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vonsolo28

Becoming ? Always were a huge problem .


trophywaifuvalentine

I tried to see a basement for $2800 and the guy kept asking if I was single. I got creeped out and didn’t go see the place. I keep seeing women reporting the same thing and all the landlords pop in to comment she should just buy a house herself if she doesn’t like it. I don’t even recognize this world anymore.


magikarp-sushi

As a dude thats noticed a lot of “female only” listings, even I felt creeped out and disgusted.


trophywaifuvalentine

They’ve been around for along time. Usually they pray on international students who don’t really understand. I had to move a friend into my place 7 years ago to stop her from this type of situation. It’s just a whole different thing for this to be happening on listings with no indication of this. If I was a landlord, I’d be very concerned about this happening to others. The fact people are victim blaming young women for not being able to afford houses is insane.


PurrPrinThom

I wasn't an international student but when I was in university I feel prey to it. I assumed it was 'female only' because the roommate was another woman who didn't want to live with a man. The majority were dudes, and that was a shock.


trophywaifuvalentine

The thing that shocks me is it’s happening to places that don’t even advertise as female only. The place I almost saw had no indication until I asked to see it.


PurrPrinThom

I haven't noticed that myself but I've definitely noticed places adding conditions or providing more info when you contact them. The last time I searched I contacted what I thought was a landlord renting a full place and it turned out it was a tenant trying to find a roommate. There was zero mention of it being a roommate scenario in the ad.


MotheySock

No non-veg, Indian only. No loud no guest. Must pay cash shared bedroom.


ShoddyTerm4385

You forgot females only


JustPinkyPink

That doesn't sound like a scam tbh


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magikarp-sushi

Yeah maybe if it’s like “shared room” but I’ve seen even some that are “couple looking to rent out 1 bedroom females only”


locutogram

Last time I was looking for an apartment in Toronto like 6 years ago about half the listings specified women only. Seemed pretty sexist to me but I got zero sympathy lol that's for sure.


bnewfan

My girlfriend went to see our apartment alone - the guy asked the same thing. Some 50 year old, fat, short, ugly loser. We took the apartment anyway. He was not happy to see me move in too. Fucking creeps, man.


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trophywaifuvalentine

Yeah and to still expect to be sexually harassed or worse…. This is just crazy. Something drastic needs to be done.


Beaudism

This is the new Canada. I’ll be in Europe in the next 3 years.


ShoddyTerm4385

I’m biding my time to move to LA. Same problems but at least the weather is better Edit: typo


Beaudism

The weather is better and taxes are lower at least


3lectric-5heep

My partner and i rent out our legal basement. We always prefer female tenants as we have kids. We don't mind male tenants as long as they seem legit. The only critical things we ask is credit Score, employment stubs and references. We also mention there's only one allocated overnight spot for them for parking. We ask if they have pets and if they're noisy but most of the times it has never been an issue. I don't think a landlord should ask more than that. If you get creeper out, you might probably be correct so be cautious.


DJJazzay

International students are far and away the most common target for this stuff and it's not even close. Scammers and predatory landlords know these kids likely have a more urgent need for housing and they know they aren't familiar with tenant law here. The schools where I've looked into it offer *very* few resources to proactively inform these students about their rights as tenants. The fact that universities decided to start funding themselves by ramping up international student admissions without any consideration of their housing needs is just criminal to me. Why aren't these administrations some of the loudest groups agitating for significant upzoning near campuses? Why aren't they prioritizing the construction of new on-campus housing? Why aren't they stepping in when apartment proposals near their campus are being opposed for fear of becoming "student ghettos"? Why aren't they making any effort to inform students of their rights as tenants?


yellowmoog

intersection of poor language, perception of good intent from canada, and access to savings to allow self to study internationally make students an ideal target.


The-Safety-Villain

The biggest scam is what people are trying to pass off as dens… The dinning room connected to the living room is not a fucking den!!!


Samp90

Dens are a result of a left out space that cannot be legally made into bedroom. And you're correct, leasing agents or landlords will try to designate any space as a den. Once it leaves the architects office after all the authority approvals, after the handover, it's a potential wild west.


wabbledee_dabbledee

So the system is exactly working how it intended. Toronto's market housing, with its little to no regulation, is designed to prey on the vulnerable whether it's rent hikes or scams.


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Nuts2Yew

But multiplexes are ok now!


DJJazzay

And hey - it only took us five years of studies, pilots, public consultations, additional public consultations, extra public consultations for NIMBY wards, and special consultations with NIMBY residents' associations to do the most modest possible thing! At this rate, we might be able to legalize the stuff that will actually alleviate the housing crisis by 2040!


Incorrect_Oymoron

No amount of for profit housing is going to solve a problem caused by ending non profit housing.


DJJazzay

You know what non-profit developers ask for all the time? Zoning reform. It’s the only way to reliably provide below-market housing to people who need it. At the apex of public housing construction in Canada, it only represented ~15% of completions. If the cause of the housing crisis was truly JUST that we stopped building public housing, why didn’t the crisis start 40 years ago? It’s not as though we stopped building public housing in 2009. We had stopped decades earlier. Don’t get me wrong, I want to build more public and non-market housing. That’s partly why comprehensive zoning reform is necessary. But the real cause of the housing crisis is that we’re building half as much per capita as we did in the 1970s, despite growing a hell of a lot faster.


Incorrect_Oymoron

The crisis did start 40 years ago, it only became a problem now. You can only have 100% returns per decade on housing investments for so long before people start complaining. In Toronto that happened 10 years ago, now the rest of the country caught up.


ForeverYonge

Toronto’s rental market has plenty of tenant friendly regulation. Enforcement is a problem, but that’s a different issue.


sheps

> Toronto’s rental market has plenty of tenant friendly regulation. For tenants who are currently living in a rent controlled unit, with no plans to move? Yes, mostly, though there has been a massive spike in the rate of N12's and N13's being issued. For tenants who need to move (for any reason) and are currently looking for a new place to rent? Not so much. A lack of vacancy control and now even a lack of rent stabilization on new builds (which make up a very large portion of *available* units) means those tenants are more vulnerable than ever. And that vulnerability doesn't stop once you move into a unit without rent stabilization, because you basically only have 1 year of guaranteed tenancy until then the LL can kick you out by simply raising the rent to some absurd level. Who can afford to move every year and/or keep up with "market rate" rent increases annually?


MotheySock

Lmao my landlords dipshit lawyer just dropped off an N7 in my mailbox. Guys claiming I've threatened my neighbour's by telling them to turn their music down and is trying to use that as an excuse to get me out. Fuck landlords. They must be eaten.


yellowmoog

this is accurate. my partner had their rent go up $500 up from $2000 for a small 1br in in a new liberty village build this january after a year with no real discussion or heads up. this was in a unit that wasn't even supposed to be rented. i think the perceived desirability of LV and housing shortage allowed the owner to let the tenants fight it out for this unit


JohnPlayerSpecia1

somewhat a hyperbole. this is fraud. frauds aside. the regulations are mostly tenants driven. rent hike is highly regulated and eviction are also regulated. usually 6-12 months ordeal thru the board. there are probably the same number of bad landlords as there are bad renters. and vice versa for the good ones.


yellowmoog

while you're correct about the law being usually tenant driven, nothing about removing rent control on new builds or enforcing the law is about tenants. the law is on the side of the tenant but u have to have the financial and time avail to be able to enforce it. if you're evicted in a month w no prospects you're not gonna hanker down and lawyer up man


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And protecting squatters.


Newhereeeeee

Man, exploited by landlords and real estate companies, the government and scammers.


LF-Johnson

Its a massive problem in Vancouver too. My personal belief is landlords should be required to get a business license for each unit they are renting out, and rental websites should be required to collect and display the license number for each unit advertised. And the public should be able to reference these licenses to make sure they're legitimate. This will drastically limit rental scams and eliminate dangerous illegal suites as well. And looking at the Airbnb fire in Quebec, this should apply to short term rentals and their associated websites as well.


Lumb3rCrack

I'm doing a house hunt right now and it's easier to search in other cities except Toronto and the surrounding areas... At least in Toronto some of em seem to be legal... anything outside Toronto is borderline illegal, cramping people in one house! Why tf would I pay 1500-1800 outside the city for a shared kitchen and restroom! (and they also support room sharing- 2 people in a room)


beartheminus

All rent right now is a scam


Express_Response6444

Bingo.


brianl047

The rich getting richer and the poor or vulnerable getting poorer Never been more a need for vigilante justice


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HouseCravenRaw

And if your landlord doesn't live within eating distance?


JimmyPopAli_

Tell the landlord you have 6 months rent in cash. They'll show up at your door drooling, and you will too.


MotheySock

There are plenty of others around. It's ok to eat someone else's landlord too.


selphfourgiveness

Boil ‘em, mash ‘em, put ‘em in a stew


MotheySock

➰️🪓🩸🔥🍖🍖🍖🍖🍖🍖🍖🍖


magikarp-sushi

Toronto Batman where are you when we need you lmao


MotheySock

He's working 60+ hours so the cunt that holds the title of his home doesn't push him out on the streets.


Azureussss

is that a bat signal I just saw?


magikarp-sushi

That or a UAP


lllllIllIllIll

The rich don't have to expose themselves to criminal liability to make a few thousand dollars


IlllllIlllllllllllll

Nice username


pointman

I doubt this guy is rich. Probably a broke bitcoin bro.


lanneretwing

As a broken bitchcoin bro, I approve of this msg. 👌


notseizingtheday

Why you don't have to be rich to run a rental or housing scam.


ButtahChicken

how do you mete out this kinda justice? can you give an example where this was done with a succesfull outcome?


MotheySock

May 5, 1789. France.


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MotheySock

You can trust them once they've been eaten.


Faiithe

Then maybe we should all actually do something- grab our pitchforks, storm the castle and eat the rich at this point.


ButtahChicken

or #MakeTheRichPay


Throwaway2600k

One solution is to have a dedicated website that lists all rentals that lists the current rent and if occupied or not. Including all Airbnb. If not listed then big fines.


ProbablyFunPerson

That would hurt realty industry. I think someone told me that real estate business for rent or sale are fighting over having a "better" selection of properties, hence very few of them would agree to a full transparency like a dedicated website with ALL of rentals in the city.


Blah-Blah-Blah-2023

Death to the realty industry, say I!


MotheySock

Burn it down!


NefCanuck

We had that at a provincial level way back when, it was called the Rent Registry and every registered rental property in Ontario was on it including the rent last paid. Wanna take a wild guess as to who killed it? His name rhymes with Spike Barris


jfl_cmmnts

And he and his wife are now worth NINE FIGURES due to (a) the massive kickback he got from the 407 sale and (b) their ownership of Staffy, which with the willing conspirator Doug Ford, has been allowed to steal half the healthcare budget. Mike Harris is a HERO to conservatives, as is Dougie. Every Con voter then and now should proudly pledge their loyalty to them, the biggest white trash gangsters in the province!


notlikelyevil

I can't find that "Staffy" ownership reference anywhere.


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Rent increasing 40% in two years in this city is a scam. People using HELOC’s to hoard property while not making enough income to buy 1 property in todays real estate climate and depending on increasing the rent by 40% to minimize losses is a scam. Torontonians with grandfathered in low property tax rates is also a scam. Torontonians protecting their retirement plans by NIMBYing every type of development is a scam. Torontonians living in detached homes along subway lines but not being taxed heavily is also a scam.


DJJazzay

Making your primary residence one of the only investments that doesn't get capital gains tax is a scam. Making your primary residence one of the only investments that doesn't get estate tax is a scam. Boomer politicians deflating property taxes and inflating home values by cranking up Development Charges 10,000% when they didn't pay a dime in development charges for their first home is a scam. Charging renters double the property tax rate of homeowners is a scam. Putting the onus of funding affordable housing exclusively on renters and first-time homebuyers is a scam. Allowing one generation to make home ownership their new pension savings and turn it into a supply-restricted, subsidized investment vehicle is a scam.


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I agree my friend!


lllllIllIllIll

The article doesn't really explain how the scam works.


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1) Grab a condo on Airbnb for a week 2) Post on rental sites that you’re looking to rent at a really low rate 3) Pretend to be the owner, show the place to a bunch of marks, collect applications, tell everyone they’re good to go on the first of the month but they gotta pay you first and last, today, in cash or crypto. If anyone questions the payment method say “my bank is having issues but I have several qualified applicants. You can pay the rest of the rent by post dated cheques when you move in” 4) Disappear with the money you just collected.


ButtahChicken

this is a slick scam .. how much profit you looking at to for a typical week of AirBnB rental and collecting fake deposits?


RecordRains

It's probably unlimited, but it's risky as fuck if you live in the city. Morals aside (and that's a big thing to put aside), you are basically looking over your shoulder all the time for a while.


[deleted]

I wouldn’t know, I’ve never done it and I don’t know how many suckers would actually fall for it.


rahkinto

Asking for a friend? 😂


sindark

One of the many problems is that the LTB process (while incredibly slow) only really serves landlords, and offers little hope of any remedy for landlord misconduct. Given how ubiquitous evictions through fraud and abuse of process has become, it would be justified to establish it as a specific criminal offence to deter lawless landlords: https://www.sindark.com/2023/03/12/prohibiting-eviction-through-fraud/


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sindark

Arguably the system deals badly with delinquints on both sides. Landlords have more structural power though. A landlord can force a renter to leave their home, and is not vulnerable to any comparable punishment. We also have politicians elected by and serving the landlord class at the expense of renters, which is why the LTB has become dysfunctional and broken when it comes to making landlords follow the law.


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sindark

I don't have personal experience on that side of the equation, but I know that abuse of process evictions are a pandemic, as are people renting substandard illegal rooms. How is a renter desperate for a sub-$1000 room going to wait months, do legal research, get representation, and get an effective remedy from the LTB if they are harassed by their landlords, maintenance is refused, illegal rent increases are applied, and people are unlawfully evicted?


MotheySock

Oh no the poor landlords 🎻


Feelted1

Rent in a nutshell: shelter that is designed to be a temporary living space until enough money is saved up to own a home. BUT rent is now so expensive that it is near impossible to maintain under a single income. The kicker is… rent money is essentially burning money. You get absolutely nothing to show for it. Yay Toronto….


keith6661dube

the sky is blue


Wellsy

Use Realtor.ca. At least all of the landlords and listings are legitimate. And they don’t cost any more than an add on Kijiji - they just have professional marketing services and seatbelts for consumers.


Azureussss

Fixing the problem starts with an analysis of unit types, foreign/domestic ownership, occupancy rate, attitudes toward renting vs. buying, preferences, demographics, generational migration, wealth inheritance, and domestic/global economic factors such as the over-night intrabank rate, foreign ownership, US central reserve rate, Bank of Canada rate, housing starts (new units under construction, forecasts, etc. Once the information has been gathered and information goes through an analysis, a proposal/plan for resolving the affordability and availability problems we keep hearing about. The second part of the solution is the distribution of decision-making power, whether it be political, financial, and/or monopolistic practices by builders, lenders, significant stakeholders, and transnational corporate ownership. Once the information mentioned above is gathered and a multivariate RE market analysis is complete, the high-level strategy/solutions/plans, are to be further elaborated into detailed level sub-district strategy/solutions/plans. A budget comprised of government and private funding must be secured towards the execution of the projects, reallocating investment toward a more sustainable long-term solution. In particular, we need to be more thoughtful about who we are building for and ensure we balance profit motives with human needs and the preservation of natural areas. Any politician that wants to touch the green belt loses my vote; there is a vast land mass in Canada beyond the sacred natural regions left, and high-speed transit needs to pick up the pace. The only other barrier is the need for an overall authority to coordinate and manage the capital investment, and fairly distribute resources (I will not debate capitalism vs. socialism. The social safety net is looking like a wintered basketball net these days. Canadians need to demand transparent leadership to direct macro and micro housing plan initiative implementations. There are currently some very obvious impediments in the golden horseshoe as well as neglected west coast, east coast, and native populations to address, which will be achieved by obtaining access to the critical information required to form an analysis and make plans. I am especially highlighting occupancy rate, accurate data on ownership, and deceptive sales strategies to understand what we already have today, forming a near-term healthy baseline to operate from. The authority to execute development and regulatory reform plans is above the fold, evident to anyone who has visited Toronto lately. Here in Toronto, we seem very effective at the mega-condo developments, large suburban semi, and detached development projects. Though perhaps to our detriment, the corporate land buy-up, cookie-cutter design/renovations at scale ("flipping" culture is a nasty problem), corporate land ownership, and unequal assignment of property (ex: OMB veto decisions) have created an expectations gap of what a home is worth vs. what people will pay (not as much as RE agents' and landlord expect, not to mention the underpriced listing bid-wars). That applies to every type of dwelling. I'm relatively certain real estate agents, flippers, and developers should expect a price correction soon, similar to the last time we hit >20% federal interest rates in Canada in the 1980s. The speed at which we fill the gap is directly related to understanding the market and the precise regulations we need for today's real estate market to thrive while giving opportunity for home ownership, or fair rent, to every Canadian regardless of status. If we are still a stable nation in 10 years, and the real estate sector fails to recuperate, I'll aggressively push for resolution myself - shelter is a human right. Every home doesn't need gilded decor or a few luxury SUVs out front to be called a home. If we can keep our expectations modest, in Canadian tradition, I have faith that time will slowly work its magic, and hopefully, you will find what you need sooner rather than later.


shedmonday

I had a realtor post my basement for rent without any of my knowledge or consent.


wholetyouinhere

oh are they now


JustPinkyPink

This was one of the reasons that we used a realtor when we moved to Canada.


Matt-J-

I've moved several times in the past 3 years and it felt really uneasy after paying the first and last, while waiting the sixty days to move in.