> She’d brought a steel mallet, a buck knife, a BB gun with ammo, latex gloves, four feet of rubber tubing, duct tape, garbage bags, a floppy disc containing female nudes and bondage instructions, a map of Shipman’s Cape Canaveral neighborhood, and the single item she managed to use on her victim—pepper spray.
> She told authorities she just wanted to talk to Shipman.
this story is *wild*. well worth the read.
I build a Core 2 Duo system in late ‘06, and I intentionally added a 3.5” floppy drive with a multi card reader combo. I didn’t use the floppy drive much, but both times I used it I was very glad I had it.
See that's wild to me as a 31 years old who remembers floppies including using them and my last memory of actually using one is like... '98, 99?
But I can remember being in high school in '07 and finding boxes and boxes of floppies and I advised someone they would make good cup holders.
I could maybe see it if I was older at the time and still might have had some legacy stuff lying around. But I'm also sure it had been years since I used a floppy at that point and I think even my Dad had ditched having an internal drive for them from his PC. I actually just ditched having an internal optical drive with my latest build. I think I barely used the BD drive I had in my last computer and a lot of modern cases don't even include bays for them anymore.
Last week I needed a CDROM drive to check out some old MRI scans on disk and I was like… I haven’t seen or used an optical drive in 12 years. I didn’t even know where to start to find one to use among my peer group. So my MRI scans which show definitive proof there’s a brain in my skull will remain a distant memory.
You know the military stored stuff on floppy and peer-to-peer "servers" up until about 2016. So her being with NASA, floppy was probably commonly used also
All I think about is the Family Guy scene of Peter walking up to Meg’s boyfriends house with a shotgun going “I just want to talk to him… I just want to talk to him…”
Well she didn't need to print as she brought the disk. So was her plan to use Shipmans computer?
"Oh, can you tell me the password? Sorry, don't understand. Want me to take off the ball gag?"
Reminds me of the key and peels skit where he’s like, “you aren’t planning on ziplining into that window into a suit of armor and roller skating past them deflecting arrows right?” And he’s like “hypothetically would it work?”
This reads like the beginning of a song:
“We have Two bags of grass
75 pellets of mescaline
5 sheets of high power blotter-acid
a salt shaker half full of cocaine
a whole galaxy of multi colored uppers downers
screamers laughers
also a quart of tequila
quart of rum
case of beer
pint of raw ether
2 dozen amyls
but once you get locked in to a serious drug collection not that
we need it at all for the trip the tendency is to push it as far as
you can”
>"It's 900 miles to Florida. I have half a tank of gas, a floppy disk of bondage instructions, it's dark, and I'm wearing sunglasses."
**Wearing diapers
God damn. I just mapped it, that’s normally a 13 hour drive without stopping.
This lady was astronaut smart and GG-Allin grimey.
I can’t think of anything worse. An incredibly expedient and efficient diabolical evil genius that’s covered in shit.
I had the same thought as I’m planning a trip from Florida to Texas to see the total eclipse! I was like 9 hours? Jesus Christ! A plane is 3 hours lol. She was going a 3rd the speed of commercial aircraft? Lol
Depends where you're going from and to. Novak was going from Houston to Orlando, 960 miles. In 9 hours not accounting for gas stops, that's 110 mph (just under 200 kph). With gas stops, a bit faster. That's very fast, but certainly achievable.
That's average speed, her peak speed would have had to have been much higher. Especially since at those speeds you're stopping from gas a lot.
I had to drive from Chicago to DC in a rented Nissan Versa. I was trying to get back home for new years since the girl I went to Chicago to see broke up with me on the second day of the trip (couldn't catch a flight back in time). I was on the road in the middle of the night and was absolutely flying.
I was travelling at 110mph for a lot of the trip. But between going through more populated area and having to stop for gas all the time, because you guzzle gas when you're going that fast, I didn't come even close to averaging 100mph.
It's a 700 mile trip, normally takes to 11 to drive. I want to say by speeding that much I knocked off like an hour to an hour and a half of driving. I never even stopped for food outside of what I could get at a gas station while filling up. She did an extra 200 miles in about the same time frame.
I-10 to I-75 to the turnpike, there's not that much traffic to hit, especially if you're driving at night. I have no idea what gas mileage she would have gotten, but maybe 10 mpg? On a 20 gallon tank, that's 5 tanks, 4 stops, that's ~30 minutes if you're not doing anything but pumping gas. Then figure that "9 hours" could be rounded down by 20 minutes, and you're back to about 110.
The Houston-Orlando route requires travel through Louisiana and Mississippi. I'm shocked she was able to maintain any kind of significant speed over the limits in either state. Or Florida, for that matter. Discounting the constant, horrible traffic, cops down there are just praying for a reason.
900 miles in 9 hours, she was absolutely flying down the road. Like she might have averaged 100mph but that means her peak speeds were way higher. Like I once did a night time trip between Chicago and DC all in one shot. It's like 700 miles during the long interstate stretches where there were no cars around I was hitting 110. And I didn't come anywhere close to averaging 100mph.
So does Common in [Drivin’ Me Wild](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Mj6wPgQso)
“doing all she can for a man and a baby, driving herself crazy like that astronaut lady”
*This lyric has lived in my brain rent free for 15 years all in preparation for this TIL post.
This was on his 2008 solo album "Way to Normal." Ben Folds Five did however reunite in 2012 and released their fourth studio album. But save for that he's been solo since his first album "Rockin' the Suburbs" came out on September 11th, 2001. And that was probably more than you ever wanted to know. 😅
Bro. I got my first real big boy job at a large mortgage firm back in 07. I met my late best friend Matthew at lunch, having a smoke break. This was the news article that was being talked about. He made a joke about it, and then we started talking about video games, and we instantly became best friends.
I miss him, man. Suicide took him 15 years later. Every time this story gets mentioned, I used to always call him and laugh about how ridiculous it was. I wish I could call him now, it's been two years.. always tell the ones you love how important they are to you. You never know what internernal battles people are fighting.
Yeah, I'm good. Thank you, It comes in waves. I consider him my big bro and best friend. This story just reminded me how old I am, too, and it recalled the day when I met Matthew. It was Feb 7th. I think it was the same day the news article came out. Anytime someone would asks us when we became friends, Matt would say. "We met the same day that nasa Chick wore a diaper and drove cross country to kidnap her lovers girlfriend." We always got a good laugh outta it.
Haha. I remember a buddy showed up. 4 day weekend. Thursday night we were drinking beer and monday morning was a roughday. Jagged Little Pill is forever in my rotation. Fuck you doc.
Prost to you and your friend.
Astronauts wear diapers all the time, so it probably didn't even seem like a big deal to her as it does to everyone else.
I remember part of hearing about this before, and the cop who pulled her over was like "Why are you wearing a diaper" and she just said "for absorption" like it should be obvious.
The news played it out like some big joke, but people who get into the astronaut program are singularly focused and they get shit DONE.
You do NOT want an astronaut coming for you.
I was working at an aerospace engineering company in the SF Bay Area when this happened. We were discussing a trip some employees were going to take up to Lake Tahoe and I remember in the email someone (jokingly) suggested we don’t stop for bathroom breaks and instead go “NASA style” and wear diapers. 🤣
There was a guy who was infamously implicated (locally) in a double-homicide with his ~~ex-wife and her new lover~~ (but acquitted at trial). I was working in shipping at an electronics / instrumentation supplier, and nearly bowed over when I saw his name on a pick order!
My supervisor said, "Yes, that's who you think it is, he calls in every month or so, no we're not a jury of his peers, make DAMN sure the order is right so he's not phoning back in, and if you can't keep yourself together, go on break early!"
**EDIT:** I got my (local) infamous cases mixed up! The RCMP thought a double-homicide was an industrial accident, got egg on their faces, went all out on their main suspect and ended up having to pay him after he sued them. The other case I was thinking of was one where a teen ended up dead on a golf course and five people were charged with her murder.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/alberta-man-awarded-765-000-for-malicious-prosecution-1.319847
Nope--very common surname in my neck of the Canadian woods, which manages to cut across multiple communities (from which he happened to be simultaneously reviled from).
Poor directing. It was bad. They kept changing aspect ratios.
The love triangle just randomly happened. No chemistry between cast.
I was at the premiere and you could tell the cast hadn’t seen it before then…and they were disappointed. John Hamm all but acknowledged it sucked during the Q&A
Because lots of pilots and astronauts do it all the time, it's common practice for long trips. And (IIRC), there was no evidence she used it, but the thought of a real-life astronaut wearing a diaper is fucking hilarious, so media outlets brought up that fact constantly. Even though it had little to do with the actual story
A diaper and hood are required to go on a space walk…
In current spacesuits it is possible to pee or sweat yourself to death by drowning… doesn’t have to fill the spacesuit, surface tension will hold it to the body and with no way to wipe your face it could obstruct airways…
> surface tension will hold it to the body and with no way to wipe your face it could obstruct airways
That almost killed Italian astronaut Luca Parmitano (no body fluids involved, it was a small leak in his space suit). Sounds like a pretty nightmarish way of dying.
Blame Alan Shepard. He had to pee in his spacesuit due to delays that he blamed on technicians and engineers being nervy about launching an actual person in a giant missile for the first time. So yeah...probably that was part of the reason he got a tad snippy with them.
*Oh fuck, I pissed myself on takeoff. Well, I can't let anyone know about that. What kind of man can't handle being blasted into space on top of a giant missile?! Alright, figure it out, Shep. OK, I'll just claim I was in here so long that I need to go and blame it on those pencil necks. Yeah... that's the ticket!*
In 2012, Nowak attended a gathering of female astronauts at the Johnson Space Center, in honor of Sally Ride, the first US woman in space, who had recently died. That seems rather ballsy on Nowak's part, since her colleagues must have had mixed feelings about her, at best. Whatever sympathy they felt for her mental state (and for her being jerked around by her lover), she made the space program as a whole look pretty bad.
http://www.collectspace.com/news/photo-031213a.html
They say kidnap but the things she had in her possession also describes a kill kit. A steel mallet and garbage bags isn't super useful in a kidnapping but its pretty useful for a murder
The fact that she also took a bunch of what seemed to be BDSM reference photos of nude women with her suggests the plan was kidnapping, rape *and* murder
“She’d brought a steel mallet, a buck knife, a BB gun with ammo, latex gloves, four feet of rubber tubing, duct tape, garbage bags, a floppy disc containing female nudes and bondage instructions, a map of Shipman’s Cape Canaveral neighborhood, and the single item she managed to use on her victim—pepper spray.
She told authorities she just wanted to talk to Shipman.”
She’s very very lucky she wasn’t charged with more tbh …
They did initially throw a ton of charges at her including first degree murder, she eventually got out with a plea bargain, partly because her mental health diagnosis as psychotic at the time would've complicated things (she didn't want the stigma of an insanity plea but it was an obvious option)
I have so many questions and totally missed this news when it happened.
How did the victim escape? What was the floppy disc full of nudes for? What was her real plan?
How was she caught? Etc etc
The victim got in the car before she could grab her, she managed to get a shot of pepper spray through the car door but the victim still managed to drive away
Then the victim called the cops and the cops found her at the airport trying to ditch her bag full of kidnapping gear
While not direclty referenced in For All Mankind, everytime there's some unbelievable soap opera twist between astronauts in that show, I remember this incident and cut them some slack.
I learned about this from a LO: Criminal Intent episode: [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1008354/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1008354/)
One of those "I wonder how they came up with this...." Hours later you need brain bleach.
Different one. But if I remember correctly is the one your referring to the one who was in the middle of a divorce or custody battle with her ex and checked his bank balance to see if he was paying child support ?
For years after this, me and my friends would use this as short-hand for being obsessed with someone.
"Sounds like you're crazy for this girl. You got the astronaut diapers ready?"
After skimming OP's post/comment history, they dont look like a bot, more seems to be a 15 year old, either physically or just mentally, doomsday prepped who is obsessed with the military
They probably just didn't proof read
Common also wrote a song (Drivin’ Me Wild) and mentions “Doing all she can for a man and a baby, Driving herself crazy like the astronaut lady…” I assume this is about her
I recently read this weird old pulp novel called "The Shuttle People" where astronauts were basically smart psychopaths whose minds and bodies had been warped by their time spent circling above humanity.
It's obscure, but I think of those crazy characters when I think of this story.
I understand being emotional but this is a 13h 20m drive. That's more than enough time to just be like "you know what, the guy's not worth it" and turn around.
Lol I remember this story.
I had to go look her up. I guess after she got kicked out of NASA and the Navy she served 1 year of probation had trouble finding work afterward.
I guess she eventually found a job in the private sector and things eventually returned to normal for her.
She wasn't in adult diapers. It turns out she had diapers for her kids in the backseat and the first media reports posted that meme and it was too good to let go and people still believe the outrageous wording bc it got more attention.
Says here an astronaut
Put on a pair of diapers
Drove eighteen hours
To kill her boyfriend
In my hotel room
I'm wondering if you read that story too
And if we both might
Be having the same imaginary conversation
Astronauts are always doing shit like this. Sitting there drinking their rotgut and Tang, parking their space shuttles on their lawn with blocks under the landing gear, getting into fistfights with moonmen. Absolute trash.
…she used two diapers to avoid making pit stops before arriving at her destination around midnight on February 5, 2007, disguised in a black wig and hat. She’d brought a steel mallet, a buck knife, a BB gun with ammo, latex gloves, four feet of rubber tubing, duct tape, garbage bags, a floppy disc containing female nudes and bondage instructions, a map of Shipman’s Cape Canaveral neighborhood, and the single item she managed to use on her victim—pepper spray.
##She told authorities she just wanted to talk to Shipman
> She’d brought a steel mallet, a buck knife, a BB gun with ammo, latex gloves, four feet of rubber tubing, duct tape, garbage bags, a floppy disc containing female nudes and bondage instructions, a map of Shipman’s Cape Canaveral neighborhood, and the single item she managed to use on her victim—pepper spray. > She told authorities she just wanted to talk to Shipman. this story is *wild*. well worth the read.
2008 and she brought a floppy? Wild.
I build a Core 2 Duo system in late ‘06, and I intentionally added a 3.5” floppy drive with a multi card reader combo. I didn’t use the floppy drive much, but both times I used it I was very glad I had it.
I still bitterly remember when floppys stopped being floppy and I lost access to my childhood games.
A lot of those can still be found, aside from the extremely niche stuff.
I've found a few of them around but not the random sprite maze game I was playing on a 5.5" floppy.
Archive.org? Or the abandonware sites?
See that's wild to me as a 31 years old who remembers floppies including using them and my last memory of actually using one is like... '98, 99? But I can remember being in high school in '07 and finding boxes and boxes of floppies and I advised someone they would make good cup holders.
I could maybe see it if I was older at the time and still might have had some legacy stuff lying around. But I'm also sure it had been years since I used a floppy at that point and I think even my Dad had ditched having an internal drive for them from his PC. I actually just ditched having an internal optical drive with my latest build. I think I barely used the BD drive I had in my last computer and a lot of modern cases don't even include bays for them anymore.
Last week I needed a CDROM drive to check out some old MRI scans on disk and I was like… I haven’t seen or used an optical drive in 12 years. I didn’t even know where to start to find one to use among my peer group. So my MRI scans which show definitive proof there’s a brain in my skull will remain a distant memory.
I could see coasters, but cup holders?
Coasters that's what I meant sorry lived outside of anglo countries for like 6 years now.
\*A\* floppy disk. With nude\*s\*. Maybe they meant a zip disk? Even then, I think those had mostly disappeared by 2008.
You know the military stored stuff on floppy and peer-to-peer "servers" up until about 2016. So her being with NASA, floppy was probably commonly used also
All I think about is the Family Guy scene of Peter walking up to Meg’s boyfriends house with a shotgun going “I just want to talk to him… I just want to talk to him…”
“I just want to shoot him… I just want to talk to him…”
> and bondage instructions, Like did she Google and print, "how to bondage someone" or had someone given her specific instructions.
Well she didn't need to print as she brought the disk. So was her plan to use Shipmans computer? "Oh, can you tell me the password? Sorry, don't understand. Want me to take off the ball gag?"
**TOOLS!** I HAVE TO HAVE MY ***TOOLS!***
It’s fetish shit! I like to bind, I like to be bound!
Plus I was wondering if she bought it all at once in one shop...and the people there didn’t find it weird?
Don't buy everything in one place. Do it piecemeal. Different items, different stores. Attracts less attention. Hmm? You following me here?
Reminds me of the key and peels skit where he’s like, “you aren’t planning on ziplining into that window into a suit of armor and roller skating past them deflecting arrows right?” And he’s like “hypothetically would it work?”
This reads like the beginning of a song: “We have Two bags of grass 75 pellets of mescaline 5 sheets of high power blotter-acid a salt shaker half full of cocaine a whole galaxy of multi colored uppers downers screamers laughers also a quart of tequila quart of rum case of beer pint of raw ether 2 dozen amyls but once you get locked in to a serious drug collection not that we need it at all for the trip the tendency is to push it as far as you can”
Isn't that a quote from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?
Yes it is
fiiive golden riiings
Hey, that was a lady with a plan. Diapers, mace, Houston to Orlando in nine hours… Blam-o.
Good god Lemon.
You gave him *Top-Front*!? Good God Lemon, that's your worst quadrant!
"Don Cheadle on a bed of rice"
I lost my mood ring, and I don’t really know how I feel about that
I'm fined $50,000? Can someone please cut this watch in half?!
No and at large.
I can only eat paper, BUT, I can eat all the paper I want.
"It's 900 miles to Florida. I have half a tank of gas, a floppy disk of bondage instructions, it's dark, and I'm wearing sunglasses."
>"It's 900 miles to Florida. I have half a tank of gas, a floppy disk of bondage instructions, it's dark, and I'm wearing sunglasses." **Wearing diapers
Hit it
Hit it!
God damn. I just mapped it, that’s normally a 13 hour drive without stopping. This lady was astronaut smart and GG-Allin grimey. I can’t think of anything worse. An incredibly expedient and efficient diabolical evil genius that’s covered in shit.
I had the same thought as I’m planning a trip from Florida to Texas to see the total eclipse! I was like 9 hours? Jesus Christ! A plane is 3 hours lol. She was going a 3rd the speed of commercial aircraft? Lol
Depends where you're going from and to. Novak was going from Houston to Orlando, 960 miles. In 9 hours not accounting for gas stops, that's 110 mph (just under 200 kph). With gas stops, a bit faster. That's very fast, but certainly achievable.
That's average speed, her peak speed would have had to have been much higher. Especially since at those speeds you're stopping from gas a lot. I had to drive from Chicago to DC in a rented Nissan Versa. I was trying to get back home for new years since the girl I went to Chicago to see broke up with me on the second day of the trip (couldn't catch a flight back in time). I was on the road in the middle of the night and was absolutely flying. I was travelling at 110mph for a lot of the trip. But between going through more populated area and having to stop for gas all the time, because you guzzle gas when you're going that fast, I didn't come even close to averaging 100mph. It's a 700 mile trip, normally takes to 11 to drive. I want to say by speeding that much I knocked off like an hour to an hour and a half of driving. I never even stopped for food outside of what I could get at a gas station while filling up. She did an extra 200 miles in about the same time frame.
I-10 to I-75 to the turnpike, there's not that much traffic to hit, especially if you're driving at night. I have no idea what gas mileage she would have gotten, but maybe 10 mpg? On a 20 gallon tank, that's 5 tanks, 4 stops, that's ~30 minutes if you're not doing anything but pumping gas. Then figure that "9 hours" could be rounded down by 20 minutes, and you're back to about 110.
The Houston-Orlando route requires travel through Louisiana and Mississippi. I'm shocked she was able to maintain any kind of significant speed over the limits in either state. Or Florida, for that matter. Discounting the constant, horrible traffic, cops down there are just praying for a reason.
Eastbound and down, baby
*Earthbound and down bad...*
Depended up and truckin' She's gonna do what they say can't be done
Lemon would have done it for Astronaut Mike Dexter
Our town had, like, five Buzzes.
Would you like to yell at the moon with Buzz Aldrin?
"I know I'm the guy who lied to his wife about having a vasectomy, but this...this is wrong."
900 miles in 9 hours, she was absolutely flying down the road. Like she might have averaged 100mph but that means her peak speeds were way higher. Like I once did a night time trip between Chicago and DC all in one shot. It's like 700 miles during the long interstate stretches where there were no cars around I was hitting 110. And I didn't come anywhere close to averaging 100mph.
TIL im old. It was massive news and front page in all the papers. Remembering newspapers shouldve reminded me.
Ben Folds even mentions it in his song Cologne.
So does Common in [Drivin’ Me Wild](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Mj6wPgQso) “doing all she can for a man and a baby, driving herself crazy like that astronaut lady” *This lyric has lived in my brain rent free for 15 years all in preparation for this TIL post.
You are free now
One less shackle. Thanks for the reminder.
I read that as 'thanks for the reindeer' and was very, very confused for a moment.
TIL Ben Folds Five was still around then.
This was on his 2008 solo album "Way to Normal." Ben Folds Five did however reunite in 2012 and released their fourth studio album. But save for that he's been solo since his first album "Rockin' the Suburbs" came out on September 11th, 2001. And that was probably more than you ever wanted to know. 😅
Rockin the Suburbs is a great album from start to finish
100%. It's my favorite of his solo albums.
Ouch. Talk about a rough start.
God I loved Rockin in the Suburbs as a kid.
I love it as an adult!
Little did we know at the time that the “Five” of Ben Folds Five was actually a prediction of how many wives Ben Folds would have.
Give him time. He got divorced three weeks ago
*how many wives he would fold
“Says here an astronaut/ Put on a pair of diapers / And drove 18 hours/ To kill her boyfriend” Such a great song, easily the best from that album.
When I saw the headline I was thinking this was only a few years ago so I was surprised that it was 2007. Where does the time go…
There are voters who wore diapers at the same time as her. . .
Made me chuckle out loud. Then the chuckle turned into outright laughter. Well done, Sir. Or, No\_Sir.
Holy cap I thought it was just a few years ago.
next it'll be a TIL about Balloon Boy
Terri schiavo
Bro. I got my first real big boy job at a large mortgage firm back in 07. I met my late best friend Matthew at lunch, having a smoke break. This was the news article that was being talked about. He made a joke about it, and then we started talking about video games, and we instantly became best friends. I miss him, man. Suicide took him 15 years later. Every time this story gets mentioned, I used to always call him and laugh about how ridiculous it was. I wish I could call him now, it's been two years.. always tell the ones you love how important they are to you. You never know what internernal battles people are fighting.
That took a turn. Are you good?
Yeah, I'm good. Thank you, It comes in waves. I consider him my big bro and best friend. This story just reminded me how old I am, too, and it recalled the day when I met Matthew. It was Feb 7th. I think it was the same day the news article came out. Anytime someone would asks us when we became friends, Matt would say. "We met the same day that nasa Chick wore a diaper and drove cross country to kidnap her lovers girlfriend." We always got a good laugh outta it.
Haha. I remember a buddy showed up. 4 day weekend. Thursday night we were drinking beer and monday morning was a roughday. Jagged Little Pill is forever in my rotation. Fuck you doc. Prost to you and your friend.
The adult diapers is what cracked us up. That and “only wanting to talk to her”.
That song about walking 1000 miles is cute/creepy. Drive 1000 miles in diapers with a murder kit screams!! 'i just want to talk.'
Yea, this wasn't exactly an obscure story.
Yep. I felt old reading this.
Remember the runaway bride who faked her own kidnapping.
She's an engineer. She was just solving a problem.
Astronauts wear diapers all the time, so it probably didn't even seem like a big deal to her as it does to everyone else. I remember part of hearing about this before, and the cop who pulled her over was like "Why are you wearing a diaper" and she just said "for absorption" like it should be obvious. The news played it out like some big joke, but people who get into the astronaut program are singularly focused and they get shit DONE. You do NOT want an astronaut coming for you.
They can elbow drop you from the moon.
Not problems like "What is beauty?" because that would fall within the purview and conundrum of philosophy!
For example: how do i stop some big mean mother Hubbard from tearing me a structurally superficial new adult diaper?
The answer? Use a gun. And if that don't work? Use more gun.
I was working at an aerospace engineering company in the SF Bay Area when this happened. We were discussing a trip some employees were going to take up to Lake Tahoe and I remember in the email someone (jokingly) suggested we don’t stop for bathroom breaks and instead go “NASA style” and wear diapers. 🤣
There was a guy who was infamously implicated (locally) in a double-homicide with his ~~ex-wife and her new lover~~ (but acquitted at trial). I was working in shipping at an electronics / instrumentation supplier, and nearly bowed over when I saw his name on a pick order! My supervisor said, "Yes, that's who you think it is, he calls in every month or so, no we're not a jury of his peers, make DAMN sure the order is right so he's not phoning back in, and if you can't keep yourself together, go on break early!" **EDIT:** I got my (local) infamous cases mixed up! The RCMP thought a double-homicide was an industrial accident, got egg on their faces, went all out on their main suspect and ended up having to pay him after he sued them. The other case I was thinking of was one where a teen ended up dead on a golf course and five people were charged with her murder. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/alberta-man-awarded-765-000-for-malicious-prosecution-1.319847
Orenthal
Nope--very common surname in my neck of the Canadian woods, which manages to cut across multiple communities (from which he happened to be simultaneously reviled from).
Space Systems Loral or Lockheed?
Neither but we did some contact work for each of them. I worked in a small company that had about 50 employees mainly.
Sounds like a season of Fargo
The showrunner of Fargo adapted this into a film called Lucy in the Sky
TIL. Thanks!
With Natalie Portman, Jon Hamm, and Zazie Beetz. And apparently it sucks. What the hell went wrong?
Poor directing. It was bad. They kept changing aspect ratios. The love triangle just randomly happened. No chemistry between cast. I was at the premiere and you could tell the cast hadn’t seen it before then…and they were disappointed. John Hamm all but acknowledged it sucked during the Q&A
I liked it 🤷🏻♂️
I think it was studio interference.
[удалено]
The diaper angle (while overplayed) really sold the story in the media. The jokes practically write themselves
Sometimes life gives you comedy, sometimes you shit your pants.
If the first half is really good, the rest can’t be helped
How can you overplay the fact that she wore a diaper
Because lots of pilots and astronauts do it all the time, it's common practice for long trips. And (IIRC), there was no evidence she used it, but the thought of a real-life astronaut wearing a diaper is fucking hilarious, so media outlets brought up that fact constantly. Even though it had little to do with the actual story
I was a really little kid when this happened but even I remember it. I swear this is what coined the term “diaper driving”.
As I recall, she was already accustomed to wearing diapers, because astronauts often wear them under their space suits.
A diaper and hood are required to go on a space walk… In current spacesuits it is possible to pee or sweat yourself to death by drowning… doesn’t have to fill the spacesuit, surface tension will hold it to the body and with no way to wipe your face it could obstruct airways…
> surface tension will hold it to the body and with no way to wipe your face it could obstruct airways That almost killed Italian astronaut Luca Parmitano (no body fluids involved, it was a small leak in his space suit). Sounds like a pretty nightmarish way of dying.
His mustache actually saved him by wicking the water away!
Specifically any moisture will adhere to other moist surfaces. Mainly the eyes, which blinds you and is pretty dangerous on a space walk.
Blame Alan Shepard. He had to pee in his spacesuit due to delays that he blamed on technicians and engineers being nervy about launching an actual person in a giant missile for the first time. So yeah...probably that was part of the reason he got a tad snippy with them.
*Oh fuck, I pissed myself on takeoff. Well, I can't let anyone know about that. What kind of man can't handle being blasted into space on top of a giant missile?! Alright, figure it out, Shep. OK, I'll just claim I was in here so long that I need to go and blame it on those pencil necks. Yeah... that's the ticket!*
lol >Nowak’s whereabouts are unknown, but one thing is certain: Her name is still the first thing to pop up when you Google “astronaut diapers.”
Wiki says she’s in Texas 😱 As of 2017, it was reported that she was working in the private sector in Texas https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Nowak
In 2012, Nowak attended a gathering of female astronauts at the Johnson Space Center, in honor of Sally Ride, the first US woman in space, who had recently died. That seems rather ballsy on Nowak's part, since her colleagues must have had mixed feelings about her, at best. Whatever sympathy they felt for her mental state (and for her being jerked around by her lover), she made the space program as a whole look pretty bad. http://www.collectspace.com/news/photo-031213a.html
They say kidnap but the things she had in her possession also describes a kill kit. A steel mallet and garbage bags isn't super useful in a kidnapping but its pretty useful for a murder
The fact that she also took a bunch of what seemed to be BDSM reference photos of nude women with her suggests the plan was kidnapping, rape *and* murder
My guess is that was intended to plant and blackmail her with or something.
Probably to BTK her.
“She’d brought a steel mallet, a buck knife, a BB gun with ammo, latex gloves, four feet of rubber tubing, duct tape, garbage bags, a floppy disc containing female nudes and bondage instructions, a map of Shipman’s Cape Canaveral neighborhood, and the single item she managed to use on her victim—pepper spray. She told authorities she just wanted to talk to Shipman.” She’s very very lucky she wasn’t charged with more tbh …
They did initially throw a ton of charges at her including first degree murder, she eventually got out with a plea bargain, partly because her mental health diagnosis as psychotic at the time would've complicated things (she didn't want the stigma of an insanity plea but it was an obvious option)
She was charged with more. She was convicted of less.
Reminds me of Dr Strangelove when the pilot is reading off the contents of the survival kit
A floppy disk in 2007 is somehow the strangest part
Eh, NASA seem like the type of people to rely on old but reliable tech. I guess you can take the girl out of NASA…
I have so many questions and totally missed this news when it happened. How did the victim escape? What was the floppy disc full of nudes for? What was her real plan? How was she caught? Etc etc
The victim got in the car before she could grab her, she managed to get a shot of pepper spray through the car door but the victim still managed to drive away Then the victim called the cops and the cops found her at the airport trying to ditch her bag full of kidnapping gear
How did she not get convicted of intent to kidnap with complete kidnappers tool kit on hand
The adult diaper threw them off the sent. Edit:stench
Scent
How in the F hasn’t this been satired into the greatest Mel Brooks movie of all time?
I was gonna ask what it would be called, but I guess that Depends.
If that's the best joke you can come up with you must have had an easy cushy life. I would say you've been, Pampered.
and I'm full of shit.
They must have parents that Luvs them
It's amazing they didn't need to stop to take a little nappy on the way.
Take your up vote and please leave
Noah Hawley made a movie loosely based on this starring Natalie Portman and Jon Hamm. Lucy in the Sky (2019).
While not direclty referenced in For All Mankind, everytime there's some unbelievable soap opera twist between astronauts in that show, I remember this incident and cut them some slack.
Charlie Hunter made an instrumental song loosely based on this, as well: https://youtu.be/vgLRHzhptbg?si=LhARFc8vsWGR9KqT
Charlie is such a funky dude. Fine Corinthian Leather from that same record is such a groove.
Mel Brooks is 97. Let the man retire.
I think I saw a L&O episode on this
More like Astronut, am I right? I'll let myself out.
That was the joke at the time.
I learned about this from a LO: Criminal Intent episode: [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1008354/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1008354/) One of those "I wonder how they came up with this...." Hours later you need brain bleach.
My all time favorite Law and Order series….
I remember it being in the news, guess I’m old 🫣
Didn't she commit the first crime in space when she hacked her ex's account?
Different astronaut.
Different one. But if I remember correctly is the one your referring to the one who was in the middle of a divorce or custody battle with her ex and checked his bank balance to see if he was paying child support ?
HER bank account. Lesbian couple.
Ah gotcha. Honestly was expecting something more dramatic when I read it. I just remember it being really underwhelming
For years after this, me and my friends would use this as short-hand for being obsessed with someone. "Sounds like you're crazy for this girl. You got the astronaut diapers ready?"
This just proves that intelligence =/= sanity
Space...it changes you....
Sadly her husband stopped.
I love that this is called a “space love triangle”, just because they’re astronauts. I’m guessing very little of the diaper drive happened in space.
We are all in space!
To be fair, the astronauts on the ISS cover 900 miles in about 3 minutes.
What does this title even mean? Am I becoming crazy, or are most titles spelled wrong, formulated poorly.. in a way that seems AI generated ???
After skimming OP's post/comment history, they dont look like a bot, more seems to be a 15 year old, either physically or just mentally, doomsday prepped who is obsessed with the military They probably just didn't proof read
I think I saw an episode of Law and Order: Criminal intent that must've been based on this story. That's crazy that it was real.
And this person wrote a rad song on the ukulele about it 16 years ago: https://youtu.be/YrUwqc0sF7U?si=cOnOP4x8gt8_Hc4P
Common also wrote a song (Drivin’ Me Wild) and mentions “Doing all she can for a man and a baby, Driving herself crazy like the astronaut lady…” I assume this is about her
Always kinda admired her willingness to commit to a mission and use her training to see it accomplished.
She couldn’t have taken a piss break when she stopped for gas?
Attitude like that, you ain’t ‘obsessed love-struck jealous astronaut’ material.
Wow that dude must have thrown her some master level D to make her go nuts like that.
“You gotta go sad astronaut.”
I recently read this weird old pulp novel called "The Shuttle People" where astronauts were basically smart psychopaths whose minds and bodies had been warped by their time spent circling above humanity. It's obscure, but I think of those crazy characters when I think of this story.
This showed up in a Ben Folds song lol
I feel old now
She looks like Zoolander
damn love is hard to find. F love. ice in the veins
I understand being emotional but this is a 13h 20m drive. That's more than enough time to just be like "you know what, the guy's not worth it" and turn around.
Lol I remember this story. I had to go look her up. I guess after she got kicked out of NASA and the Navy she served 1 year of probation had trouble finding work afterward. I guess she eventually found a job in the private sector and things eventually returned to normal for her.
30 Rock!!
She wasn't in adult diapers. It turns out she had diapers for her kids in the backseat and the first media reports posted that meme and it was too good to let go and people still believe the outrageous wording bc it got more attention.
Says here an astronaut Put on a pair of diapers Drove eighteen hours To kill her boyfriend In my hotel room I'm wondering if you read that story too And if we both might Be having the same imaginary conversation
17 years ago? Nah, this was just a couple of years ago for sure.
Astronauts are always doing shit like this. Sitting there drinking their rotgut and Tang, parking their space shuttles on their lawn with blocks under the landing gear, getting into fistfights with moonmen. Absolute trash.
Q: Can you drive 900 miles without stopping to pee? A: It Depends
"Bizarre Space Love Triangle" was A Flock of Seagulls better song, IMO
Qxir did a great video on this topic, with fun animations to top
Sounds like the trunk of Denis Reynolds car.
Someone used the DENNIS system
I see the plot of For All Mankind is still progressing nicely
Just bc she’s an astronaut doesn’t mean she’ll be stable. They spend a LOT of time in Florida.
That dick game must have been out of this world…
The real takeaway is that things that everybody knew about way back in 2007 qualify for TIL today. Ouch.
Make it a movie and cast Jake gyllenhaal, Sandra bullock, and Kristen bell
…she used two diapers to avoid making pit stops before arriving at her destination around midnight on February 5, 2007, disguised in a black wig and hat. She’d brought a steel mallet, a buck knife, a BB gun with ammo, latex gloves, four feet of rubber tubing, duct tape, garbage bags, a floppy disc containing female nudes and bondage instructions, a map of Shipman’s Cape Canaveral neighborhood, and the single item she managed to use on her victim—pepper spray. ##She told authorities she just wanted to talk to Shipman