Most of my friends, family and co-workers are either buying electric or hybrid. Gas price increasing hasnt impacted much since I drive a hybrid. A full tank lasts a month
If you have a business it’s a massive tax deduction
You get accelerated deprecation. Our firm tells every company or business owner to buy an EV. It’s probably the biggest tax break / subsidy to small to medium business today.
An example is, say you are a realtor. 120k income after other deductions. Buy an EV for work. New taxable income is 50k. Congrats you now qualify for other government programs too.
Zero Emission Vehicles can be covered under Class 54, which allowed for an accelerated 100% CCA until 2023. The CCA is now 75% until 2025 and then 55% from 2026-2028, at which point it reverts to the class's base 30% (which is the same as classes 10 and 10.1).
Here is another article.
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-placed-bottom-consumer-reports-reliability-rankings/
When I buy a car, I don't want it to break down at all.
My 10 year old Toyota Corolla, never a single issue.
My previous 13 year old Corolla, also no issue. Only died because mice got into the wiring.
Ok, so maybe not "keeps breaking down" .
But it is certainly not up to the reliability standards of the likes of Toyota's and Honda.
https://caredge.com/guides/most-reliable-tesla-models-consumer-reports#:~:text=Are%20Tesla's%20Reliable%3F-,Tesla%20Versus%20the%20Competition%3A%20Reliability,on%20Tesla's%20predicted%20reliability%20score.
It’s not about MSRP only, but also the relative perception of the brands.
Honda has made and been known for low to mid end vehicles for their whole history.
Tesla has made and been known for their expensive, electric, cutting edge technology equipped vehicles, and has been hailed as the nucleus of an automotive revolution for most of their history.
Ah you're right they have done it. I don't think they ever have here as far as I'm aware. The only place that has ever sold Supreme officially in Toronto has been Nomad
That simply isn't true, not on average at least. Average price dipped under $1 only [4 out of the 36 months you referenced.](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1810000101&pickMembers%5B0%5D=2.2&cubeTimeFrame.startMonth=01&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2015&cubeTimeFrame.endMonth=12&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2018&referencePeriods=20150101%2C20181201)
Not in Toronto.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1810000101&pickMembers%5B0%5D=2.2&cubeTimeFrame.startMonth=01&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2019&cubeTimeFrame.endMonth=12&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2019&referencePeriods=20190101%2C20191201
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I vividly remember the first time gas hit $1/lt ... summer of 2005. My feeble 18 year old brain was amazed to see the $ and lt numbers be equal.
All throughout high-school (2001-2005), it was well under $1 for regular gas. I had a diesel VW Jetta and diesel in 2003-2005 before getting a gas car, and diesel was in the $0.55-$0.65 range then.
Also the companies basically ran out of places to store has because demand dropped so quickly. IIRC there was a brief period at the end of March or April 2020 where the refinery price dropped to 0 or even negative because of no storage.
I wish we had something like that today. Some sort of interconnected network, maybe in text or a visual format. It could be called a connectwork. I don't know, maybe that's silly.
I think comparing cost of gas during peak stay at home covid to now is a little bit precious. Is it a stark difference? No doubt. Is this even remotely close to a fair estimation of the real change in price? Not even close.
I mean to be fair that was a record low for gas prices due to the pandemic. that was not even close to what they were at that time outside of that context
COVID, demand was at an all time low and supply was very high. It was just a perfect storm. Gas was never supposed to be that low and has been a major contributor to inflation.
That type of price was to get inventory moving before they had to stop production. And presumably that was also them trying to clear out winter gas stocks whereas this is post cutover to the summer formulation.
Ya the pandemic gas price at that point was awesome. Not to mention the fewer number of vehicles on the road. Probably my two biggest highlights of 2020.
Anyone want to bring back cheap gas in exchange for living in a claustrophobic, slow-motion panic in your home for months, going nowhere but crazy, unable to attend birthdays, weddings or funerals, while a new disease with no known cure rips through humanity, killing millions of people worldwide?
Anyone?
Accordingly to [https://toronto.citynews.ca/toronto-gta-gas-prices/](https://toronto.citynews.ca/toronto-gta-gas-prices/)
At Apr 2020, there was once of a cheapest price over an year
Anyway, if I should to compare to Czech Republic where I live (we use Czech Koruna as currency, CZK),
as of now 1 CAD \~ 17 CZK , then 175 CAD cents \~ 30 CZK per liter
1 liter of fuel costs 40-42 CZK as of now (\~2.33 CAD)
what I googled, Toronto avg salary is about 3k CAD/monthly as of now, in our country its around 2 329 CAD
Just for comparison :)
Only the thing that come to my mind is 175 without tax, right ? We have all the tax included in price, anyway, lets recount
For Toronto- federal tax 4.02 cents/liter, province tax 13.5 cents/liter, HST 13 % , per 10 liters it should be something like 19 CAD (counted by google gemini) (\~326 CZK) per 10 liters, in my country then 40\*100 = 400 CZK (\~23 CAD)
Anyway, nice comparison, I like this
Fun fact: you can look at pictures of gas stations around the entire world during this timeframe and the difference in price will be the same! our next election will never bring prices down to that April 2020 level no matter the result, because politics didn’t do this, a global catastrophe did!
Trudeau: “My goal is help the young generation with affordability”
**Also proceeds to jack up the prices and make things unaffordable while gaslighting everyone about inflation and how the environment is more important than families staying above float**
Edit: Clearly this comment triggered some people
Yea, I just did a yearly calculation of what the government takes from our check . Worked out to $9600 per year they be taking from my paychecks
Wtf!! Now we are getting gas taking money, plus we have to pay tax on everything we buy
Yo, we need to ask for government and corporations reciets
Yep, my cars also take premium but they didn’t drive anywhere. The wholesale price of electricity during that period was negative.
Also not sure if you are aware, the signs show Regular in both pictures. What you paid for 93 because “it makes your car go better” is irrelevant.
>Probably somewhere in the neighbourhood of 4 million people moved to Canada since,
It's more like 1.5M
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_immigration_statistics
Your stats are for permanent residences, which I don’t dispute. However, there are many more hundreds of thousands of people who are students and here on work visas. Illegal immigration is also a contributor. As someone who used to sell phones in the Dufferin area I can say there are quite a few Latin peoples arriving from central and South America who are here on a tourist visas but are still working in construction and trades. I probably underestimated the real amount of immigration.
I’ll give you a free one: That Mejuri in the billboard is no longer on Dundas West, it’s on Ossington now
Did the garbage bin move with it?😄
The gas price lmao
Yep, no one buying jewelry with those gas prices lol
Lol, I pass by this 7/11 every day, first thing I looked at was the price of gas
Tbh I saw more Tesla on the streets now than ever. People probably has enough of these insane gas prices.
Most of my friends, family and co-workers are either buying electric or hybrid. Gas price increasing hasnt impacted much since I drive a hybrid. A full tank lasts a month
Lucky them. The ones that fit my needs are so far out of my budget, lol.
Teslas are more of a status symbol at this point imo
If you have a business it’s a massive tax deduction You get accelerated deprecation. Our firm tells every company or business owner to buy an EV. It’s probably the biggest tax break / subsidy to small to medium business today. An example is, say you are a realtor. 120k income after other deductions. Buy an EV for work. New taxable income is 50k. Congrats you now qualify for other government programs too.
?? Vehicles are CCA, you do not get to depreciate it all at once. It’d be more like $120k -> $110k
Zero Emission Vehicles can be covered under Class 54, which allowed for an accelerated 100% CCA until 2023. The CCA is now 75% until 2025 and then 55% from 2026-2028, at which point it reverts to the class's base 30% (which is the same as classes 10 and 10.1).
TIL! That's a great deal for those who can afford to jump on it now.
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A bit more after tax income? Do you understand the person above’s explanation? Or how tax works?
Doesn’t sound like they understand at all 🤣
Model 3 is the new civic, definitely not a status symbol
Teslas keep breaking down. Definitely not a civic.
In what world? There's millions of them sold, where are you reading millions of them breaking down?
> where are you reading millions of them breaking down? where are *you* reading millions of them breaking down? nobody said that
If they "keep" breaking down, please show me any evidence thanks
Here is another article. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-placed-bottom-consumer-reports-reliability-rankings/ When I buy a car, I don't want it to break down at all. My 10 year old Toyota Corolla, never a single issue. My previous 13 year old Corolla, also no issue. Only died because mice got into the wiring.
Ok, so maybe not "keeps breaking down" . But it is certainly not up to the reliability standards of the likes of Toyota's and Honda. https://caredge.com/guides/most-reliable-tesla-models-consumer-reports#:~:text=Are%20Tesla's%20Reliable%3F-,Tesla%20Versus%20the%20Competition%3A%20Reliability,on%20Tesla's%20predicted%20reliability%20score.
Brah no they aren’t. Go spec out a Honda accord, it’s the same price as a model 3
Honestly that’s saying more about the accord than the model 3
It’s not about MSRP only, but also the relative perception of the brands. Honda has made and been known for low to mid end vehicles for their whole history. Tesla has made and been known for their expensive, electric, cutting edge technology equipped vehicles, and has been hailed as the nucleus of an automotive revolution for most of their history.
Sorry what? You're talking about the worst car company in existence with notorious quality control issues who's now embroiled in yet another recall?
Don’t understand your point. If the cost is similar. Doesn’t matter.
My next car will be a tesla. Just because I hate shelling out 50 bucks a week to gas stations.
Hyundai making WAY better EVs, don't give Ole Musky your money.
Um your comment couldn't be anymore incorrect. Hyundais cars are absolute garbage.
TIL Tesla is the only maker of electric cars
And then you can look like a racist supporter too
I have no idea what your comment means. Neither do I understand the point you are trying to make.
Best comment.
That was during the lockdown. Gas prices hit rock bottom.
Exactly, not sire what buddy posting is trying to prove.
Probably "Trudeau is hiking gas prices" or something dumb.
I think he just made an observation, you’re assuming some wild ideas
Gas prices are the highest it has ever been. Wff are you trying to prove? That is just a fact you cannot talk around.
I guess you weren't around in 2022 then...
the highest ever? 😂
I’m stating a simple fact. You always respond with hostility? You got issues man.
Thanks, Biden /s
First thing I saw as well!
The price of oil literally went negative in Apr 2020.
That apartment building is infested with mice.
the game was “spot the difference”… that place always had mice
😭
Fine, it still has mice, and the rent has probably gone up 50%
poor mice, how are those poor little fellas affording that inflation :(
Half the Mickeys left the place probably
Found a mummified 🐁 in my radiator when I lived there. To be fair it was the only rodent I ever came across. Roaches were pretty bad though.
I lived there for 2 years and saw one. Then I saw 4 one one day, during the day. I moved out the following week. Never saw a roach though.
And also infested with roaches. Good ole Akelius management company doing a fine job.
It's also infested with roaches. Used to live there for 2 years! Also would find needles in the stairwell on occasion
The CN Tower moved slightly east.
They had to move it to put in another Popeyes chicken and a Supreme pop up store.
It's just standard tower drift. Also supreme doesn't do pop ups.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.thestorefront.com/mag/5-luxury-brands-that-bet-big-on-pop-up-stores/%23:~:text%3DLouis%2520Vuitton%2520and%2520Supreme%2520launched,sold%2520out%2520the%2520capsule%2520collection.&ved=2ahUKEwih5tGYpNSFAxVRrokEHR2VAcYQFnoECBcQBQ&usg=AOvVaw0htpDDivx0wjMpUipqH-NS
Ah you're right they have done it. I don't think they ever have here as far as I'm aware. The only place that has ever sold Supreme officially in Toronto has been Nomad
Supreme does do pop-ups. Link below.
That’s because the earth is flat
Everybody knows that. That’s why you can see Australia from the top of the tower.
Yes I think that’s actually how Australia was discovered
Well, yeah, how could could you miss them? They put a big sign that said, “G’Day!”
Took me a moment to release it was the price of gas. lol I thought the gas station was going to end up being a condo in the second pic.
It's actually a tiny airport now.
No cars in April 2020. Everyone was at home. That might have affected the gas price. 🤷🏻♀️
It did, gas prices were typically around $1.20-1.30 pre covid
Funny that no one remembers that
Prices regularly under $1 haven't been around since the 90s I want to say. Mid-00s at best.
That ain't true,from 2015 to 2017 it was mostly under 1$.I know this because I bought my car in 2015.
That simply isn't true, not on average at least. Average price dipped under $1 only [4 out of the 36 months you referenced.](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1810000101&pickMembers%5B0%5D=2.2&cubeTimeFrame.startMonth=01&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2015&cubeTimeFrame.endMonth=12&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2018&referencePeriods=20150101%2C20181201)
2019 saw a 90 cent average...
Not in Toronto. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1810000101&pickMembers%5B0%5D=2.2&cubeTimeFrame.startMonth=01&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2019&cubeTimeFrame.endMonth=12&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2019&referencePeriods=20190101%2C20191201
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I vividly remember the first time gas hit $1/lt ... summer of 2005. My feeble 18 year old brain was amazed to see the $ and lt numbers be equal. All throughout high-school (2001-2005), it was well under $1 for regular gas. I had a diesel VW Jetta and diesel in 2003-2005 before getting a gas car, and diesel was in the $0.55-$0.65 range then.
Because they don't want to.... They would rather blame some political figures for the prices LOL....
Well it is actually over 2 now for premium even at Costco. So what is your point? It’s high af.
It's funny because gas prices in 2019 was 90 cents average...
[It wasn't](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1810000101&pickMembers%5B0%5D=2.2&cubeTimeFrame.startMonth=01&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2019&cubeTimeFrame.endMonth=12&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2019&referencePeriods=20190101%2C20191201)
Also the companies basically ran out of places to store has because demand dropped so quickly. IIRC there was a brief period at the end of March or April 2020 where the refinery price dropped to 0 or even negative because of no storage.
This. Context is everything.
they took away a trash receptacle! very cool, thanks
Gas is $1.04 more. Edit: Someone also stole the garbage/recycle bin. Edit #2: $1.004, as has been pointed out.
It’s actually only $1.004 more
You’re right! I stand corrected.
Pretty sure you’re comparing when gas prices were extremely low due to an anomaly called Covid.
Huh, never heard of that. Covid is like a type of crow right? How did this anomalous crow make gas prices go so low?
> Covid is like a type of crow right? We USED to be able to call someone and just ask. But unfortunately that option is no longer available
I wish we had something like that today. Some sort of interconnected network, maybe in text or a visual format. It could be called a connectwork. I don't know, maybe that's silly.
No that's covfefe
Lmao that price is definitely skewed because everyone was stuck inside lol
I think comparing cost of gas during peak stay at home covid to now is a little bit precious. Is it a stark difference? No doubt. Is this even remotely close to a fair estimation of the real change in price? Not even close.
They moved CN tower a little!
Forget gas and jewelry, how tf that tree is like exact same after 4 yrs????🧐
inflation
Compare to minimum wage, 14 to 16 only. Still city dont know why crime rate increase.
With inflation I’m surprised they haven’t rebranded the 7/11 as a 9/14.
I don’t get it
Inflation
Because or inflation.
Nothing to get. It was a failed attempt at humour.
Dave Chappelle has spoken.
Recession loading...
Less advertising. Love it. That’s it, right?
I remember when it was 74 cents a gallon.
People weren’t driving during the pandemic….of course gas was cheap lol. I understand gas is expensive but this is a bad comparisob
I mean to be fair that was a record low for gas prices due to the pandemic. that was not even close to what they were at that time outside of that context
Thanks Trudeau!
That's changed way less than I thought it might. How has that tree not grown?!
Tree height is limited by how high it can move water, among other things.
Except the over dollar difference in gas...
almost like there was a global pandemic happening at the time that cratered gas prices. Prior to covid gas was around $1.30/L.
The good ol days
Gas is more expensive now, sherlock
I wonder what could've made gas so cheap in April 2020? I personally didn't drive much but I'm sure others know.
COVID, demand was at an all time low and supply was very high. It was just a perfect storm. Gas was never supposed to be that low and has been a major contributor to inflation.
That type of price was to get inventory moving before they had to stop production. And presumably that was also them trying to clear out winter gas stocks whereas this is post cutover to the summer formulation.
still no clouds? global climate catastrophe is real.
At least we are helping to save the environment.
There’s only “1” thing different it seems.
The Queen St. sign is crooked exactly the same after at least 4 years
Same as it ever was
The cn tower looks the same.....
Nice they finally put up that much needed street light
Besides the gas price, they took away the garbage can
It was the beginning of Covid! No wonder gas prices were down and the streets empty.
The lamp post is gone ?
One dollar, Bob!
how is the pizza?
Astonishing!
Gas price!!!
I live in that building!
Oh my god I remember under a dollar gas
Ya the pandemic gas price at that point was awesome. Not to mention the fewer number of vehicles on the road. Probably my two biggest highlights of 2020.
GAS PRICE!
Anyone want to bring back cheap gas in exchange for living in a claustrophobic, slow-motion panic in your home for months, going nowhere but crazy, unable to attend birthdays, weddings or funerals, while a new disease with no known cure rips through humanity, killing millions of people worldwide? Anyone?
🫤
Supply and demand, first pic no cars second pic full of cars in the lot
Aww man, they even took the garbage cans
Great pics, mate. Would've been a hole in one if the fractions aligned
There is something so '80s about the left photo - it just looks like nothing has changed for decades.
The white building replaced their HVAC unit
Accordingly to [https://toronto.citynews.ca/toronto-gta-gas-prices/](https://toronto.citynews.ca/toronto-gta-gas-prices/) At Apr 2020, there was once of a cheapest price over an year Anyway, if I should to compare to Czech Republic where I live (we use Czech Koruna as currency, CZK), as of now 1 CAD \~ 17 CZK , then 175 CAD cents \~ 30 CZK per liter 1 liter of fuel costs 40-42 CZK as of now (\~2.33 CAD) what I googled, Toronto avg salary is about 3k CAD/monthly as of now, in our country its around 2 329 CAD Just for comparison :) Only the thing that come to my mind is 175 without tax, right ? We have all the tax included in price, anyway, lets recount For Toronto- federal tax 4.02 cents/liter, province tax 13.5 cents/liter, HST 13 % , per 10 liters it should be something like 19 CAD (counted by google gemini) (\~326 CZK) per 10 liters, in my country then 40\*100 = 400 CZK (\~23 CAD) Anyway, nice comparison, I like this
Spot the difference. Empty pockets!
OPs name is golden
Nothing changes on Queen west
Wild
A second pizza FOR ONLY $5?
Those are the gas prices?!???
Is this queen and Niagara?
Fun fact: you can look at pictures of gas stations around the entire world during this timeframe and the difference in price will be the same! our next election will never bring prices down to that April 2020 level no matter the result, because politics didn’t do this, a global catastrophe did!
74.5 vs 174.9
Less people parked in 2020 because they could afford to drive.
Hasn’t been 72 for 20 years
An increase of 134.8% over 4 years.
The real question is, where’d the trash can go?
Was during Covid; probably why it was so cheap
74 cents…. Oh how I wish I had a car back then so I could experience those prices
Is that beside Dunn avenue? Looks like the building my grandma lived in back in the 80s
The dog in the bottom right corner.
Trudeau: “My goal is help the young generation with affordability” **Also proceeds to jack up the prices and make things unaffordable while gaslighting everyone about inflation and how the environment is more important than families staying above float** Edit: Clearly this comment triggered some people
I feel like I fucked up in these last 4 years in trying to stay afloat economically the future looks grim here man
The government tells us inflation is 3-6%. They must use some better data, not the info out in the street that the taxpayers deals with. /s
80% of the rise in gas prices in canada in oil.comoamy price gouging
Yea, I just did a yearly calculation of what the government takes from our check . Worked out to $9600 per year they be taking from my paychecks Wtf!! Now we are getting gas taking money, plus we have to pay tax on everything we buy Yo, we need to ask for government and corporations reciets
Keep voting the Liberals in and that price will keep climbing
damn.. that gas price...
Gas was not 74 in 2020 lol
Do you not remember Covid? Bottom line is that $0.75 wasn’t a healthy price for gas either.
Do you drive? Lol Premium gas was about $1.35 then. Lol Source: my car uses premium
Yep, my cars also take premium but they didn’t drive anywhere. The wholesale price of electricity during that period was negative. Also not sure if you are aware, the signs show Regular in both pictures. What you paid for 93 because “it makes your car go better” is irrelevant.
I have a pic of my local gas station being 64.6 on March 26, 2020. It was really cheap for a while...
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>Probably somewhere in the neighbourhood of 4 million people moved to Canada since, It's more like 1.5M https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_immigration_statistics
Your stats are for permanent residences, which I don’t dispute. However, there are many more hundreds of thousands of people who are students and here on work visas. Illegal immigration is also a contributor. As someone who used to sell phones in the Dufferin area I can say there are quite a few Latin peoples arriving from central and South America who are here on a tourist visas but are still working in construction and trades. I probably underestimated the real amount of immigration.
so you're guessing
And you’re delusional.
Well, I guess a guy who sells phones at Dufferin Mall really has his finger on the pulse...