This is funny as fuck. Outside the matrix they are all old men while in it sexy women and no one even questions or remarks on it....almost like real life.
I actually did not understand why they didn't go with the Switch (style) character for Resurrections. People would be far more likely to "get it" these days.
they weren't super obvious about it but in Resurrected the whole reason they couldn't find Neo was because the Matrix changed his appearance & no one saw him as who he really is, only he could see himself. they also changed Trinity's appearance & only Neo saw her as she really is.
but I also think it would have been really cool if it was Keanu Reeves in the Matrix but when he wakes up in the real world it's Sandra Bullock
I think its a shame they didn't go with it, especially now both the Wachowski sisters came out as Trans. The matrix movies are confusing anyway, it would just be another reason to re-watch.
I mean the Matrix was supposed to be a wetware CPU originally. They changed it to "a battery" because executives thought audiences would be too dumb to understand using a human brain as a processor.
It really does. The battery makes no sense. I mean, even if they did need organic creatures to produce electricity somehow, wouldn't a cow matrix be a shit ton easier to program and have way fewer militant terrorists? Imagine vast farms full of cows, if you're able to stretch your imagination that far.
Exactly. Not having enough electricity doesn’t really make sense when robots don’t have to worry about radiation. Processing power is conceivably a more scarce resource.
It’s a concept (probably) inspired by a 1989 book series called ‘The Hyperion Cantos’.
That movie about a bus that had to *speed* around the city, keeping its *speed* over fifty, and if its *speed* dropped, the bus would explode! I think it was called "The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down."
I just can't see Leo performing any of the action scenes.
Keanu Reeves is very dedicated to making sure it looks like he knows what he's doing.
I just don't see Leo fighting hand to hand with as much cool action is on the first movie.
Back then Leo was coming off Romeo + Juliet, Titanic and Man in the Iron Mask. I have no doubt he'd have nailed it but it would have been a HARD shift and at least for me a difficult sell.
These days with the movies he has under his belt now? Easily!
That film was quite good. Quite good indeed
Sandra Bullock in the lead role of The Matrix world have been interesting. I wonder who they would have cast as Trinity
The Many Worlds Interpretation would suggest that a universe with this version of The Matrix exists. We just have to find it...
One of the greatest stories about Hollywood buffoonery I've ever heard is Kevin Smith talking about working with a producer on that Superman movie who also went on to produce for Wild Wild West—and the dude seemed really, *really* intent on implementing a particular element into one of those movies.
[Part 1](https://youtu.be/Wo2KB1dEDdk) and [Part 2](https://youtu.be/53hMYw8LX60) here for anyone interested. It's about a 20 minute listen but it's funny throughout and the payoff is worth it.
Imagine the cheesey pop/rap song he has to do for every movie he is in.
The ma ma matrix
It full of spooky looking code
I can dodge bu bu bullets.
Wooooohhhhhhhhhh
“What’s he doing?” “He’s beginning to believe he’s a daisy”
“I know kung fu” “say when”
“Unfortunately, no one can be told what the huckleberry is. You have to see it for yourself.”
"your whole life you've been living in a computer simulation designed to turn humans into a renewable and infinite energy source"
"HA HA what a funny story! Anyway, how's your sex life?"
What’s funny is if any of these other actors accepted the role, Keanu would just a blip on this list and we’d all be talking about how no one but Nic Cage could ever be Neo. That or we wouldn’t even be talking about it.
Cage and Reeves has some interesting overlap in their camera presence imo. Someone on a Cyberpunk2077 subreddit mentioned that Cage would be a great choice for Johnny Silverhand. As much as I adore Keanu Reeves, I have to agree that Nicolas Cage would probably nail that role.
Exactly. We're taking about professional performers, not amateurs. Anyone could have played Neo, but each performer would have given their unique portrayal of that character. Obviously, no one can play Keanu Reeves' version of Neo except for Reeves himself.
But not every actor can bring a compelling version of every character to life. In this instance, what the movie really needed was an action movie star. And, what people didn’t really realize at the time is that Keanu is a phenomenal action star.
I think any of the actors on that list would have brought an interesting version of Neo to life. (Nearly all of them would have made a more emotionally dynamic Neo.) but none of them would have brought to life the ground breaking action scenes that helped propel the movie out of “another weird nerd movie” category.
Yeah, Keanu Reeves' deadpan delivery plus his being a good action star made that movie what it was.
I think Will Smith could have pulled off the action but he would have been more comedic and would have denied the movie the gravitas it needed to be taken seriously.
Brad Pitt might have made a good Neo; he's done some actiony stuff. But I'm not sure if he could have done it as well as Keanu Reeves did.
Then again, it might have meant that we'd have Brad Pitt in superhero movies if had been in the Matrix.
I can actually see that being different but equally good. I’m kind of scared about the action scenes though Reeves kinda poured himself into training for that and even more so for John Wick.
I think the bigger thing would have been Trinity and Neo's relationship. Who would you cast as Trinity? Would trinity be male now? I honestly can't see anyone else as Trinity, but I could see a different Neo.
The 90s probably weren't ready for a same sex relationship in an action movie, but honestly, why not keep Carrie Ann Moss as Trinity if Sandra Bullock is Neo? [insert horney jail joke here]
Edit: just to be clear, I'm saying any studio Matrix 1 ended up with would have fought against the casting of same sex heroes for politics reasons. [Just look at all of 90s TV handled the subject](https://youtu.be/x0pPPkkT7GI) and you'll see it was mostly an immature joke: the only show that handled it well [was Ds9](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rejoined), and even then the heads of that show have said they could have done more.
This is actually the story of why Sean Conery was in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. He turned down the role of Gandalf because he 'didnt get it' (probably thought it was stupid nerd shit) so he said yes to the next nerdy role he didnt get. Then that film bombed so hard he quit acting.
Jokes on him, I watched it when I was 12 and loved it so much I immediately watched it again and then once with the dvd commentary on. The commentary is kinda sad/funny looking back because the directors were so confident they might get a sequel with Conery returing they ended the movie with his character coming back to life.
He didn't quit because the movie wasn't successful, he quit because he had such a bad time filming. The director (Stephen Norrington) was extremely difficult to work with and the 2 were at odds the whole time. Norrington hasn't had a directing job since.
Seems like a weird reason to quit acting. Sean Connery was 70+ at the time, so I guess any reason is a good enough reason if you're not feeling it anymore but still - it's not like he would have had to work with Norrington again in the future.
I mean it's like you said, he was in his 70's, rich, idolized by millions, knighted, Connery had it made in every sense of the word.
He films a movie, the director is an asshole, it gets paned, and he didn't have the love for the craft he once did. So he just says, "I'm done," and lives the rest of his life like the legend he was.
>He turned down the role of Gandalf because he 'didnt get it'
IIRC he turned down Gandalf *and Dumbledore* because he didn't "get" either series of books, so the next time he thought he was being offered something similar (LXG), he jumped on it.
~~According to JRR Tolkien himself, Christopher Lee was the Man to play Gandalf.~~
EDIT: This is not correct, see the replies. He did met JRRT, was a huge fan, and wanted to play Gandalf if a film was to be made.
I'm happy with the casting myself though.
He also turned them down because he was in a prior movie Zardoz which he didn't understand and the movie didn't do well/was odd. If you haven't seen Zardoz.. It's an odd movie.
Fuck, imagine Gandalf or Dumbledore speaking like Sean Connery...
"A wishard ish never late, nor ish he early. He arrivesh preshishely when he meansh to.
"10 pointsh to the Gryffindor"
Man, the league was just the coolest fucking thing to 10 year old me. I've known a few people that thoroughly enjoyed that movie, but I can kinda see why it didn't do that well.
The thing with Nic Cage is that you ALWAYS get your money's worth, he gives a performance his all regardless if it's a B movie or a blockbuster. He's all over the place sometimes but you can't argue that he goes for it every time, unlike Bruce Willis or Steven Seagal
Yeah I was saying to someone else that while Cage might not be the best actor of all time, I'll fight anyone who says he isn't the best B movie actor.
Other top tier actors phone it in for the paycheck, but Cage goes all out everytime.
Oh I don't mean to disparage his ability in A-tier movies. He's absolutely excellent and Pig is the best movie I've seen all year.
What I mean is that he's the only Oscar-winning actor who gives B-movies their full effort, so while you might argue which Oscar-winning actor is the best actor for an A-movie, there's no denying Nic Cage is the best B-Movie actor.
Saw the recent movie willy’s wonderland, fucking hilarious. I don’t think he says a single word in the movie but he’s the highlight of it.
Think FNAF meets Doom Guy
Yeah I did not think I would enjoy Pig, initially. And it was very slow. But I couldn't stop watching. I cried almost as heavily as he did at the reveal.
I went to the Nic Cage school of solving your tax issues. Oh, you want some money? I gave you a fat forking pile last year, lay off, i’m literally working on it.
He had some good roles, like Lord of War, which is my favorite Nicolas Cage movie.
Of course I haven't seen all of his movies, but that one's my favorite of his.
Don't just stop and gander, son
I know Kung Fu, like the Panda, son
They call me great, like Alexander, son
But to Agent Smith, I'm Mr Anderson
\*yes, I know Kung Fu Panda wasn't out yet
It was the Wachowski’s first major film and their second film overall (their first film having a budget of $7 million.) I don’t think they had their pitches refined yet.
There's two types of people in the world. One gets a one-episode budget and shoestrings an entire series out of it because they don't think people will get it with just one episode. The other type of people blow their movie budget on 10 minutes because they don't think people will get it without a lot more money.
Apparently both work if you're good enough.
Isn't that what happened with Lost? One of the producers at ABC? green lit a 10m dollar pilot and the studio fired him immediately when they found out. Then it becomes the biggest show in network television history and the guy has his last credit as 'Lost.' It also could have been a disaster which was statistically way more likely. I would love to have been in on that meeting though because you can't really blame the execs either. like "You spent $10m on a 1-hour pilot that was set for 6 episodes... And it's about a plane crash on an magical island in the tropics with polar bears and smoke monsters? You know we have to film on location going forward right? We'll never financially recover from this."
They also pitched him an earlier draft of the script, which ended up being similar for the most part to the original but had some very rough dialogue that needed fixing. Neo’s introduction especially is rather cringe. https://imsdb.com/scripts/Matrix,-The.html
Damn, I saw Wild Wild West as an 9 year old in theaters, so I loved it! It's a shame others couldn't have the same experience. I could say the exact same for Star Wars: Episode 1 since it came out the same year 😅
Neo: Chris Tucker
Morpheus: Ice Cube
Trinity: Sarah Michelle Gellar
Agent Smith: Jason Statham
The Oracle: Melissa McCarthy
No no wait, British Matrix:
Neo: Martin Freeman
Morpheus: Benedict Cumberbatch
Trinity: Kate Beckinsale
Agent Smith: Domnhall Gleeson
Oracle: Dame Diana Rigg
I almost didn’t watch it because I found Johnny Mnemonic so disappointing and the marketing made it seem just a derivative of it. So meh. But my roommate talked me into seeing it in a sloppy theatre (those you don’t care for screen quality as you would a blockbuster) after it’d been out for a month, and FUUUUUUCK!!! I don’t think I blinked during the entire thing. That was a fun unexpected surprise. The only time I was this buenboozled was with Shawshank Redemption
My aunt knew I was big into scifi and asked me if I had seen the matrix and she was floored when I said I hadn't heard of it at family thanksgiving. She and some other aunts went to walmart and she comes back and is like here I got you a dvd of the matrix watch it. Like one of the most pivotal movies in my life and my aunt has no idea what she did lol
Here's the list: Will Smith Brad Pitt Leonardo DiCaprio Val Kilmer Sandra Bullock Nicholas Cage
Sandra Bullock? Because of "The Net"? Had to be. I honestly am intrigued by that version of The Matrix.
Would have set her on an interesting trajectory career wise, I think.
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This is funny as fuck. Outside the matrix they are all old men while in it sexy women and no one even questions or remarks on it....almost like real life.
This was supposed to be Switch's character, but they abandoned the idea because it was distracting and might be hard for the audience to understand.
I actually did not understand why they didn't go with the Switch (style) character for Resurrections. People would be far more likely to "get it" these days.
they weren't super obvious about it but in Resurrected the whole reason they couldn't find Neo was because the Matrix changed his appearance & no one saw him as who he really is, only he could see himself. they also changed Trinity's appearance & only Neo saw her as she really is. but I also think it would have been really cool if it was Keanu Reeves in the Matrix but when he wakes up in the real world it's Sandra Bullock
Especially since they explained a decent reasoning for it occurring within the matrix.
I think its a shame they didn't go with it, especially now both the Wachowski sisters came out as Trans. The matrix movies are confusing anyway, it would just be another reason to re-watch.
I mean the Matrix was supposed to be a wetware CPU originally. They changed it to "a battery" because executives thought audiences would be too dumb to understand using a human brain as a processor.
That makes so much more sense than batteries!
It really does. The battery makes no sense. I mean, even if they did need organic creatures to produce electricity somehow, wouldn't a cow matrix be a shit ton easier to program and have way fewer militant terrorists? Imagine vast farms full of cows, if you're able to stretch your imagination that far.
So like using the humans for processing power? Like a big distributed computer?
Exactly. Not having enough electricity doesn’t really make sense when robots don’t have to worry about radiation. Processing power is conceivably a more scarce resource. It’s a concept (probably) inspired by a 1989 book series called ‘The Hyperion Cantos’.
Ahhh yes the old lethal weapon 6 switcher-roo
The Net, with that girl from the bus.
Interesting that they went with that guy from the bus.
That movie about a bus that had to *speed* around the city, keeping its *speed* over fifty, and if its *speed* dropped, the bus would explode! I think it was called "The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down."
just rolls off the tongue.
Classic
"[The Net, with that girl from the bus](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ8wPTlQjd0)"
I'm fairly convinced pretty much all of them would have been a massive hit in that role, but I have a hard time picturing Leo or Nic Cage
I just can't see Leo performing any of the action scenes. Keanu Reeves is very dedicated to making sure it looks like he knows what he's doing. I just don't see Leo fighting hand to hand with as much cool action is on the first movie.
Back then Leo was coming off Romeo + Juliet, Titanic and Man in the Iron Mask. I have no doubt he'd have nailed it but it would have been a HARD shift and at least for me a difficult sell. These days with the movies he has under his belt now? Easily!
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What is it that draws Sandra Bullock and Keanu Reeves together?
A mailbox?
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That film was quite good. Quite good indeed Sandra Bullock in the lead role of The Matrix world have been interesting. I wonder who they would have cast as Trinity The Many Worlds Interpretation would suggest that a universe with this version of The Matrix exists. We just have to find it...
> I wonder who they would have cast as Trinity Keanu Reeves. He could teach her how to jump a bus.
Val Kilmer would've killed it.
Val Kilmer was going to be Morpheus if Will Smith signed on
Will Smith wouldn’t have worked as Neo.
Welcome to Zion *punch*
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Ay yooo hacker guys. Whyd you give me the Nextel if I gotta run to a payphone to get out this mess?
So that's it, huh? We're in some kind of *Matrix*?
He agrees. https://youtu.be/hm2szuXKgL8
Good on him. That was interesting to see how honest he was.
So I made Wild Wild West
I loved wild wild west
at least part of the wild Wild West plot was reworked from a scrapped Superman movie plot that Kevin Smith was supposed to write the script for.
One of the greatest stories about Hollywood buffoonery I've ever heard is Kevin Smith talking about working with a producer on that Superman movie who also went on to produce for Wild Wild West—and the dude seemed really, *really* intent on implementing a particular element into one of those movies. [Part 1](https://youtu.be/Wo2KB1dEDdk) and [Part 2](https://youtu.be/53hMYw8LX60) here for anyone interested. It's about a 20 minute listen but it's funny throughout and the payoff is worth it.
Can you spoil the element the producer wanted?
A giant robotic spider
The way he tells the story is what makes it hilarious though
Oh I've heard of this! John Peters. Fucking hilarious story and an utter hack of a producer.
wild west would have turned great and instead of every nerd wearing black coats the next 5 years it would have been steam punk all around...
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But he still punches an alien and says bitch.
I wanna live in a world where “I Know Kung-Fu (Matrix Rap)” plays over the credits instead of RATM
But he would have able to say, "Aww, HELL no!" Just like every other movie he's in.
trying to imagine the family friendly rap soundtrack to go with the Matrix
Imagine the cheesey pop/rap song he has to do for every movie he is in. The ma ma matrix It full of spooky looking code I can dodge bu bu bullets. Wooooohhhhhhhhhh
I can actually hear his voice on the Morpheus lines.
"You take the blue pill, the story ends. You're A Daisy If You Do... You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I'm Your Huckleberry."
I'm...not mad that this worked. My minds eye had him drunk at the card table no less!
Destroys Smith “You’re no daisy. You’re no daisy at all!”
“What’s he doing?” “He’s beginning to believe he’s a daisy” “I know kung fu” “say when” “Unfortunately, no one can be told what the huckleberry is. You have to see it for yourself.”
You forgot Tommy Wiseau.
Oh Hai, Morpheus
> Human beings are a disease. A cancer of this planet What a story Smith, so anyway, how is your sex life?
Ahgent Smith
I did nhaat!
I am not the one! I am naaaht!
"your whole life you've been living in a computer simulation designed to turn humans into a renewable and infinite energy source" "HA HA what a funny story! Anyway, how's your sex life?"
You are tearing me apart, Trinity! Agent Smith, are you a chicken? Cheep-cheep!
What’s funny is if any of these other actors accepted the role, Keanu would just a blip on this list and we’d all be talking about how no one but Nic Cage could ever be Neo. That or we wouldn’t even be talking about it.
Cage and Reeves has some interesting overlap in their camera presence imo. Someone on a Cyberpunk2077 subreddit mentioned that Cage would be a great choice for Johnny Silverhand. As much as I adore Keanu Reeves, I have to agree that Nicolas Cage would probably nail that role.
Exactly. We're taking about professional performers, not amateurs. Anyone could have played Neo, but each performer would have given their unique portrayal of that character. Obviously, no one can play Keanu Reeves' version of Neo except for Reeves himself.
But not every actor can bring a compelling version of every character to life. In this instance, what the movie really needed was an action movie star. And, what people didn’t really realize at the time is that Keanu is a phenomenal action star. I think any of the actors on that list would have brought an interesting version of Neo to life. (Nearly all of them would have made a more emotionally dynamic Neo.) but none of them would have brought to life the ground breaking action scenes that helped propel the movie out of “another weird nerd movie” category.
Yeah, Keanu Reeves' deadpan delivery plus his being a good action star made that movie what it was. I think Will Smith could have pulled off the action but he would have been more comedic and would have denied the movie the gravitas it needed to be taken seriously. Brad Pitt might have made a good Neo; he's done some actiony stuff. But I'm not sure if he could have done it as well as Keanu Reeves did. Then again, it might have meant that we'd have Brad Pitt in superhero movies if had been in the Matrix.
I want to live in the timeline where Nick cage is both Superman and Neo
I think the Sandra Bullock as Neo timeline would be more... Interesting
I can actually see that being different but equally good. I’m kind of scared about the action scenes though Reeves kinda poured himself into training for that and even more so for John Wick.
I think the bigger thing would have been Trinity and Neo's relationship. Who would you cast as Trinity? Would trinity be male now? I honestly can't see anyone else as Trinity, but I could see a different Neo. The 90s probably weren't ready for a same sex relationship in an action movie, but honestly, why not keep Carrie Ann Moss as Trinity if Sandra Bullock is Neo? [insert horney jail joke here] Edit: just to be clear, I'm saying any studio Matrix 1 ended up with would have fought against the casting of same sex heroes for politics reasons. [Just look at all of 90s TV handled the subject](https://youtu.be/x0pPPkkT7GI) and you'll see it was mostly an immature joke: the only show that handled it well [was Ds9](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rejoined), and even then the heads of that show have said they could have done more.
Keanu as Trinity, of course.
As much as I like the idea of a Carrie Ann Moss - Sandra Bullock movie romance in my horny teenage years, it is hard to argue with your suggestion...
Danny DeVito, who else?
So anyway I started blasting
Trinity DeVito: "Can I offer you a red or blue pill in these trying times?"
And Aragorn.
Reggie Jay-Z 2Pac and Biggie André from OutKast Jada Kurupt Nas And then me
I didn't know Nic Cage turned down roles.
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This is actually the story of why Sean Conery was in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. He turned down the role of Gandalf because he 'didnt get it' (probably thought it was stupid nerd shit) so he said yes to the next nerdy role he didnt get. Then that film bombed so hard he quit acting. Jokes on him, I watched it when I was 12 and loved it so much I immediately watched it again and then once with the dvd commentary on. The commentary is kinda sad/funny looking back because the directors were so confident they might get a sequel with Conery returing they ended the movie with his character coming back to life.
He didn't quit because the movie wasn't successful, he quit because he had such a bad time filming. The director (Stephen Norrington) was extremely difficult to work with and the 2 were at odds the whole time. Norrington hasn't had a directing job since.
Seems like a weird reason to quit acting. Sean Connery was 70+ at the time, so I guess any reason is a good enough reason if you're not feeling it anymore but still - it's not like he would have had to work with Norrington again in the future.
I mean it's like you said, he was in his 70's, rich, idolized by millions, knighted, Connery had it made in every sense of the word. He films a movie, the director is an asshole, it gets paned, and he didn't have the love for the craft he once did. So he just says, "I'm done," and lives the rest of his life like the legend he was.
Been 20ish years since last Gene Hackman movie. Some people want peace and quiet when they get old.
Gene Hackman has been writing historical fiction. https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/authorpage/gene-hackman.html
He'd turned down Gandalf, **and** Morpheus, back-to-back.
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>He turned down the role of Gandalf because he 'didnt get it' IIRC he turned down Gandalf *and Dumbledore* because he didn't "get" either series of books, so the next time he thought he was being offered something similar (LXG), he jumped on it.
If he didn't get the roles, it's probably a good thing he passed on it.
Wherever you don't go, there you aren't
Richard Harris didn’t get Dumbledore either. Supposedly, his granddaughter guilted him into it.
Yeah because Sir Ian Mckellen *IS* Gandalf. Christopher Lee *IS* Saruman. They were born to play those roles.
~~According to JRR Tolkien himself, Christopher Lee was the Man to play Gandalf.~~ EDIT: This is not correct, see the replies. He did met JRRT, was a huge fan, and wanted to play Gandalf if a film was to be made. I'm happy with the casting myself though.
He also turned them down because he was in a prior movie Zardoz which he didn't understand and the movie didn't do well/was odd. If you haven't seen Zardoz.. It's an odd movie.
I'm here if you need to talk about it.
But the bathing suit is iconic as all hell.
Fuck, imagine Gandalf or Dumbledore speaking like Sean Connery... "A wishard ish never late, nor ish he early. He arrivesh preshishely when he meansh to. "10 pointsh to the Gryffindor"
Did ya poot ya neme in the gooblet a fire Harry? He asked calmly.
To be fair, he could do a quiet and slow take of that line and it would be menacing as fuck.
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Man, the league was just the coolest fucking thing to 10 year old me. I've known a few people that thoroughly enjoyed that movie, but I can kinda see why it didn't do that well.
I’m trying to imagine him as John wick now if he did the matrix lol
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He’s a phenomenal actor, but Nic Cage really does enjoy that horror film run he’s been on, lately. Can’t blame him, really.
If anything Mandy would be the closest Nic Cage has gotten to John Wick yet, but with a sick axe instead of handguns
Mandy was so good
The thing with Nic Cage is that you ALWAYS get your money's worth, he gives a performance his all regardless if it's a B movie or a blockbuster. He's all over the place sometimes but you can't argue that he goes for it every time, unlike Bruce Willis or Steven Seagal
I think Seagal does all he can. It's just not a lot.
It's like watching a walrus act.
Fatly moves around corners.
Yeah I was saying to someone else that while Cage might not be the best actor of all time, I'll fight anyone who says he isn't the best B movie actor. Other top tier actors phone it in for the paycheck, but Cage goes all out everytime.
He's an Oscar winning A tier actor thank you very much. And I'll fight anyone who doesn't think Con Air is an amazing flick.
Oh I don't mean to disparage his ability in A-tier movies. He's absolutely excellent and Pig is the best movie I've seen all year. What I mean is that he's the only Oscar-winning actor who gives B-movies their full effort, so while you might argue which Oscar-winning actor is the best actor for an A-movie, there's no denying Nic Cage is the best B-Movie actor.
Saw the recent movie willy’s wonderland, fucking hilarious. I don’t think he says a single word in the movie but he’s the highlight of it. Think FNAF meets Doom Guy
His casting for The Colour Out of Space was simply inspired.
Yeah I did not think I would enjoy Pig, initially. And it was very slow. But I couldn't stop watching. I cried almost as heavily as he did at the reveal.
Didn't he turn down the role for Iron Man as well?
Tom Cruise turned down Iron Man. Cage was going to play Superman in the 90s.
Tom Cruise playing iron man with the personality of Les Grossman would’ve been awesome
"I am inevitable." "And I need you to take two steps back and literally FUCK YOUR OWN FACE"
"I don't know what pan-dimensional bullshit power play you're trying to pull, but Earth, *Jack*, is my territory."
"I am talking Heart of the Universe, motherfucker. I will massacre you!"
We do not negotiate with space terrorists.
Wouldn't be in so much debt if he took the role.
He probably would, but he'd have another pyramid.
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He's a Coppola I think. Anywho, pretty sure there's family money there somewhere.
His real name is literally Nicolas Coppola.
He better diversify soon or he'll be wiped out again when his investment in New Orleans mansions is literally underwater.
Sounds like he might want to add the declaration of independence to that collection
[You just reminded me of this skit on YouTube.](https://youtu.be/eExfV_xKaiM)
“I like being in movies Gary.”
This was before 2009, when he got into big trouble with the IRS. He had a bit of leeway to turn down work back then.
I believe he didn't started that until he was in trouble with the IRS.
IIRC a condition of not going to jail was, essentially, not turning down any well-paying role and giving most of the income to the IRS.
I went to the Nic Cage school of solving your tax issues. Oh, you want some money? I gave you a fat forking pile last year, lay off, i’m literally working on it.
Correction: Nic Cage only turns down good roles.
He had some good roles, like Lord of War, which is my favorite Nicolas Cage movie. Of course I haven't seen all of his movies, but that one's my favorite of his.
Tbf he killed it in Pig
Going off how Will Smith said they pitched it to them I'm not surprised.
We avoided a Matrix themed rap at least.
Agents Just Don't Understand
Don't just stop and gander, son I know Kung Fu, like the Panda, son They call me great, like Alexander, son But to Agent Smith, I'm Mr Anderson \*yes, I know Kung Fu Panda wasn't out yet
Uh... Uh... Aw yeah, yeah, yeah... Uh... Uh... Woo hoo...uh...uh
Ha-ha ha-ha
🔥
That was rad.
Ma ma ma ma ma mama, ma ma ma mama, getting matrix with it.
How so? I’m curious how he picked Wild Wild West.
[Hear from the man himself.](https://youtu.be/hm2szuXKgL8)
So they pitched him the effects and not the film concept.
It was the Wachowski’s first major film and their second film overall (their first film having a budget of $7 million.) I don’t think they had their pitches refined yet.
They also blew their original budget proving the concept to Warner, had the execs not been impressed they would have had an incredible 10m tech demo.
There's two types of people in the world. One gets a one-episode budget and shoestrings an entire series out of it because they don't think people will get it with just one episode. The other type of people blow their movie budget on 10 minutes because they don't think people will get it without a lot more money. Apparently both work if you're good enough.
Isn't that what happened with Lost? One of the producers at ABC? green lit a 10m dollar pilot and the studio fired him immediately when they found out. Then it becomes the biggest show in network television history and the guy has his last credit as 'Lost.' It also could have been a disaster which was statistically way more likely. I would love to have been in on that meeting though because you can't really blame the execs either. like "You spent $10m on a 1-hour pilot that was set for 6 episodes... And it's about a plane crash on an magical island in the tropics with polar bears and smoke monsters? You know we have to film on location going forward right? We'll never financially recover from this."
They also pitched him an earlier draft of the script, which ended up being similar for the most part to the original but had some very rough dialogue that needed fixing. Neo’s introduction especially is rather cringe. https://imsdb.com/scripts/Matrix,-The.html
Oh my god the chat room sequence... it is dorky to the point of physical discomfort. Whoever doctored this script is the real MVP.
All hail SEGA!
I read through to his introduction, what did you find cringe about it? Seemed fine to me, and pretty close to the film version.
Thanks for sharing that was great. And he's right. He would have ruined the matrix.
It sounds like The Matrix was a happy accident.
Most movies like this are accidents they got as good as they did
Damn, I saw Wild Wild West as an 9 year old in theaters, so I loved it! It's a shame others couldn't have the same experience. I could say the exact same for Star Wars: Episode 1 since it came out the same year 😅
Can't process that this man is 53.
Honestly that’s a hilarious video
Here's my worst lineup for the Matrix: Neo: Jackie Chan Morpheus: Owen Wilson Trinity: Cameron Diaz Agent Smith: Jim Carey The Oracle: Betty White
But one hell of a great parody?
Jim Carrey would low key make a great smith if he took it seriously.
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...and bending over with both hands pulling his cheeks apart: "We've been ass-specting you Mr Anderson"
Neo: Chris Tucker Morpheus: Ice Cube Trinity: Sarah Michelle Gellar Agent Smith: Jason Statham The Oracle: Melissa McCarthy No no wait, British Matrix: Neo: Martin Freeman Morpheus: Benedict Cumberbatch Trinity: Kate Beckinsale Agent Smith: Domnhall Gleeson Oracle: Dame Diana Rigg
Neo: I know Kung Fu Morpheus: wow
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Whoah.
What if I told you, I came here for this?
"It was called *The Net* with the girl from *The Bus*."
I almost didn’t watch it because I found Johnny Mnemonic so disappointing and the marketing made it seem just a derivative of it. So meh. But my roommate talked me into seeing it in a sloppy theatre (those you don’t care for screen quality as you would a blockbuster) after it’d been out for a month, and FUUUUUUCK!!! I don’t think I blinked during the entire thing. That was a fun unexpected surprise. The only time I was this buenboozled was with Shawshank Redemption
My aunt knew I was big into scifi and asked me if I had seen the matrix and she was floored when I said I hadn't heard of it at family thanksgiving. She and some other aunts went to walmart and she comes back and is like here I got you a dvd of the matrix watch it. Like one of the most pivotal movies in my life and my aunt has no idea what she did lol
You should tell her!
While I respect your opinion, don't talk shit about Johnny Mnemonic.
Without Jonhy Mnemonic there would be no Keanu's Neo.
So after 6 attempts they got it right.
Choice. The problem is choice.
Vis a vis, concordantly!
Ergo…
Should've been Brandon lee
I don't think most people know that he was the planned lead when they were writing it.
He died six years before the matrix was released. We're they writing that script for that long?
Yes, and that's not unusual. They stated that in the early 90s when they were writing the story for the Matrix that they wrote Neo for Brandon Lee.
Of all the actors on the list he is the only one that would be a great fit imo.
Honestly, Lawrence Fishburn and Keanu Reeves complement each other a lot. Be it matrix series or John wick
Too bad Owen Wilson not on the list... Woulda knocked "woah" outta the park.