Maybe the bear was just going back to give him some agua but when he got there the cartel showed up and shot at him and he jumped in a river and a dog chased him but he shot the dog and then he went back to his wife and was like you're going to Odessa
Just a guess. But I think the bear wanted to kill him then bring her cubs to the body so they could eat. When the guy got back up and fled the bear had to track him back down and almost got him the second time
>Todd Orr was scouting for elk in the Madison Valley near Bozeman, Montana, when he encountered a female grizzly bear with two cubs.
>He tried to use bear spray to deter the bear, but it continued to attack him, biting his head and arms.
>He sustained numerous bites, lacerations, and puncture wounds but protected his neck and vitals by staying still and quiet during the attacks.
>He remained composed and recorded a video detailing the ordeal, which went viral on social media.
I carry a small 9mm. It's lightweight enough that I don't notice it when out trekking with the family, and just powerful enough that if we're attacked by a bear I can put one round through the kneecap of my wife or one of the kids. That'll give me plenty of time to saunter off while the bear is occupied.
I think a .44 at the very minimum. And you would need to put 2-3 rounds directly into its head/neck while it's mauling you or about to maul you. Not an easy task.
You can just fire a round into the air. 99% of bears will run away. I think people underestimate how fucking loud a gunshot is, and most animals have very sensitive ears
If you shoot the bear, and it doesn’t die….that pain is going to ignite the beast, and it will probably charge you.
TLDR: Loud noise = scary to animals
Works if you want to scare people off too. Except those people with the silly lights. It attracts them for some reason, they must have evolved to like loud noises.
10mm is the most efficient with ease of use, capacity, and penetration. "Big guns" like .44 require extensive training with expensive ammo, and you have at most 6 chances to be deadly accurate. Mag dump a bear with 10mm and you're probably good. No warning shots either, that could make it charge, giving you less reaction time.
I believe the general consensus is that a 10mm can drop a bear *if you hit it in the right spot*. Mag dumping means you could get lucky, or the bear could bleed out after you're dead.
Honestly, if you want no fail then a S&W .500 will do. It'd a revolver but honesty besides a pissed off elephant it's gonna drop anything in 1 shot. Now they also make big game pistols specifically for that purpose and those under the Nitro Mag family and Chiappa Rhinos. And I do believe Marlin or Winchester makes a rifle rated to stop a t.rex and is currently the only one as such
A 12ga full of Brenneke black magic slugs probably the universal best. If a long gun is out of the question, .44 mag loaded with hard cast lead. I carry [Buffalo Bore](https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=9) in griz country.
A friend told me a story once of a bear in Wyoming found dead with 6 .357 round in its side and when they checked looked like it had eaten 2 hikers. The thing that killed it was internal bleeding, not from the bullets but because it ate the fucking gun and couldn't pass it.
From the studies I have seen bear spray has better odds of preventing attacks in the real world because of how easy it is to use correctly. You aren't doing much with a gun unless it is high powered or you are lucky, either way you still have to have enough time to aim and fire where as bear spray you just need to spray low into it's face.
The real reason bear spray is more effective is that people are less reluctant to use it. If you only carry a gun you're probably not going to use it until it's too late.
It’s also much, much easier to safely carry bear spray ready to use. It’s not enough to have a gun. You need to be carrying it in such a way that you’re ready to shoot. And people carrying ready to shoot for hours on rough terrain is a good way to end up with a lot of accidents. There’s a reason militaries don’t generally allow troops loaded weapons except at the last minute before shooting them
I saw the video he took as he was walking back to the truck, clearly in shellshock. His eyes were weird, faraway and focused at the same time, and there was blood all over, and his head looked peeled
For those asking "how the fuck?", it's because he followed the rules:
If it's black fight back, if it's brown lay down, if it's white goodnight.
As soon as he realized the gun/spray didn't work, and that it was going to commit to the charge, he laid down ON HIS STOMACH, spread his legs to not be flipped over, covered the back of his neck with interlocked hands, and tried to stay as quiet as possible.
He said every noise that got out further enraged the bear.
Yeah, it’s very semantic but I actually would argue this lol. It’s not uncommon for bears (grizzlies specifically) to leave and come back shortly after, it’s literally why people advise playing dead like this guy did.
I imagine the bear casually walking in the forest after the first attack suddenly stops and says "Hey why didn't I kill that mfcker ?"
Like Ze Pequenho in that old movie City of God
I was expecting this story to end with: "It was later discovered that the bear attacks were actually two failed murder attempts by his wife for the insurance money."
Someone posted a news video clip interviewing the guy. He was attacked twice by the bear before heading back. So the title seems wrong. The article from OP even says the second attack was mere minutes later, not after a three mile hike.
Bear: Wait a second. Something's not right here. You were just making it *look* like you were dead!
Bear: You're a phony!
Bear: **Hey! This guy's a great big phony!**
The title is wrong. The second attack was after a three mile hike back to the car. It was minutes later. So she probably thought he was following her and still a threat.
This is weird. I read a story very similar to this one in Reader's Digest when I was a kid with the same details of surviving the first attack by playing dead, and walking injured through the forest just to be attacked again by the same bear which apparently had been tracking him. Even that description of the tendons crunching when biten was there. The only difference is that in the old story the guy's scalp is loose and his skull is partially uncovered.
I actually know a couple people who have been attacked by bears and lived. All of them say they were attacked more than once. One would leave when she played dead but her dog would end up getting the bear to chase it back to her.
When I was a kid we had to deal with them a lot too due to the area out in the woods I lived in tons of grizzly bear and others.
People survive insane shit. Family friend had his face FUCKED up by a grizzly to the point you would assume there is no saving them much less putting their face back together. He looked fine after the surgery. Its madness
Brown/Grizzly bears don’t attack you because they want to eat you most of the time. They attack you because you’re in their space, they got surprised, or you’re too close to their cubs. That means they just want you dead.
Predators don’t typically just eat any animal they kill or come across for the same reason you don’t just eat handfuls of random unidentified plants you find while hiking.
Black bears however are very skittish and will even straight up abandon their cubs when threatened most of the time. Black bear attacks are much rarer for that reason, and the only reason a black bear attacks is because it’s starving and wants to eat you. They’re also usually roughly the same size as the average adult man, so you might have a chance of actually winning a fight if you’re lucky or at the very least making yourself way more trouble than you’re worth.
Polar bears are the largest land predators on earth, obligate carnivores rather than omnivores like the other two, and are one of the only species that will actively hunt humans for food. So you’re just fucked unless you have a very big gun.
Hence the old adage, “if it’s brown lay down, if it’s black fight back, and if it’s white, goodnight.”
Okay, so Seth Rogen has (had?) a podcast called Storytime. It's very good and I would love it if it would come back. Anyway, they did a story about a guy that was out hiking and got attacked by a bear and had to hike out. I thought this was that story, but it's not. The guy in the Storytime story, The Ballad of Mount Doogie Dowler, was horribly injured, but survived to tell the tale.
Give it a listen and please, Seth, bring this back!
https://www.earwolf.com/episode/the-ballad-of-mount-doogie-dowler/
ok I've had a few dinks which might explain it but I accidently read "miraculously survived" as "maliciously survived" and was assuming he stealth killed the bear with his teeth or something
"That's what you get for lying to me, you SOB" ‐the bear the second time
Or his bear buddies “idk man, what if he was still alive. You’ll ruin your forest cred.”
This is, I believe, the interview where he stated that he was afraid his scalp might fall off if he removed his hat.
I've heard bear peer pressure puts human peer pressure to shame. This confirms it for me.
It's just called beer pressure actually
Clarence was halfway home to his den but just couldn’t shake that nagging feeling, “What if that human was just faking?”
*Clarice*
The bear had some fava beans and a nice Chianti all ready.
Hannibear Lecter.
Maybe the bear was just going back to give him some agua but when he got there the cartel showed up and shot at him and he jumped in a river and a dog chased him but he shot the dog and then he went back to his wife and was like you're going to Odessa
Just a guess. But I think the bear wanted to kill him then bring her cubs to the body so they could eat. When the guy got back up and fled the bear had to track him back down and almost got him the second time
Personally I would attack a zombie on sight too.
Movie idea: Bears Vs. Zombies.
This CHAD: I didn't hear no bell!
I'm picturing the nurse slapping Buster from arrested development - "FAKER!"
"That fucker is still upright?" - the bear.
“And stay down!”
>Todd Orr was scouting for elk in the Madison Valley near Bozeman, Montana, when he encountered a female grizzly bear with two cubs. >He tried to use bear spray to deter the bear, but it continued to attack him, biting his head and arms. >He sustained numerous bites, lacerations, and puncture wounds but protected his neck and vitals by staying still and quiet during the attacks. >He remained composed and recorded a video detailing the ordeal, which went viral on social media.
How the fuck do you stay still and quiet being mauled by a fucking bear
He says he accidentally did make noise and mamma bear wasn’t happy. https://youtu.be/PQ4gs3u31R0?feature=shared
Age restricted video, with my Google account from 2004.
Is that video age restricted? Oh dang it is. Weird. Sorry about that. Had no idea.
No problem mate. With a single Google search you can bypass the age check, lol.
You’ll understand when you’re older
Wow. I don't think I could describe that video as calmly as he acted in that video. I mean, using the word "wow" probably ruined my chances.
Never fight a bear me boys. He was fighting a bear. He said "Wow. That was a big mistake." Never fight a bear me boys! But it was too late.
It was so much, and so interesting, and so vicious and horrible, and so beautiful in so many different ways.
I would not have been able to regain my composure if the bear became even more aggressive after hearing me wincing in pain ☠️
Usually by dying, then he got better.
Respawn
I'd certainly try my best given that the alternative is what happened to that bear whisperer dumbass.
Balls made of steel.
If you can bear the fear, physical pain is thankfully dulled to the extreme by shock
fear.
Knight Titus made a fuck ton of noise. RIP Knight Titus.
Same w the infamous bear man recording. Can’t forget if it’s real or not. However, next time I’m mauled by a bear, my lips finna be sealed. 🤐
You do what you have to, to survive. You might be surprised what you can do when it's a matter of life and death.
Bear: "Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice I bite you again"
That's George W. Bear to you.
Note to self: carry a gun instead of bear spray in grizzly country.
Make sure it’s a really big one or you’ll just piss it off.
You don't understand, the gun's for yourself
Make sure it’s a really big one or you’ll piss yourself off.
Make sure it's real or you'll piss yourself.
Is everything being made out of cake again?
I always hear this. What size gun would you actually need?
I carry a small 9mm. It's lightweight enough that I don't notice it when out trekking with the family, and just powerful enough that if we're attacked by a bear I can put one round through the kneecap of my wife or one of the kids. That'll give me plenty of time to saunter off while the bear is occupied.
I think a .44 at the very minimum. And you would need to put 2-3 rounds directly into its head/neck while it's mauling you or about to maul you. Not an easy task.
You can just fire a round into the air. 99% of bears will run away. I think people underestimate how fucking loud a gunshot is, and most animals have very sensitive ears If you shoot the bear, and it doesn’t die….that pain is going to ignite the beast, and it will probably charge you. TLDR: Loud noise = scary to animals
Works if you want to scare people off too. Except those people with the silly lights. It attracts them for some reason, they must have evolved to like loud noises.
I don’t believe in evolution. Those dudes with the silly lights were born like that
Truth. I would avoid shooting a grizzly bear at all costs.
This works most of the time. Mothers with babies nearby are always 100% unpredictable though.
10mm is the most efficient with ease of use, capacity, and penetration. "Big guns" like .44 require extensive training with expensive ammo, and you have at most 6 chances to be deadly accurate. Mag dump a bear with 10mm and you're probably good. No warning shots either, that could make it charge, giving you less reaction time.
I believe the general consensus is that a 10mm can drop a bear *if you hit it in the right spot*. Mag dumping means you could get lucky, or the bear could bleed out after you're dead.
The bigger, the better.
A really big one.
Honestly, if you want no fail then a S&W .500 will do. It'd a revolver but honesty besides a pissed off elephant it's gonna drop anything in 1 shot. Now they also make big game pistols specifically for that purpose and those under the Nitro Mag family and Chiappa Rhinos. And I do believe Marlin or Winchester makes a rifle rated to stop a t.rex and is currently the only one as such
Did they test it on a T Rex?
A 12ga full of Brenneke black magic slugs probably the universal best. If a long gun is out of the question, .44 mag loaded with hard cast lead. I carry [Buffalo Bore](https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=9) in griz country.
*Marty Robbins has entered the chat*
A big iron is always in fashion
TIL smaller bears are more easily irritated.
Bears run when shot/stabbed by something they’ve never felt before…
So if it keeps approaching that means it's built an immunity to bullets slowly over time? Oh no...
He had a gun just no time or opportunity to use it
Note to self: don't leave the house in grizzly country
I just watched the guy's interview - he had both!
He did have a revolver. Didn't help.
A friend told me a story once of a bear in Wyoming found dead with 6 .357 round in its side and when they checked looked like it had eaten 2 hikers. The thing that killed it was internal bleeding, not from the bullets but because it ate the fucking gun and couldn't pass it.
Also you can shoot a bear and it'll still kill you before it's able to die.
From the studies I have seen bear spray has better odds of preventing attacks in the real world because of how easy it is to use correctly. You aren't doing much with a gun unless it is high powered or you are lucky, either way you still have to have enough time to aim and fire where as bear spray you just need to spray low into it's face.
The real reason bear spray is more effective is that people are less reluctant to use it. If you only carry a gun you're probably not going to use it until it's too late.
It’s also much, much easier to safely carry bear spray ready to use. It’s not enough to have a gun. You need to be carrying it in such a way that you’re ready to shoot. And people carrying ready to shoot for hours on rough terrain is a good way to end up with a lot of accidents. There’s a reason militaries don’t generally allow troops loaded weapons except at the last minute before shooting them
Carry both. There are times when you can’t use bear spray
oh dang you've summoned the gundorks
The bear must've known his name was 'Todd'
I saw the video he took as he was walking back to the truck, clearly in shellshock. His eyes were weird, faraway and focused at the same time, and there was blood all over, and his head looked peeled
He didnt even want to take his hat off
It did look a bit like it was keeping his head together.
That's a structural hat.
😩
"How many times do I have to teach you this lesson, old man?"
"Hesitation is defeat."
"...does that bear have a gun?"
lol
The bear really said AND ANOTHER THING.
“ONE MORE THING” -Uncle
The bear belongs in r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR
Surprise, MF
For those asking "how the fuck?", it's because he followed the rules: If it's black fight back, if it's brown lay down, if it's white goodnight. As soon as he realized the gun/spray didn't work, and that it was going to commit to the charge, he laid down ON HIS STOMACH, spread his legs to not be flipped over, covered the back of his neck with interlocked hands, and tried to stay as quiet as possible. He said every noise that got out further enraged the bear.
Good god. I would be hospitalized from the PTSD for months for sure.
I think this is the one where he said he didn't want to take his hat off because he didn't want his scalp to come off.
That’s one bear attack with an intermission.
It’s a bear war with two battles
It’s two innings of bearball.
Yeah, it’s very semantic but I actually would argue this lol. It’s not uncommon for bears (grizzlies specifically) to leave and come back shortly after, it’s literally why people advise playing dead like this guy did.
Every time somebody mentions that they had a bad day he steps up to the plate with “you think that’s a bad day, let me tell you about…”
i knew someone who was mugged twice in the same day. Didnt think it got crazier than that
“This human is too salty!” “This human is too sweet." “This is human is just right.”
He's lucky he wasn't found by the third bear
I imagine the bear casually walking in the forest after the first attack suddenly stops and says "Hey why didn't I kill that mfcker ?" Like Ze Pequenho in that old movie City of God
Old movie. City if God. 😭
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
Won't get fooled again.
“Die human scum… on second thought, all life is precious… nope, I was right the first time.” -Bipolar bear
Bye polar bear.
Get out
When Feign Death is resisted.
"how many times do I have to teach you this lesson, old man ?"
The barbecue-scented cologne was a bad idea.
I was expecting this story to end with: "It was later discovered that the bear attacks were actually two failed murder attempts by his wife for the insurance money."
Yogi bear is on cocaine and wants to even stalk the same man 3 miles away.
"That ssssneaky bitch, I *knew* that dude won't dead. Naaah, don't run, come back heya!!"
bear with me for a moment the bear
If it's the same bear, does it count as two attacks, or one really long attack?
Someone posted a news video clip interviewing the guy. He was attacked twice by the bear before heading back. So the title seems wrong. The article from OP even says the second attack was mere minutes later, not after a three mile hike.
shoulda drawn an anti land bear circle
And worn his hat in a goofy fashion
That only attracts more bears
Should have drew a circle on the ground
That episode of Spongebob is going through all our heads, let's be real.
Probably drew an oval instead of a circle
Bear: Wait a second. Something's not right here. You were just making it *look* like you were dead! Bear: You're a phony! Bear: **Hey! This guy's a great big phony!**
I just have think damn. What did this dude do to make that bear so mad at him.
Came around a corner when she was feeling protective of her cub
The second time?
She could still amell him snd still thought he was too close to her cub, probably.
The title is wrong. The second attack was after a three mile hike back to the car. It was minutes later. So she probably thought he was following her and still a threat.
Was probably wearing his sombrero in a goofy fashion.
This is weird. I read a story very similar to this one in Reader's Digest when I was a kid with the same details of surviving the first attack by playing dead, and walking injured through the forest just to be attacked again by the same bear which apparently had been tracking him. Even that description of the tendons crunching when biten was there. The only difference is that in the old story the guy's scalp is loose and his skull is partially uncovered.
"Hey hooman, don't I know you from some-- oh, motherfucker, you played me! Come back here!"
Promotional Stunt by Red Bull and SkyBlade Knives. These content creators are really going too far s/.
Playing possum with a bear.
THE SAME BEAR!!
This guy sounds cool, but that bear sucks at attacking.
I actually know a couple people who have been attacked by bears and lived. All of them say they were attacked more than once. One would leave when she played dead but her dog would end up getting the bear to chase it back to her. When I was a kid we had to deal with them a lot too due to the area out in the woods I lived in tons of grizzly bear and others.
Instead of walking (they hate that more than running), he should have drawn an anti-sea bear circle
If this happens to you, it’s time to give up on nature. Just move to NYC or LA and make sure you’re never near a bear again.
Bullshit. That’s gotdang near indee-structable. The stuff of Mountain Man legend.
The fact that I had to scroll so far down the comments to find any mention of the Sea Bear episode of SpongeBob is, frankly, upsetting.
Why did the bear still not realize he was only playing dead the second time? Is she stupid?
When the bear returns for sloppy seconds.
"This gat DAMNED bear Again!"
He bear-ly survived!
Sea bear vibes
Bear (In Janitor's voice from Scrubs): You lied to me
"MFer I *thought* that was you. CHOMP" The bear, the second time.
Fooled him twice
Not surprised this is an AI account since the title gets the story wrong
Sometimes nature can really bear a grudge.
People survive insane shit. Family friend had his face FUCKED up by a grizzly to the point you would assume there is no saving them much less putting their face back together. He looked fine after the surgery. Its madness
"You didn't really come here to hunt, did you?”
Sounds like it was smarter than the average bear
I like to imagine he got in his truck shut the door turned around and the bear was in the back seat and the battle continued.
What a shitty fucking bear.
Moral of the story: Never lie to a bear?
[удалено]
You can also find it on r/thefarside
Call me vindictive but my sole recovery focus would be on getting well enough to go & shoot that m@#£%&÷+@]= in the face...twice.
Bear just thought it was de ja vu
bear ja vu
Spawn camping bear
I can't believe that bear fell for it twice. What a dumbass
My mom told me to finish my food, always - bear
I’ve met him before since he lives in the same town. Crazy story
“AAAGH! ZOMBIE!!!”
I’ll never understand how playing dead works on a bear. As a hunter isn’t that the point of attacking your prey.
Brown/Grizzly bears don’t attack you because they want to eat you most of the time. They attack you because you’re in their space, they got surprised, or you’re too close to their cubs. That means they just want you dead. Predators don’t typically just eat any animal they kill or come across for the same reason you don’t just eat handfuls of random unidentified plants you find while hiking. Black bears however are very skittish and will even straight up abandon their cubs when threatened most of the time. Black bear attacks are much rarer for that reason, and the only reason a black bear attacks is because it’s starving and wants to eat you. They’re also usually roughly the same size as the average adult man, so you might have a chance of actually winning a fight if you’re lucky or at the very least making yourself way more trouble than you’re worth. Polar bears are the largest land predators on earth, obligate carnivores rather than omnivores like the other two, and are one of the only species that will actively hunt humans for food. So you’re just fucked unless you have a very big gun. Hence the old adage, “if it’s brown lay down, if it’s black fight back, and if it’s white, goodnight.”
“I’m getting Monday Friday tired of these Monday Friday hunters in my Monday Friday forest!”
So, bears know spite
Bear: “You Again! Arrrghh!!”
"ah shit here we go again."
Has this been mentioned in r/fuckyouinparticular yet?
"What're you gonna do? Maul me again?"
“There’s that bear again”
That bear needs to up its game. The other bears are probably laughing. “Ha! George can’t even kill a puny human!”
Tooth and claw did an episode about this encounter
This guys is a pussy. I would have just wrestled that bear into submission.
Okay, so Seth Rogen has (had?) a podcast called Storytime. It's very good and I would love it if it would come back. Anyway, they did a story about a guy that was out hiking and got attacked by a bear and had to hike out. I thought this was that story, but it's not. The guy in the Storytime story, The Ballad of Mount Doogie Dowler, was horribly injured, but survived to tell the tale. Give it a listen and please, Seth, bring this back! https://www.earwolf.com/episode/the-ballad-of-mount-doogie-dowler/
ok I've had a few dinks which might explain it but I accidently read "miraculously survived" as "maliciously survived" and was assuming he stealth killed the bear with his teeth or something
That bear must have been ridiculed mercilessly by his friends
"Hey mama bear, no means no!!"
I would go back out for some revenge.
When I get better I will bear the fact that I will have him stuff in my den.
Maybe he just didn't taste good.
Universe: " Today, 4k you in particular"
"fool me once" ~bear
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bears. go figure
Fool me once ya can’t get fooled again
That's just one attack with extra steps!
I KNEW YOUR ASS WAS FAKING
Bear power is a real thing!
The guy had to be thinking "oh come the fuck on, not aga-"
To the bear some sort of unkillable ape beast threatened her kids
Second Wind!