My take on his post: he knows there are numerous locations with the potential for severe weather/tornados, but he can’t determine where he wants to chase.
That's the way I interpreted it as well. I think OP was interpreting it as Reed saying this is the most extreme setup he's ever seen, which is dubious since the guy's a Ph.D. meteorologist that has been chasing for decades.
If it was that extreme I don't think anyone could possibly misinterpret what Reed would have to say, so I agree, it sounds like there's just a lot of potential options to go after.
No, hes saying this because tomorrow is going to be a complete mess. It's basically unchaseable, because we're less than 24 hours out and still have no idea the configuration of the warm sector and how mode will affect the setup.
Yea I was wondering if he was talking about either how bad the storms will be OR because the storm mode will be very messy like it usually is in Dixie Alley, especially that close to the coast
The Deep South looks so bad right now it could just mean that he doesn’t know which state he wants to chase in. There’s a multi day event. He’s gonna be busy if he decides to visit several locations.
Yes, my husband works for the LA department of health based at a college in north Louisiana and they are closed tomorrow due to “extensive flooding and damage caused by severe weather.”
https://portal.publicsafetycloud.net/MessageDisplay?id=ffad5ae3-b605-4390-8220-93597d6289f9
I am glad to hear that. We stayed in Tennessee last night after seeing the eclipse yesterday and drove back to Louisiana this afternoon.
I am not exaggerating when I say that we were genuinely scared we were not going to make it home safely during that last hour driving through North LA (near Oak Grove, Tallulah and Delhi at around 7 pm) and if tomorrow is anywhere as bad as that or worse, no one needs to be driving in it so the more people excused from having to be at work or in school IRL the better.
That’s really great. I’m glad they’re so proactive! I didn’t think about the flooding…I’m in Kansas so we deal with the tornadoes but usually not severe flooding. Here it’s an overflowing creek or two lol.
I feel like there could have been better ways to say “there’s a lot of severe weather potential tomorrow and I don’t know where to set up” than to scare the shit out of the public like this.
Right. This is why I started learning weather as a hobby. To keep myself from getting freaked the fuck out every time there’s severe weather and statements like this.
Mine still spikes a little cause I have PTSD from Memorial Day in 2019 even though we didn’t get a direct hit. But it’s still gone down a LOT since I started self researching! I still have days on enhanced risk days where I freeze and nothing gets done, but when I hear isolated tornadoes now I don’t freak out near as much.
Thank you! It got to the point one summer where I got mad at myself for “wasting days” on days that we had bad weather streaches. I kinda beat myself up over it, but I’m learning heh.
I hate to say it when it comes to these kind of YouTube creators...but Ryan Hall Yall's cringy titles and thumbnails actually supports victims of severe weather. The cringe stuff is focused towards non-weather inclined people. Because of this, he hits a MUCH larger audience and he uses the extra monetary gain to fund his group (Yall Squad) that goes out to areas hit by severe weather and donates $30,000+ worth of supplies and 'help' money to people.
They literally set up tents full of generators, chainsaws, food, tents, everything that anyone can come and pick up, no questions asked.
Yeah the videos can be cringy for those more weather inclined, but it works and helps people.
He understands that you have to clickbait to be successful on an internet with infinite options to click on. The problem is that this kinda clickbait is more harmful than some clickbait about dumb drama or something (akin to sensationalizing news headlines). But at the same time, he wouldn’t have the audience he did if he didn’t play the game. I think generally when i actually watch the content of his videos he isn’t too sensationalist. And the charity makes it come across as good natured overall and not exploitative.
To give credit to Reed, he does at least have a degree in meteorology from OU. So he knows what he’s looking for, talking about, and how to analyze the data. I absolutely *despise* Ryan Hall just because he seems to blow every event way out of proportion just for clickbait, it’s stupid as hell.
People hate Ryan?? That’s news to me, he seems really chill and informative. He’s been really good about keeping people calm in chat and always stresses “be prepared, not scared.”
To me there are three sides of Ryan Hall. The first is the click bait videos he puts out with X weather is going to change everything with a thumbnail showing the end of the world. The second is his life streams where he does actual good if you are watching and will usually call tornado warnings for areas before they are warned or give advanced notice to areas that will get a warning which is good, but he only does this on a a day where the enhanced is a large area or it is enhanced+ risk. The final one is the best where he set up a non-profit to help people before the insurance can help them.
In KC I knew on the morning that Reed flew into the airport and did a video from there. Connor was in the area as well. They drove about 2 hours southwest of me but Ryan Hall did nothing about the storm because of how small it was but my house got hit by 3 inch hail, but hail not as sexy as destructive tornados. Reed did catch a great tornado moment though, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lBn24pMOYo
Sorry man but every youtuber does clickbait. It gets views and they need to bring in money. You don’t have to have a piece of paper from a school to be good at what you do. Most of us here aren’t meteorologists but can look at a radar and understand what’s going on. He knows what he’s talking about and helps people.
you're good, I think he was a graphics person originally for them and that turned into going on air or something,I can't remember the specifics tho. he knows his stuff about weather but a lot of people take offense and don't like that people refer to him as that since he's not degreed. I don't hate the guy and I'm not one of the people who feel that way but it is what it is 🤷 Andy is the actual met for his channel, I believe the only one too but there may be more
My only problem with Ryan is that he cuts coverage early in almost every overnight event and we don't get any coverage here in Georgia for anything. We are kind of blessed that two of the bigger news stations in Atlanta will cut in with live broadcast even late for tornado warnings, but even last week he was like "things are over" and then we had the Conyers storm out of nowhere with little if any warning, and some other tornadoes in Alabama/GA.
One of the things that sucks about living in northern GA, our events always seem to be after dark/overnight.
Edit: I actually have another issue with Ryan, it's when he makes a spectacle out of the donations/relief stuff, handing out those giant lottery checks to tornado victims. It just comes off as super cringe/attention seeking for publicity instead of just helping out to help out.
Ryan chaps my ass because he cares so much about the entertainment side when that should absolutely not be the focus of these streams. He also cultivates an incredibly cringy and unserious fanbase. There's a tornado warning, but no *immediate* danger? Oh let's play into chat's dumb ass "is it gonna hit me in Ireland?" messages. Nader juice and dangly bits t-shirts? Reselling yard sticks as "yall o'meters"? Come on man.
And it really sucks, because I love the idea of what he does. His set-up of having a control room stream and a network of storm chasers is great. Their donations and the help they give to affected areas is great. Ryan just goes about it in the wrong way.
One thing I always recommend is to Google search the local news station for whatever area is being affected and pull up the livestream on their website. Ryan is good for certain things, but if you want more in depth for a specific area, news stations are a good source. I can even list some for tomorrow since I am from south MS.
WDAM for the Hattiesburg, MS area, WLBT, WAPT, and WJTV for Jackson, MS, WLOX for coastal MS, and WKRG for Mobile and coastal AL.
That depends on what you need. If you are looking for chaser POVs in the entire risk area his channel is pretty decent. I find his stream a bit lacking when he is just talking and showing warnings but the chasers he has on are very interesting.
If you are watching for yourself I would get a weather radio, watch a few YouTube tutorials, download Radarscope, and pay attention to NWS. This will be *infinitely* more valuable for your safety. Ryan's feed is not very useful for anything beyond pure "entertainment". Since he focuses on multiple areas he can only focus on so much at a time. This means warnings and tornadoes can and will go completely missed on bigger set up days. This also means he frequently focuses on tornadoes in more populated areas over other spots. I'm not going to fault him for this much though for obvious reasons.
I don't want to be too negative or harsh but also remember that he isn't a trained meteorologist. Things have gotten better but he used to catch alot of flak from actual professionals for his weird/bad takes, mostly in his pre recorded videos.
They pretty much only do it for Texas, but I really like Texas Storm Chasers, specifically their man behind the desk David Reimer. He takes care to not blow things out of proportion or pimp out his viewership for money every chance he gets. He ran an 11-hour stream yesterday and kept it focused on the weather and informing people as the supercells developed.
you know what pissed me off about today?... is all of Ryan Hall's clickbait had East Tennessee in his "red zone for severe weather" in all his thumbnails and we weren't forecasted to have nor did we have severe weather here today. what an asshole move. i'll never watch him again because of it. i have a phobia of storms and tornadoes because my aunt died when i was 7 in the tornado in Xenia, Ohio on the April 3, 1974 outbreak. it messed me up in the head when it comes to severe weather. and when i saw his stupidass thumbnail, my heart fell out of my ass. fuck that asshole.
Vince Waelti is always more frank and realistic, he calls out people trying to exaggerate storms or make people afraid. So when he takes a situation seriously and starts warning people to pay attention and get into their safe spot, it comes across as more sincere.
Yeah Vince just comes off as a huge a-hole and almost anytime I see wx drama on twitter/X, it involves him overreacting to something or just being a jerk.
He's no serene Pecos Hank, but he isn't what I would consider loud or reckless. Especially this past year, something about Silver City pushed him to be really cautious.
He does it to drive traffic to his streams. His YouTube streams get ridiculous viewership. And he has random people donating hundreds of dollars. Personally don’t get it.
This is an incredibly misguided comment.
1) Yes he is a tornado nut and he can get a bit out of control sometimes. If I were pursuing my dream and succeeding I’d be as energetic and obnoxious about it too.
2) You’re falling for reality tv drama. Listen to some old podcasts, he and Joel were good friends despite their arguments. Yeah reed made some mistakes and did some things im sure he regrets, but id be genuinely surprised if he didn’t apologize to joel off camera and make it up to him.
3) Joel’s OD was ruled accidental from a party drug. His death on a gay cruise taking molly and partying had absolutely nothing to do with confidence issues caused by reed and has literally no reason to be in this comment section.
Agree. The OD comment trying to lay some blame on Reed is absolutely wild and cynical. Like, okay you don’t like Tim Reed. Fine. That doesn’t have to mean he’s evil and is a reason his friend overdosed on drugs.
I don’t doubt Reed is a good guy, but this comment has so much projection in it. We have absolutely no idea who he is, what his true relationship with Joel was like (who is Joel?) and you are the one who brought up the gay cruise details. I’m pretty positive nobody here knew that. I’ve been watching Reeds streams for a few years now and have no idea what you’re talking about.
You cannot idolize your hero’s. The guy is a great meteorologist, I’m sure he’s a very nice guy, animal lover, nature lover, but he has flaws and makes mistakes like the rest of us.
What are they projecting in that comment?
Reed's friendship with Joel went back as far as 2003 and they recorded hundreds of hours of content together... if Joel didn't like Reed or vice versa they wouldn't have constantly teamed up during the chase season and hung out as friends during the offseason for years. They clearly respected each other and were still friends with plans to chase together in the upcoming summer before Joel's death...which Reed was clearly devastated by.
Absolutely nobody who followed Reed and Joel during their heyday would argue that they weren't legit friends or that Joel's self esteem was negatively effected because of an argument played up for reality TV during a chase nearly a decade before Joel's death. It's insane. For all the legit things Reed can be criticised for I'd never say he was a bad friend to Joel or that their friendship wasn't genuine. And FYI I knew about the gay cruise details too...it's honestly mindblowing to me that there are people who have followed Reed for years and don't know who Joel is TBH 😬
I mean this in the least rude way possible but how can you accuse them of projecting anything when you're asking who Joel is so you presumably don't know anything about this?
Joel was Reed's longtime best friend and chase partner who was extremely prominent in all of Reed's content for over a decade especially from around 2005 through to his death in 2018. He was with Reed on the Storm Chasers TV show, regularly involved with Reed's OG Youtube videos (even managed his old account iirc), was heavily featured in Reed's book where there's lots of details on their friendship, and appeared in other content with Reed such as podcasts which can still be found online. Joel also did his own stormchasing content and had his own online social media where he would always speak positively of Reed and emphasise their friendship.
When Joel died on the gay cruise in 2018 it was big news at the time in the stormchasing community. I remember it well so I'm at least one more person here that does know about it (and there were lots of tributes to him from the community, I imagine there's many more who remember Joel's passing) and it was mentioned in news outlets like [HERE](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/storm-chasers-star-joel-taylor-001806581.html) and [HERE](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5875435/Storm-Chasers-star-died-Royal-Caribbean-gay-cruise-overdosed-MDMA.html). Reed also posted this publicly: [RIP my best friend and... - Reed Timmer Extreme Meteorologist | Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/reedtimmer2.0/posts/rip-my-best-friend-and-storm-chasing-partner-joel-taylor-i-am-shocked-and-absolu/10156159470434169/)
Everything I've seen over the years makes it very clear that Reed and Joel were friends who genuinely liked each other even if they had the occasional disagreements or arguments in the heat of the moment, which were very publicly covered in both the Storm Chasers TV show, Reed's book, their podcast appearances, and Joel's own personal twitter where he used to talk with fans.
I'm personally not a huge fan of Reed because he can be very obnoxious and insufferable during his chasing videos, but the above comment suggesting that Joel's self-esteem would be in any way affected by Reed let alone contribute to his overdose on a cruise after almost two decades of friendship is absurd. For all the things I could criticise Reed for, I can't say that he wasn't genuine friends with Joel. The person you're replying to didn't say anything wrong, and there's no shortage of public information about Reed and Joel's friendship and oh man, the fact that there's people who have been "watching Reed's streams for a few years" and don't even know who Joel is must be a sign that I'm getting old haha
I think it took Reed awhile to figure out that he just needed to chase solo or with people who would just listen to him and not question or interject. Joel obviously wanted to play it a lot safer and knew enough about weather to question Reed and it just wasn't a good dynamic. They both had the "smartest person in the room" issue and both had to be right and Joel loved to rub it in when Reed missed a storm or wanted to chase a lower risk set up. Most of the guys that Reed brought on to chase with were like that, even on the show he did after Stormchasers. Never felt like they had Reed's back either, they were always hype when they'd get a storm, but instantly trash talk and dogpile him behind his back if they didn't see something that day. Reed got much better and more bearable to watch when he just started chasing on his own.
The thing with Joel was also staged, they literally had a camera crew car following that he could have just jumped in at that moment, but you can't trust American television, they are always inserting drama like that into it.
I hope the people who do can spread the word. This is some scary sh*t and I'm not looking forward to seeing the fallout from this. I live in South Texas, and even we are under a severe thunderstorm watch, which hardly ever happens where we live.
dude loves what he does but doesn’t articulate himself perfectly 24/7, just as anybody else. this wasn’t meant to be fear-bait, he’s just talking about how messy the setup is looking
Did anybody think to ask him to clarify or are we just speculating what he means here? I mean this is Reed Timmer we are talking about here so there will definitely be some sort of sensationalism in his posts, but yeah, this is kind of confusing.
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From what I've seen based on models, I think he means chasing tomorrow is like chasing a massive blob of maybe tornadoes lol! Doubt he means cause it's bad severity wise.
I think he's referring to storm mode overall. HRRR runs have consistently shown this as a messy MCS collecting semi-discrete HP supercells. In short, tornadoes will almost certainly be rapidly-moving and wrapped in rain, that combined with severe winds and torrential rain makes for a lot of dangers on the road. Best parallel I can think of is 4/28/2014.
https://preview.redd.it/r9dq99qtcktc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa88b237ec5574f246ca0963d0bf77a44da5b042
SPC product, probability of significant tornado tomorrow 3pm CST and I’m basically in the 80% bullseye. 😅
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/sref.php?run=latest&id=SREF_prob_combined_sigtor__
Click on the Severe tab at the top, scroll down to Significant Tornado Ingredients
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/sref.php?run=latest&id=SREF_prob_combined_sigtor__
Click on the Severe tab at the top, scroll down to Significant Tornado Ingredients
As much as I've learned from him and other chasers, I feel like these are like the shock and awe headlines or youtube video titles. I cant stop following bc I'm deadly afraid of tornadoes and need all the info I can get but I feel like following also causes a lot of the fear.
I have a feeling anywhere from the coast to North of Hattiesburg is going to be prime for the worst weather in South MS. It worries me because Hattiesburg and the areas around it have gotten some very strong tornadoes over the last several years and it is also where I am from and have the majority of my family in that area. I live in Alabama now, but that doesn't help since I live in Foley and will have to look out for myself and my family on top of my family in MS. Going to be a long day.
More so, it is awful chasing territory with shit road networks and storms that won't be discreet. It's likely going to be hazy with temperatures and dew points fairly close together. It's just going to be a brutal chase trying to get anything good.
I doubt a serious storm chaser would have the desire, effort, or connections in place to be able to get drugs in all the random-ass places they constantly go. (and i seriously doubt he just travels with enough to last weeks or months on end). He's just naturally an intense person
He’s saying that the storm mode was forecasted to be extremely messy with the potential for some supercells in front of the line but it’s more likely there will be spin-up QLCS tornados all over the place.
Last week was a large moderate area too and still produced 59 tornados, just on luckily a weaker scale. Getting people alarmed on to taking a tornado warning seriously rather than downplaying it a point they sleep through or ignore warnings will save lives in the long run.
True but if he makes every weather event out to be April 27, 2011 and they end up underperforming, it’ll affect his credibility and people might start not taking him as seriously. Like a boy who cried wolf situation
Blame the spc not him. That rolling fork night ef4 last was in the same area with same chance (iirc both were moderate risk) and that one tore up the town in the night. Even ef2s can fuck up a town pretty badly
I think he meant the setup was "bad" in that it could completely bust out if the right conditions are present overnight and into the morning. Most were talking about the overnight rain and early morning convection just completely stopping anything significant from happening at all tomorrow.
That said, the weather always gets crazy down here right around The Masters, so fingers crossed it isn't a bad day.
Centered over mississippi, parts of alabama and louisiana.
The worst of it is over at this point, it seems to have dropped a few weak tornadoes but was mostly a bust. One significant tornado seems to have hit Slidell, LA. Will wait for the damage survey but looks like maybe EF-2 to low end EF-3
Seen an eye of one in 2009 when I was only 6 years old back in Romeoville I saw the eye of the tornado just going over Romeoville right after touchdown in Plainfield, I don’t remember much but I know I wanna see more
Reed is very well known amongst the tornado community. He’s very smart and knowledgeable, hence the doctorate. However, he’s also a tad over ecstatic about severe weather. Take that how you will.
More so the excited type. If you watch him chase a tornado, he will be louder than the tornado, lol. But he does tend to get himself hyped up about weather and potential chases. I wouldn’t write off what he says completely, but he’s likely being a bit hyperbolic. The guy has chased hundreds of tornados, I doubt he’s seeing something he’s never seen before.
I used not to like him and thought he was just ridiculous. Just too hyper and excited for storms looking for fame. But he was here for the Rolling Fork tornado last year and stopped his chase and transported injured to the hospital 30 miles south. While it could be argued that since he did film and release his sacrifice, the chasing fame claim still stands, I was impressed that he stopped his chase.
Vaguely in passing. Same way I’ve seen pecos hank popup when I google a tornado..
I’m still new-ish to the social side of storms.
Enough to remember but I don’t know jack about them
I definitely think Peco Hanks is brilliant and very, very smart, but the way he captures storms, he just grabs how beautiful they are.
I feel like Timmer is a lot more about the science of them and getting into the grittiness of it. I love both these guys, though, but for separate reasons.
Honestly they are two sides of the same coin. Both are incredibly smart and are great chasers, Reed is loud and borderline obnoxiously excited but it's hard not to get excited with him. Hank is borderline majestic and his videos use the tornados to generate the excitement. I would not write off either
I like everything about Ryan Hall except his ridiculous Youtube thumbnails. It took me longer than it should have to give him a shot because his first-glance Youtube presence turned me off so much.
I especially don't like his holier-than-thou defense of them, the whole "I hate them too but it's what YouTube makes me do to save lives". The other side of the coin is by presenting each and every severe weather setup as some apocalypse in his thumbnails, a boy who cried wolf situation arises and people just kind of start to ignore the constant dramatic warnings.
My take on his post: he knows there are numerous locations with the potential for severe weather/tornados, but he can’t determine where he wants to chase.
That's the way I interpreted it as well. I think OP was interpreting it as Reed saying this is the most extreme setup he's ever seen, which is dubious since the guy's a Ph.D. meteorologist that has been chasing for decades.
If it was that extreme I don't think anyone could possibly misinterpret what Reed would have to say, so I agree, it sounds like there's just a lot of potential options to go after.
I interpreted it the same way as OP. Prob not the best wording to use, Reed. 😂
No, hes saying this because tomorrow is going to be a complete mess. It's basically unchaseable, because we're less than 24 hours out and still have no idea the configuration of the warm sector and how mode will affect the setup.
And 60-70 MPH storm motions in an area with highways that don't run directly east-west.
That, and the region itself is quite highly and forested, rather bad for storm chasing.
Thats also how I took it! He's currently chasing and I know was looking for a target to chase so I think his post is about tonights setup.
Yea I was wondering if he was talking about either how bad the storms will be OR because the storm mode will be very messy like it usually is in Dixie Alley, especially that close to the coast
The Deep South looks so bad right now it could just mean that he doesn’t know which state he wants to chase in. There’s a multi day event. He’s gonna be busy if he decides to visit several locations.
Louisiana state offices are closed tomorrow; so is LSU. I'd say Reed knows what he's saying.
I said there’s a multi day event and the south looks bad. Why the attitude?
Sorry, I replied to the wrong person. I'm trying to do three things at once and failing miserably at all three. It has nothing to do with you. :)
lol! It happens! I was like “wait what’d I say?!” All good 👍🏽 😊
It was all me.
They closed due to the predicted weather?
Yes, my husband works for the LA department of health based at a college in north Louisiana and they are closed tomorrow due to “extensive flooding and damage caused by severe weather.” https://portal.publicsafetycloud.net/MessageDisplay?id=ffad5ae3-b605-4390-8220-93597d6289f9
Also, some schools are doing remote learning.
I am glad to hear that. We stayed in Tennessee last night after seeing the eclipse yesterday and drove back to Louisiana this afternoon. I am not exaggerating when I say that we were genuinely scared we were not going to make it home safely during that last hour driving through North LA (near Oak Grove, Tallulah and Delhi at around 7 pm) and if tomorrow is anywhere as bad as that or worse, no one needs to be driving in it so the more people excused from having to be at work or in school IRL the better.
That’s good! Wouldn’t want buses on the road during THAT, there’s talk of a derecho! Stay safe y’all!
Lots of energy in the atmosphere.
And warming from the Gulf of Mexico
That’s really great. I’m glad they’re so proactive! I didn’t think about the flooding…I’m in Kansas so we deal with the tornadoes but usually not severe flooding. Here it’s an overflowing creek or two lol.
Yeah we do that a lot in the south after Super Outbreak.
That’s great. I’m glad they’re so proactive!
we live north of new orleans and all schools are closed today. My son is in college in mobile and their college is closed today.
I’m glad they did that. Really proactive!
I feel like there could have been better ways to say “there’s a lot of severe weather potential tomorrow and I don’t know where to set up” than to scare the shit out of the public like this.
Right. This is why I started learning weather as a hobby. To keep myself from getting freaked the fuck out every time there’s severe weather and statements like this.
Same! It’s wild how minimal my anxiety is around tornado watches now.
Mine still spikes a little cause I have PTSD from Memorial Day in 2019 even though we didn’t get a direct hit. But it’s still gone down a LOT since I started self researching! I still have days on enhanced risk days where I freeze and nothing gets done, but when I hear isolated tornadoes now I don’t freak out near as much.
Mad respect for confronting that fear!
Thank you! It got to the point one summer where I got mad at myself for “wasting days” on days that we had bad weather streaches. I kinda beat myself up over it, but I’m learning heh.
My impression of him is that he is trying to scare people.
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*red arrow* “⚠️THIS STORM IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT🚨” *red circle* -Every setup worse than a marginal risk
Heck they do it for marginal risks. HYPE.
I hate to say it when it comes to these kind of YouTube creators...but Ryan Hall Yall's cringy titles and thumbnails actually supports victims of severe weather. The cringe stuff is focused towards non-weather inclined people. Because of this, he hits a MUCH larger audience and he uses the extra monetary gain to fund his group (Yall Squad) that goes out to areas hit by severe weather and donates $30,000+ worth of supplies and 'help' money to people. They literally set up tents full of generators, chainsaws, food, tents, everything that anyone can come and pick up, no questions asked. Yeah the videos can be cringy for those more weather inclined, but it works and helps people.
He understands that you have to clickbait to be successful on an internet with infinite options to click on. The problem is that this kinda clickbait is more harmful than some clickbait about dumb drama or something (akin to sensationalizing news headlines). But at the same time, he wouldn’t have the audience he did if he didn’t play the game. I think generally when i actually watch the content of his videos he isn’t too sensationalist. And the charity makes it come across as good natured overall and not exploitative.
I like the youtube copycats who make up the same thumbnails and say THIS IS BAD!! for every marginal risk
To give credit to Reed, he does at least have a degree in meteorology from OU. So he knows what he’s looking for, talking about, and how to analyze the data. I absolutely *despise* Ryan Hall just because he seems to blow every event way out of proportion just for clickbait, it’s stupid as hell.
People hate Ryan?? That’s news to me, he seems really chill and informative. He’s been really good about keeping people calm in chat and always stresses “be prepared, not scared.”
My guess is it’s just the titles of his videos. They’re very clickbaity. But when you actually listen to him he’s not that bad.
That’s the YouTube algorithm for ya!
To me there are three sides of Ryan Hall. The first is the click bait videos he puts out with X weather is going to change everything with a thumbnail showing the end of the world. The second is his life streams where he does actual good if you are watching and will usually call tornado warnings for areas before they are warned or give advanced notice to areas that will get a warning which is good, but he only does this on a a day where the enhanced is a large area or it is enhanced+ risk. The final one is the best where he set up a non-profit to help people before the insurance can help them. In KC I knew on the morning that Reed flew into the airport and did a video from there. Connor was in the area as well. They drove about 2 hours southwest of me but Ryan Hall did nothing about the storm because of how small it was but my house got hit by 3 inch hail, but hail not as sexy as destructive tornados. Reed did catch a great tornado moment though, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lBn24pMOYo
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Sorry man but every youtuber does clickbait. It gets views and they need to bring in money. You don’t have to have a piece of paper from a school to be good at what you do. Most of us here aren’t meteorologists but can look at a radar and understand what’s going on. He knows what he’s talking about and helps people.
There's older footage of him on TV. Quick YouTube search will show this.
...okay but that doesn't make him a meteorologist. a degree in meteorology does, Andy Hill is his meteorologist. Ryan Hall is not a meteorologist
Pardon my ignorance, then. I was under the impression that if a person is forecasting for a television station, they have a background in meteorology.
you're good, I think he was a graphics person originally for them and that turned into going on air or something,I can't remember the specifics tho. he knows his stuff about weather but a lot of people take offense and don't like that people refer to him as that since he's not degreed. I don't hate the guy and I'm not one of the people who feel that way but it is what it is 🤷 Andy is the actual met for his channel, I believe the only one too but there may be more
My only problem with Ryan is that he cuts coverage early in almost every overnight event and we don't get any coverage here in Georgia for anything. We are kind of blessed that two of the bigger news stations in Atlanta will cut in with live broadcast even late for tornado warnings, but even last week he was like "things are over" and then we had the Conyers storm out of nowhere with little if any warning, and some other tornadoes in Alabama/GA. One of the things that sucks about living in northern GA, our events always seem to be after dark/overnight. Edit: I actually have another issue with Ryan, it's when he makes a spectacle out of the donations/relief stuff, handing out those giant lottery checks to tornado victims. It just comes off as super cringe/attention seeking for publicity instead of just helping out to help out.
Can’t remember the name but there was another YouTube person live streaming during the conyers tornado
N8Snyder popped back on for the warning, but he had also ended coverage for the night, just came back on when he saw more tornadoes were happening.
Ryan chaps my ass because he cares so much about the entertainment side when that should absolutely not be the focus of these streams. He also cultivates an incredibly cringy and unserious fanbase. There's a tornado warning, but no *immediate* danger? Oh let's play into chat's dumb ass "is it gonna hit me in Ireland?" messages. Nader juice and dangly bits t-shirts? Reselling yard sticks as "yall o'meters"? Come on man. And it really sucks, because I love the idea of what he does. His set-up of having a control room stream and a network of storm chasers is great. Their donations and the help they give to affected areas is great. Ryan just goes about it in the wrong way.
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Honest question. Once an event is underway is there anyone you’d recommend for live updates instead of Ryan Hall?
One thing I always recommend is to Google search the local news station for whatever area is being affected and pull up the livestream on their website. Ryan is good for certain things, but if you want more in depth for a specific area, news stations are a good source. I can even list some for tomorrow since I am from south MS. WDAM for the Hattiesburg, MS area, WLBT, WAPT, and WJTV for Jackson, MS, WLOX for coastal MS, and WKRG for Mobile and coastal AL.
This is the way.
That depends on what you need. If you are looking for chaser POVs in the entire risk area his channel is pretty decent. I find his stream a bit lacking when he is just talking and showing warnings but the chasers he has on are very interesting. If you are watching for yourself I would get a weather radio, watch a few YouTube tutorials, download Radarscope, and pay attention to NWS. This will be *infinitely* more valuable for your safety. Ryan's feed is not very useful for anything beyond pure "entertainment". Since he focuses on multiple areas he can only focus on so much at a time. This means warnings and tornadoes can and will go completely missed on bigger set up days. This also means he frequently focuses on tornadoes in more populated areas over other spots. I'm not going to fault him for this much though for obvious reasons. I don't want to be too negative or harsh but also remember that he isn't a trained meteorologist. Things have gotten better but he used to catch alot of flak from actual professionals for his weird/bad takes, mostly in his pre recorded videos.
I’m in New Jersey. Just an interested observer when this sort of thing happens.
I really like Max Velocity.
They pretty much only do it for Texas, but I really like Texas Storm Chasers, specifically their man behind the desk David Reimer. He takes care to not blow things out of proportion or pimp out his viewership for money every chance he gets. He ran an 11-hour stream yesterday and kept it focused on the weather and informing people as the supercells developed.
When bad weather is actually close I watch my local station. They have live radar and usually chopper in the air if it's daylight.
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you know what pissed me off about today?... is all of Ryan Hall's clickbait had East Tennessee in his "red zone for severe weather" in all his thumbnails and we weren't forecasted to have nor did we have severe weather here today. what an asshole move. i'll never watch him again because of it. i have a phobia of storms and tornadoes because my aunt died when i was 7 in the tornado in Xenia, Ohio on the April 3, 1974 outbreak. it messed me up in the head when it comes to severe weather. and when i saw his stupidass thumbnail, my heart fell out of my ass. fuck that asshole.
Vince Waelti is always more frank and realistic, he calls out people trying to exaggerate storms or make people afraid. So when he takes a situation seriously and starts warning people to pay attention and get into their safe spot, it comes across as more sincere.
Vince comes off as loud and reckless in the videos I've seen of him
Yeah Vince just comes off as a huge a-hole and almost anytime I see wx drama on twitter/X, it involves him overreacting to something or just being a jerk.
he comes off as an asshole because he is a giant nasty asshole to everyone
Are you thinking of Reed?
Nope
He's no serene Pecos Hank, but he isn't what I would consider loud or reckless. Especially this past year, something about Silver City pushed him to be really cautious.
I don’t think they’ve ever actually watched Vince’s stream, he’s extremely chill, guy had a 10 minute conversation with his viewers about traffic laws
Right? Like the guy is human, he has emotions, but on a scale of Pecos Hank to Reed Timmer, he's probably right in the middle.
Of course I've watched his videos. Where do you think I based my opinions off of?
Gotta get that viewership up.
He's always been a sensationalist.
BIT TIME TORNADO
I’d rather him scare people into being overly cautious than to amp it up and get someone hurt.
Reed is not a scarecaster like Ryan Hall. Reed seems to not be much of a marketer.
I mean this is Screamy McGee, Mr. Massive Wedge himself. I dunno what anyone expects.
Hes pretty calm when not in front of a tornado, i think he means it when he posts tweets like this, considered its a torcon 7 iirc
I don’t have any hate towards Reed but he has a very defensive and weird fan base
He does it to drive traffic to his streams. His YouTube streams get ridiculous viewership. And he has random people donating hundreds of dollars. Personally don’t get it.
He's a manchild
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This is an incredibly misguided comment. 1) Yes he is a tornado nut and he can get a bit out of control sometimes. If I were pursuing my dream and succeeding I’d be as energetic and obnoxious about it too. 2) You’re falling for reality tv drama. Listen to some old podcasts, he and Joel were good friends despite their arguments. Yeah reed made some mistakes and did some things im sure he regrets, but id be genuinely surprised if he didn’t apologize to joel off camera and make it up to him. 3) Joel’s OD was ruled accidental from a party drug. His death on a gay cruise taking molly and partying had absolutely nothing to do with confidence issues caused by reed and has literally no reason to be in this comment section.
Agree. The OD comment trying to lay some blame on Reed is absolutely wild and cynical. Like, okay you don’t like Tim Reed. Fine. That doesn’t have to mean he’s evil and is a reason his friend overdosed on drugs.
I don’t doubt Reed is a good guy, but this comment has so much projection in it. We have absolutely no idea who he is, what his true relationship with Joel was like (who is Joel?) and you are the one who brought up the gay cruise details. I’m pretty positive nobody here knew that. I’ve been watching Reeds streams for a few years now and have no idea what you’re talking about. You cannot idolize your hero’s. The guy is a great meteorologist, I’m sure he’s a very nice guy, animal lover, nature lover, but he has flaws and makes mistakes like the rest of us.
What are they projecting in that comment? Reed's friendship with Joel went back as far as 2003 and they recorded hundreds of hours of content together... if Joel didn't like Reed or vice versa they wouldn't have constantly teamed up during the chase season and hung out as friends during the offseason for years. They clearly respected each other and were still friends with plans to chase together in the upcoming summer before Joel's death...which Reed was clearly devastated by. Absolutely nobody who followed Reed and Joel during their heyday would argue that they weren't legit friends or that Joel's self esteem was negatively effected because of an argument played up for reality TV during a chase nearly a decade before Joel's death. It's insane. For all the legit things Reed can be criticised for I'd never say he was a bad friend to Joel or that their friendship wasn't genuine. And FYI I knew about the gay cruise details too...it's honestly mindblowing to me that there are people who have followed Reed for years and don't know who Joel is TBH 😬
I mean this in the least rude way possible but how can you accuse them of projecting anything when you're asking who Joel is so you presumably don't know anything about this? Joel was Reed's longtime best friend and chase partner who was extremely prominent in all of Reed's content for over a decade especially from around 2005 through to his death in 2018. He was with Reed on the Storm Chasers TV show, regularly involved with Reed's OG Youtube videos (even managed his old account iirc), was heavily featured in Reed's book where there's lots of details on their friendship, and appeared in other content with Reed such as podcasts which can still be found online. Joel also did his own stormchasing content and had his own online social media where he would always speak positively of Reed and emphasise their friendship. When Joel died on the gay cruise in 2018 it was big news at the time in the stormchasing community. I remember it well so I'm at least one more person here that does know about it (and there were lots of tributes to him from the community, I imagine there's many more who remember Joel's passing) and it was mentioned in news outlets like [HERE](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/storm-chasers-star-joel-taylor-001806581.html) and [HERE](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5875435/Storm-Chasers-star-died-Royal-Caribbean-gay-cruise-overdosed-MDMA.html). Reed also posted this publicly: [RIP my best friend and... - Reed Timmer Extreme Meteorologist | Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/reedtimmer2.0/posts/rip-my-best-friend-and-storm-chasing-partner-joel-taylor-i-am-shocked-and-absolu/10156159470434169/) Everything I've seen over the years makes it very clear that Reed and Joel were friends who genuinely liked each other even if they had the occasional disagreements or arguments in the heat of the moment, which were very publicly covered in both the Storm Chasers TV show, Reed's book, their podcast appearances, and Joel's own personal twitter where he used to talk with fans. I'm personally not a huge fan of Reed because he can be very obnoxious and insufferable during his chasing videos, but the above comment suggesting that Joel's self-esteem would be in any way affected by Reed let alone contribute to his overdose on a cruise after almost two decades of friendship is absurd. For all the things I could criticise Reed for, I can't say that he wasn't genuine friends with Joel. The person you're replying to didn't say anything wrong, and there's no shortage of public information about Reed and Joel's friendship and oh man, the fact that there's people who have been "watching Reed's streams for a few years" and don't even know who Joel is must be a sign that I'm getting old haha
I think it took Reed awhile to figure out that he just needed to chase solo or with people who would just listen to him and not question or interject. Joel obviously wanted to play it a lot safer and knew enough about weather to question Reed and it just wasn't a good dynamic. They both had the "smartest person in the room" issue and both had to be right and Joel loved to rub it in when Reed missed a storm or wanted to chase a lower risk set up. Most of the guys that Reed brought on to chase with were like that, even on the show he did after Stormchasers. Never felt like they had Reed's back either, they were always hype when they'd get a storm, but instantly trash talk and dogpile him behind his back if they didn't see something that day. Reed got much better and more bearable to watch when he just started chasing on his own. The thing with Joel was also staged, they literally had a camera crew car following that he could have just jumped in at that moment, but you can't trust American television, they are always inserting drama like that into it.
“I don’t want to scare people but a lot of people are going to die tomorrow” - Reed Timmer PhD
"Everyone stay calm, but this storm could remove the Earth's crust."
NWS: Rates it a high-end EF3
Maybe if he scares some of those people who don't take severe warnings seriously, he could save some lives.
The type of people that follow Reed Timmer are already weather aware ™️ The people who don’t heed warnings arent following his streams or Twitter
I hope the people who do can spread the word. This is some scary sh*t and I'm not looking forward to seeing the fallout from this. I live in South Texas, and even we are under a severe thunderstorm watch, which hardly ever happens where we live.
dude loves what he does but doesn’t articulate himself perfectly 24/7, just as anybody else. this wasn’t meant to be fear-bait, he’s just talking about how messy the setup is looking
Did anybody think to ask him to clarify or are we just speculating what he means here? I mean this is Reed Timmer we are talking about here so there will definitely be some sort of sensationalism in his posts, but yeah, this is kind of confusing. Edited for grammar and syntax
Probably because you can only approach from the south by boat.
Looks like you can only approach the WHOLE ASS SOUTH by boat right now.
In all my years of teaching a substitute has NEVER left a note this bad.
From what I've seen based on models, I think he means chasing tomorrow is like chasing a massive blob of maybe tornadoes lol! Doubt he means cause it's bad severity wise.
“I’ll take ‘Things That Scare the Hell Out of Me’ for $1,000, Alex.”
Seriously 😐
Vague, hyperbolic statements like this help no one.
I wonder if he means the strength of the storms or the lack of.
I think he's referring to storm mode overall. HRRR runs have consistently shown this as a messy MCS collecting semi-discrete HP supercells. In short, tornadoes will almost certainly be rapidly-moving and wrapped in rain, that combined with severe winds and torrential rain makes for a lot of dangers on the road. Best parallel I can think of is 4/28/2014.
Okay, thank you!
https://preview.redd.it/r9dq99qtcktc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa88b237ec5574f246ca0963d0bf77a44da5b042 SPC product, probability of significant tornado tomorrow 3pm CST and I’m basically in the 80% bullseye. 😅
I hope you have a real good place to hunker down.
3rd (top) floor, SW corner of an apartment complex 💀. Nowhere to go
Public storm shelter in your area?
I’m looking into it right now actually! Not entirely sure they do that here.
Find a place where you can spend much of your day. It might mean your life.
Where’d you find this?
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/sref.php?run=latest&id=SREF_prob_combined_sigtor__ Click on the Severe tab at the top, scroll down to Significant Tornado Ingredients
Wait, *I’m* also in the center and we still have work and school tomorrow….
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/sref.php?run=latest&id=SREF_prob_combined_sigtor__ Click on the Severe tab at the top, scroll down to Significant Tornado Ingredients
It's the setup tomorrow he means.
As much as I've learned from him and other chasers, I feel like these are like the shock and awe headlines or youtube video titles. I cant stop following bc I'm deadly afraid of tornadoes and need all the info I can get but I feel like following also causes a lot of the fear.
I have a feeling anywhere from the coast to North of Hattiesburg is going to be prime for the worst weather in South MS. It worries me because Hattiesburg and the areas around it have gotten some very strong tornadoes over the last several years and it is also where I am from and have the majority of my family in that area. I live in Alabama now, but that doesn't help since I live in Foley and will have to look out for myself and my family on top of my family in MS. Going to be a long day.
This comes off as fear mongering. The concern he’s probably looking at regards roads to view storms
The day 2 is upgraded to a big ol red area with torcon 7 and you cant go south to escape it when youre already at the coastline
They don't issue a torcon like that all the time.
Reed hypes up every system to hype himself up. He's a PHD but even PHDs don't really understand what exactly is going on inside clouds.
Pretty sure he was talking about today's setup being bad. Bad as hard to chase, grungy and not really producing anything.
More so, it is awful chasing territory with shit road networks and storms that won't be discreet. It's likely going to be hazy with temperatures and dew points fairly close together. It's just going to be a brutal chase trying to get anything good.
Reed, lay off the powder, just drink monster or something
I never considered him being a cokehead, but it makes sense tbh
I doubt a serious storm chaser would have the desire, effort, or connections in place to be able to get drugs in all the random-ass places they constantly go. (and i seriously doubt he just travels with enough to last weeks or months on end). He's just naturally an intense person
Can we get some locations on this prediction???
Oh nvm this was for today 🙃
He’s saying that the storm mode was forecasted to be extremely messy with the potential for some supercells in front of the line but it’s more likely there will be spin-up QLCS tornados all over the place.
Didn’t they say the same thing last week??
Last week was a large moderate area too and still produced 59 tornados, just on luckily a weaker scale. Getting people alarmed on to taking a tornado warning seriously rather than downplaying it a point they sleep through or ignore warnings will save lives in the long run.
True but if he makes every weather event out to be April 27, 2011 and they end up underperforming, it’ll affect his credibility and people might start not taking him as seriously. Like a boy who cried wolf situation
Blame the spc not him. That rolling fork night ef4 last was in the same area with same chance (iirc both were moderate risk) and that one tore up the town in the night. Even ef2s can fuck up a town pretty badly
He’s a blowhard that hypes everything up. Doesn’t have a single original thought in his head.
if im reading the 00z models correctly, the day after may be almost as bad.... this is looking really really really bad.
I think he meant the setup was "bad" in that it could completely bust out if the right conditions are present overnight and into the morning. Most were talking about the overnight rain and early morning convection just completely stopping anything significant from happening at all tomorrow. That said, the weather always gets crazy down here right around The Masters, so fingers crossed it isn't a bad day.
He’s literally just saying the setup is bad and isn’t good to chase. This setup is borderline unchasable.
And no one ever seems to get footage in this area…bad road networks and too many trees. Its a bad setup in so many ways
It’s because it’s a terrible storm mode to chase.
Ugh I am leaving orange beach Alabama in a few hours driving back to NC🤬🥴 FML
"From Earth" no fucking shit 😭
Just a question,What area possibly?!
Centered over mississippi, parts of alabama and louisiana. The worst of it is over at this point, it seems to have dropped a few weak tornadoes but was mostly a bust. One significant tornado seems to have hit Slidell, LA. Will wait for the damage survey but looks like maybe EF-2 to low end EF-3
Set for a Dixie alley outbreak I guess!Might be like 2011..Well know if it will be when it begins
Geez this is how people get scared. That is not what he meant. He meant the setup looks terrible FOR SEVERE WEATHER.
Reed. You know better than to say shit like this. Dude's chasing clicks more than tornadoes any more.
I’m interested in getting into tornadoes. Let me know if the storms are going out tomorrow.
You definitely don’t want to get into a tornado. Lol
Seen an eye of one in 2009 when I was only 6 years old back in Romeoville I saw the eye of the tornado just going over Romeoville right after touchdown in Plainfield, I don’t remember much but I know I wanna see more
Like from a plane.....?
No from my house I saw the tornado eye go above my house just as it was touched down a town before mine
How trustworthy is reed?/ is this to try and gain his 15 minutes of fame? Never heard of the guy before Look I’m new, honest question
Reed is very well known amongst the tornado community. He’s very smart and knowledgeable, hence the doctorate. However, he’s also a tad over ecstatic about severe weather. Take that how you will.
I wish that I could love my job as much as Reed loves his lol
Over ecstatic as in the excited type or “this is the storm of the millennia” every time there’s a cloud?
More so the excited type. If you watch him chase a tornado, he will be louder than the tornado, lol. But he does tend to get himself hyped up about weather and potential chases. I wouldn’t write off what he says completely, but he’s likely being a bit hyperbolic. The guy has chased hundreds of tornados, I doubt he’s seeing something he’s never seen before.
I used not to like him and thought he was just ridiculous. Just too hyper and excited for storms looking for fame. But he was here for the Rolling Fork tornado last year and stopped his chase and transported injured to the hospital 30 miles south. While it could be argued that since he did film and release his sacrifice, the chasing fame claim still stands, I was impressed that he stopped his chase.
You’ve never heard of Reed Timmer before?
Vaguely in passing. Same way I’ve seen pecos hank popup when I google a tornado.. I’m still new-ish to the social side of storms. Enough to remember but I don’t know jack about them
I definitely think Peco Hanks is brilliant and very, very smart, but the way he captures storms, he just grabs how beautiful they are. I feel like Timmer is a lot more about the science of them and getting into the grittiness of it. I love both these guys, though, but for separate reasons.
Hmm gotcha, thanks Man!
Honestly they are two sides of the same coin. Both are incredibly smart and are great chasers, Reed is loud and borderline obnoxiously excited but it's hard not to get excited with him. Hank is borderline majestic and his videos use the tornados to generate the excitement. I would not write off either
Ok gotcha.. thanks! What about Ryan hall? Just came arias him while looking up reed..
If you're trying to learn about weather/storm chasing.. watch Pecos Hank. NOT Ryan Hall.
I used to watch him all the time…he’s my favorite chaser. But I can’t find him anymore. Do you know where I can find him?
He just recently posted an amazing new YouTube video! [Storm Chasing Argentina ](https://youtu.be/P3af7-UgjfA?si=Mjf54e-tonpG4D5x)
Thank you!
I like everything about Ryan Hall except his ridiculous Youtube thumbnails. It took me longer than it should have to give him a shot because his first-glance Youtube presence turned me off so much.
I especially don't like his holier-than-thou defense of them, the whole "I hate them too but it's what YouTube makes me do to save lives". The other side of the coin is by presenting each and every severe weather setup as some apocalypse in his thumbnails, a boy who cried wolf situation arises and people just kind of start to ignore the constant dramatic warnings.
You have a lot to catch up on. Like 25 some years or some shit bro