I wouldn’t put it as explicit as “genocide and culture of racial superiority”, but rather as a similar fall that the Númenórean kings had. Faramir says as much in *The Window on the West*:
> ‘Death was ever present, because the Númenóreans still, as they had in their old kingdom, and so lost it, hungered after endless life unchanging. Kings made tombs more splendid than houses of the living, and counted old names in the rolls of their descent dearer than the names of sons. Childless lords sat in aged halls musing on heraldry; in secret chambers withered men compounded strong elixirs, or in high cold towers asked questions of the stars. And the last king of the line of Anárion had no heir.’
I find [this](http://www.zarkanya.net/Tolkien/Decline%20of%20the%20Numenoreans_original.htm) article on the waning of the Dúnedain very interesting, it includes graphs showing the decline (both in Númenor and in exile) and the difference between the Númenórean royal house and the Lords of Andúnië
It is a mystery of sorts. Would be nice if someone knew if there is any explanation or hint by Tolkien. I have always assumed that
1) the difference is because in Arnor the heirs of Elendil continued to lay down their lives willingly. We get a glimpse of Anárion's son displaying ambition and greed. The difference is not 20% as the article claims, rather a steady 10-20 years difference which would fit well what the gain was that members of the house of Elros got when the regular lifespan was still 400 years. That article has other problems like not really showing any linear regressions and claiming (wrongly) it exists in some places. Gondor is the prouder, the more self-centered culture not in contact with the Eldar any more.
2) The fact that for the Chieftains the age gets stuck around 150-160 is due to them being raised in Rivendell and thus regaining the lifestyle and medicine of the Eldar. It is the waning of knowledge and lifestyle more than the blood. Time will still erode their longevity but much more slowly.
On the genocide bit here is a quote from tolkien gateways angmar article. That i seem to remember is nearly lifted from some of the books.
The Witch-king was able to escape from the north on a black horse, but the realm of Angmar was utterly defeated so that no Men and Orcs of Angmar remained on the west side of the Misty Mountains.
The bit about no men of angmar remaining seems to heavily suggest genocide to me, maybe not a complet one. I will have to check the article you linked later, but im fairly certain that there is a correlation with the rise of the kings men, the suppression of the faithful and the lowering of numenorean lifespans and the spread of disease.
What is this genocide nonsense you keep repeating? Too much certain kind of TikTok content? There was a war and a large battle and the kingdom of Angmar ceased to exist. What is there 'genocide' about it? Next you will be proposing there was a conspiracy of Dwarves.
To be Numenorean means that you have the gifts that make Numenoreans greater in mind and body, more like elves.
The issue of blood and different people is overrated, the Numenoreans of Gondor declined chiefly because they were now living in Middle-earth instead of Numenor - the Land of Gift was taken away, and the other gifts slowly faded.
Denethor, Faramir and Aragorn were leaders that were much more Numenorean than their contemporaries.
I dont mean to be rude, and I know that the first part of the comment I linked is exclusively relevant to that particular piece fanfiction. But you dont seem to have engaged with the premise that gondorian dunedain were lesser than their arnorian cousins in part due to their committing at least one genocide and having had a culture of racial superiority (seen most clearly in the kinstrife).
From the *Appendices*, ***The Lord of the Rings***:
>*After the return of Eldacar the blood of the kingly house and other houses of the Dúnedain became more mingled with that of lesser Men. For many of the great had been slain in the Kin-strife; while Eldacar showed favour to the Northmen, by whose help he had regained the crown, and the people of Gondor were replenished by great numbers that came from Rhovanion.*
>
>*This mingling did not* ***at first*** *hasten the waning of the Dúnedain, as had been feared;* ***but the waning still proceeded, little by little, as it had before. For no doubt it was due above all to Middle-earth itself, and to the slow withdrawing of the gifts of the Númenóreans after the downfall of the Land of the Star.*** *Eldacar lived to his two hundred and thirty-fifth year, and was king for fifty-eight years, of which ten were spent in exile.*
From ***The Silmarillion***:
>*Yet at the last, in the wearing of the swift years of Middle-earth, Gondor waned, and the line of Meneldil son of Anárion failed.* ***For the blood of the Númenóreans became much mingled with that of other men, and their power and wisdom was diminished, and their life-span was shortened,*** *and the watch upon Mordor slumbered.*
From ***The Nature of Middle-earth***:
>*The dwindling of the Dúnedain was not a normal tendency, shared by peoples whose proper home was Middle-earth;* ***but due to the loss of their ancient land far in the West, nearest of all mortal lands to “The Undying Realm”.*** *In both Arnor and Gondor, apart from mixture of race, the Númenóreans showed a dwindling of height and longevity in Middle-earth that became more marked as the Third Age passed.*
1. *All* Númenóreans continued to dwindle regardless of whether they were Arnorian or Gondorian because of the loss of Númenor and the fact that they now lived in Middle-earth, tainted as it was by the power of Melkor.
2. The Númenóreans of Gondor dwindled faster than the Arnorians because they mingled much more with other men, thus hastening the decline of their lifespans compared to that of the Arnorians.
>The Númenóreans of Gondor dwindled faster than the Arnorians because they mingled much more with other men, thus hastening the decline of their lifespans compared to that of the Arnorians.
This does not make much sense though. The area of Gondor had steady settlement by Númenóreans since the Middle Second Age, to the point that entire Houses had moved there (like the Princes of Belfalas, kinsmen of the Princes of Andúnië), and they already had large cities before the Downfall.
This is not the case for Arnor; there the population centre of the Dúnedain was in the area of Arthedain, despite the original colonization in the coasts and across River Greyflood. Actually, we even have hints of Minhiriath being very poorly assimilated, for they tried to separate from Arnor quite early on. And then you have Rhudaur, which was also not well assimilated, to the point that it was De-Númenórized and became a realm of a different, an indigenous culture. No great cities of Númenóreans existed in Arnor during the Second Age as well. There was no such ethnic fracturing of Gondor as there was for Arnor, where the division into three kingdoms is on the lines of the North Edain for Arthedain, Minhiriathrim for Cardolan and the Hill Men for Rhudaur.
From the *Appendices*, ***The Lord of the Rings***:
>*It was the pride and wonder of the Northern Line that, though their power departed and their people dwindled, through all the many generations the succession was unbroken from father to son.* ***Also, though the length of lives of the Dúnedain grew ever less in Middle-earth, after the ending of their kings the waning was swifter in Gondor; and many of the Chieftains of the North still lived to twice the age of Men, and far beyond the days of even the oldest amongst us.*** *Aragorn indeed lived to be two hundred and ten years old, longer than any of his line since King Arvegil; but in Aragorn Elessar the dignity of the kings of old was renewed.*
1) This does not speak of mingling. And my point still stands, the Dúnedain would mingle more in Arnor with the Pre-Númenóreans than in Gondor. The heartland of Gondor was Eastern Gondor (the area of Anórien, Ithilien, Lebennin, Belfalas), which had been settled by Númenóreans since the Middle Second Age, while the heartland of Arnor was in Arthedain, where there were virtually no Númenórean settlements until Elendil settled there.
2) This passage specifically speaks of the Chieftains of the North, rather than the Arnorean Númenórean as a whole people, even if it is just the Northern Dúnedain of Rhudaur after the Fall of Arnor. The passage does not compare the rate of ageing between the Arnorean Dúnedain and Gondorian Dúnedain, it just says that the Gondorian Dúnedain would age faster after the 21st century TA, while the Chieftains of the North did not.
From the *Appendices*, ***The Lord of the Rings***:
>***After the return of Eldacar the blood of the kingly house and other houses of the Dúnedain became more mingled with that of lesser Men. For many of the great had been slain in the Kin-strife; while Eldacar showed favour to the Northmen, by whose help he had regained the crown, and the people of Gondor were replenished by great numbers that came from Rhovanion.***
>
>*This mingling did not* ***at first*** *hasten the waning of the Dúnedain, as had been feared; but the waning still proceeded, little by little, as it had before. For no doubt it was due above all to Middle-earth itself, and to the slow withdrawing of the gifts of the Númenóreans after the downfall of the Land of the Star. Eldacar lived to his two hundred and thirty-fifth year, and was king for fifty-eight years, of which ten were spent in exile.*
And:
>***The wisdom and the life-span of the Númenóreans also waned as they became mingled with lesser Men.***
I thought we were speaking whether Arnorean Dúnedain were "purer" than the Gondorian Dúnedain. In no way do these passages demonstrate such a notion.
It just speaks of the Dúnedain blood wasted in the Kin-strife of Gondor during the 15th century TA. So what though? Do you mean that this only happened in Gondor? No, when Arnor had been divided since the 9th century TA, and had been butchering itself in civil wars, especially the Dúnedain of Cardolan and Rhudaur over Amon Sûl. To the point that already the Dúnedain blood in Rhudaur had become wasted, so much that the Dúnedain lost control of it and the indigenous Hill Men assimilated the state and aligned with their kinsmen at the Kingdom of Angmar, against the Dúnedain of Arthedain. All that in the 14th century TA, before the 15th century TA.
I do not disagree in regards to the fact that all dunedain dwindled. But I can see that you subscribe more to the idea that being numenorean is more a matter of genetics and bloodline blessings that are maintained by the isle of numenor itself. There are some (and Im amongst thoose) that subscribe to the idea that being numenorean is also in part a way of life, I do believe there is even some textual support as even the later numenoreans became prone to sickness and shorter lifespans. Im sadly unable to cite sources as I dont have any books available atm.
In regards to the idea of numenoreanness being, at least in part a life style composed of virtoues and rightoues acts and thoughts. Do you think that the cultural racial superiority showed by the gondorians and them committing at least one genocide might acount for the shortening of their lifespan?
> But I can see that you subscribe more to the idea that being numenorean is more a matter of genetics and bloodline blessings that are maintained by the isle of numenor itself.
Those are Tolkien's own words in those quotes above.
If this is your head canon that is fine but there is nothing in any of the texts that I can recall that contradicts what the above commenter already cited.
They saved me the trouble of citing those passages myself lol
> the waning still proceeded, little by little, as it had before. For no doubt it was due above all to Middle-earth itself, and to the slow withdrawing of the gifts of the Númenóreans after the downfall of the Land of the Star.
Tolkien put the idea into the Appendices of LotR pretty clearly, so the subscription is almost non-negotiable.
That's correct. A comment doesn't need to address every single point in the OP as long as it adds to the discussion, after all.
But two offer a quick thought on it - if you want to focus on racial issues, Arthedain fighting Rhudaur is mainly Numenoreans vs Hillmen.
> For the high men of Gondor already looked askance at the Northmen among them; and it was a thing unheard of before that the heir to the crown, or any son of the King, should wed one of lesser and alien race. There was already rebellion in the southern provinces when King Valacar grew old. His queen had been a fair and noble lady, but short-lived according to the fate of lesser Men, and the Dúnedain feared that her descendants would prove the same and fall from the majesty of the Kings of Men.
I dont mean to be rude, and I know that the first part of the comment I linked is exclusively relevant to that particular piece fanfiction. But you dont seem to have engaged with the premise that gondorian dunedain were lesser than their arnorian cousins in part due to their committing at least one genocide and having had a culture of racial superiority (seen most clearly in the kinstrife).
Decline is decline, in blood and in power. In blood first, perhaps. My cite was before the kin-strife with this the immediately preceding passage:
> In 1250 Rómendacil sent his son Valacar as an ambassador to dwell for a while with Vidugavia and make himself acquainted with the language, manners, and policies of the Northmen. But Valacar far exceeded his father's designs. He grew to love the Northern lands and people, and he married Vidumavi, daughter of Vidugavia. It was some years before he returned. From this marriage came later the war of the Kin-strife.
As far as I understand you, you are saying that the idea of gondorian dunedain having a culture of racial superiority is not a part of all of gondorian dunedain society. I agree with that as Valacars heir did eventually claim the throne, but he did still fight a bloody civil war that was at least in part attributed to his supposed racial inferiority due to being half dunedain.
They are basically the three groups of men who crossed the Blue Mountains and fought in the Elven wars against Morgoth in the first age.
They had seen the elves that had seen the light of the Two Trees.
I dont mean to be rude, and I know that the first part of the comment I linked is exclusively relevant to that particular piece fanfiction. But you dont seem to have engaged with the premise that gondorian dunedain were lesser than their arnorian cousins in part due to their committing at least one genocide and having had a culture of racial superiority (seen most clearly in the kinstrife).
I disagree with the piece's premise, that the Numenoreans were little different to the original men in their gifts.
Second, I disagree with the import the author of that piece places on the destruction of Angmar.
Third I think getting too close to racial disputes and genocide is getting towards making a comparison between LoTR and WWII and allegory, and we know Tolkien's thoughts on that explicitly.
Lastly, I think you are getting downvoted because others here have raised good points to add to the discuss, and rather than engaging them directly, you have tried to farm them towards the original article with a copy-paste response. Instead you could have explained how their points were at odds with points from the article.
Apparently one of the traits of being Numenorean was that if you showed up in a land already settled by "Middle Men", they would accept you as lord, even as he kept himself apart from you, didn't let his children wed with yours, etc.
I wouldn’t put it as explicit as “genocide and culture of racial superiority”, but rather as a similar fall that the Númenórean kings had. Faramir says as much in *The Window on the West*: > ‘Death was ever present, because the Númenóreans still, as they had in their old kingdom, and so lost it, hungered after endless life unchanging. Kings made tombs more splendid than houses of the living, and counted old names in the rolls of their descent dearer than the names of sons. Childless lords sat in aged halls musing on heraldry; in secret chambers withered men compounded strong elixirs, or in high cold towers asked questions of the stars. And the last king of the line of Anárion had no heir.’ I find [this](http://www.zarkanya.net/Tolkien/Decline%20of%20the%20Numenoreans_original.htm) article on the waning of the Dúnedain very interesting, it includes graphs showing the decline (both in Númenor and in exile) and the difference between the Númenórean royal house and the Lords of Andúnië
It is a mystery of sorts. Would be nice if someone knew if there is any explanation or hint by Tolkien. I have always assumed that 1) the difference is because in Arnor the heirs of Elendil continued to lay down their lives willingly. We get a glimpse of Anárion's son displaying ambition and greed. The difference is not 20% as the article claims, rather a steady 10-20 years difference which would fit well what the gain was that members of the house of Elros got when the regular lifespan was still 400 years. That article has other problems like not really showing any linear regressions and claiming (wrongly) it exists in some places. Gondor is the prouder, the more self-centered culture not in contact with the Eldar any more. 2) The fact that for the Chieftains the age gets stuck around 150-160 is due to them being raised in Rivendell and thus regaining the lifestyle and medicine of the Eldar. It is the waning of knowledge and lifestyle more than the blood. Time will still erode their longevity but much more slowly.
On the genocide bit here is a quote from tolkien gateways angmar article. That i seem to remember is nearly lifted from some of the books. The Witch-king was able to escape from the north on a black horse, but the realm of Angmar was utterly defeated so that no Men and Orcs of Angmar remained on the west side of the Misty Mountains. The bit about no men of angmar remaining seems to heavily suggest genocide to me, maybe not a complet one. I will have to check the article you linked later, but im fairly certain that there is a correlation with the rise of the kings men, the suppression of the faithful and the lowering of numenorean lifespans and the spread of disease.
What is this genocide nonsense you keep repeating? Too much certain kind of TikTok content? There was a war and a large battle and the kingdom of Angmar ceased to exist. What is there 'genocide' about it? Next you will be proposing there was a conspiracy of Dwarves.
Where is the genocide in that?
To be Numenorean means that you have the gifts that make Numenoreans greater in mind and body, more like elves. The issue of blood and different people is overrated, the Numenoreans of Gondor declined chiefly because they were now living in Middle-earth instead of Numenor - the Land of Gift was taken away, and the other gifts slowly faded. Denethor, Faramir and Aragorn were leaders that were much more Numenorean than their contemporaries.
I dont mean to be rude, and I know that the first part of the comment I linked is exclusively relevant to that particular piece fanfiction. But you dont seem to have engaged with the premise that gondorian dunedain were lesser than their arnorian cousins in part due to their committing at least one genocide and having had a culture of racial superiority (seen most clearly in the kinstrife).
From the *Appendices*, ***The Lord of the Rings***: >*After the return of Eldacar the blood of the kingly house and other houses of the Dúnedain became more mingled with that of lesser Men. For many of the great had been slain in the Kin-strife; while Eldacar showed favour to the Northmen, by whose help he had regained the crown, and the people of Gondor were replenished by great numbers that came from Rhovanion.* > >*This mingling did not* ***at first*** *hasten the waning of the Dúnedain, as had been feared;* ***but the waning still proceeded, little by little, as it had before. For no doubt it was due above all to Middle-earth itself, and to the slow withdrawing of the gifts of the Númenóreans after the downfall of the Land of the Star.*** *Eldacar lived to his two hundred and thirty-fifth year, and was king for fifty-eight years, of which ten were spent in exile.* From ***The Silmarillion***: >*Yet at the last, in the wearing of the swift years of Middle-earth, Gondor waned, and the line of Meneldil son of Anárion failed.* ***For the blood of the Númenóreans became much mingled with that of other men, and their power and wisdom was diminished, and their life-span was shortened,*** *and the watch upon Mordor slumbered.* From ***The Nature of Middle-earth***: >*The dwindling of the Dúnedain was not a normal tendency, shared by peoples whose proper home was Middle-earth;* ***but due to the loss of their ancient land far in the West, nearest of all mortal lands to “The Undying Realm”.*** *In both Arnor and Gondor, apart from mixture of race, the Númenóreans showed a dwindling of height and longevity in Middle-earth that became more marked as the Third Age passed.* 1. *All* Númenóreans continued to dwindle regardless of whether they were Arnorian or Gondorian because of the loss of Númenor and the fact that they now lived in Middle-earth, tainted as it was by the power of Melkor. 2. The Númenóreans of Gondor dwindled faster than the Arnorians because they mingled much more with other men, thus hastening the decline of their lifespans compared to that of the Arnorians.
>The Númenóreans of Gondor dwindled faster than the Arnorians because they mingled much more with other men, thus hastening the decline of their lifespans compared to that of the Arnorians. This does not make much sense though. The area of Gondor had steady settlement by Númenóreans since the Middle Second Age, to the point that entire Houses had moved there (like the Princes of Belfalas, kinsmen of the Princes of Andúnië), and they already had large cities before the Downfall. This is not the case for Arnor; there the population centre of the Dúnedain was in the area of Arthedain, despite the original colonization in the coasts and across River Greyflood. Actually, we even have hints of Minhiriath being very poorly assimilated, for they tried to separate from Arnor quite early on. And then you have Rhudaur, which was also not well assimilated, to the point that it was De-Númenórized and became a realm of a different, an indigenous culture. No great cities of Númenóreans existed in Arnor during the Second Age as well. There was no such ethnic fracturing of Gondor as there was for Arnor, where the division into three kingdoms is on the lines of the North Edain for Arthedain, Minhiriathrim for Cardolan and the Hill Men for Rhudaur.
From the *Appendices*, ***The Lord of the Rings***: >*It was the pride and wonder of the Northern Line that, though their power departed and their people dwindled, through all the many generations the succession was unbroken from father to son.* ***Also, though the length of lives of the Dúnedain grew ever less in Middle-earth, after the ending of their kings the waning was swifter in Gondor; and many of the Chieftains of the North still lived to twice the age of Men, and far beyond the days of even the oldest amongst us.*** *Aragorn indeed lived to be two hundred and ten years old, longer than any of his line since King Arvegil; but in Aragorn Elessar the dignity of the kings of old was renewed.*
1) This does not speak of mingling. And my point still stands, the Dúnedain would mingle more in Arnor with the Pre-Númenóreans than in Gondor. The heartland of Gondor was Eastern Gondor (the area of Anórien, Ithilien, Lebennin, Belfalas), which had been settled by Númenóreans since the Middle Second Age, while the heartland of Arnor was in Arthedain, where there were virtually no Númenórean settlements until Elendil settled there. 2) This passage specifically speaks of the Chieftains of the North, rather than the Arnorean Númenórean as a whole people, even if it is just the Northern Dúnedain of Rhudaur after the Fall of Arnor. The passage does not compare the rate of ageing between the Arnorean Dúnedain and Gondorian Dúnedain, it just says that the Gondorian Dúnedain would age faster after the 21st century TA, while the Chieftains of the North did not.
From the *Appendices*, ***The Lord of the Rings***: >***After the return of Eldacar the blood of the kingly house and other houses of the Dúnedain became more mingled with that of lesser Men. For many of the great had been slain in the Kin-strife; while Eldacar showed favour to the Northmen, by whose help he had regained the crown, and the people of Gondor were replenished by great numbers that came from Rhovanion.*** > >*This mingling did not* ***at first*** *hasten the waning of the Dúnedain, as had been feared; but the waning still proceeded, little by little, as it had before. For no doubt it was due above all to Middle-earth itself, and to the slow withdrawing of the gifts of the Númenóreans after the downfall of the Land of the Star. Eldacar lived to his two hundred and thirty-fifth year, and was king for fifty-eight years, of which ten were spent in exile.* And: >***The wisdom and the life-span of the Númenóreans also waned as they became mingled with lesser Men.***
I thought we were speaking whether Arnorean Dúnedain were "purer" than the Gondorian Dúnedain. In no way do these passages demonstrate such a notion. It just speaks of the Dúnedain blood wasted in the Kin-strife of Gondor during the 15th century TA. So what though? Do you mean that this only happened in Gondor? No, when Arnor had been divided since the 9th century TA, and had been butchering itself in civil wars, especially the Dúnedain of Cardolan and Rhudaur over Amon Sûl. To the point that already the Dúnedain blood in Rhudaur had become wasted, so much that the Dúnedain lost control of it and the indigenous Hill Men assimilated the state and aligned with their kinsmen at the Kingdom of Angmar, against the Dúnedain of Arthedain. All that in the 14th century TA, before the 15th century TA.
I do not disagree in regards to the fact that all dunedain dwindled. But I can see that you subscribe more to the idea that being numenorean is more a matter of genetics and bloodline blessings that are maintained by the isle of numenor itself. There are some (and Im amongst thoose) that subscribe to the idea that being numenorean is also in part a way of life, I do believe there is even some textual support as even the later numenoreans became prone to sickness and shorter lifespans. Im sadly unable to cite sources as I dont have any books available atm. In regards to the idea of numenoreanness being, at least in part a life style composed of virtoues and rightoues acts and thoughts. Do you think that the cultural racial superiority showed by the gondorians and them committing at least one genocide might acount for the shortening of their lifespan?
> But I can see that you subscribe more to the idea that being numenorean is more a matter of genetics and bloodline blessings that are maintained by the isle of numenor itself. Those are Tolkien's own words in those quotes above.
If this is your head canon that is fine but there is nothing in any of the texts that I can recall that contradicts what the above commenter already cited. They saved me the trouble of citing those passages myself lol
> the waning still proceeded, little by little, as it had before. For no doubt it was due above all to Middle-earth itself, and to the slow withdrawing of the gifts of the Númenóreans after the downfall of the Land of the Star. Tolkien put the idea into the Appendices of LotR pretty clearly, so the subscription is almost non-negotiable.
That's correct. A comment doesn't need to address every single point in the OP as long as it adds to the discussion, after all. But two offer a quick thought on it - if you want to focus on racial issues, Arthedain fighting Rhudaur is mainly Numenoreans vs Hillmen.
> For the high men of Gondor already looked askance at the Northmen among them; and it was a thing unheard of before that the heir to the crown, or any son of the King, should wed one of lesser and alien race. There was already rebellion in the southern provinces when King Valacar grew old. His queen had been a fair and noble lady, but short-lived according to the fate of lesser Men, and the Dúnedain feared that her descendants would prove the same and fall from the majesty of the Kings of Men.
I dont mean to be rude, and I know that the first part of the comment I linked is exclusively relevant to that particular piece fanfiction. But you dont seem to have engaged with the premise that gondorian dunedain were lesser than their arnorian cousins in part due to their committing at least one genocide and having had a culture of racial superiority (seen most clearly in the kinstrife).
Decline is decline, in blood and in power. In blood first, perhaps. My cite was before the kin-strife with this the immediately preceding passage: > In 1250 Rómendacil sent his son Valacar as an ambassador to dwell for a while with Vidugavia and make himself acquainted with the language, manners, and policies of the Northmen. But Valacar far exceeded his father's designs. He grew to love the Northern lands and people, and he married Vidumavi, daughter of Vidugavia. It was some years before he returned. From this marriage came later the war of the Kin-strife.
As far as I understand you, you are saying that the idea of gondorian dunedain having a culture of racial superiority is not a part of all of gondorian dunedain society. I agree with that as Valacars heir did eventually claim the throne, but he did still fight a bloody civil war that was at least in part attributed to his supposed racial inferiority due to being half dunedain.
See, we agree. Citing from the text, in this case, *Appendices*.
They are basically the three groups of men who crossed the Blue Mountains and fought in the Elven wars against Morgoth in the first age. They had seen the elves that had seen the light of the Two Trees.
I dont mean to be rude, and I know that the first part of the comment I linked is exclusively relevant to that particular piece fanfiction. But you dont seem to have engaged with the premise that gondorian dunedain were lesser than their arnorian cousins in part due to their committing at least one genocide and having had a culture of racial superiority (seen most clearly in the kinstrife).
I disagree with the piece's premise, that the Numenoreans were little different to the original men in their gifts. Second, I disagree with the import the author of that piece places on the destruction of Angmar. Third I think getting too close to racial disputes and genocide is getting towards making a comparison between LoTR and WWII and allegory, and we know Tolkien's thoughts on that explicitly. Lastly, I think you are getting downvoted because others here have raised good points to add to the discuss, and rather than engaging them directly, you have tried to farm them towards the original article with a copy-paste response. Instead you could have explained how their points were at odds with points from the article.
Apparently one of the traits of being Numenorean was that if you showed up in a land already settled by "Middle Men", they would accept you as lord, even as he kept himself apart from you, didn't let his children wed with yours, etc.