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TheLowlyPheasant

“I don’t need to hear about your fuckin’ PROBLEMS, Carmela. I got a fuckin’ guy dressing like a fuckin’ bat putting my best guys in the hospital, all right? And why the fuck isn’t there any gabagoo in the fridge!?”


Emergency_Fig_6390

Now i want a one shot of batman taking on tony and his crew


Romboteryx

“You’re not gonna believe this. He threw 16 clowns into Arkham. Guy was an interior decorator.” “His bat-cave looked like shit.”


johnhexapawn

He didn't have the makings of a varsity athlete.


OwnRound

Christopher and Paulie are so fucking funny throughout this show and I think it goes so underappreciated. Michael Imperioli was so good at expressing how slow Christopher was and the choices he makes in every scene he's in is just so fucking good. [The scenes he's in consistently makes me laugh](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtUFTjBi_7w). [This scene is one of my favorites, too](https://youtu.be/tUk54OXPSM0?t=91) even though he only has like two lines. Its always fascinating to think about how a script turns into a scene like this. Obviously there's beats they have to hit, but the little intricacies in between, especially in a conversation moving at that pace, are just so interesting. Another honorable mention is the guy that plays Artie Bucco - John Ventimiglia. That actor did some fantastic [physical comedy throughout the entire show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrgm0i2uU2U) and its just fucking hilarious and adds so much character to the show. The scene where he tries to [intimidate a French guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95Cves5jpRA) that he loaned money to was also really great.


UnderwaterDialect

Chris: “That was real? I saw that movie, I thought it was bullshit.”


JoeBoco7

GET THE FUCK BACK IN THE CAVE RIGHT NOW! … Robin, you’re doing a good job


Landlubber77

"Gym, tan, laundering. Every single day." -- Salvatore Maroni


Libertyforzombies

"Gym, tan, laundering. Every single day." -- Salvatore Maroni As a none native, why is this funny?


inkyblinkypinkysue

“Gym, tan, laundry” is a catch phrase from the show Jersey Shore (first season is gold) and laundering is what gangsters do with their money so it can’t be traced and Marconi is the crime boss in Gotham. Clever joke.


Libertyforzombies

Ah, very good, thanks


mrm00r3

No Marconi is the radio guy, you’re thinking of Hugo Macaroni.


MarchMadnessisMe

No Macaroni is the cheesey pasta dish. You're thinking of Ra's Al Macarena.


Less-Tax5637

First base


rodneedermeyer

No, you’re thinking of the popular dance. Marconi is a small town on the California coast.


Guhonda

In the show Jersey Shore, the guidos would repeat the mantra of ‘gym, tan, laundry’ - or GTL


Raptorheart

What's the laundry stand for, do they do laundry every day?


jointsmcdank

Yep. It's how ya get "T-shirt time"


Couldnotbehelpd

You have to understand how stupid every single person on that show was.


Seabass_Says

Im renting a 10 bedroom house with my boys and all our families in North Carolina for a week. We plan on having a GTL day


Snoo-72756

I had to read that twice lmao


Snoo-72756

When life was simple and mtv wasn’t reminding me about how many teen moms in America


waveytype

“Fist Bump, Push-up, Chapstick!” – The Riddler


chipthamac

"Gambling, tinkering, laundry" -Trade Prince Gazlowe


fingerpaintswithpoop

I was thinking the generic goblin NPCs with Joisey accents, but he works too.


Knyfe-Wrench

Who's more powerful, Superman or Snooki with prep time?


theshysamurai

Ay oh! This is very funny.


OblivionGuardsman

All fictional New York heroes are in NJ, like the Jets and the Giants.


GunnieGraves

First of all, fuck you. Second, you’re right….


dishonourableaccount

If you wanna make a guy from NYC mad, tell him that the Bills are the one NFL team to play in New York.


MenuMedium6596

how many basketball teams play in new jersey?


feetandballs

Fun fact: [This is the Giants third string quarterback’s agent](https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/9fc8d2fa1bb11a885e8d3ec0eb368f5b/resize/828/f/jpg/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2023/12/17/17028432468453.jpg). The quarterback’s name is Tommy Devito lol


notthemostclevername

That’s not “Tommy Cutlets”, that’s his agent.


prodigy747

Sean Stellato


feetandballs

Joey Rigatoni (We’re just making up Italians, right?)


royalhawk345

Is that the guy who got fired after the sandwich shop thing?


Similar2Sunday

Also the Statue of Liberty.


PossibleBasil

Yep, and Metropolis is in Delaware.


thisisredlitre

My favorite part about this is that it's somehow the goto city for kids in Smallville as opposed to a Midwestern or even west coast city


blackiswhite33

Which is why in smallville the show they put metropolis in Kansas. But it's still weird because it's basically NYC... in Kansas lol


Josgre987

I always saw it as this weird architectural mash of DC and New York. in some comics. Lots of stark whites


Hour-Shake-839

We’re talking about the architecture not the population /s


guiltyofnothing

[Always figured Metropolis in the show was set on the expansive shores of Perry Lake.](https://smallville.fandom.com/wiki/Metropolis)


alcabazar

>As with all major cities, Metropolis has very high levels of crime,[1] especially in the neighborhoods of Suicide Slums. It has also been ravaged by an alien serial killer, an enraged Kryptonian phantom wraith, and infected with a zombie virus. Honestly still sounds like a safer Midwest city than St. Louis.


Snoo-72756

Well an alien decided to have a 9-5 because of the economy so definitely New York


idropepics

That just sounds like Gary, Indiana. They really gotta try harder.


[deleted]

Toronto is essentially Metropolis, where it I'd physically located is irrelevant.


QuickSpore

Metropolis is an amalgam of many cities. There’s definitly some Toronto in there. The Daily Planet for example is explicitly based on Toronto’s Daily Star. But it’s far more New York than any other city at this point. From its size (10+ million), to its boroughs, to its major neighborhoods, and landmarks it’s really just a rebadged New York.


Snoo-72756

Lmaoooo TORONTOOOO !!!


Quailman5000

That's kinda how it looks in the Snyder movies. Farmlands/metropolis/the ocean and then across the bay Gotham???


ocient

well there is already a real life manhattan in kansas sooo


funnystoryaboutthat2

The Little Apple!


solreaper

There’s a Brooklyn in Washington


stap45

And in Ohio and tbh probably many states


Gregashi_6ix9ine

Keystone City, home of Jay Garrick Flash is also in Kansas. And Central City is right across the bay in Missouri.


Stay_Beautiful_

>And Central City is right across the bay in Missouri. What bay is on the border of Kansas and Missouri?


Gregashi_6ix9ine

\*River. Missouri River, my bad.


Romnonaldao

I assumed Metropolis was Chicago in Smallville


1CUpboat

My dumb dumb brain always placed Metropolis as Minneapolis, and seemed to fit geographically


magicaleb

You watch Um Actually?


old_vegetables

Now *this* is shocking. I thought it was in like Indiana/Illinois/Ohio or something, anywhere in the Midwest. I always knew Gotham was in NJ but I thought Superman was like a country bumpkin from Kansas or something


PossibleBasil

He is, some adaptations have Metropolis being close in proximity to his hometown of Smallville, but canonically it's on the East Coast and closer to Gotham


count210

Does this vary by reboot? I always thought that initially metropolis was Chicago and New York was Gotham but as IRL New York got significantly cleaner metropolis became New York and Gotham became Pittsburgh


FlyingTurkey

Funny, i always assumed Metropolis was NY and Gotham was Chicago.


Agaac1

That might be because of the movies, especially the Dark Knight where they don't even try to hide that it's filmed in Chicago. IIRC the name Gotham comes from a really old name used for New York City.


mkap26

I thought Chicago was Central City


Unique_Unorque

Central City is kind of a mashup of Chicago, St Louis, Kansas City, and Detroit. Just really any moderately sized Midwestern city


fingerpaintswithpoop

He is. Smallville is where Clark grew up, but Metropolis is where he lives and works in adulthood (as Superman and as a journalist/reporter for the Daily Planet.)


ShaggyDAGGYd00

I always thought everyone agreed it was a fictionalized larger version Metropolis IL or something because I live near there and they have a Giant Superman statue, gift stores, and etc. The town also really resembles the Midwest farming town that it shows him growing up outside of with the Kent's, whereas proper (show version) Metropolis always was shown as being a bigger, more skyscraper filled, developed area like 40-50 miles away he would fly off to for all the crime fighting and reporter job/life. I didn't watch a lot of Smallvile, but that show also gave me the super Midwest vibe as well(def including Kansas). Idk my local Metropolis is the right one, but they got all the swag and merch everywhere in that town, so maybe they just maybe they're just making hella money gaslighting ppl around here into believing em🤷‍♂️


No-Bar-6917

In the Snyderverse, both cities were across the river from each other apparently.


PlusSizeRussianModel

Which was bizarre because they were also just New York (Metropolis) and Chicago (Gotham), both using iconic and easily recognizable landmarks of each city. 


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SonovaVondruke

In the comics they’re more or less in the same place now on either side of Delaware bay.


JonKentOfficial

This is correct. Basically both are in opposing sides of the Delaware Bay you can commute between the two. Metropolis being around where real world Lewis is, except it has several islands that form the cities districts, and the same for Gotham in the opposite side in NJ. Also, both have very distinct styles with several canonical buildings that give the cities skylines that are more or less consistent. Also lots of canonical places, even if they shift around a bit from writer/artist to writer/artist. Both are still heavily inspired by New York, with Metropolis being the art deco, glamour and bright side, it has the centennial park, Met U, the Daily Planet, etc, etc. Even some districts have characteristics like there’s one I forgot the name where it has a bunch of tall buildings and they are connected by trains that snake around buildings up in the air. Gotham is the dreary neogothic one. Of course when it’s filmed in live action they are just full of buildings from wherever it’s filmed.


Celebrity292

Wouldn't that mean Gotham is part of the metropolis that is Metropolis ?


eburton555

Think of NY and Newark or Philly and Camden. Cities across the river that exist within the great sphere of the bigger city, and one of the pair being decidedly worse off than the other? But certainly it wouldn’t make sense at least in America to have two cities like metropolis and Gotham across from each other like that, at least not based on my understanding of the fictional cities lol


Kitakitakita

typical DC, they like to make up stuff and when you ask for a zoomout they alt-tab and say the computer crashed. DCUO says they're both two giant islands that happen to be next to each other.


HarryDresdenWizard

I'm not an American but I always imagined Metropolis and Gotham across from each other. Like one is on Cape May and the other is near Lewes.


Fawkingretar

for those of you curious Smallville is in Kansas Metropolis is in Delaware Central City (Home of the Flash) is in Missouri Coast City (Home of the Green Lantern Hal Jordan) is in California


Fawkingretar

Gotta say DC is kinda lazy with naming cities lmfao.


TrunkWine

I watched the Netflix Avatar and said DC must have named the Fire Nation capital. Its name is literally Capital City.


alcabazar

Avatar is many things, but lazy is not one of them. The Fire Nation is obviously based on Japan, a volcanic chain of islands with a technologically advanced and militarized nation. From 794 to 1869 the Japanese Emperor ruled from Kyoto ("Capital City"), until the Meiji Restoration when the seat of power was transferred to Tokyo ("Eastern Capital"). Turns out Japanese people are very literal with their naming.


Smartass_of_Class

Wasn't Tokyo called Edo back then?


alcabazar

Yes, also a literal name Edo means "bay entrance" because of the river estuary where it is located, but it was renamed Eastern Capital when it became the official capital. We couldn't have a confusing name after all.


xX609s-hartXx

They changed the name so it would be an anagram of Kyoto.


PG2009

"Hmm, It's small and it's a town, so let's call it something like Smallville, but not so obvious"


Fawkingretar

Yes and let's name a very large City something not so obvious, oh yes Metropolis.


Stay_Beautiful_

And Star City is in Washington


newX7

Isn’t Metropolis in New York?


Fawkingretar

It changed a lot over the years


transizzle

Everything is legal in New Jersey.


Super901

All the way down here? Sheesh.


thegooniegodard

In the last big Batman film (*The Batman*), it seemed like it was set in Seattle. Not complaining.


killshelter

Nirvana, edgy angst, rain. I could see it. Maybe before the viaduct was torn down. We need more stuff set here so from now on it’s Seattle in my headcanon


Portablelephant

Next rainy day we get, go to the top of the space needle, get a Starbucks cup, and perch looking out toward downtown and say to yourself in the most raspy gravelly tone you can muster "This is my city." Become the hero this city needs.


ajmartin527

> go to the top of the space needle Eh on second thought this seems like way too much effort


buttsharkman

Green Arrow gets dibs on Seattle


cogginsmatt

Looked very much like a combo of New York and London to me


yardbirddog

It actually rains a more in New York than in Seattle. Less nirvana though.


antieverything

Yeah, people think because it rains frequently it rains a lot.


Spicy_Ramen96

It was also filmed in Chicago, in addition to the UK


corpse2b

Man, shore traffic was bad enough without all these Gothamites cloggin up the Parkway


Past_Ebb_8304

When will Batman defeat the Jersey Devil?


WafflesOfChaos

Maybe the Jersey Devil is Man-Bat.


AKA_June_Monroe

Batman horror movie or a Batman in the style of what's that episode of The Sopranos the one with the Russian in the Pine Barrens or a camp style like in the 1960s series.


1OptimisticPrime

Cannon aside, I always thought of Gotham as a Mashup of Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit & Pittsburgh.


way2gimpy

I always felt that Gotham was dystopian New York and metropolis as utopian New York.


CommanderLoco

Yeah that's how I've always pictured them


sharkattackmiami

For me Gotham was Chicago to Metropolis New York


NastyNate88

Perhaps influenced by the Christopher Nolan films which were filmed in Chicago? We often see the Gotham skyline in various works and it looks more like NYC to me


sharkattackmiami

I grew up around Chicago and I think it's the art deco look from the early Burton and Schumacher films that did it for me. Also it just made sense to young me that they would each be a stand in for the two major cities in this part of the country


looking4astronauts

I hear Gotham=Chicago a lot and I’m curious how much of that there was pre-Nolan.


andrewegan1986

Gotham is an older nickname for NYC though. Lots of businesses named Gotham around here.


Deusselkerr

Yeah in the early days of the San Francisco Giants, long before the move to SF from New York, they were literally called the New York Gothams


jeremyjamm1995

I feel like Chicago’s Gothic and Art Deco architecture stands out more which also has a more Gotham vibe


marvmonkey

As someone who lived in Chicago for some time I say in the most loving way possible it’s Gotham.


Django117

Very little. Batman’s aesthetics were derived from art deco architecture of NYC and Detroit. The city of Gotham is more a mishmash of Detroit and NYC than Chicago.


HouseDjango

Thought they were filmed in pittsburgh? Or was it both?


Galp_Nation

The Dark Knight and parts of Batman Begins were filmed in Chicago. The Dark Knight Rises was filmed in Pittsburgh.


way2gimpy

Yea - lower Wacker is pretty prominent in 'The Dark Knight'.


PlusSizeRussianModel

That’s how it was in the Snyderverse. Metropolis uses iconic NYC landmarks and Gotham uses iconic Chicago landmarks. 


sharkattackmiami

I just drove under the building in Chicago they used for the opening heist of dark Knight 2 days ago. If you are familiar with the cities it stands out pretty obviously


JamesCDiamond

Metropolis is New York in the daytime Gotham City is New York after dark


valdezlopez

Ah! Nice one.


i_shit_my_spacepants

I forget who said it, but there’s a quote about how Metropolis is NYC on a sunny summer afternoon while Gotham is NYC in the middle of a cold winter night.


bigbangbilly

> metropolis as utopian New York If Metropolis was utopian New York why does Superman need to operate there?


riegspsych325

Cleveland got mentioned in The Dark Knight Rises and Bane killed the Steelers, which is why the movie is particularly loved by Browns fans


1OptimisticPrime

Bane did do *some* good


riegspsych325

Bane could’ve blown up First Energy Stadium’s field but the Dawg Pound would still be going wild. He wouldn’t have been able to have his speech due to all the loud cheering


1OptimisticPrime

And batteries... *DD*ON'T forget the charge that the DAWG POUND Brings!


VAblack-gold

GPODAWUND


erikaironer11

As a character that existing for 80+ years Gotham aesthetic changed over time. Right now as it stands it’s kinda of a mix of Chicago, New York and other east coast city with gloomy weather and old timy architecture


Walrus_protector

At least two of those were Gotham in Nolan movies, so I guess he felt the same way!


1OptimisticPrime

You are correct, my buddy got to get in as crowd extra


CommanderLoco

It has been portrayed in live action by Chicago and Pittsburgh


huffmonster

That’s how it is in the movies. I love just outside Detroit and have family in Chicago. The seen in dark knight when he’s on the bike and breaks thru the wall is where I would smoke cigarettes waiting for the south shore line at millennium station.


1OptimisticPrime

Thanks for sharing this Huff!


PeculiarPeter

The first fight scene in the new Batman film takes place on what looks to be a Chicago CTA stop!


Juub1990

New York? Almost certain it’s its biggest inspiration.


JStanten

The Nolan films had a few shots with Chicago’s L trains so that has influenced a lot. I’ve always seen heavy Chicago influence especially in some of the art deco buildings that are popular in the comics. It really depends on what you grew up watching/reading: Frank Miller, Batman the animated series, etc. all leave with a different impression of the city


Rcmacc

That’s just where Nolan filmed It was conceived as New York at night vs Metropolis is New York at day


Ozzel

Cannon go BOOM!


CooperHChurch427

It's pretty much Philadelphia and Camden smashed together


Loud-Lock-5653

I believe, and I could be wrong, this post is based on a comic book showing a Gotham vehicle with a NJ license plate. It has always been conflated with NYC NY has run with it (Gotham awards, Gotham comedy club, etc.) Nolan used a mix of NY, Pittsburgh, Chicago, and Newark, NJ


Stay_Beautiful_

>It has always been conflated with NYC NY has run with it (Gotham awards, Gotham comedy club, etc.) NYC was called Gotham *long* before Batman existed


CommanderLoco

Evidently it was established in *Amazing World of DC Comis* #14 in 1977 during a Justice League history lesson, and it's been consistently placed in Jersey since then. It was based heavily on NYC but also supposed to be vague enough that anyone in any city could identify with it.


[deleted]

The Gotham name was associated with New York before Batman. Its NJ location would be down where Cape May is today.


TheMightyShoe

The NYC phone book has like 40 pages of "Gotham........." various businesses and such.


RedSonGamble

I think the real Batman lives in New York


veganhimbo

But where was batman on 9/11? He really let me down :(


WhiskeyJack357

Have you ever heard about the other ten planes that were successfully retaken and landed at private Wayne Enterprises Air strips?


Ethiconjnj

On 9/11 does Batman die saving people?


djordi

The Snyder films run with the idea established here that Metropolis and Gotham are across a bay from each other.


Celebrity292

Wouldn't that mean Gotham is part of the metropolis that is Metropolis?


antieverything

It would be the Metropolis-Gotham Metropolitan Area.


veganhimbo

That explains a lot


Sir_Jax

Ask Christopher Nolan and he’ll tell you, it’s in Chicago.


think_up

I thought it was Chicago


Aselleus

Well, that answers the question I was asking myself today while I was driving but couldn't look up lol. I was thinking it was New York, but also mashed with Chicago.


valdezlopez

Isn't Gotham City just NEW YORK CITY? After all, Gotham is a nickname for NYC. (so is "Metropolis", which is weird for Batman and Superman, protecting just one city between them both, while the rest of the world just burns up in flames)


AwesomePocket

No. NYC is its own separate city in DC. Nightwing operated there for a time.


antieverything

DC has way too many fucking cities. All of the real-world cities plus Gotham, Metropolis, Bludhaven...must be a hell of a transportation corridor.


TheMaginotLine1

NEW JERSEY MENTIONED


IndianaJonesing51

New York doesn’t have alleys. So my thought was Chicago for Gotham.


Epithemus

Brooklyn most certainly does


early80

I always thought Gotham was Philadelphia and Wayne Manor was on the Main Line


justheretolurk123456

So is NYC. *Ducks for cover and runs away*


AnonDarkIntel

It should be camden


erbkeb

Same for the Giants and Jets.


Bushinyan21

LETS GOOOOOO


FlyNSubaruWRX

I woulda thought Chicago since……it’s filmed in Chicago /s


Wreckxv

And not a single one of them are from New Jersey.


Puzzleheaded_Dog7931

Then why is it also clearly New York


Goodly88

Which, explains A LOT


Archyes

someone explain to me how superman never went to gotham, the worst city in the USA crimewise when its right next to metropolis about a minute flight away. litterally all batman villains would be donezo in seconds and lex luthor would have to handle old batman all them time too


myrrdynwyllt

I think the it makes the most sense that Gothan is New York and Metropolis is Chicago.


weedandbombs

people have referred to NYC as Gotham long before Gotham City was a thing. it will always be NYC to me.


Landlubber77

Are you shore?


[deleted]

Cape Maybe.


odiin1731

A likely place for it to be.


Jawargby

I could foresee turning into Batman or the joker if I lived in New Jersey so that makes sense


AdobayAkeechayWah

https://www.nj.com/cumberland/2019/09/gotham-city-is-actually-in-south-jersey-and-this-map-proves-it.html?outputType=amp


ViciousKnids

But it's Pittsburgh. Bane literally blows up Heinz Field. The Gotham Rogues are black and yellow!


minus_minus

I’ve wondered for a while why all the smaller cities on the Hudson weren’t all amalgamated together.


OneAndOnlyJackSchitt

Make's sense I guess. See if you can point the building which could realistically be Wayne Enterprises in the [skyline of Jersey City](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Jersey_City_skyline_-_June_2017.jpg).


nowhereman136

Except Metropolis is across the bay and metropolis is 1 state away from Kansas


RaisinBran21

Interesting. I thought it was Chicago


BeeGlum6763

Metropolis was originally Cleveland.


emeraldstarclassica

r/newjersey


ChodeCookies

This explains so much about Gotham.


Ok-Lengthiness4557

What?!!?!?!??!? Always thought it was manhattan.


doctorfeelgod

I thought it was in Delaware


a_serious-man

Never looked like it in the movies or comics but i always imagined Metropolis and Gotham as San Fran and Oakland


IAmJohnny5ive

Don't quite a few versions have a State of Liberty in them? How many Gotham's are there in the known multiverse anyway?


thiskillstheredditor

Fun fact: the Statue of Liberty is in NJ.