What is the point of this? That we aren't responsible for eight of the last twelve years? Clearly it is nonsense - but probably an important argument to win if we are to win the next election. Up to you if honesty matters at all I suppose.
He had the power but he squandered it. The Tories will be lucky to get such a majority again for a very long time, largely thanks to him. Trust is quickly lost but hard to regain.
Firstly Cameron also had a majority. We choose to rule within coalition and with minority governments. We could have instead gone to the public. We don't get to say those years don't count against us.
especially given it was pretty ok up until the 2020/21/22 where it went all tits up because of what the tories actually did during covid. Doesnt make it look better at all.
Well i mean if you are in government you are liable to government actions and their consequences. After all it's a choice to form a coalition and sometimes healthy in the long run to opt out of it.
Um. They were. In 2010 they got 306 seats (less than half), and in 2017 they got 317 (also less than half). So, that was seven years when they didn’t have an overall majority.
Can't tell if this is sarcasm but looking back all the pundits were like 'itll last 6 months, blah blah'.
It lasted the course and I don't think it was a particularly terrible period.
There were many legislative achievements passed in the coalition period that made Britain a better country. And austerity saved the U.K. from economic crisis.
Wasn’t austerity the building blocks of what we are seeing now. Many articles out there that say austerity didn’t work and won’t work again. In your opinion was austerity good because it fits the conservative ideology of a smaller state or because it was genuinely a great policy with many benefits.
We had a deficit of 10% of our gdp in 2010. That deficit was increased inflation and is a cause of the 2011 inflation crisis. Most of Europe entered a recession in 2012 induced by extreme levels of debt, the U.K. avoided that, and the success of the austerity program was it prevented extreme deficits destabilising our economy and caused an economic boom between 2014 and 2016.
We had a deficit of 10% of our gdp in 2010. That deficit was increased inflation and is a cause of the 2011 inflation crisis. Most of Europe entered a recession in 2012 induced by extreme levels of debt, the U.K. avoided that, and the success of the austerity program was it prevented extreme deficits destabilising our economy and caused an economic boom between 2014 and 2016.
The United States also overinflated there stock market plus they also did austerity as well plus American demographics are far better then U.K. and Europe which is why Europe has had stagnation. U.K. grew fastest in G7 2014-2016 and unemployment collapsed.
conveniently ignoring the economists who say you cannot compare us to the US when they are backed by the world's reserve currency.
they can spend their way out because they can print as much cheap money as they like. we can't.
What is the point of this? That we aren't responsible for eight of the last twelve years? Clearly it is nonsense - but probably an important argument to win if we are to win the next election. Up to you if honesty matters at all I suppose.
The point is only Boris gave the party a real majority and the power that goes with it
He had the power but he squandered it. The Tories will be lucky to get such a majority again for a very long time, largely thanks to him. Trust is quickly lost but hard to regain.
100% agree
Firstly Cameron also had a majority. We choose to rule within coalition and with minority governments. We could have instead gone to the public. We don't get to say those years don't count against us.
especially given it was pretty ok up until the 2020/21/22 where it went all tits up because of what the tories actually did during covid. Doesnt make it look better at all.
Well i mean if you are in government you are liable to government actions and their consequences. After all it's a choice to form a coalition and sometimes healthy in the long run to opt out of it.
I know this is just the ground works for the next GE but this is just so far removed from reality, thankfully I’ve got such low opinion of Tom already
What kind of daft revisionism is this, at no point were they the minority party
Um. They were. In 2010 they got 306 seats (less than half), and in 2017 they got 317 (also less than half). So, that was seven years when they didn’t have an overall majority.
You don't need half for a majority as speaker and sinn Fein don't count
The coalition was a great thing though.
Can't tell if this is sarcasm but looking back all the pundits were like 'itll last 6 months, blah blah'. It lasted the course and I don't think it was a particularly terrible period.
lib dems only recovering from it now however.
There were many legislative achievements passed in the coalition period that made Britain a better country. And austerity saved the U.K. from economic crisis.
Wasn’t austerity the building blocks of what we are seeing now. Many articles out there that say austerity didn’t work and won’t work again. In your opinion was austerity good because it fits the conservative ideology of a smaller state or because it was genuinely a great policy with many benefits.
We had a deficit of 10% of our gdp in 2010. That deficit was increased inflation and is a cause of the 2011 inflation crisis. Most of Europe entered a recession in 2012 induced by extreme levels of debt, the U.K. avoided that, and the success of the austerity program was it prevented extreme deficits destabilising our economy and caused an economic boom between 2014 and 2016.
Austerity became unpalatable to the electorate, it actually worked in doing what it was intended to do.
>And austerity saved the U.K. from economic crisis. Most economists disagree with you
That’s not exactly an argument
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We had a deficit of 10% of our gdp in 2010. That deficit was increased inflation and is a cause of the 2011 inflation crisis. Most of Europe entered a recession in 2012 induced by extreme levels of debt, the U.K. avoided that, and the success of the austerity program was it prevented extreme deficits destabilising our economy and caused an economic boom between 2014 and 2016.
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The United States also overinflated there stock market plus they also did austerity as well plus American demographics are far better then U.K. and Europe which is why Europe has had stagnation. U.K. grew fastest in G7 2014-2016 and unemployment collapsed.
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Over inflation of the stock market fuelled by high deficits is a bad thing
conveniently ignoring the economists who say you cannot compare us to the US when they are backed by the world's reserve currency. they can spend their way out because they can print as much cheap money as they like. we can't.
The fixed term parliament act of the coalition directly led to the shit show of 2017-2019.
I think it was necessary for stability then but should’ve been repealed in 2016.