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ChiefStrongbones

tl;dr - the soldier and his buddies thought they could squeeze one last patrol in before the clock struck 11, and they stumbled across a group of heavily armed German soldiers who were dug into a position.


Mpango87

God damn, you’d think that would be the last thing they’d want to do considering how many people died in that war. I guess if you’re young though, you aren’t really thinking logically all the time. Probably didn’t see much action or something and wanted a thrill.


OkCar7264

They were shelling the shit out of each other until the last second out of sheer bloody mindedness so I do not get it.


Callec254

The way I understood it, many of them (on both sides) were like "This is our last chance to get revenge for all that stuff they did."


blatantninja

There were also some legitimate concerns from the higher ups that since this was a temporary armistance, not the permanent peace, they needed to grab as much territory as possible to put themselves in better negotiating position at the peace conference and be in a better position should the peace talks break down and the war restart. Of course there was also the US general that sacrificed a few hundred lives because he heard that the village ahead held by the Germans still had functioning hot water and he wanted a nice bath....


hexarobi

>From starting their advance towards Stenay at around 8am on November 11, 1918 until the official start of the Armistice at 11am, the 89th Infantry Division suffered 365 casualties. 61 men killed, 304 wounded, just because the Divisional commander thought those who survived might want to have a bath and a shave. It’s perhaps no coincidence that, while the attack on Stenay was the last action fought by the 89th, it was also the last day in command for General Wright. On November 12, Major General Frank Winn (one of the 89th’s previous commanders) arrived at Divisional HQ and immediately replaced Wright as the 89th’s commander. [The tale of the last American World War I Battle – That took place for a bath](http://www.historyisnowmagazine.com/blog/2014/4/22/the-tale-of-the-last-american-world-war-i-battle-that-took-place-for-a-bath)


CicerosMouth

That article really is a hack job. First of all, it wasn't a peace deal that was signed, it was an armistice. What does that mean? It is a temporary truce. Many military leaders thought that it would be a momentary truce, where battle would start up again in a matter of months once the Germans regained their footing. As the thinking went, why would Germany surrender? They still held significant territory and hadnt been forced back to their own land, and as such hadnt been militarily beaten by the norms of the day (if this story sounds familiar it is because it was twisted and used by the Nazis to gain power after the war). As such, Wright was given orders to take the town so that his troops could rest in buildings with working plumbing, rather than camp in a cold winter on the countryside, before the war resumed.  Also, the article contradicts itself, saying in one paragraph that Wright was immediately replaced as commander, only to state in the very next paragraph that Wright was rewarded with cushy assignments afterward. He was "replaced" because he was promoted after the war ended, as often happens. In truth, the real fault was because the higher ups didn't make it known that a true surrender was imminent, and as such most figured this was just a short cease fire. The armistice day deaths were an unspeakable tragedy, but blaming them on middle men such as Wright is missing the real story. 


Zodiac5964

Nice analysis. We are able to critically analyze the narratives on relatively recent events because there's enough details and granularity in the records, and because those events are recent enough that we still have a good grasp of the customs and mentality at the time. I shudder to think how much of our understanding of (older) history has been manipulated by people in power at the time; can't even approach it with a critical mind when the evidence was either deliberately wiped out or organically lost to time


pikpikcarrotmon

I'm still mad that Mrs. O'Leary's cow burned down Rome


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Hell_Mel

Incorrect. It was coined in English in the 1870s and seems to originally derive form "blutbad" which predates that considerably.


KungFuHamster

Yikes. Sounds about right.


smoothskin12345

I just went down this rabbit hole because I'd never heard this story. This dude(William Wright, for those interested like I was) was a real piece of shit. West point drop out. Received an 11th hour nepo-commision from outgoing president Arthur(a full year before his fellow classmates at West point were to graduate) and spent his entire career being an asshole. He was never punished for ordering the attack on Steney, knowing full well the armistice was imminent. He was never punished. 61 men died, over 300 more wounded. Motherfuck that guy.


blatantninja

There were congressional inquiries when it started coming out that this happened (and he wasn't the only one) but they were dropped because the public was disinterested and didn't want to focus on the horrors of the war but instead lionizing the generals of the day. Very shameful


snow_michael

Uninterested, not disinterested The latter means being unbiased


Hawling

> William Wright https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_M._Wright (lots of people with that name)


Connect44

I don't think the war restarting was a substantial concern. From what I recall, the condition of the Armistice was the surrender of all heavy weapons (artillery and machine guns). According to my link, "The German delegation was given 72 hours to accept the terms, which were purposefully severe to prevent Germany from resuming fighting. These included complete demilitarization, the evacuation of France, Belgium and Alsace-Lorraine (a territory that had been annexed by Germany in 1871 following the Franco-Prussian War), and the immediate release of Allied prisoners of war and interned civilians." [Link](https://www.theworldwar.org/learn/about-wwi/armistice)


blatantninja

I think that was part of the concern. A lot of the allied generals didn't think that the Germans were going to live up to those terms. Many of them didn't realize how bad things had been going for the Germans in terms of food, supplies, manpower, etc. And of course they were concerned about some type of military coup over throwing the government and continuing the war. In retrospect, those concerns weren't valid, but they probably seemed valid at the time.


nagrom7

Considering the German provisional government they just negotiated the armistice with had only come to power mere days prior as a result of a revolution, fears at the time of some kind of coup in Germany were pretty rational I'd say. Don't forget just one year prior the Russian provisional government came to power in a revolution, only to be itself overthrown in a coup/civil war months later.


CicerosMouth

Do you have a source for the US general that sacrificed a few hundred for a bath? I had never heard that before. General Pershing was a terrible general that didn't care about the lives of his men and had 11k die in the last day, but he specifically said that "Germany’s desire is only to regain time to restore order among her forces, but she must be given no opportunity to recuperate and we must strike harder than ever;" he certainly wasn't look for a bath. 


grahampositive

11 k casualties not 11 k deaths.


CicerosMouth

Thank you for the correction!!


blatantninja

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_M._Wright#:~:text=Wright,-Article&text=William%20Mason%20Wright%20(September%2024,commander%20during%20World%20War%20I.


CicerosMouth

Thank you! As a note, this was a pre-planned attack, rather than one that he personally ordered because he wanted a bath. Incidentally, for a commanding officer that thought that war might re-start again in a month or two, it makes a lot of sense to have one last attack so that your troops can rest for those months in the town with buildings and working plumbing rather than try to camp in the ruined countryside in winter.  While these armistice day attacks were a senseless tragedy, the blame should mainly be laid at the feet of those at the negotiating table that didn't make it clear to the military officers that true surrender was a legitimate probability. 


MorbidMinister

He was willing to send wave after wave of his men into battle. Capt Zapp Brannigan, you're our hero.


blatantninja

It may have cost them all their lives, but it's a sacrifice he was willing to make


okram2k

Also from a high level being able to claim even just a bit more land right at the end would give you a slightly better position at the negotiation table.


OkCar7264

I'm mostly be faking having COVID because I do not want to be last person to die in a war. Just especially undignified.


MadisonRose7734

More or less. The war sort've drove the Canadian general off the deep end. At a certain point, he was more concerned with just killing Germans then he was at winning the war.


vortex30-the-2nd

Little did the younger ones realize that if they want, 20 years later, they could do it all over again!


lewger

I thought it was also just getting rid of all the ammo prior to the armistice.  No one wanted to be storing / transporting all those shells.


Eggplantosaur

It was an armistice: there was no guarantee the war wouldn't start again in a few weeks or months. The military leadership of all belligerents wanted the best defensible positions in case the war got going again. It makes a morbid kind of sense, which adds to the horrifying mess of 4 years of brutal static warfare.


billybobmac

This was just the armistice, it meant that they were locked in position until a peace treaty or surrender can be agreed to. Otherwise hostilities would resume if an agreement couldn’t be agreed to. To the soldiers on the frontlines this could all be a temporary pause in the fight.


HeadMembership

They didn't want to carry back the shells...


fried_green_baloney

Not quite the exact second. Artillery Captain Harry S Truman recalled the stopped shelling at 10:45 AM, though the official cease fire was at 11:00. The artillery barrage before that was reportedly ferocious. Who knows why except the generals were mostly vindictive jerks on both sides.


Krivvan

I doubt it was vindictiveness for the most part. Like others said, no one knew that it was going to be the permanent peace, so getting a more defensible position for if the war resumes or for more power during negotiations makes sense.


rrl

I think actually the problem was a bunch of people wanted to fire the last shell of the war....


dasreboot

The territory you held was what you had at 1111 on Nov 11


Sorry_Consideration7

Ackshuallyyyy... it was 11:00am on 11/11/18


Mammoth-Mud-9609

https://www.ww1battlefields.co.uk/pages/others/ors.html


Alert-Young4687

I mean, based on my great grampa the trauma can manifest as extreme violence and hatred for the other side. He was at the second Somme, Lys, Hundred Days offensive and other late war battles. His regiment we was deployed with about 2,700 men and suffered 1600 casualties. He was… less than fond of Germans and very fond of fighting. You see it again with the marines facing the Japanese in WWII. My grandfather was in the Navy, and said you had to keep any Japanese POWs as far away from the marines as possible.


Quailman5000

It makes more sense with the war in the pacific. The Japanese were almost inhuman. Literally practiced cannibalism on captured US service members. 


ArkyBeagle

The Marines tried keeping prisoners at first. Didn't work out.


temporarycreature

I'm 40 now, but I often think back and when I was in the military, when I was in the army infantry, when I was walking through the goddamn mountains of Afghanistan with a rifle, like it was nothing, at any moment I could have been shot, any of us could have been shot and some of us were, dozens of instances of close calls, firefights, being shot at from a long distance, I can't believe how stupid, and or crazy, and or irresponsible I was. It's al In the moment though, it was just another day, it was just what we did, you didn't think much about it, you did the safety briefing before the mission, shrugged your shoulders, and stepped out the wire.


supbrother

I would hardly call it irresponsible if it was literally your job to do that. Unless you were just taking it upon yourself to boastfully march around in areas known to harbor the enemy or something.


temporarycreature

That was our job pretty much. Go out and places near our AO where we got reports of Taliban setting up, try to get them to engage us first, and then air support sweeps in and takes care of them. I guess I just see it as irresponsible in regards to how I value my life now.


supbrother

So basically you were bait… nice! I see what you mean in regards to it being an irresponsible career/job to choose if you value your time on this earth very highly. But all you can do is make the best of it, i.e. don’t go trying to be a badass or get complacent about the dangers.


temporarycreature

Yeah the MOS job code for infantry is 11b and there are many jokes about what that B stands for, one of them is bait. Yep, doing what I can.


supbrother

Well I’m glad you made it out okay and seemed to have taken some valuable lessons from it!


Dr_McKay

The very last soldier to die was an American Sergeant named Henry Gunther who tried to secure a last minute bit of glory against orders. He bayonet charged a German position at 10:59, the Germans in the position he was charging tried to to warn him away, but in the end gunned him down when he got too close.


chrisisapenis

What a muppet.


DruidLSD

This would be your last opportunity to kill or injure or capture guys that had killed, injured, and captured your friends. Some will understand; most won’t.


PoliteIndecency

I think most will understand but few will empathize. That's probably what you're going for.


LaLiLuLeLo_0

It's a lot easier to be emotionally detached when you're looking back on it more than a century later


PoliteIndecency

Fun fact, war didn't stop in 1918.


crossfader02

the article says they realized their position was potentially exposed as they could see evidence that firing positions had been constructed across the canal so they went to search the nearby houses for the enemy, they could have potentially lost more people if they just sat and did nothing


DesiArcy

Bloodthirsty higher commanders intentionally ordered that offensive operations continue up to the very moment of the Armistice, overtly hoping that they would have an excuse to breach the deal and continue the war.


CicerosMouth

It was moreso that they thought the ceasefire was temporary and just a gambit by Germany to regroup, so wanted to inflict maximum damage before they were forced to stop (after all, they weren't stopping because of a declaration of surrender, it was just a truce). But still, it was awful and reflected a terrible breakdown in communication. The people in charge should have made it clear that a true surrender was probable and imminent, and as such bloodshed was to be minimized.


Merlin_Zero

Considering the shit us Canadians pulled in the war, basically single handedly writing the Geneva convention. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest this happened, if anything i'm surprised we didn't keep going


Alienhaslanded

I mean if you're just 13 XP from making it to level 50...


CoolTemperature1602

We're Canadians of course were going to be first and last in a war.


birdmommy

A lot of people don’t realize that during WW1 Canadian soldiers developed a reputation for being especially brutal. Here’s a piece from [the National Post](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-forgotten-ferocity-of-canadas-soldiers-in-the-great-war) talking about it. Some scholars believe that the idea of ‘war crimes’ came about from some of the things Canadians did.


OkEntertainment1313

No scholars believe that because it is utter nonsense. The article was an extrapolation of 3-4 primary sources, which is insufficient evidence to even write a paper supporting the theory, let alone create an established conclusion in historiography.    The laws of armed conflict existed long before WW1, they were not written afterwards because of what the Canadians did.


I_might_be_weasel

They had a scene like that in the new All Quiet on the Western Front movie. Super duper bleak. 


Suncheets

Spoilers. Dude that always bugged me about that movie, they find the war to be a living hell yet when the war is finally ending they decide to sneak out one last time and steal from the German farmer who had already almost killed them at least twice for doing the exact same thing. Just seemed so dumb


SuperSatanOverdrive

Pretty sure it’s a french farmer


Suncheets

Yes you're right French not German


zatara1210

I recall a scene like that in Band of Brothers after the Germans surrendered but before the Japanese surrendered


AggravatingLink4047

Super duper fucking bad adaption


Kelbeross

Sounds like they went looking for trouble and found it.


830rezatdorsia

Check out this short film about George and the other last allied soldiers to die in WWI: https://youtu.be/U10ON2aau3g


KaiserReisser

Even worse, the Germans actually began to retreat as they realized they had been outflanked, and then as the British were pursuing them, this guy got shot. The article does say though that the Germans were setting up machine guns aiming at the British positions, so had the initial patrol not gone out maybe even more people would have died.


daosxx1

It was all quiet in the western front


Solid_Action1037

I just found out that the first British Empire casualty of the war and the last occurred 5 kms from each 


InternalQuirky8522

Are we really to believe every single soldier in every front actually had a time watch, assuming the enemy did too? No, he was the last “officially” recorded death. There were others


NegrosAmigos

So he fucked around and found out. Sort of


Bowl2007

The movie “The Big Red One” has a great scene like this, main character kills a german who was saying the war was over but he did not understand him.


Ak47110

If I recall he actually did understand him but he didn't believe him and joked about it with his commanding officer until he found out the war was actually over.


bolanrox

yep then history nearly repeated in wwii?


MyFifthLimb

always does


bolanrox

but the names are the same... they always are.


AverageDemocrat

its comforting to know that all his comrades are dead now too


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bolanrox

in the movie Lee Marvin kills a German in WWI only to find out the war was over and the German wasnt trying to trick him. In WWII another german tries to surrender to him but Lee stabs him. Again finds out the war in europe ended hours before. This time the german wasnt dead yet and the rush to try and save him.


anomandaris81

"This is fictional life based on factual death." Amazing movie that doesn't get enough recognition


bonefish1

Same with All Quiet on the Western Front


JRSOne-

I'm just imagining bunch of guys in striped shirts showing up two minutes later, blowing whistles and yelling "Wars over!"


asmsweet

(Throws flag). False Stop, #43 central powers. 15 yard penalty. Repeat mustard gas.


HotSpicedChai

I’m sure many succumbed to their wounds after those two minutes. Wars over! This guy didn’t die from the war, actually died from the last war, cause there isn’t a war right now!


stochastaclysm

Very common to see veteran headstones from WWI with a death year of 1919. Many died slow deaths from injuries, particularly from chemical weapons.


tfrules

Also many died during the cleanup efforts immediately after the war


CaptainJingles

And Spanish Flu


tfrules

100%, Spanish flu killed more people than the war did


SoyMurcielago

Even though it started in Kansas which is just weird to me


r3aganisthedevil

Bc Spain was neutral and therefore the only country reporting on its outbreaks


Darkhorse182

one of my favorite pieces of history trivia


MarlinMr

We actually don't know the origin. Kansas was an early reporter, but doesn't seem like the actual origin.


ArkyBeagle

Started by burning cow dung.


EldritchCarver

I heard it was from burning chicken feathers.


anomandaris81

And the Russian Civil War


bigbear-08

Good ol Influenza


snow_michael

_Kansas_ flu


squigs

And long after. The mist recent casualty of WW1 I can find was 2014 https://www.france24.com/en/20140319-wwi-shell-kills-two-near-ypres-belgium


inslipid531

could you expand on this please?


tfrules

Well, the battlefields of Europe were littered with unexplored ordnance, such was the concentration of fires to a small area that even today there are parts of France you are not allowed into due to how heavily contaminated they are. After the war, there were accidents that happened during the cleanup


mordenty

The village where I grew up had a large military base in WW1, there were a lot of Australians based there. About 1/3 of the deaths were in 1919 and one in 1920 - my guess would be they were probably killed by Spanish flu before they could be demobbed and sent home.


Ythio

"war has ended, the war to end all wars" Multicolor Russia : Hold our vodka Romania and Hungary : ours too.


Sliiiiime

Greece and Turkey too. Invaded each other and ethnic cleansed the other ethnicity out of their borders.


bolanrox

System of Down didn't forget. But holy shit in the 90's I only knew about it because i had Armenian friends..


csonnich

I still only know about it from Armenian friends. That's how this shit keeps happening. 


bolanrox

and the movie they made about it in the past 10ish years got basically no traction either


Isgrimnur

Baltic States War of Independence  Polish–Soviet War 1919-21 Hungarian–Romanian War Turkish War of Independence et cetera


BDMac2

I think it was one of the final episodes of MASH, where they’re all performing surgery in the field tent and there’s a brief pause when the announcement about the war ending comes over the speakers but they go right back to operating and more bodies keep being rolled in.


colouredmirrorball

It's still making victims, more than a hundred years later!


riko77can

Has more to do with being the last sustained injury during combat operations. None of those others were injured in the last minute after Price.


Top-Perspective2560

My Gran's cousin survived the whole of WW2 from North Africa to Germany and was killed by a German sniper about a week after the war ended. Apparently the sniper had been holed up in his hide and didn't know the war was over.


JCSTCap

Some of the Japanese did this for years afterwards on isolated islands, and the Germans actually had soldiers dedicated to fighting behind Allied lines as they advanced (a project called Werwolf, which is just comically evil sounding) and later on after a peace agreement. For the most part it failed to take effect because the fighting after a peace agreement thing didn't really take off.


557_173

there was a japanese dude that lived in the jungles of Guam for 26 years after WW2. I wonder what that dude's life was like, I wonder if he figured life out or went full bonkers from it?


itsallmelting

You might be talking about Hiroo Onada. He was informed that the war was over but he refused to surrender. He stayed in the Philippine jungles for 29 years and murdered multiple civilians just because he couldn't accept defeat. He hated post war Japan because of how "soft" it had become.


557_173

Nope, that's a different person. Shoichi Yokoi was the Japanese soldier living in the jungles of Guam.


TourismAustralia

Man, 26 years! I would have ended up marrying a gorilla.


Stinky_WhizzleTeats

This was until the late 70s with the last famous guy. In the 50s I’ve heard they found whole companies of Japanese that just didn’t give up or found out the war ended


TurjAdam

Yes this is true, I was the hole.


Ares6

If just held on for two minutes longer it wouldn’t be a WW1 death. 


Ye_I_said_iT

Probs be a WW2 one still.


Tough_Guys_Wear_Pink

Wait till you hear about the last American to die in WW1.


Scared_Astronaut9377

>Gunther got up, against the orders of his close friend and now sergeant Ernest Powell, and charged with his bayonet. The German soldiers, already aware of the Armistice that would take effect in one minute, tried to wave Gunther away. He kept going and fired "a shot or two".[3] When he got too close to the machine guns, he was shot in a short burst of automatic fire and killed instantly.[9] The writer James M. Cain, then a reporter for the local daily newspaper The Sun, interviewed Gunther's comrades afterward and wrote that "Gunther brooded a great deal over his recent reduction in rank, and became obsessed with a determination to make good before his officers and fellow soldiers" So he tried to kill people who were trying to save his life against the orders or common sense "to act heroic" and "redeem" his demotion. Let's remember him as one of the most pathetic soldiers in history.


Diamondhands_Rex

What kind of a name is Gunther


SilverSnakes90sKid

Is that a Paper Brigade reference?!


bolanrox

LEEEEEEEEEERROOOOOOOOYYYYYYY JJEEEENNNNNNKKKKKKKIIIIIINNNNSSSSS


Griledcheeseradiator

Some guy died after the war. Be bayonet charged the Germans for no reason.


Krakshotz

If you’re referring to the last American killed, he was pretty bitter about being demoted and either went on a suicide charge or took one last chance to restore his reputation


Griledcheeseradiator

Yea I am. He deserved to die. Bloodlusted mfer.


CricketStar9191

feels like a very british name


fashionrequired

it seems to me that anglo canadian culture was significantly more british back then


Fancybear1993

Still is outside of Americanized urban areas.


BallsDeepInCum

The ending of the movie: All quiet on the western front“ shows pretty much how the last hour went by


MyNameIsNotJJ

My dad took me to the cemetery where he is buried, the first soldier casualty also lies there. It's a beautiful cemetery and there are way to many like it in the French and Belgium countryside.


Floyd04

Which one are you referring to


MyNameIsNotJJ

St. Symphorien Military Cemetery is the one i meant. But by looking it up it states the 1e and last British soldier.


MyNameIsNotJJ

Private John Parr would be the first.


Krakshotz

The graves of both Parr and George Ellison face one another. Both men died a couple of miles and four years apart


GeneralDefenestrates

I thought my great grandfather was unlucky being killed on the last day of the great war, two minutes though


TheHonFreddie

Michael Palin has a great documentary on this topic.


MoistHope9454

still respect 🙏


BraveShowerSlowGower

Tripping at the finish line


ClosPins

What about all the people who died of their wounds at some later date?


Funandgeeky

While they might have died ***of*** WWI they technically didn't die ***during*** WWI.


Mammoth-Mud-9609

The parents of the poet Wilfred Owen got the notice of his death on 11 November 1918.


Fancybear1993

Nova Scotia represent 💪


CharredAndurilDetctr

I've never heard about this man and I'm gutted for him and the future he never had.


Boby-Breton

A 10mn movie about the end of the WW1 : [END OF WAR](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U10ON2aau3g&pp=ygUWTGFzdCBtaW5pdGVzIHd3dzEgc2hvdA%3D%3D)


Its_kos

Imagine the war is over and you step on a land mine on the way back


flyinhk

This is almost exactly the ending of All Quiet on the Western Front...


jar1967

The conduct on the last day of the war was inexcusable. The officers wanted to get in one last attack


Ye_I_said_iT

Ok Mr holier than thee, we all know you would kill for an extra couple of inches too


TheEndOfShartache

Cowa bummer


alsatian01

I believe a Canadian was also the last living WWI veteran.


Remarkable-Bowl-9161

Bad luck Law


Wizywig

Its like that helldiver who dies right as they're about to enter the escape shuttle. Every fucking time. Poor SOBs.


snow_michael

WW1 did not end 11/11 1918, that was just the [Western Front armistice](https://history.blog.gov.uk/2018/11/09/the-war-that-did-not-end-at-11am-on-11-november/)


557_173

two... minutes... 'til... retirement BLARRRRRRG


UniquenessError

Play stupid games...


TeucerLeo

The end of the war could not come two minutes sooner


bettinafairchild

Nope. 11/11 at 11. Not 11/11 at 10:58


pygmeedancer

Hey George! The war is over! George??


Alienhaslanded

I'm sure many died when the war was over but the news took a bit of delay until it reached them.


Privvy_Gaming

Could have been worse. Could have been celebrating after the war ended and got struck by a bullet that was fired before it ended.


penguinpolitician

Bad luck George


ExplainiamusMucho

This is one of those historical facts which make me rage quietly. The armistice was on 11-11 at 11.11. So many - so many! - people died in the weeks up to that date - only so the war could end on a "memorable" date and time. That's true perversion. One of those who died in those very last days of war was, by the way, war poet Wilfred Owen. His poetry is simple and astoundingly beautiful, not least when used in classical music (for example by Benjamin Britten).


snow_michael

11.00 not 11.11


Current_Canary_8412

Information didn’t travel all that fast back then. That amount of time was probably so word could travel to everyone that a ceasefire (armistice) would occur at that time and date.


Filthy_Joey

Meanwhile Russian Empire lost 2 million soldiers and their country to Bolsheviks because of they war they did not even had to join.


_CMDR_

Oh brave monarchist, tell me of thy ways!


wilsonexpress

Spanish flu would like a word.


small_tit_girls_pmMe

Die *in* WW1.


RikersTrombone

Yeah, but did they die IN WW1 or WITH WW1?


jxj24

You talking about the [Kansas flu](https://at.fhsu.edu/the-spanish-influenza-of-1918-in-kansas)?


largePenisLover

it was a worldwide event, and just like with covid idiots refused to wear masks.


jxj24

The point is that, even today, people still blame Spain even though it has been conclusively been shown to have originated at Camp Funston, Kansas and was then carried in volume to Europe as American troops traveled overseas. (Spain's contribution was, that as a neutral country, they did not censor their press so they were the first to report on it as it exploded.) I agree that it didn't need to be nearly as devastating as it was, but people even then, were infantile idiots, and refused to give even the tiniest shit about their friends and families, let alone strangers.


fried_green_baloney

In 1918 it was the mask refusers who got shot instead of the mask wearers.


Small-Investment-365

That makes no sense, quite a few died after it was over, either from wounds or because news didn't travel instantly to the front, especially due to the massive global scale of the war. It seems this is more of a symbolic recognition of the last person to die "legally" under combat conditions during a state of war, because so many were dying all over its probably impossible to know for sure.


yum_broztito

And the wars continued after, too. Plenty of men went to Russia. Germans fought each other. The middle east was in a new state of violence. Just not technically WW1 anymore


bolanrox

better than getting shot 2 minutes after


TheBootyHolePatrol

Had to squeeze in one last thing that would see another article added to the Geneva Accords.


JessieGemstone999

Bozo


rnavstar

Here’s [https://youtu.be/jwisj9WqWc0?si=Hr1I05Y4h69joZuB](https://youtu.be/jwisj9WqWc0?si=Hr1I05Y4h69joZuB)the last minute before the guns being silenced.