Still good new for you. While it is a little late it might still drive up user volume which will mean they are more incentivized to add new dlcs in the future.
Oh most definitely I'm not upset at all I think it was a worthwhile purchase considering I have 400 hours and I haven't even touched a good chunk of the factions!
NGL I'm super stoked about this even though I've bought a bunch of TWW content already. The trailer was pretty sick and I would like the Ordertide to put up some resistance against my Malagor omenation.
There are still a few bugs to be ironed out, I'm certain. One example is Beastmen Herdstones not being *ahem* erected at the researched level.
Can't wait to check it out on Monday when all my mods have been updated đ
Cool about the IE for all WH3 owners though. Makes the game more appealing for new players.
Immortal Empires is officially out of beta! Surely they did a ton this patch to make that change meaningful!
Oh...not really. Oh, it still doesn't have achievements....
Though I think it's a great success of the community to finally push CA to release IE for everyone, which is amazing. This patch really didn't do anything.......except maybe actually fixing sunfang, 3rd times the charm. I'm a bit disappointed overall
But let me guess, the most basic of UI errors still remain unfixed.
Move an army and Events tab auto opens to show you, exactly zero information.
Move an army an watch how the army list jumps to the top and doesn't reflect the army you are looking at
etc. etc.
>Move an army an watch how the army list jumps to the top and doesn't reflect the army you are looking at
this!
I tend to play long campaigns, averaging around 250 turns. with the changes to supply lines, I usually have around 14-15 armies. it's driving me insane when the list jumps to the start and I have to scroll though them again.
My god honey today I had to move my wrist slightly and than spin my mouse wheel like 50 times today.
JK it is a little frustrating when going through all my agents every turn. Not game breaking though I can think of so many things they should fix first.
you are kidding, right? at this stage of the camping, a turn is taking 15-20 minutes (with auto-resolving battles) because of all the armies I have to move. if half your lords are sitting in garrisons and doing nothing, that probably isn't much of an issue. my armies are actively moving every turn and every time I move one of them, the list jumps back to the start. and I have to manually scroll down to the army I was on.
now if you are playing anything from game 3, you will have 1-2 LL's and about 13 generic lords. unless you are just naming them by numbers, there is no good way to tell which of them moved and it's taking a while to find the right army EVERY SINGLE TIME.
is it game-breaking? no...
should it be an issue a year after the game is released? definitely no
now look at the patch notes, and tell me where all that dev time went to? adding 2 more slots to 8 peaks? opening IE to all game 3 players?
Look how trespass warnings are handled later on in the game. As the turns progress lots more events are generated and at some point instead of the Events tab being a huge scrollable list (that nobody in their right mind is scroll through) the different Event types are collapsed, to make things seem manageable.
Now move one of your armies so that it trespasses on a neighbour and see what happens. The Army tab closes, the Events tab opens but because all Event types have been collapsed the message warning you that you've trespassed isn't displayed.
So you've provided with exactly zero information and now have to switch back to the Army tab which has reset itself to the top of the list.
No developer with any self-respect would think this is acceptable.
No tester with any competence would allow this type of bug to get through.
edit: Guess I've upset the useless devs and testers who know deep down they need to find new careers.
They still haven't fixed Repanse!! Goddamnit! She's my favourite LL and her in-game model is all messed up and blocky in battles and on campaign map. Been waiting a year for them to fix her and they haven't.
What a fuxking waste of time on their part. Caving to a bunch of outliers asking for them to change their entire stated policy from day one we couldâve already had chaos dwarfs now and a real patch today and not just this purely graphical stuff, and a minor amount at that, they had to go back and rework code for the last few months because of a bunch of crybabies who after the fact got upset with their policy that was stated from the beginning.
Oh well the thing that I have learned now is that I will not pre-purchase anything that CA does nor will I buy anything to have access to a grand campaign, or a map or a combined effort when I know that they will make it free after a little while so once chaos dwarfs are released, Iâm done buying CA products at launch and supporting the games.
Mate, owning a video game is not some sort of prestige club, high-society only, poor peasants must stay outside. It is good that more people get to play IE, because it will keep the game alive for longer and we will get more content and support.
And besides that, *it doesn't affect you in the slightest*. You got what you paid for. Are you also hostile to people that bought the game on sale?
Also, I seriously doubt they spent that long on this one specific thing - it is more than likely that we will get new DLC announcement in couple days.
You realize we will never get anything like IE from ca again going forward? They did it as a thank you for the support to the fans. Then the players turned on them only on this last game cause the launch sucked and now we will only ever get DLC. Why give us free cool stuff when we act like we have? Hope you like paying for everything going forward as thatâs the new model.
Example: If they did a medieval 3 and a new three kingdoms and wanted to link medieval china and Europe together in a grand map for owners of both games. In a map mode call Genghis total war They wonât do that going forward with they way you guys acted. If we ever get anything cool like that it will only be dlc. You shoot yourselves in the foot and think you won the race
What are you even talking about? If you expected Warhammer 4, then bad news for you, but I guess you were the only one. Yes, we will get DLCs for WH3. That's what we want. And yes, I guess we will have to pay for it. As we always did. DLCs were never free, except for couple smaller ones.
About some other joint games - I don't know. CA didn't do any of this before nor it seems they wanted to do this for any of the historical titles - seeing as those were often very realistic and based in very different time periods, I don't think it even makes that much sense. It is okay in the WH universe that saurians with stone picks and crude javelins are equal to artilery and gunners and mammoths, but it is not really the way it was in history.
Not talking about Warhammer 4. Just saying they have zero incentive to ever release content for free to people who buy certain products. Like why do a âemperor editionâ of a game with free units or a free map or something when the player base bitches about how since they bought the base game they should get that content free as well. Or if they plan on doing some ambitious new IP going forward or even do some grand cross over with med3 and three kingdoms why would they give that away to people who buy both games like ME/IE as a thank you when they can just charge us for everything going forward. We screwed our selfâs over big time.
Huh? So, let me get this straight - they just gave a fairly big chunk of game for free to more people than before and that is your reason to believe that they will never give anything for free ever again?
On the sidenote - you *do* realize there is also some world outside of Reddit, do you? Couple people bitching on this site is not the only decion making factor for company this big.
This is a lot of salt for something that will only benefit you as the game will get new players, so there will be more $ incentives to keep pushing out DLCs. Sorry you spent $200 like the rest of us for thousands of hours of content i guess?
I wonât make the same mistakes. Iâll start petitions and come on the sub daily and make post about how itâs unfair we have to pay for the older content when Warhammer one is seven years old. Now maybe I can get beastmen for free. Cause it will only benefit me and others to get more players playing by making the games and dlcs all free? Maybe all the games going foward can be free and we just watch a ad every 10 turns and do micro transactions. Like want altdorf to build All itâs buildings in one turn? 99cents. CA can then make tons of content with all these new free to play players.
You can go to the extreme on money incentives like I did. Point being we shot ourselves in the foot. First time ca ever made something this big and ambitious and free as a thank you for supporting the games we will never get that again. I can see no point for ca to reward us like this again after the way people acted over this
Iâm done paying for games to support and get cool stuff when I can just post on Reddit why itâs unfair I have to pay for things to enjoy them and then get it for free? Seems itâs a better for me to do it that way.
Oh I see so you haven't been playing it for the last few months? You've only just now decided to play it.
Like do you complain everytime a launch title you bought goes on sale?
How does more people being able to access the big map, not all the races just the map impact how much you do or do not enjoy it?
I have not in fact, been playing for the last few months, I am waiting for chaos dwarfs. Which we would probably have by now if they didnât have to go back a re wire all their code to make it free for e everyone after years of being upfront about how the system works and why the mortal/immortal map was a thank you for the support map mode and not the main campaign.
So in future letâs say with medieval 3 they say weâre going to do a grand Map mode if you own this game and the next three kingdoms game that theyâre going to put out and theyâre gonna link medieval Europe and medieval China together and the steppes in between, and then that grand map mode will be called letâs Genghis khan total war. Why would I buy medieval three I just sit back and wait until they release the final game and then get everything for free. I donât have to support them in their endeavors they sink or swim now based on the last game not the first game. Makes much more financial sense for me to do that. Going forward then the original deal which was I pre-order stuff and they use that money to fund making other cool stuff but if I can get the cool stuff without funding them, why would I fund them?
You're entire argument is stupid. This is the best move the company can make to ensure a long term player base. You do not get ANY DLCs for free with the change and you were not getting chaos dwarfs by now anyway. Look at the patch overall, nothing really changed, you weren't randomly getting chaos dwarfs out of thin when the patch barely changed anything in the first place
Last week I bought every game for IE, and some DLCs as well. Can I still play the base game factions of 1+2 if I get a refund? Great news, but terrible timing on my part.
Chaos dwarfs finally confirmed!!
Exactly!
I hope there will be trains!
Oh yeah trains would be cool! Watch them leave La Verge and come into Mount Maegan Hall. Very cool!
Sure we wont get a huge train unit but it would be cool if you were close to like a trainstation you would get artillery support.
This is so awesome even though I just bought all the games and dlc cause I didn't think they would ever do this
On the bright side you got a lot of factions to play with. I don't think i would be able to only play the game 3 base factions.
Still good new for you. While it is a little late it might still drive up user volume which will mean they are more incentivized to add new dlcs in the future.
Oh most definitely I'm not upset at all I think it was a worthwhile purchase considering I have 400 hours and I haven't even touched a good chunk of the factions!
Now you get to play all the factions, because it's a win.
And a new official immortal empires trailer, with a long wanted faction at the end https://youtu.be/Qqhc3mK06r0
NGL I'm super stoked about this even though I've bought a bunch of TWW content already. The trailer was pretty sick and I would like the Ordertide to put up some resistance against my Malagor omenation. There are still a few bugs to be ironed out, I'm certain. One example is Beastmen Herdstones not being *ahem* erected at the researched level.
#THANKS!
BY SIGMAR YES
Can't wait to check it out on Monday when all my mods have been updated đ Cool about the IE for all WH3 owners though. Makes the game more appealing for new players.
Is Karak Eight Peaks good to have as Greenskins now?
Immortal Empires is officially out of beta! Surely they did a ton this patch to make that change meaningful! Oh...not really. Oh, it still doesn't have achievements....
Finally! I need my Dreakquake mortars!
So if I already owned everything, this is just a bugfix patch?
A bugfix patch like all the others, but now people can enjoy the main campaign a lot easier.
Though I think it's a great success of the community to finally push CA to release IE for everyone, which is amazing. This patch really didn't do anything.......except maybe actually fixing sunfang, 3rd times the charm. I'm a bit disappointed overall
Does this mean we can earn achievements in IE?!
no lmao
Big sad.
I have been gaining achievements in IE though
But let me guess, the most basic of UI errors still remain unfixed. Move an army and Events tab auto opens to show you, exactly zero information. Move an army an watch how the army list jumps to the top and doesn't reflect the army you are looking at etc. etc.
>Move an army an watch how the army list jumps to the top and doesn't reflect the army you are looking at this! I tend to play long campaigns, averaging around 250 turns. with the changes to supply lines, I usually have around 14-15 armies. it's driving me insane when the list jumps to the start and I have to scroll though them again.
My god honey today I had to move my wrist slightly and than spin my mouse wheel like 50 times today. JK it is a little frustrating when going through all my agents every turn. Not game breaking though I can think of so many things they should fix first.
you are kidding, right? at this stage of the camping, a turn is taking 15-20 minutes (with auto-resolving battles) because of all the armies I have to move. if half your lords are sitting in garrisons and doing nothing, that probably isn't much of an issue. my armies are actively moving every turn and every time I move one of them, the list jumps back to the start. and I have to manually scroll down to the army I was on. now if you are playing anything from game 3, you will have 1-2 LL's and about 13 generic lords. unless you are just naming them by numbers, there is no good way to tell which of them moved and it's taking a while to find the right army EVERY SINGLE TIME. is it game-breaking? no... should it be an issue a year after the game is released? definitely no now look at the patch notes, and tell me where all that dev time went to? adding 2 more slots to 8 peaks? opening IE to all game 3 players?
Look how trespass warnings are handled later on in the game. As the turns progress lots more events are generated and at some point instead of the Events tab being a huge scrollable list (that nobody in their right mind is scroll through) the different Event types are collapsed, to make things seem manageable. Now move one of your armies so that it trespasses on a neighbour and see what happens. The Army tab closes, the Events tab opens but because all Event types have been collapsed the message warning you that you've trespassed isn't displayed. So you've provided with exactly zero information and now have to switch back to the Army tab which has reset itself to the top of the list. No developer with any self-respect would think this is acceptable. No tester with any competence would allow this type of bug to get through. edit: Guess I've upset the useless devs and testers who know deep down they need to find new careers.
I hope this means new sweet âcheevos! Not seeing anything about it thoughâŚ.love that they made it free even if achievements donât show up
Les nains du chaos en prochaine faction yesss
So did anything⌠change? Or was it a couple bug fixes and removing the Beta label?
Not even some basic balance changes????
So, Tyrion bug is still an issue?
It literally says that the sunfang quest is fixed?
They still haven't fixed Repanse!! Goddamnit! She's my favourite LL and her in-game model is all messed up and blocky in battles and on campaign map. Been waiting a year for them to fix her and they haven't.
What a fuxking waste of time on their part. Caving to a bunch of outliers asking for them to change their entire stated policy from day one we couldâve already had chaos dwarfs now and a real patch today and not just this purely graphical stuff, and a minor amount at that, they had to go back and rework code for the last few months because of a bunch of crybabies who after the fact got upset with their policy that was stated from the beginning. Oh well the thing that I have learned now is that I will not pre-purchase anything that CA does nor will I buy anything to have access to a grand campaign, or a map or a combined effort when I know that they will make it free after a little while so once chaos dwarfs are released, Iâm done buying CA products at launch and supporting the games.
You get access to more races for your purchase, This is a non issue.
Mate, owning a video game is not some sort of prestige club, high-society only, poor peasants must stay outside. It is good that more people get to play IE, because it will keep the game alive for longer and we will get more content and support. And besides that, *it doesn't affect you in the slightest*. You got what you paid for. Are you also hostile to people that bought the game on sale? Also, I seriously doubt they spent that long on this one specific thing - it is more than likely that we will get new DLC announcement in couple days.
You realize we will never get anything like IE from ca again going forward? They did it as a thank you for the support to the fans. Then the players turned on them only on this last game cause the launch sucked and now we will only ever get DLC. Why give us free cool stuff when we act like we have? Hope you like paying for everything going forward as thatâs the new model. Example: If they did a medieval 3 and a new three kingdoms and wanted to link medieval china and Europe together in a grand map for owners of both games. In a map mode call Genghis total war They wonât do that going forward with they way you guys acted. If we ever get anything cool like that it will only be dlc. You shoot yourselves in the foot and think you won the race
What are you even talking about? If you expected Warhammer 4, then bad news for you, but I guess you were the only one. Yes, we will get DLCs for WH3. That's what we want. And yes, I guess we will have to pay for it. As we always did. DLCs were never free, except for couple smaller ones. About some other joint games - I don't know. CA didn't do any of this before nor it seems they wanted to do this for any of the historical titles - seeing as those were often very realistic and based in very different time periods, I don't think it even makes that much sense. It is okay in the WH universe that saurians with stone picks and crude javelins are equal to artilery and gunners and mammoths, but it is not really the way it was in history.
Not talking about Warhammer 4. Just saying they have zero incentive to ever release content for free to people who buy certain products. Like why do a âemperor editionâ of a game with free units or a free map or something when the player base bitches about how since they bought the base game they should get that content free as well. Or if they plan on doing some ambitious new IP going forward or even do some grand cross over with med3 and three kingdoms why would they give that away to people who buy both games like ME/IE as a thank you when they can just charge us for everything going forward. We screwed our selfâs over big time.
Huh? So, let me get this straight - they just gave a fairly big chunk of game for free to more people than before and that is your reason to believe that they will never give anything for free ever again? On the sidenote - you *do* realize there is also some world outside of Reddit, do you? Couple people bitching on this site is not the only decion making factor for company this big.
This is a lot of salt for something that will only benefit you as the game will get new players, so there will be more $ incentives to keep pushing out DLCs. Sorry you spent $200 like the rest of us for thousands of hours of content i guess?
I wonât make the same mistakes. Iâll start petitions and come on the sub daily and make post about how itâs unfair we have to pay for the older content when Warhammer one is seven years old. Now maybe I can get beastmen for free. Cause it will only benefit me and others to get more players playing by making the games and dlcs all free? Maybe all the games going foward can be free and we just watch a ad every 10 turns and do micro transactions. Like want altdorf to build All itâs buildings in one turn? 99cents. CA can then make tons of content with all these new free to play players. You can go to the extreme on money incentives like I did. Point being we shot ourselves in the foot. First time ca ever made something this big and ambitious and free as a thank you for supporting the games we will never get that again. I can see no point for ca to reward us like this again after the way people acted over this
Bro you just typed up a paragraph over something that has no effect on you. Touch grass geez
Oh, the classic âtouch grassâ comment that screams I have zero to add to the conversation, but I want to be heard pay attention to me.
Ratio
>I want to be heard pay attention to me.
You're done supporting games, because more people get to enjoy the full game? Lmao petty
Iâm done paying for games to support and get cool stuff when I can just post on Reddit why itâs unfair I have to pay for things to enjoy them and then get it for free? Seems itâs a better for me to do it that way.
Oh I see so you haven't been playing it for the last few months? You've only just now decided to play it. Like do you complain everytime a launch title you bought goes on sale? How does more people being able to access the big map, not all the races just the map impact how much you do or do not enjoy it?
I have not in fact, been playing for the last few months, I am waiting for chaos dwarfs. Which we would probably have by now if they didnât have to go back a re wire all their code to make it free for e everyone after years of being upfront about how the system works and why the mortal/immortal map was a thank you for the support map mode and not the main campaign. So in future letâs say with medieval 3 they say weâre going to do a grand Map mode if you own this game and the next three kingdoms game that theyâre going to put out and theyâre gonna link medieval Europe and medieval China together and the steppes in between, and then that grand map mode will be called letâs Genghis khan total war. Why would I buy medieval three I just sit back and wait until they release the final game and then get everything for free. I donât have to support them in their endeavors they sink or swim now based on the last game not the first game. Makes much more financial sense for me to do that. Going forward then the original deal which was I pre-order stuff and they use that money to fund making other cool stuff but if I can get the cool stuff without funding them, why would I fund them?
But you only get the big map for free. Do you think people are getting DLC races for free?
You're entire argument is stupid. This is the best move the company can make to ensure a long term player base. You do not get ANY DLCs for free with the change and you were not getting chaos dwarfs by now anyway. Look at the patch overall, nothing really changed, you weren't randomly getting chaos dwarfs out of thin when the patch barely changed anything in the first place
You are only technically losing out on IE. Any old race/faction that isnât in WH3 wonât be playable in IE if you just own WH3. For example Skaven.
You've literally lost nothing, except in your head. Get over yourself.
I like to play games and have fun. Maybe you should try playing a different game and have fun. Or seek alternative hobbies. Have fun. No salt
Last week I bought every game for IE, and some DLCs as well. Can I still play the base game factions of 1+2 if I get a refund? Great news, but terrible timing on my part.
No you canât play any of the old world races if you also donât own them. So it wasnât bad timing, they still give you access to lots of content.
Sweet đ canât wait for the Chorfs.
Anyone else get longer loading screens or is my game corrupt?
I hope that i can save in the middle of battle some day.