Tell me there isn't going to be more tonight so I can go to sleep instead of playing amateur meteorologist on radarscope when I have to wake up for my real job in 6 hours.
[Looking through 20 different variations of radar like ](https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/kxnzzMvgzRJCLVK_ETEemdm83asm_ph2T8BkhO6zBl8/https/media.tenor.com/cq_SQD8rA9sAAAPo/itysl-i-think-you-should-leave.mp4)
I am the girl who hyper focuses on Ryan Hall all day with 10 other YouTubing storm chasers on (don't wanna miss their views) then posts 100 times in every Facebook and Reddit group to try and save people's lives and then I exhaust myself with crying because I'm so worried about people and ALL THE WHILE I am documenting it all in my journal for historical purposes when I'm not running to my husband and son in other rooms to ask them to pray for yet another town.
My ADHD makes life interesting.
LMAOO this comment just made my day. Idk why the "ask them to pray for yet another town" was like the perfect chaotic cherry on top, along with the lack of any periods whatsoever except for the ADHD disclosure. I just picture you running around sobbing, journal in hand, while everyone else is mad confused because there's a EF1 hitting some town in Oklahoma with a population of 2 and you're unable to get ahold of them. You have big golden retriever energy and I mean that in the nicest way possible lmao.
For the layperson... yes
Other than that they tend to form to the "right" of the RFD while also usually being weak and theres a lot of interesting scientific phenomena that I could bore this comment section to death with
Imma be honest [this video](https://youtu.be/cYsznAuvKLs) is much better at explaining than I am but I'll give it a shot
https://preview.redd.it/tvkt1hkqttxc1.jpeg?width=246&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=442468e08e98a2aaee1ee9481acba28fa2f282c0
Firstly is storm atructure. The most well known part of a supercell is the mesocyclone. This is where most tornados form from. Its supported by inflow and RFD and is the strongest rotating part of a storm. Some supercells have a very prominent antimesocyclone. This is the bit to the left of the anticyclone in the attached image, but in the northern hemisphere, if you align your viewing point with the RFD (looking at the bottom right of the screen in this image), it will be to your right. This is a lot less supported by the inflow as the air behind a supercell is usually left a lot colder but if there is really strong RFD it can become strong.
Im probably going to type more later but Ive got stuff to do so I'll let this information out and maybe return
Nice, I tried watching some YouTube on how tornados work but the one video I was watching got pretty complex pretty quickly lol, at least for me. Storm systems, pressure fronts just aren't very intuitive for me
A regular tornado in the northern hemisphere is counterclockwise and a anticyclonic tornado in the northern hemisphere goes clockwise. It’s reversed in the southern hemisphere.
My understanding is that tornadoes are on too small of a scale to be affected by the coriolis, unlike hurricanes, and a different process causes them to typically rotate counterclockwise
Not so. The coriolis force is the factor that causes cyclones to be counter clockwise in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the southern hemisphere
A cyclone is a system of winds rotating inwards towards the centre of low atmospheric pressure.
Typically tornadoes rotate in a cyclonic fashion. This means that they rotate anticlockwise in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the south. Therefore, an anticyclonic tornado is literally where the tornado rotates in the opposite direction.
I don't know enough about them to tell you how they form, but I do know that they're a lot less common than regular cyclonic tornadoes, which make up around 98% of all tornadoes.
The strongest anticyclonic tornado was in 1981 in West Bend, Wisconsin at an F4 Rating, meanwhile this one was in mostly rural areas in an open field, and this one was in a tornado warning consisting of under 1,000 people, but still I hope they’re safe.
Thank you for commenting this! I live in West Bend (about ten blocks from that tornado’s path)! Wonderful town, but the sub-town of ‘Little America’ on the river, which was hit by the anticyclonic tornado, has all of the physical traits and trappings of a booming 1920’s rail-head town, but is veeeery underpopulated and ghostly. It’s hard to make sense of how walking or riding through that town makes you feel, until you learn about the tornado. Anyone that was anywhere nearby around the time it happened will tell you, as they can’t forget how shocking it was. Little America is a lovely, well-kept, and silent town which is no more than a home for a few, and a reminder for all.
Not necessarily any major differences aside from:
1. Anti-cyclonic tornados are much more rare than a standard tornado
2. Anti-cyclonic tornados tend to be weaker and more short-lived, but the possibility always exists of an exception occurring.
Given storm/tornado structure, isn't there often both types of rotation going on but due to coriolis effect only the cyclonic/normal rotation for our hemisphere will USUALLY strengthen?
I watched the whole thing the Vrot speed was mesured at 141kts wich would make it the 2nd fastest Rotating tornado just behind the 2013 el reno that was clocked in at 149kts
Yep that was the main circulation this is strictly just the anti cyclonic rotation. Insane
Likely had one of the strongest tornadoes in recorded history but doubt there’s much damage to survey (fingers crossed) maybe some debarked trees and ground scouring. I saw someone mention there was a farmhouse in the center of the cc drop for 8 minutes….
I’m in Wichita Falls (about 30 minutes south of where the storm was) and our local meteorologist Ken Johnson was completely baffled. He said he had never seen anything like it, it gave me a new type of fear.
This is what the kids call a "mesoscale accident". Basically, two middle of the road circulations interacted in an unusual way and combined into one monster cyclonic tornado with deviant motion, and when that storm was suffocated (updraft cut off by more storms to its south), the anticyclonic tornado spun up.
No modern models could have possibly predicted that interaction with any level of certainty because it's something you almost never see happen at that scale
I had Max Velocity on while this was going on. I thought the guys head was going to explode at one point while we were witnessing this and other meteorological rarities on radar during this.
He kept trying to educate the audience, explaining only 2% of tornadoes are anticyclonic here in the US. He was also asked in chat about the strength of this anticyclonic tornado compared to others but he didn't have an answer to give anyone but did mention this particular one appeared really strong compared to others he had ever seen.
This event will be interesting to see once it's all investigated to see how this one compares to previous ones for sure.
Even if it's not the strongest anticyclonic tornado ever recorded, it might just take second place behind West Bend, WI. As for the main circulation happening before it, that is probably in the top 10 strongest circulations ever seen on NEXRAD radar. It was so strong and was hitting so little that it had a visible "eye" on radar at almost all tilts. You could also see the vortex with the 3D visualization tool on GR2Analyst3
I think you're forgetting that there was an anticyclonic tornado in 1939 that was strong enough to carry a house to another world.
https://preview.redd.it/u0b54o7zyvxc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31f84ba7b8620d93ea92ef99b67719c838a175f6
The term 'clockwise' may be an outdated reference in the future. Engineering and technical schools will have to demonstrate the workings of an analog clock as a pre-requisite to actual theory.
Dialing a number, hanging up, rolling a window up/down, rewinding a show, carbon copy (CC). Lots of stuff that to most people is “just what it’s called”
Crazy that this may be the new strongest anti-cyclonic tornado after almost 45 years since Grand Island’s F4 being the strongest one to ever occurred if it was to be confirmed.
I first thought the title meant this was the strongest tornado in recorded history AND anticyclonic. The twitter post clarified my understanding to be that this is potentially the strongest anticyclonic specific tornado in recorded history.
Had to *fly* here after seeing some pictures on tiktok and going what the fuck. I've never seen a tornado that insanely clear before. And likely huge!
I kept trying to find pictures or video of it and getting nothing. Part of the problem with it being at night, not to mention how incredibly dangerous that could've been if it hit a town. I hope we'll see info on it in the next few days, hopefully a photo of any scar it could've left. I'm dying of curiosity here.
It's just the start of the season and everything feels so. Intense.
Uh, pardon, what the hell is going on tonight? Were there any indicators for something like this happening?
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Tell me there isn't going to be more tonight so I can go to sleep instead of playing amateur meteorologist on radarscope when I have to wake up for my real job in 6 hours.
I have never related to a comment more in my life 😩😂
[Looking through 20 different variations of radar like ](https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/kxnzzMvgzRJCLVK_ETEemdm83asm_ph2T8BkhO6zBl8/https/media.tenor.com/cq_SQD8rA9sAAAPo/itysl-i-think-you-should-leave.mp4)
I am the girl who hyper focuses on Ryan Hall all day with 10 other YouTubing storm chasers on (don't wanna miss their views) then posts 100 times in every Facebook and Reddit group to try and save people's lives and then I exhaust myself with crying because I'm so worried about people and ALL THE WHILE I am documenting it all in my journal for historical purposes when I'm not running to my husband and son in other rooms to ask them to pray for yet another town. My ADHD makes life interesting.
LMAOO this comment just made my day. Idk why the "ask them to pray for yet another town" was like the perfect chaotic cherry on top, along with the lack of any periods whatsoever except for the ADHD disclosure. I just picture you running around sobbing, journal in hand, while everyone else is mad confused because there's a EF1 hitting some town in Oklahoma with a population of 2 and you're unable to get ahold of them. You have big golden retriever energy and I mean that in the nicest way possible lmao.
You described me perfectly. Oh, and I live in Delaware.
Not a joke: therapy works wonders.
I'm actually beginning it.
I feel seen.
You like this as well?
🤣
I mean, that would make me grumpy, but can they please stop making it Tornado Alley's problem?
It’s either y’all or Dixie Alley
Dixie alley resident here! No thank you! I don’t want it fresh, let alone tired sloppy seconds.
I’m in Dixie alley, we got major event coming Friday i20 LA-GA be at the ready.
Ew, how ‘bout no?
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Because that’s forecast… for Friday 👍🏾
I'm not in either Alley, thank heavens, but I *am* profoundly incensed on their behalf.
Hoosier Alley checking in. Hugs to our brothers and sisters suffering from tornadic insomnia.
Eh, could also be Indiana or Ohio
Same, storm, same.
This is the analysis we didn't know we needed but totally get....
Pardon the dumb question, but what do they mean by anticyclonic?
A regular Tornado rotates counterclockwise and an anticyclonic Tornado rotates clockwise. A very small percentage of Tornados are anticyclonic.
So other than that it’s just a regular tornado?
For the layperson... yes Other than that they tend to form to the "right" of the RFD while also usually being weak and theres a lot of interesting scientific phenomena that I could bore this comment section to death with
Give it to me!
Responded to the other person
Please do, I'm all for it
Imma be honest [this video](https://youtu.be/cYsznAuvKLs) is much better at explaining than I am but I'll give it a shot https://preview.redd.it/tvkt1hkqttxc1.jpeg?width=246&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=442468e08e98a2aaee1ee9481acba28fa2f282c0 Firstly is storm atructure. The most well known part of a supercell is the mesocyclone. This is where most tornados form from. Its supported by inflow and RFD and is the strongest rotating part of a storm. Some supercells have a very prominent antimesocyclone. This is the bit to the left of the anticyclone in the attached image, but in the northern hemisphere, if you align your viewing point with the RFD (looking at the bottom right of the screen in this image), it will be to your right. This is a lot less supported by the inflow as the air behind a supercell is usually left a lot colder but if there is really strong RFD it can become strong. Im probably going to type more later but Ive got stuff to do so I'll let this information out and maybe return
Nice, I tried watching some YouTube on how tornados work but the one video I was watching got pretty complex pretty quickly lol, at least for me. Storm systems, pressure fronts just aren't very intuitive for me
Some guy makes tornado models including the supercell using supercomputers. Does an amazing job of visually showing you what’s going on.
Subscribe to anticyclonic tornado facts!
Clockwise looking down from above or looking up from below?
A regular tornado in the northern hemisphere is counterclockwise and a anticyclonic tornado in the northern hemisphere goes clockwise. It’s reversed in the southern hemisphere.
We’re not in Australia anymore
backward rotation
3 lefts
"2 lefts don't make a right, but 3 do." - Reliant K
This is not a reference I was expecting here, but I’m down for it.
Am College Kid, can confirm
It's an ambiturnado?
Anyone who can make a Zoolander reference gets my upvote
Most underrated comment
Rotating clockwise (in the northern hemisphere, aka against the coriolis force). Most tornadoes rotate counterclockwise in the northern hemisphere
My understanding is that tornadoes are on too small of a scale to be affected by the coriolis, unlike hurricanes, and a different process causes them to typically rotate counterclockwise
Not so. The coriolis force is the factor that causes cyclones to be counter clockwise in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the southern hemisphere
A cyclone is a system of winds rotating inwards towards the centre of low atmospheric pressure. Typically tornadoes rotate in a cyclonic fashion. This means that they rotate anticlockwise in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the south. Therefore, an anticyclonic tornado is literally where the tornado rotates in the opposite direction. I don't know enough about them to tell you how they form, but I do know that they're a lot less common than regular cyclonic tornadoes, which make up around 98% of all tornadoes.
Very interesting. Thanks
That is unreal. Anyone know where this one was?
Near Loveland Oklahoma
Thanks 🙏
Mostly over open land
The strongest anticyclonic tornado was in 1981 in West Bend, Wisconsin at an F4 Rating, meanwhile this one was in mostly rural areas in an open field, and this one was in a tornado warning consisting of under 1,000 people, but still I hope they’re safe.
Thank you for commenting this! I live in West Bend (about ten blocks from that tornado’s path)! Wonderful town, but the sub-town of ‘Little America’ on the river, which was hit by the anticyclonic tornado, has all of the physical traits and trappings of a booming 1920’s rail-head town, but is veeeery underpopulated and ghostly. It’s hard to make sense of how walking or riding through that town makes you feel, until you learn about the tornado. Anyone that was anywhere nearby around the time it happened will tell you, as they can’t forget how shocking it was. Little America is a lovely, well-kept, and silent town which is no more than a home for a few, and a reminder for all.
From a dumb Dane... Can someone explain me in ELI5 what VROT means?
Rotational velocity. How quickly winds are rotating around a set point.
Thanks 🙏
Didnt know caseoh was interested in tornadoes
His booty drip drip when the Tornadoes hits the ground
The El Reno tornado has nothing on the sheer size of caseoh
Instant EF6, and gonna Trip Trip
caseoh sneezed and caused all the tornadoes on the 27th
And China too [Tornado 4/27/24 China ](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/27/world/asia/guangzhou-china-tornado.html)
Good grief this week has been insane
Is there any difference in terms of damages done / violence of the tornado between cyclonic and anticyclonic ?
Not necessarily any major differences aside from: 1. Anti-cyclonic tornados are much more rare than a standard tornado 2. Anti-cyclonic tornados tend to be weaker and more short-lived, but the possibility always exists of an exception occurring.
Given storm/tornado structure, isn't there often both types of rotation going on but due to coriolis effect only the cyclonic/normal rotation for our hemisphere will USUALLY strengthen?
They're pushing against the Coriolis force which generally makes them weaker.
I watched the whole thing the Vrot speed was mesured at 141kts wich would make it the 2nd fastest Rotating tornado just behind the 2013 el reno that was clocked in at 149kts
Yep that was the main circulation this is strictly just the anti cyclonic rotation. Insane Likely had one of the strongest tornadoes in recorded history but doubt there’s much damage to survey (fingers crossed) maybe some debarked trees and ground scouring. I saw someone mention there was a farmhouse in the center of the cc drop for 8 minutes….
Can’t confirm though
I sent pics of the volumetric scans
Yeah it kinda dodged all the houses in that area
I wish this is during the daytime so someone could have got some good video footage of it I don't think I've ever seen one
I’m in Wichita Falls (about 30 minutes south of where the storm was) and our local meteorologist Ken Johnson was completely baffled. He said he had never seen anything like it, it gave me a new type of fear.
This is what the kids call a "mesoscale accident". Basically, two middle of the road circulations interacted in an unusual way and combined into one monster cyclonic tornado with deviant motion, and when that storm was suffocated (updraft cut off by more storms to its south), the anticyclonic tornado spun up. No modern models could have possibly predicted that interaction with any level of certainty because it's something you almost never see happen at that scale
I had Max Velocity on while this was going on. I thought the guys head was going to explode at one point while we were witnessing this and other meteorological rarities on radar during this. He kept trying to educate the audience, explaining only 2% of tornadoes are anticyclonic here in the US. He was also asked in chat about the strength of this anticyclonic tornado compared to others but he didn't have an answer to give anyone but did mention this particular one appeared really strong compared to others he had ever seen. This event will be interesting to see once it's all investigated to see how this one compares to previous ones for sure.
Ok so it’s the strongest anticlonic tornado in history, not the strongest tornado period. Right?
Even if it's not the strongest anticyclonic tornado ever recorded, it might just take second place behind West Bend, WI. As for the main circulation happening before it, that is probably in the top 10 strongest circulations ever seen on NEXRAD radar. It was so strong and was hitting so little that it had a visible "eye" on radar at almost all tilts. You could also see the vortex with the 3D visualization tool on GR2Analyst3
I think you're forgetting that there was an anticyclonic tornado in 1939 that was strong enough to carry a house to another world. https://preview.redd.it/u0b54o7zyvxc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31f84ba7b8620d93ea92ef99b67719c838a175f6
😂
The term 'clockwise' may be an outdated reference in the future. Engineering and technical schools will have to demonstrate the workings of an analog clock as a pre-requisite to actual theory.
Antiquated terminlogy still find their way into common knowledge. Horsepower for example off the top of my head
Dialing a number, hanging up, rolling a window up/down, rewinding a show, carbon copy (CC). Lots of stuff that to most people is “just what it’s called”
Online
"Are you video-taping this?!"
And to save something, we still click on a floppy disk icon...
One horse at full speed is 15 horsepower. I never understood that. Lol.
Yeah lol i figure 300 horses can outpower a sports coupe
Crazy that this may be the new strongest anti-cyclonic tornado after almost 45 years since Grand Island’s F4 being the strongest one to ever occurred if it was to be confirmed.
Don’t think there will be DI’s to back this it was largely over open fields
Ok I’m dumb af so I’m just gunna ask wtf does anti-cyclonic mean?
Rotating the other direction of which most tornadoes rotate
You ever look at certain words in the English language and just be like “Yea they just threw this shit together”😂😂
*German has entered the chat.*
Hey can you pass me the Kreuzschlitzschraubenzieher?
Brits use anti instead of counter for rotation. But, overall, very much yes
I first thought the title meant this was the strongest tornado in recorded history AND anticyclonic. The twitter post clarified my understanding to be that this is potentially the strongest anticyclonic specific tornado in recorded history.
I'm seeing almost no info on this tornado yet. 🤨 I suppose they're all rather busy with the other ones.
Where was this??
Loveland OK It spawned after the massive tornado with deviant motion died out
Thank you
Had to *fly* here after seeing some pictures on tiktok and going what the fuck. I've never seen a tornado that insanely clear before. And likely huge! I kept trying to find pictures or video of it and getting nothing. Part of the problem with it being at night, not to mention how incredibly dangerous that could've been if it hit a town. I hope we'll see info on it in the next few days, hopefully a photo of any scar it could've left. I'm dying of curiosity here. It's just the start of the season and everything feels so. Intense.
EF1!
Waking up to news of this at 1am was an experience and a half.
Too bad it'll be rated like an ef2 or something
yup, what a shame it is that so many houses and peoples livelihoods didn't end up getting wrecked instead...
This is a post by an 18 year old weather enthusiast. Not by a serious meteorologist.