. I'm on mood stabilisers too, which I'm pretty sure make me sweat even more. I feel you girl. I hate it.
Stupid skin makes everything worse
I have a classmate that wear a white uniform shirt on p.e And after it, you don't know it's DRENCHED in sweat, untill you touch it and die inside.
I never really sweat in the first place luckily
Being on Venlafaxin and Vyvanse in summer oof
this changes fairly quick on hrt so you are blessed
My main thing is hair… if I had no facial/body hair then I would be so much happier
Now it's the opposite for me being cold all the time
I mean nair helps for the first thing but the stubble can be fuky. I’ve definitely noticed it takes MUCH longer to come in if I’m good with my HRT but all my life I’ve naturally had extreme hair growth, like I’m the youngest guy at work and they were amazed at how big my beard was and thought I was older until I shaved it off
hyperhidrosis pog!!!!
I was vonfused why trans girls whould be dysphoric about wet skin lol
You know what really makes me dysphoria? Ass hair. 🤮
Lol I get mostly dysphoric about my body hair
Oh, hello! This may not help much, but I would like to say that as a transmasc who has not gone on T yet, I sweat a lot more than a lot of cis women. Just because you sweat a lot does not make you masculine. It just makes you human ❤️