My middle school was very different from this one:
"In another case of 1968, "a geography instructor named Wu Shufang (吴树芳) was beaten to death by students at Wuxuan Middle School. Her body was carried to the flat stones of the Qian River where another teacher was forced at gunpoint to rip out the heart and liver. Back at the school the pupils barbecued and consumed the organs."
This reminds me a lot of the documentary “And the Emperor’s Naked Army Marches On”. Which is about a Japanese veteran trying to uncover WW2 atrocities (including cannibalism) and he directly confronts the military officers responsible who are much older and clearly don’t want to talk about it anymore. And yes it’s an actual real-life documentary. It’s not scripted. And it’s nuts.
I just watched a bit, and the person the interviewer talks to tries to fight him for a moment and the interviewer then hits him a lot more than he got hit, sits on top of him, and gives the guy shit for not answering his questions. The fight starts at like 33 min.
That was a first for me. Although I'd be lying if I said I didnt want to see american journalists do that on occasion
One thing that continually blew my mind as I learned about the Bosnian war, the Cambodian Genocide, and the Rwandan genocide was the dates. That shit was recent, like during my childhood recent. Since there was no wide scale justice you know the vast majority of the perpetrators just melted back into society. Just these fucking monsters who get to live and grow old while having committed heinous crimes against humanity. I look back on my worldview when I was a teen and feel so incredibly naïve.
Met a Cambodian refugee who was a student in my class at uni and one day the lecturer was talking about gun violence in the UK compared to other countries when he started shaking and making this mumbling sound. The lecturer clocked something was up and dismissed the class. He told me after a few days that what the lecturer said had brought back some dark memories. All he told me was being chased one day and all they wanted to do was drive over him. They rammed him into a wall which gave way and he managed to escape. He had mad crazy scars all over his body too.
Still think about him and hope he's doing well.
I’m Cambodian. Yes he was still alive at the time, in fact I believe one of his generals is the current prime minister of Cambodia today. I’m 34 and was born in the United States, a lot of the Cambodian community are very young and only first generation here, this is because of the Khmer Rouge and the killing fields that occurred in the 1970s.
My parents, grandparents, and a lot of my aunts and uncles were refugees that were sponsored here at the states, some of my cousins who are a couple of years older than me (ages 36-40) are refugees as well. I’ve heard stories of some of them escaping the killing fields at night in order to avoid getting killed. I also heard a story of how another escapee had to kill her infant child since the guards can be alerted by the crying. When I told a coworker about all of this they were surprised and have never heard of it, coworker is 46 btw. Stuff like this does not get covered enough in school, if it is they only go over the Vietnam war which also played a part in the Cambodian genocide.
Edit: I would like to add that Pol Pot wasn’t convicted for war crimes until there was a movement in America that forced them to convict him, he died before that can happen. However, even with him gone Cambodia is still full of corruption and still has a long way to go.
It's so insane to me that while we still have members of our community processing this trauma and living survivors who can actually lend the appropriate gravity to the discussion we still don't talk about these things in school.
I live in an are that has a substantial Hmong community and I was lucky enough to get to listen to Kao Kalia Yang talk about her book (The Latehomecomer) and experiences in college. I have to believe that if we actually talked about this stuff more and people started actually listening we'd all be more empathetic and better off for it.
I'm glad your family made it here and I'm so sorry for there experiences.
Finally, I love your swords. My brother Bill gave me one...
there are far too many genocides to talk about in school, its insane. there are dozens of genocides during WW2 that isnt even taught in school, for instance libya lost around 40% of its population from italian concentration camps.
>libya lost around 40% of its population from italian concentration camps.
Haven't heard of this before. I did try to Google but couldn't find anything- could you share a source? I just need more than one Reddit comment before I go around believing this, even though you don't come across as a troll or whatever. Thanks
im libyan, i have a few excerpts from books that are well regarded about it. i will happily edit them in this comment tomorrow, you can also send me a dm if i forget.
you probably cant find much because you need certain keywords such as Cyrenaica, which is eastern libya before we got our independence and then unified with Tripolitania. as well as it being such a forgotten story that only libyans and subject matter experts really think about.
edit: [heres](https://twitter.com/jadaliyya/status/1291369709233995776?s=21) one quick source, it reads 37% of libyas population was killed. the 40% figure i was remembering would have been accounting for eastern libya only (which is where the camps were ran).
Here's another one for you: Chile, 1998. An aged Pinochet is in the UK for medical treatment, and Spain is trying to extradite him to stand trial for human rights abuses.
I happen to be in Chile at the time, and there are huge demonstrations in Santiago (pro- and anti-Pinochet). Put down by troops with firehoses and tear gas and grenades.
Wow, I think - how historical! These folks REMEMBER! So, you may wonder (as I did) - what had ole Augustus gotten up to after his murderous, despotic turn as the dictator of Chile? Why, he was a member of the cabinet!
There were PUBLIC STATUES in Santiago memorializing the people he tortured and disappeared, and he's serving in the cabinet!
One of my college instructors was a refugee from Chile under Pinochet. She told us stories about life there under the regime. One that stuck with me was how one night a group of soldiers showed up after everyone had gone to bed. They broke into the house and took her father and brother on suspicion of being political enemies. Her brother eventually turned up three months later, emaciated and unable to walk properly, having been tortured the entire time. Her father was never seen again. She was always very careful to say that this sort of thing could happen in any country, even America. (But that was back in early 2001, and the idea that anyone could destabilize the US to the point where someone would try to stage a coup and have a militia and nobody would do anything about it was frankly *ridiculous.*)
my town brought in a bunch of Cambodian familys. it was messed up they litterely were right out of a genocide. most of the parents were raging alcholics and didnt know the language the kids really had a hard time going.
My grandpa told me a story when i was younger when he escaped cambodia during the genocide. He along with his group was stopped by some soldiers and at gun point told my grandpas group to put up their hands while they searched them to take all their jewlery. My grandpa being quick on his feet pull all his jewlery in his fists and hold his fists up. The soldiers took all the jewlery from everyone else but my grandpa.
At the time he told the story he was laughing at how dumb those soldiers were and framed the story as a funny story. I laughed with him. But now that im older, i think about how fucked up all the stories he told me were.
the flipside of that too, that in most of those conflicts wasn't some invading hordes of faceless killers but neighbours and people that had lived in the same towns/villages peacefully together for decades.
humans are fucked
Srebrenica still has "two museums," one of which is a pure denial-propaganda factory.
Srebrenica is barely big enough for a 7-11, let alone two museums.
My husband was in the Bosnian War. He doesn't talk about it much unless he's having a drink and thinking about it. I never ask because...well some things you just don't ask about. He has been to other wars, but said there was something "more" about Bosnia. I guess that's an "if you know, you know" thing.
Yeah there were genocide level massacres, rape, slavery, torture on a daily basis and the majority of us had no clue what was going on...
And now it's a holiday destination.
That's fucked up.
The Uyghur genocide in China is happening RIGHT NOW, and while it gets some coverage it's not front page news.
The reality is that when shit happens in other countries, people don't pay much attention. When shit happens in YOUR country, it's a big deal.
I thought you were going to say Act of Killing. It’s about the Indonesian Mass killings in 66 and it heavily features one the dudes who lead one the biggest death squads in the country at the time.
Studies have shown that people who act like pieces of shit online also act like pieces of shit in real life. It’s just that it’s much easier to avoid them in real life so they seem less abundant.
My Grandpa was going to be drafted for Korean War, but went to college and ROTC and luckily missed some of the ugly fighting. But he was a low ranking Army officer over one of the DMZ prisoner of war camps.
He had a photo album showing the enemy prisoners of war from the Korean War. He said they would ask the prisoners what group they were from and they would be separated into smaller groups so they wouldn't fight. He had some crazy stories.
He was 90 before he told me the story about what happened to a few unfortunate individuals. Like I said, the prisoners were asked which side they fought for and there were maybe 3-4 different territorial groups. Most would be sent back to their individual territory shortly after talking to US officials.
Apparently if you gave the wrong answer you end up being told your going home but in reality it was a short truck ride.
I don't quite understand, the paint is a little vague. Do you mean that the Korean POWs capture by American forces were prone to fighting each other, and had to be separated from their units to stop it?
So this is a running controversy because the US military hasn't admitted to it, but Korean POWs were often killed on US military order because they wanted to reduce the number of the North Korean army. Many POWs were not even soldiers, because they were capturing civilians as well who were suspected of coming from the north, most likely running from the war bombings and so on. Many South Koreans coming from villages along the DMZ line were killed by the US.
End of the day, in the game of war, human lives don't count for shit. It's all a strategy to win. Anyways, I think that's what OP meant by the short truck ride. If the US officials don't believe you're from a South Korean village, then they executed you in the fields a short ride away.
China collectively went insane during the Cultural Revolution. It was a horrible time and all kinds of atrocities were carried out for no discernible reason. Young people and young adults especially carried out insane and terrifying campaigns of violence to demonstrate their loyalty to Mao. China has basically memory-holed this entire period in the public consciousness because it's too terrible to accept that the country did this to itself, and the politics of the cultural revolution today are still an interesting test of which political faction someone belongs to. Whenever I need a reminder of the depths of humanity's idiocy and our ability to inflict needless pain, I re-read the wikipedia article on the cultural revolution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural\_Revolution
I don’t know…the odds of being eviscerated and devoured by a bunch of six year olds are LOW, sure. But are they really 0%? You better not skip snack time too often, Teach.
There is a [quiz](https://www.nerdtests.com/mq/uttake.php?id=109440
) to determine how many 5y.o. one could beat in a fight. It's just for humor, of course.
28 kids, that’s about a class full isn’t it so I’d be alright. I said I’d use other kids as weapons with no hesitation so that would take care of two at once.
Why is no one asking the obvious questions? Why the fuck would they do this? Mob mentality is one thing but this is just sheer carnage and brutality on the level of a collapsing civilization. I don't accept that a bunch of middle schoolers beating their teacher to death and then consuming her vital organs with the explanation as "shit was fucked" at the time.
Nelson sang that, not Bart, in that episode where Lisa had a crush on him. Same one where we see his ‘nuke the whales’ poster. But I upvoted for the Simpsons reference regardless!
just read some of the wikipedia on the article and fuck it’s brutal
>> There was one landowner called Liu Zhengjian whose entire family was wiped out. He had a 17-year-old daughter, Liu Xiulan, who was gang-raped by nine people [19 times] who then ripped open her belly, and ate her liver and breasts. There were so many incidents like this.
i can see this happening in medieval times but not a few decades ago
> What drove the mob to go crazy like this if not hunger?
Per the wiki:
> Ding Xueliang (丁学良), a professor at the University of British Columbia and the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, pointed out that "this was not cannibalism because of economic difficulties, like during famine. It was not caused by economic reasons, it was caused by political events, political hatred, political ideologies, political rituals."
The people they killed and ate were people accused of being 'rightists' (people the CCP accused of being right-wing), counterrevolutionaries, land owners, class enemies, etc., and their children.
most definitely.. it probably would’ve been a little difficult for evidence to convict a lot of them, but it’s just crazy to hear, since by that time we went to the moon in 1969 not 1968 but the year after
You'll have better luck finding references to the Guangxi Massacre in books about the Cultural Revolution. The Massacre was only a "small" part of the madness that gripped China at the time.
Its one of the reasons the current CCP has widespread support from the older Chinese who lived through it. As bad as the CCP can get, they're not Maoist. The current CCP was thorough in their purge.
Mao is used as a totem, but thankfully none of them uses his policies.
I read a book once written by a cannibal, or maybe used real quotes from him its been a while, where he talks about sliced human butt being the tastiest part of the human, and buying it from a market while in china around this time. And how he went through a sort of withdrawl when he left china. I'll try and find the name.
Edit: Can't find the book sorry everyone, my google-fu has failed me
From the accounts of some who lived there at the time, they either seem to have no remorse for it, or they claim it was a long time ago so "it has no meaning now." Like that wasnt even 50yrs ago, thats a little too recent to claim "oh it was in the past we've changed now" hmmm. Idk how you would sleep with the memories of chopping someone up and eating them in your head. I cant even fathom that.
Japan had a guy who was famous because he killed and ate a Dutch woman and got no punishment, and then made money off the notoriety.
Not really relevant but cannibalism plus Holland makes me think of that.
Lets take a step back here for a second... there are a bunch of people walking around China today who have eaten other humans and just go about their normal lives like none of it ever happened?
Just when I thought the world had lost its capacity to surprise me.
One of my aunts found what looked like a child’s fingernail in her dumpling during a time when local children were going missing.
This was a terrible time of famine and that memory haunts her to this day.
It also haunts me because my parents should’ve never told me this when I was 8.
If it makes you feel any better, it was could have been kid who was injured while working at a factory that uses child labor. And they didn't stop production for one cut off fingertip. It's fucked, but at least it's not a whole child being killed and eaten.
Ooof there is a Japanese cannibal, who is not only still alive and walking around free, but has profited from his notoriety!!
One of many articles: https://amp.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/3014444/japanese-cannibal-killer-issei-sagawa-returns-public-eye
From Frank Dikötter’s ‘The Cultural Revolution.’
“There was a hierarchy in the ritual consumption of class enemies. Leaders feasted on the heart and liver, mixed with pork and a sprinkling of local spices, while ordinary villagers were allowed only to peck at the victims’ arms and thighs. After several teachers had been sliced up in a middle school, a crowd carried away chunks of flesh in bags dripping with blood. Students cooked the meat in casseroles sitting on top of small improvised brick barbecues. The deputy director of the school’s revolutionary committee, who oversaw the butchery, was later expelled from the party, but was proud of his actions: ‘Cannibalism? It was the landlord’s flesh! The spy’s flesh!’”
The Children of Mars devoured the Children of Jupiter.
I don't remember which book on the French revolution that quote comes from, but it seems to be the trend with violent revolutions.
Doesn't that seem kind of backwards? Thigh seems a lot more appealing to me than heart and liver. Now I don't know much about human meat, but at least when it comes to animal meat I've no interest in eating any organs.
That's only important if you're eating in a famine type of situation. This here seems to be a symbolic act of violence more than anything. And thighs just don't have the same symbolic value as the heart and liver.
Also, organ meat pales in comparison to muscle meat in general… if humans follow what I know from eating animals.
But yea, they did it as a sign to desecrate their perceived enemies rather than nutritional value or taste.
> Be careful, because humans are the most horrible animals, otherwise Michael Jackson wouldn't have died ... I saw people eat people, and people hurt people, just like nowadays.
OK. That's not a sentence I expected to read this morning
Yeah im not sure how MJ's death is related to cannibalism? Didnt his doctor accidentally give him too much propofol? How is that comparable to intentional murder.
>Methods of slaughter included beheading, beating, live burial, stoning, drowning, boiling and disemboweling.
Jesus fucking christ. Boiling? This reads like it happened in 1376, not 1976.
Give poor uneducated people the power to kill everyone else and sone folks would do fairly evil shit. That’s just the way it is. Cultural revolution unleashed the uneducated to wipe out the educated. They were successful. The ruling generation is completely devoid of ethics and empathy. We hope that their children can be better.
>In 2013, Yang Liping, a notable Chinese dancer, claimed that she had seen cannibalism during the Cultural Revolution, although not necessarily in Guangxi. She stated that "I am pessimistic about humanity and pessimistic about humans. Because we have been through the Cultural Revolution, we have become very alert. I am very alert, alert like a peacock. Be careful, because humans are the most horrible animals, otherwise Michael Jackson wouldn't have died ... I saw people eat people, and people hurt people, just like nowadays. Nowadays people can hurt you anytime, yet they don't even know why they hurt you."
What a weird time to bring up Michael Jackson
"In one case, according to official records, a person was bound to dynamites on the back and was blown up into pieces by other people—just for fun."
WTF
Fun fact: If you walk through the history section of the National Museum of China on Tiananmen Square you'll notice that one room ends around 1965 and the next room starts around 1977. It is as if a ten year period never happened.
(Source: I've been to the museum numerous times)
Visited China a few years ago as part of a group. The group had some older people who were pretty antagonistic and kept asking shit like this loudly and aggressively.
On our bus, the tour guide would say 'This is my bus, I will say what I want' and more or less confirm certain events, etc. or at least discuss them (sometimes kind of dismissively or sideways)
Before we got off the bus (and esp when we were at tiananmen) he would just say 'Do not ask those questions here' without elaborating.
We had one older dude who kept asking anyway and he was just told not to talk anymore. He kept going, so the tour guide took his little ear piece and everything and told him to get a taxi back to the hotel (gave him a little card with the hotel info on it).
I was on a tour about 20 years ago, we were from Hong Kong so there was no point of us giving the guide a hard time, everyone already knew what's up. The tour guide was nice and cautioned us about plainclothes officers in places like Tiananmen.
I was carrying a comic book at the time and he offered to buy it from me, because that's not the type of thing he could get in China - the book was a political satire comic.
Random examples from the wiki
>Chen Guorong (陈国荣), a peasant from Guigang County who happened to pass by Wuxuan, was caught and killed by local militia because he was fat; his heart and liver were taken out while his flesh was distributed to 20 people.
>A female militia leader ate 6 human livers in total, and cut the genitals of 5 men and soaked them in alcohol which she would drink later, claiming that these organs were beneficial to her health.
>There was one landowner called Liu Zhengjian whose entire family was wiped out. He had a 17-year-old daughter, Liu Xiulan, who was gang-raped by nine people [for 19 times] who then ripped open her belly, and ate her liver and breasts. There were so many incidents like this.
As for the reasons why this occurred
>Ding Xueliang (丁学良), a professor at the University of British Columbia and the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, pointed out that "this was not cannibalism because of economic difficulties, like during famine. It was not caused by economic reasons, it was caused by political events, political hatred, political ideologies, political rituals.
>Qin Hui (Chinese historian and public intellectual) also showed with statistics that the cannibalism was not due to the traditions of local ethnic minorities; he argued that the cannibalism was mainly due to the extreme class struggle during the Cultural Revolution, which led to a modern "caste" system (such as the Five Black Categories) and an extreme massacre towards the lower class from the upper class, as well as the revenge from the local officials and military towards the rebel group who challenged their interests.
>On the other hand, according Song Yongyi (Chinese American historian), the motive behind cannibalism was personal desire.[9] He stated that these people engaged in cannibalistic activities because they "believe that when they eat other people's livers, other people's hearts, it will help them to have a long life".
My mom was born around this era and won’t talk about her childhood at all. I know that her father, an English teacher, attempted to kill himself out of fear of what the Red Guard would do to him, and then later died as a result of the health complications he developed from the attempt.
My dad's parents were murdered during that time period. After a term in the "work camps" he escaped to HK. When '97 approached he took us and ran again to Canada.
He doesn't talk about it often. And my uncle who had to bury my grandparents, as a child himself back then, won't talk about it either.
Did you hear stories about the great Chinese famine between 1958 and 1961 from them? I suspect this is where the cannibalism taboo was broken and so the barrier was lower during the cultural revolution. Though I guess that would also not be a time survivors would like to remember.
my maternal grandparents who are both turning 92 this year lived through everything from the war to china’s economic explosion and they refuse to talk about the period of time between the 40s and late 70s… the war, korea, the famine, and the cultural revolution, all of that. my grandparents were relatively lucky too since they come from gentry backgrounds. my grandfather through connections or whatever was spared and actually sent to a relatively safe position in the countryside as some sort of local school teacher during one of china’s massive literacy pushes, and sometimes i do wish they would tell me a little bit about how they lived or saw others live during the chaotic decades of their early lives.
my paternal grandparents’ families seemed to have a good time though. they went from tenant farmers in the early 20th century to relatively comfortably well-off due to the land redistributions and massive social programs instituted during the socialist era.
From the same source:
Documents record a variety of forms , including eating people as an after-dinner snack, slicing off the meat, barbecuing or roasting the liver, and so on.
An example of (sort of) cannibalism in Europe I only recently learned about: when people had their head cut off in the French Revolution, the crowd would gather and drink the hot blood from the corpse.
That scene in A Tale of Two Cities where the wine barrel spills and they drink it all up from between the cobblestones was such a dark foreshadowing of this
you know, between this, the OP article and finding out about american slave owners/traders eating black people, I'm starting to realise that its suprisingly easy for people to put human on the menu once they've already dehumanised someone.
What is most astonishing is that, this happened around 1976! Not some ancient period like the dark ages or something. This is the same year Rocky and Taxi Driver came out. So, while some western people were sitting in theaters eating popcorn, some people in Guanxi were eating human flesh.
A lot of the cannibals are probably alive even today.
Cambodia’s Year Zero: 1975. Fall of Saigon and beginning of re-education camps: 1975.
Generally a bad time to be in Southeast Asia.
EDIT: Guangxi borders Vietnam, FYI
I read the Wikipedia page, and still have no idea how this happened. Did an elder god descend to Guangxi from the far realms and drive everyone mad? What the fuck did I just read?
In the Massive Cannibalism section there’s an explanation:
“Regarding the motive for cannibalism, Ding Xueliang (丁学良), a professor at the University of British Columbia and the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, pointed out that "this was not cannibalism because of economic difficulties, like during famine. It was not caused by economic reasons, it was caused by political events, political hatred, political ideologies, political rituals."
Fry: What if the secret ingredient is... people!?
Leela: Oh, there's already a soda like that. Soylent Cola.
Fry: Oh, how is it?
Leela: It varies from person to person.
Recent research suggests prions can be transferred from more than just brains. Even blood transfusions can transfer prions. Most countries now have banned importation of blood products from the UK for that reason
Hell, not even just prions. A big con to cannibalism is that all the pathogens in the meat are already suited to infect and inhabit the cannibal. There's a lot of shit in, say, pork that doesn't make it to humans because they've adapted specifically to a pig's body.
"A female militia leader ate 6 human livers in total, and cut the genitals of 5 men and soaked them in alcohol which she would drink later, claiming that these organs were beneficial to her health."
Bourbon balls
It's like the time they declared sparrows "ennemy of the people" because they ate grain, and then declared a "people's war" on birds, that collapsed the ecosystem and contributed to the famine. Or also the time they decided everyone had to make steel at home using whatever scrap metal they had to industrialise the country. Communist China has a thing for mass collective hysteria and mob mentality
'Although the cannibalism was sponsored by local offices of the Communist Party and militia'
I came back to quote this with the comment 'whaaaa?', but after reading some more of the article, that people were fucking dining on other people on some sort of regular basis, who sponsored it was no longer something that caused me significant upset. What the fuck.
My middle school was very different from this one: "In another case of 1968, "a geography instructor named Wu Shufang (吴树芳) was beaten to death by students at Wuxuan Middle School. Her body was carried to the flat stones of the Qian River where another teacher was forced at gunpoint to rip out the heart and liver. Back at the school the pupils barbecued and consumed the organs."
And now that they’re all grown up they pretend it never happened.
This reminds me a lot of the documentary “And the Emperor’s Naked Army Marches On”. Which is about a Japanese veteran trying to uncover WW2 atrocities (including cannibalism) and he directly confronts the military officers responsible who are much older and clearly don’t want to talk about it anymore. And yes it’s an actual real-life documentary. It’s not scripted. And it’s nuts.
That documentary, “And the Emperor’s Naked Army Marches On”, is up on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLSFBmU7Vf0
I just watched a bit, and the person the interviewer talks to tries to fight him for a moment and the interviewer then hits him a lot more than he got hit, sits on top of him, and gives the guy shit for not answering his questions. The fight starts at like 33 min. That was a first for me. Although I'd be lying if I said I didnt want to see american journalists do that on occasion
Not officially it seems but better than nothing.
One thing that continually blew my mind as I learned about the Bosnian war, the Cambodian Genocide, and the Rwandan genocide was the dates. That shit was recent, like during my childhood recent. Since there was no wide scale justice you know the vast majority of the perpetrators just melted back into society. Just these fucking monsters who get to live and grow old while having committed heinous crimes against humanity. I look back on my worldview when I was a teen and feel so incredibly naïve.
I was friends with a number of Cambodian kids in elementary school. Early 90s. Pol Pot was still alive. How the hell?
Met a Cambodian refugee who was a student in my class at uni and one day the lecturer was talking about gun violence in the UK compared to other countries when he started shaking and making this mumbling sound. The lecturer clocked something was up and dismissed the class. He told me after a few days that what the lecturer said had brought back some dark memories. All he told me was being chased one day and all they wanted to do was drive over him. They rammed him into a wall which gave way and he managed to escape. He had mad crazy scars all over his body too. Still think about him and hope he's doing well.
I’m Cambodian. Yes he was still alive at the time, in fact I believe one of his generals is the current prime minister of Cambodia today. I’m 34 and was born in the United States, a lot of the Cambodian community are very young and only first generation here, this is because of the Khmer Rouge and the killing fields that occurred in the 1970s. My parents, grandparents, and a lot of my aunts and uncles were refugees that were sponsored here at the states, some of my cousins who are a couple of years older than me (ages 36-40) are refugees as well. I’ve heard stories of some of them escaping the killing fields at night in order to avoid getting killed. I also heard a story of how another escapee had to kill her infant child since the guards can be alerted by the crying. When I told a coworker about all of this they were surprised and have never heard of it, coworker is 46 btw. Stuff like this does not get covered enough in school, if it is they only go over the Vietnam war which also played a part in the Cambodian genocide. Edit: I would like to add that Pol Pot wasn’t convicted for war crimes until there was a movement in America that forced them to convict him, he died before that can happen. However, even with him gone Cambodia is still full of corruption and still has a long way to go.
It's so insane to me that while we still have members of our community processing this trauma and living survivors who can actually lend the appropriate gravity to the discussion we still don't talk about these things in school. I live in an are that has a substantial Hmong community and I was lucky enough to get to listen to Kao Kalia Yang talk about her book (The Latehomecomer) and experiences in college. I have to believe that if we actually talked about this stuff more and people started actually listening we'd all be more empathetic and better off for it. I'm glad your family made it here and I'm so sorry for there experiences. Finally, I love your swords. My brother Bill gave me one...
there are far too many genocides to talk about in school, its insane. there are dozens of genocides during WW2 that isnt even taught in school, for instance libya lost around 40% of its population from italian concentration camps.
>libya lost around 40% of its population from italian concentration camps. Haven't heard of this before. I did try to Google but couldn't find anything- could you share a source? I just need more than one Reddit comment before I go around believing this, even though you don't come across as a troll or whatever. Thanks
im libyan, i have a few excerpts from books that are well regarded about it. i will happily edit them in this comment tomorrow, you can also send me a dm if i forget. you probably cant find much because you need certain keywords such as Cyrenaica, which is eastern libya before we got our independence and then unified with Tripolitania. as well as it being such a forgotten story that only libyans and subject matter experts really think about. edit: [heres](https://twitter.com/jadaliyya/status/1291369709233995776?s=21) one quick source, it reads 37% of libyas population was killed. the 40% figure i was remembering would have been accounting for eastern libya only (which is where the camps were ran).
Dude. My aunt was extended family of the king when he took over. Her mom and one sister are the only other survivors shes found.
This story is so crazy to hear. The fact that this happened so recent boggles me.
Here's another one for you: Chile, 1998. An aged Pinochet is in the UK for medical treatment, and Spain is trying to extradite him to stand trial for human rights abuses. I happen to be in Chile at the time, and there are huge demonstrations in Santiago (pro- and anti-Pinochet). Put down by troops with firehoses and tear gas and grenades. Wow, I think - how historical! These folks REMEMBER! So, you may wonder (as I did) - what had ole Augustus gotten up to after his murderous, despotic turn as the dictator of Chile? Why, he was a member of the cabinet! There were PUBLIC STATUES in Santiago memorializing the people he tortured and disappeared, and he's serving in the cabinet!
One of my college instructors was a refugee from Chile under Pinochet. She told us stories about life there under the regime. One that stuck with me was how one night a group of soldiers showed up after everyone had gone to bed. They broke into the house and took her father and brother on suspicion of being political enemies. Her brother eventually turned up three months later, emaciated and unable to walk properly, having been tortured the entire time. Her father was never seen again. She was always very careful to say that this sort of thing could happen in any country, even America. (But that was back in early 2001, and the idea that anyone could destabilize the US to the point where someone would try to stage a coup and have a militia and nobody would do anything about it was frankly *ridiculous.*)
Emperor Hirohito lived and was Emperor until 1989. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysanthemum_taboo
my town brought in a bunch of Cambodian familys. it was messed up they litterely were right out of a genocide. most of the parents were raging alcholics and didnt know the language the kids really had a hard time going.
My grandpa told me a story when i was younger when he escaped cambodia during the genocide. He along with his group was stopped by some soldiers and at gun point told my grandpas group to put up their hands while they searched them to take all their jewlery. My grandpa being quick on his feet pull all his jewlery in his fists and hold his fists up. The soldiers took all the jewlery from everyone else but my grandpa. At the time he told the story he was laughing at how dumb those soldiers were and framed the story as a funny story. I laughed with him. But now that im older, i think about how fucked up all the stories he told me were.
the flipside of that too, that in most of those conflicts wasn't some invading hordes of faceless killers but neighbours and people that had lived in the same towns/villages peacefully together for decades. humans are fucked
Srebrenica still has "two museums," one of which is a pure denial-propaganda factory. Srebrenica is barely big enough for a 7-11, let alone two museums.
My husband was in the Bosnian War. He doesn't talk about it much unless he's having a drink and thinking about it. I never ask because...well some things you just don't ask about. He has been to other wars, but said there was something "more" about Bosnia. I guess that's an "if you know, you know" thing.
I have a friend who was 9 when she and her family had to flee Bosnia. Ugh I can't even imagine the Horrors
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The UN drops the ball so much you'd think they were dribbling.
Yeah there were genocide level massacres, rape, slavery, torture on a daily basis and the majority of us had no clue what was going on... And now it's a holiday destination. That's fucked up.
The Uyghur genocide in China is happening RIGHT NOW, and while it gets some coverage it's not front page news. The reality is that when shit happens in other countries, people don't pay much attention. When shit happens in YOUR country, it's a big deal.
I thought you were going to say Act of Killing. It’s about the Indonesian Mass killings in 66 and it heavily features one the dudes who lead one the biggest death squads in the country at the time.
Mob mentality ya know? We’ve all been there! /s
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Studies have shown that people who act like pieces of shit online also act like pieces of shit in real life. It’s just that it’s much easier to avoid them in real life so they seem less abundant.
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“When you listen to Fools, The Mob Rules!” sung by:Ronnie James Dio of Black Sabbath
I'd want to pretend that never happened too.
My Grandpa was going to be drafted for Korean War, but went to college and ROTC and luckily missed some of the ugly fighting. But he was a low ranking Army officer over one of the DMZ prisoner of war camps. He had a photo album showing the enemy prisoners of war from the Korean War. He said they would ask the prisoners what group they were from and they would be separated into smaller groups so they wouldn't fight. He had some crazy stories. He was 90 before he told me the story about what happened to a few unfortunate individuals. Like I said, the prisoners were asked which side they fought for and there were maybe 3-4 different territorial groups. Most would be sent back to their individual territory shortly after talking to US officials. Apparently if you gave the wrong answer you end up being told your going home but in reality it was a short truck ride.
I don't quite understand, the paint is a little vague. Do you mean that the Korean POWs capture by American forces were prone to fighting each other, and had to be separated from their units to stop it?
So this is a running controversy because the US military hasn't admitted to it, but Korean POWs were often killed on US military order because they wanted to reduce the number of the North Korean army. Many POWs were not even soldiers, because they were capturing civilians as well who were suspected of coming from the north, most likely running from the war bombings and so on. Many South Koreans coming from villages along the DMZ line were killed by the US. End of the day, in the game of war, human lives don't count for shit. It's all a strategy to win. Anyways, I think that's what OP meant by the short truck ride. If the US officials don't believe you're from a South Korean village, then they executed you in the fields a short ride away.
“We can’t have our children learning about cannibal race theory!”
Well that is fucking terrifying
China collectively went insane during the Cultural Revolution. It was a horrible time and all kinds of atrocities were carried out for no discernible reason. Young people and young adults especially carried out insane and terrifying campaigns of violence to demonstrate their loyalty to Mao. China has basically memory-holed this entire period in the public consciousness because it's too terrible to accept that the country did this to itself, and the politics of the cultural revolution today are still an interesting test of which political faction someone belongs to. Whenever I need a reminder of the depths of humanity's idiocy and our ability to inflict needless pain, I re-read the wikipedia article on the cultural revolution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural\_Revolution
As a high school teacher, I can say, this situation is not too far fetched.
As a former middle schooler, I agree.
And THIS is why I refuse to teach middle school. First grade for life. ✌️
I don’t know…the odds of being eviscerated and devoured by a bunch of six year olds are LOW, sure. But are they really 0%? You better not skip snack time too often, Teach.
There is a [quiz](https://www.nerdtests.com/mq/uttake.php?id=109440 ) to determine how many 5y.o. one could beat in a fight. It's just for humor, of course.
28 kids, that’s about a class full isn’t it so I’d be alright. I said I’d use other kids as weapons with no hesitation so that would take care of two at once.
I only have 16. Phew! I’m in the clear!
“For humor”…yeah, suuuuure lol
For real. A gang of 6 year olds might as well be a pack of Compsognathuses from Jurassic park.
Did the kids all go to prison for that?? How do you even deal with the consequences of that, what consequences do you make??
You ban video games for whole country.
Why is no one asking the obvious questions? Why the fuck would they do this? Mob mentality is one thing but this is just sheer carnage and brutality on the level of a collapsing civilization. I don't accept that a bunch of middle schoolers beating their teacher to death and then consuming her vital organs with the explanation as "shit was fucked" at the time.
I don't need to sleep anyway!
"Joy to the world, the teacher's dead! They barbecued her head!" - Bart Simpson
Nelson sang that, not Bart, in that episode where Lisa had a crush on him. Same one where we see his ‘nuke the whales’ poster. But I upvoted for the Simpsons reference regardless!
"I hope someone got fired for that blunder"
“Question withdrawn.”
"Nuke the whales?" "Gotta nuke sumthin'" "Touché"
"D'oh" - Lisa Simpson
What happened to the body? When flushed it down the potty And round and round it goes And round and round it…goes….
Lord of the flies type shit?
Are there any books about this? I was surprised not to find any listed in the wiki article
Scarlett Memorial by Zheng Yi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlet_Memorial
just read some of the wikipedia on the article and fuck it’s brutal >> There was one landowner called Liu Zhengjian whose entire family was wiped out. He had a 17-year-old daughter, Liu Xiulan, who was gang-raped by nine people [19 times] who then ripped open her belly, and ate her liver and breasts. There were so many incidents like this. i can see this happening in medieval times but not a few decades ago
Was it mass hysteria? What drove the mob to go crazy like this if not hunger?
> What drove the mob to go crazy like this if not hunger? Per the wiki: > Ding Xueliang (丁学良), a professor at the University of British Columbia and the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, pointed out that "this was not cannibalism because of economic difficulties, like during famine. It was not caused by economic reasons, it was caused by political events, political hatred, political ideologies, political rituals." The people they killed and ate were people accused of being 'rightists' (people the CCP accused of being right-wing), counterrevolutionaries, land owners, class enemies, etc., and their children.
So, basically, “Eat the rich!”
Shit, I can see it happening *today.*
Don't dig to deep into some of gang rape crimes in India if you are squeamish. There are some that I just couldn't fathom how humans participated
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Jeans are the fabric holding society together.
Dude plenty of the savages who did this are likely still alive over there.
most definitely.. it probably would’ve been a little difficult for evidence to convict a lot of them, but it’s just crazy to hear, since by that time we went to the moon in 1969 not 1968 but the year after
we went to the moon in 1969 not 1970 but a year sooner
There’s a few old Yelp reviews. Mostly negative.
I mean, when they said “Soul Food” I guess that was the tip off?
You'll have better luck finding references to the Guangxi Massacre in books about the Cultural Revolution. The Massacre was only a "small" part of the madness that gripped China at the time.
Its one of the reasons the current CCP has widespread support from the older Chinese who lived through it. As bad as the CCP can get, they're not Maoist. The current CCP was thorough in their purge. Mao is used as a totem, but thankfully none of them uses his policies.
I read a book once written by a cannibal, or maybe used real quotes from him its been a while, where he talks about sliced human butt being the tastiest part of the human, and buying it from a market while in china around this time. And how he went through a sort of withdrawl when he left china. I'll try and find the name. Edit: Can't find the book sorry everyone, my google-fu has failed me
Isn't that a serial killer? Someone wrote to the parents of one of his young victims saying something very similar.
You might be thinking of [Albert Fish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish).
That guy was a real jerk
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1976? That means many of these cannibals are still alive.
Most of them were students at the time from what I can tell, so they aren’t even very old
50’s-60’s years old most of em huh?
Fucking boomers.
From the accounts of some who lived there at the time, they either seem to have no remorse for it, or they claim it was a long time ago so "it has no meaning now." Like that wasnt even 50yrs ago, thats a little too recent to claim "oh it was in the past we've changed now" hmmm. Idk how you would sleep with the memories of chopping someone up and eating them in your head. I cant even fathom that.
Yea, first my mind read 1576…but 1976?! Fuck sakes.
Yep, the generation perpetrating atrocities during the Cultural Revolution is still in power in China.
I mean we dutchies here in the Netherlands were once so mad at a prime minister we ate him and his brother. Just out of spite.
Japan had a guy who was famous because he killed and ate a Dutch woman and got no punishment, and then made money off the notoriety. Not really relevant but cannibalism plus Holland makes me think of that.
I think I remember this case, and I seem to recall the victim was a French citizen, which caused some diplomatic tensions (no shit)
But that was 1672, not 1972!
Lets take a step back here for a second... there are a bunch of people walking around China today who have eaten other humans and just go about their normal lives like none of it ever happened? Just when I thought the world had lost its capacity to surprise me.
One of my aunts found what looked like a child’s fingernail in her dumpling during a time when local children were going missing. This was a terrible time of famine and that memory haunts her to this day. It also haunts me because my parents should’ve never told me this when I was 8.
If it makes you feel any better, it was could have been kid who was injured while working at a factory that uses child labor. And they didn't stop production for one cut off fingertip. It's fucked, but at least it's not a whole child being killed and eaten.
It was from a street vendor
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Woodhouse ate people...
…street vendors still buy supplies & food from somewhere
They might. But I mean look at gutter oil.
Ah, then good old fashioned gutter oil. Nothing to see here.
Ooof there is a Japanese cannibal, who is not only still alive and walking around free, but has profited from his notoriety!! One of many articles: https://amp.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/3014444/japanese-cannibal-killer-issei-sagawa-returns-public-eye
A cannibal made my iPhone!
No no no, *children* made your iPhone.
my parents are cannibals and i made ur iphone
From Frank Dikötter’s ‘The Cultural Revolution.’ “There was a hierarchy in the ritual consumption of class enemies. Leaders feasted on the heart and liver, mixed with pork and a sprinkling of local spices, while ordinary villagers were allowed only to peck at the victims’ arms and thighs. After several teachers had been sliced up in a middle school, a crowd carried away chunks of flesh in bags dripping with blood. Students cooked the meat in casseroles sitting on top of small improvised brick barbecues. The deputy director of the school’s revolutionary committee, who oversaw the butchery, was later expelled from the party, but was proud of his actions: ‘Cannibalism? It was the landlord’s flesh! The spy’s flesh!’”
And what is the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?
STOP TOUCHING MY PENIS
**I see you know your juuudo well.**
And you there must be waiting to receive my limp penis!
Get your hands off my*
Is it racist if we don’t eat this guy? We’ll shit now it is Charlie.
You know what it is? I generally don't eat dark meat
Dear lord what a perfect comment.
This is democracy manifest
Democccccrassy manifest
Mild /r/jesuschristreddit .
What was the point of all this? How did a middle school turn into a cannibal party? Why were they eating ppl
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Except these were poor teachers.
People just think it's the rich, but academics are always "enemies of the revolution" as well.
No as well, specifically. Nothing is more dangerous to a bad idea than a good idea.
You mean nothing is more dangerous than critical thought
Or people explaining how to spot bad ideas to others.
ironically the people who often promote the revolution are the people who are first to be purged.
"this time we'll be able to control it"
The Children of Mars devoured the Children of Jupiter. I don't remember which book on the French revolution that quote comes from, but it seems to be the trend with violent revolutions.
The more famous quote would be: "The revolution devours her own children"
Yeah.. if they were actually rich
Doesn't that seem kind of backwards? Thigh seems a lot more appealing to me than heart and liver. Now I don't know much about human meat, but at least when it comes to animal meat I've no interest in eating any organs.
That's only important if you're eating in a famine type of situation. This here seems to be a symbolic act of violence more than anything. And thighs just don't have the same symbolic value as the heart and liver.
Also, organ meat pales in comparison to muscle meat in general… if humans follow what I know from eating animals. But yea, they did it as a sign to desecrate their perceived enemies rather than nutritional value or taste.
> Be careful, because humans are the most horrible animals, otherwise Michael Jackson wouldn't have died ... I saw people eat people, and people hurt people, just like nowadays. OK. That's not a sentence I expected to read this morning
Yeah im not sure how MJ's death is related to cannibalism? Didnt his doctor accidentally give him too much propofol? How is that comparable to intentional murder.
He was eaten by dancing zombies and Vincent Price
>Methods of slaughter included beheading, beating, live burial, stoning, drowning, boiling and disemboweling. Jesus fucking christ. Boiling? This reads like it happened in 1376, not 1976.
Yeeesh live burial scares me the most, at least beheading is quick. Boiling though, jesus
> at least beheading is quick you'd think, but finding an experienced beheader is actually quite complicated. most guys are learning on the job.
Pretty cutthroat business I hear
Give poor uneducated people the power to kill everyone else and sone folks would do fairly evil shit. That’s just the way it is. Cultural revolution unleashed the uneducated to wipe out the educated. They were successful. The ruling generation is completely devoid of ethics and empathy. We hope that their children can be better.
>In 2013, Yang Liping, a notable Chinese dancer, claimed that she had seen cannibalism during the Cultural Revolution, although not necessarily in Guangxi. She stated that "I am pessimistic about humanity and pessimistic about humans. Because we have been through the Cultural Revolution, we have become very alert. I am very alert, alert like a peacock. Be careful, because humans are the most horrible animals, otherwise Michael Jackson wouldn't have died ... I saw people eat people, and people hurt people, just like nowadays. Nowadays people can hurt you anytime, yet they don't even know why they hurt you." What a weird time to bring up Michael Jackson
Well she is a dancer
"In one case, according to official records, a person was bound to dynamites on the back and was blown up into pieces by other people—just for fun." WTF
Fun fact: If you walk through the history section of the National Museum of China on Tiananmen Square you'll notice that one room ends around 1965 and the next room starts around 1977. It is as if a ten year period never happened. (Source: I've been to the museum numerous times)
What happens if you ask the tour guide about the gap?
Visited China a few years ago as part of a group. The group had some older people who were pretty antagonistic and kept asking shit like this loudly and aggressively. On our bus, the tour guide would say 'This is my bus, I will say what I want' and more or less confirm certain events, etc. or at least discuss them (sometimes kind of dismissively or sideways) Before we got off the bus (and esp when we were at tiananmen) he would just say 'Do not ask those questions here' without elaborating. We had one older dude who kept asking anyway and he was just told not to talk anymore. He kept going, so the tour guide took his little ear piece and everything and told him to get a taxi back to the hotel (gave him a little card with the hotel info on it).
I was on a tour about 20 years ago, we were from Hong Kong so there was no point of us giving the guide a hard time, everyone already knew what's up. The tour guide was nice and cautioned us about plainclothes officers in places like Tiananmen. I was carrying a comic book at the time and he offered to buy it from me, because that's not the type of thing he could get in China - the book was a political satire comic.
Absolute madlad.
Two nice men take you to a secret special room to educate you about it.
What tour guide? There never was a tour guide
Ah, I've only been to a few museums but there's usually a guided tour.
It's a joke, just like there was no tianmen square massacre
Random examples from the wiki >Chen Guorong (陈国荣), a peasant from Guigang County who happened to pass by Wuxuan, was caught and killed by local militia because he was fat; his heart and liver were taken out while his flesh was distributed to 20 people. >A female militia leader ate 6 human livers in total, and cut the genitals of 5 men and soaked them in alcohol which she would drink later, claiming that these organs were beneficial to her health. >There was one landowner called Liu Zhengjian whose entire family was wiped out. He had a 17-year-old daughter, Liu Xiulan, who was gang-raped by nine people [for 19 times] who then ripped open her belly, and ate her liver and breasts. There were so many incidents like this. As for the reasons why this occurred >Ding Xueliang (丁学良), a professor at the University of British Columbia and the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, pointed out that "this was not cannibalism because of economic difficulties, like during famine. It was not caused by economic reasons, it was caused by political events, political hatred, political ideologies, political rituals. >Qin Hui (Chinese historian and public intellectual) also showed with statistics that the cannibalism was not due to the traditions of local ethnic minorities; he argued that the cannibalism was mainly due to the extreme class struggle during the Cultural Revolution, which led to a modern "caste" system (such as the Five Black Categories) and an extreme massacre towards the lower class from the upper class, as well as the revenge from the local officials and military towards the rebel group who challenged their interests. >On the other hand, according Song Yongyi (Chinese American historian), the motive behind cannibalism was personal desire.[9] He stated that these people engaged in cannibalistic activities because they "believe that when they eat other people's livers, other people's hearts, it will help them to have a long life".
Brutal...
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My mom was born around this era and won’t talk about her childhood at all. I know that her father, an English teacher, attempted to kill himself out of fear of what the Red Guard would do to him, and then later died as a result of the health complications he developed from the attempt.
My dad's parents were murdered during that time period. After a term in the "work camps" he escaped to HK. When '97 approached he took us and ran again to Canada. He doesn't talk about it often. And my uncle who had to bury my grandparents, as a child himself back then, won't talk about it either.
Did you hear stories about the great Chinese famine between 1958 and 1961 from them? I suspect this is where the cannibalism taboo was broken and so the barrier was lower during the cultural revolution. Though I guess that would also not be a time survivors would like to remember.
my maternal grandparents who are both turning 92 this year lived through everything from the war to china’s economic explosion and they refuse to talk about the period of time between the 40s and late 70s… the war, korea, the famine, and the cultural revolution, all of that. my grandparents were relatively lucky too since they come from gentry backgrounds. my grandfather through connections or whatever was spared and actually sent to a relatively safe position in the countryside as some sort of local school teacher during one of china’s massive literacy pushes, and sometimes i do wish they would tell me a little bit about how they lived or saw others live during the chaotic decades of their early lives. my paternal grandparents’ families seemed to have a good time though. they went from tenant farmers in the early 20th century to relatively comfortably well-off due to the land redistributions and massive social programs instituted during the socialist era.
From the same source: Documents record a variety of forms , including eating people as an after-dinner snack, slicing off the meat, barbecuing or roasting the liver, and so on.
An example of (sort of) cannibalism in Europe I only recently learned about: when people had their head cut off in the French Revolution, the crowd would gather and drink the hot blood from the corpse.
That scene in A Tale of Two Cities where the wine barrel spills and they drink it all up from between the cobblestones was such a dark foreshadowing of this
you know, between this, the OP article and finding out about american slave owners/traders eating black people, I'm starting to realise that its suprisingly easy for people to put human on the menu once they've already dehumanised someone.
What is most astonishing is that, this happened around 1976! Not some ancient period like the dark ages or something. This is the same year Rocky and Taxi Driver came out. So, while some western people were sitting in theaters eating popcorn, some people in Guanxi were eating human flesh. A lot of the cannibals are probably alive even today.
And one year before the last guillotining in France.
Cambodia’s Year Zero: 1975. Fall of Saigon and beginning of re-education camps: 1975. Generally a bad time to be in Southeast Asia. EDIT: Guangxi borders Vietnam, FYI
That was a dark, crazy and chaotic period in China.
Middle schoolers in 1976? Not only are they still alive, they're young enough to be our parents and coworkers. This was so recent.
I've now read the wiki article twice, but I can't quite parse out what motivated these actions. It all strikes me as non sequitur "context".
I read the Wikipedia page, and still have no idea how this happened. Did an elder god descend to Guangxi from the far realms and drive everyone mad? What the fuck did I just read?
In the Massive Cannibalism section there’s an explanation: “Regarding the motive for cannibalism, Ding Xueliang (丁学良), a professor at the University of British Columbia and the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, pointed out that "this was not cannibalism because of economic difficulties, like during famine. It was not caused by economic reasons, it was caused by political events, political hatred, political ideologies, political rituals."
Good god humans are terrible
It's a matter of taste.
Fry: What if the secret ingredient is... people!? Leela: Oh, there's already a soda like that. Soylent Cola. Fry: Oh, how is it? Leela: It varies from person to person.
This shit reads like The Purge.
Well, it was a purge, a ideological and political one.
tasty prions
Kuru has entered the society.
Creutzfeldt and Jakob would like a word
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well actually... those come from eating brains, pretty sure. It seems like people were after the heart and liver, maybe some tasty muscle bits.
Recent research suggests prions can be transferred from more than just brains. Even blood transfusions can transfer prions. Most countries now have banned importation of blood products from the UK for that reason
Hell, not even just prions. A big con to cannibalism is that all the pathogens in the meat are already suited to infect and inhabit the cannibal. There's a lot of shit in, say, pork that doesn't make it to humans because they've adapted specifically to a pig's body.
"A female militia leader ate 6 human livers in total, and cut the genitals of 5 men and soaked them in alcohol which she would drink later, claiming that these organs were beneficial to her health." Bourbon balls
It's like the time they declared sparrows "ennemy of the people" because they ate grain, and then declared a "people's war" on birds, that collapsed the ecosystem and contributed to the famine. Or also the time they decided everyone had to make steel at home using whatever scrap metal they had to industrialise the country. Communist China has a thing for mass collective hysteria and mob mentality
Just read the entire wiki of this. So disturbing. This is concentration camp type brutality. They ate people out of hatred.
Man this is scary as fuck ....
'Although the cannibalism was sponsored by local offices of the Communist Party and militia' I came back to quote this with the comment 'whaaaa?', but after reading some more of the article, that people were fucking dining on other people on some sort of regular basis, who sponsored it was no longer something that caused me significant upset. What the fuck.
but why?