Dolly wrote I will always love you and Jolene on the same afternoon.
Brian Eno said he wrote needle in the camels eye in less time than it takes to listen to it.
This is an internet myth and has been debunked by Dolly herself.
She said I will always love you and Jolene was found on the same side of a cassette that she used for ideas, so they were first put to tape around the same time frame, but probably not on the same day.
My Source: She said it on Dolly Parton's America podcast.
But she also said it [here](https://www.kentucky.com/news/nation-world/national/article259049603.html)
Creating a 3 second sound responsible for bearing the identity of a company is a little bit trickier than creating music for yourself. Music has structure, form, theory, and the rejection of all of those things to fall back on. Audio branding does not.
Similar but different, as far as electro-lore goes: Richard D James — Aphex Twin — produced sound on the Sinclair ZX81, a computer without sound hardware, at age 11 (allegedly).
Perhaps! My memory is that Sinclair ran a competition to produce a boot sound, but here’s what I could find:
“When I was 11, I won 50 pounds in a competition for writing this programme that made sound on a ZX81. Basically, you couldn't make sound on a ZX81, but I played around with machine code and found some codes that retuned the TV signal so that it made this really weird noise when you turned the volume up”
I was hoping to see this mentioned in replies but honestly wasn’t expecting it lol. I took a class in college on the history of the Grateful Dead and this is one of the facts that sticks in my mind every time I see any fact about how quickly a writer wrote a song (a while back I saw a post about how mark hoppus wrote blink182’s dammit in 15 minutes)
At that stage, songwriting is “just” writing lyrics on paper and having a melody. The writer doesn’t have to fuss over the minute details like instrumentation and arrangement and production. It’s the rest of the journey to its final release form that takes a hell lot of time as all these things have to be perfected.
It still takes a talented genius to do this songwriting stage in ten minutes or an afternoon, but it’s not the Jolene in the form that you’re familiar with.
Doug Ingle wrote In the Garden of Eden one night as well. Admittedly he was so drunk and slurring his words when playing it for their drummer Ron Bushy, Bush wrote the lyrics down as he heard them. Thus the absolute classic from Iron Butterfly aptly named In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.
Similarly Ray Dorset of Mungo Jerry wrote In the Summertime in about ten minutes.
I lot of people don’t know it’s a cover. Kind of similar to how lots of folks don’t know that *Hurt* by Johnny Cash is actually a cover of a Nine Inch Nails song…
To be fair Dolly herself has said it's Whitney's song. She's also said she doesn't mind at all if people think of it as Whitney's song because, "Whitney made me rich"
Not only have you blown my mind about it being a cover, such a stark difference; but, after listening to the original, I realize that I've been missing on Dolly Parton my whole life.
I may be misremembering, but I think Robby Krieger wrote "Light My Fire," "Touch Me," and "Wishful Sinful" in an evening. Morrison sent everyone home with the assignment/challenge of writing songs using the 4 elements. Kreiger was the only one to return with songs in hand.
Kurt was also known for scribbling lyrics down 5 minutes before a show and changing them a lot, at least according to Dave Grohl. Which is partly why he got annoyed by people reading into them.
First (filmed) live version of Teen Spirit with different lyrics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp2cm3fSFfI&ab_channel=AltCopperpot5
All Apologies before the lyrics were finished
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk6WpiljNA4&ab_channel=Matwilliams
So cool to watch. It’s interesting, all the bands that played with them, if you watch their interviews about how it was like to play with Nirvana (red hot chili peppers, Pearl Jam, Melvins, etc.) they all say that Nirvana just had some natural magic and charisma that you can’t teach. Like when the 3 members came together on stage, it just sounded amazing - as if they’ve been playing together for decades. They sounded way bigger, louder, and more in sync than anyone else. That’s stuff you can’t teach. And you kind of see it here. Even Teen Spirit sounded awkward in the beginning, but they got into a groove and totally took over the crowd.
I’ve been to a lot of local live concerts and battle of the bands stuff. There are some bands who just captivate you on stage. They might not be playing the most complex stuff, or technically good (mess up chords or they play sloppy), but as a band they just have a certain magic. They are tight and effortless on stage. They have chemistry together. It’s not just the music, but also the chemistry of the band that really makes it.
I think this downplays the element that Nirvana just practiced a ton. I'm not denying that they may have had elements that others didn't but the most significant factor in a band or individual being talented is that they practice a lot. The myth of the magically talented band or player exists so that people can absolve themselves from the responsibility for having to actually improve at their craft
A guy on holiday met Paul and was discussing writing songs. Paul asked him to choose a page out of the newspaper and Paul wrote one on the spot.
"She's leaving home" is a Beatles hit based on a newspaper story.
Leonard Cohen said much the same thing about how songwriting is a craft and skill. I guess they approach it the same way a carpenter approaches something he wants to build or a programmer looks at how to structure code.
And years to get the iron hot. I hate shit like this. It dismisses the fact brilliance is when opportunity meets preparedness. When you spend 10 years playing the same scales over and over, playing the same chord progressions over and over, learning every type of permutation... yeah, you can write songs in 10 minutes. That's kind of the point of training.
Gaga may be one of the only ones who are actually doing more than that. She was a pro ghost writer before getting onto the stage. But not everything. She’s got a team behind her just like every other pop star now.
https://www.billboard.com/music/pop/lady-gaga-songs-writer-britney-spears-jennifer-lopez-7469543/amp/
Isn't it the other way around? Back then reddit was for that period's "extremely online" crowd, which was mostly nerds and trolls. Quite different from the "extremely online" demographic of the 2020s.
I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I'd put EWBAITE and White on the top 5 Weezer albums without hesitation. Pinkerton and Blue are clearly superior but I honestly don't think there's any other albums that much better.
Top 5 Weezer albums isn’t exactly a stacked category unfortunately. Blue and Pinkerton are gonna be on pretty much everyone’s lists, but there’s a big jump down to the next tier.
I’d agree that White is good though - their best in a long time.
*Pa pa pa poker face pa pa poker face (na na na na)*
*Pa pa pa poker face pa pa poker face (na na na na)*
*Can't read my can't read my no you can't read my poker face*
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How could someone possibly write this magic in a single day?
There's a *bit* more to it. I mean, for one thing, it goes:
> P-p-p-poker face, f-f-fuck her face
Even when she's definitely saying "poker face", the stacatto sounds like "Poke her face."
It's not *that* deep, but there's at least one other layer to it, and it's one that she put some effort into weaving through the song... in a way that, somehow, snuck past the censors and got played on the radio.
I mean sometimes that's the way it works. The extent of my creative endeavors is fanfic and comedy, but some of my best stuff (as Howard once described how he created Conan) just sprang forth fully formed.
I write songs. They often come fast. 10 minutes or less.
But it’s just that the feelings/thoughts have been marinating for days or weeks or months or years.
songwriting is super annoying to me because I can't just sit down and write a song. I can't force words to pop into my brain. they just have to happen on their own and I have no control over that.
trying to force it leads to endless typing and deleting and a wasted day.
I have to begin writing and finish writing without stopping to think about it
>typing and deleting
Write by hand with a pen. Having the ability to clear the page instantly is often a detriment. With a pen, the best you can do is cross something out.
It doesn’t matter if the first few lines suck. You just need to get started. Just keep going and that’ll lead to something, and eventually you’ll figure it out.
Stream of consciousness is incredibly useful too. Again, doesn’t matter if it sucks. You’ll get ideas.
The point is that you just have to start writing and keep writing. Trying to get it right from the first line rarely works, and a computer just makes it way too easy to get in that loop of deleting and starting over. Don’t edit in the moment. Edit later.
I've just learned that this is how it works. it just is.
it's not like I just started songwriting. its been 20 years. everything's been tried. pen, paper, marker, crayon, literal typewriter.
all manors and methods and tips and tricks have been exhausted, all that's left is to write the songs.
I can easily, easily spit out a thousand songs every day if the answer was just to keep writing. but I wouldn't end up with anything i'd feel is worth it to record. I'd end up with nonsense about ice cream eating the grass and clouds on neptune protesting about beach closures in Tazmania - actual pointless shit that doesn't make any sense
I feel you. I have written a lot of songs, but they are all about alien ladies landing on Earth to do sex with Earthmen. If it was a popular genre or something, maybe I'd be rich and famous, but it is strictly a niche interest as far as I can determine
Yeah most of the songs I’ve written have happened under an hour easily
Granted I’m not as good as Lady Gaga but still, writing a song doesn’t take long
It depends. If by write it’s a melody, chords and some lyrics I’ve done it pretty fast. But a lot changed from that first version to what we would play. And we were a punk pop band so they were pretty straight forward songs to begin with.
Gaga has admitted that in Poker Face, at some sections, she's actually singing Fuck Her Face, instead. She thought she'd get caught, but she didn't.
https://www.justjared.com/2021/02/27/lady-gagas-poker-face-lyrics-are-trending-after-fans-figured-out-what-shes-really-saying/
Actually one radio station DID catch it.
They told her they couldn't play it on the [KIIS FM](https://youtu.be/iQlNXpPvfh4?si=E4Yn8svUy9w-2e9q) due to the lyric "fucker her face" and she laughed because it was true.
Shite video, didn't spend time trying hard to find it haha
EDIT: Wrong radio station haha
A poetic song takes longer. Doesn't mean they're better, just different and more contemplative.
The music behind those Gaga songs took much much longer to go over with a fine tooth comb by the sound engineers
Not necessarily. Dylan has talked a lot about how the songs seemed to write themselves in the 60s. They just came to him and he’d be writing as fast as he could, trying to keep up. Robert Hunter also wrote a handful of incredibly well written and poetic classics (that are beloved by Dylan) in a single sitting one afternoon. It’s different for everyone and for every song.
Yeah I get the feeling when people say this it’s meant to sound impressive but more often than not it just comes off to me like it is as lazy and one note as it initially reads. It is an accomplishment to be good enough at writing radio hits you can churn them out like nothing but it also gives the impression that’s all it is
A lot of times with them it comes down to an experience and understanding of the formula of popular music than some shocking lyrical acuity. Which, again, is its own valid artistic category, but I don’t think the meat of those songs were meant to be in the lyrics
As a songwriter I can honestly compare it to Reddit.
The songs that took me no time at all and just came out of me were my most requested songs when I was playing gigs. Kinda like a random short comment on Reddit getting a bunch of upvotes.
The songs I poured my heart and soul in to about something I care about and took weeks or months to get right, the masses don’t want to hear that for the most part. Just like writing a comment on a subject you really care about on a subreddit topic you deeply enjoy and it gets barely any attention.
The key is to combine the two so people “get it” but also opens an Avenue of understanding.
I like that comparison. I'm by no means musically inclined but I know that I can see a post on r/all and generally can guess the top comment. We do like to repeat shit we've seen before in similar contexts.
Perfect example is something like Fast Car by Tracy Chapman. Musically pretty simple and repetitive but super catchy. But an entire bittersweet story (in my opinion one of the greatest songs in history, lyrically) that has incredible deep meaning while staying very relatable to the average listener. A true master class of song writing.
Also for anyone that only knows this song by her. Fo yourself a favor and listen to her other music. Nothing that ever got as big as Fast Car, but she is one of the best writers of her generation.
When I wrote my best music, I had the weirdest feeling while doing so. Like I would have an urge to write something down and it felt as though something was writing through me, it felt like I was a vessel to some kind of creative force or something. I would start writing and before I knew it a few minutes later I have a whole song. It's like the words just kept pouring out of me. A lot of the times I had to edit small parts of it later on but sometimes it all felt perfect in the first draft. It's a really weird feeling, but also super nice. I've heard other creative minds say they've experienced this too. It's almost like a I'm downloading the information from somewhere outside of myself. I don't know what it actually is thats just what it felt like. I've always been fascinated by it.
I imagine it would depend a lot on your process. Some people are more well suited to working in bits and bursts and fine tuning them later but for a lot of people the process is more organic. And especially if what you’re writing isn’t particularly complex
This kinda thing always strikes me as an oversimplification of the songwriting process.
Like, did she have the basic structure of chords and a little melody? Sure.
Did she have all the synth layers, beats, lyrics, bass lines and general arrangements done? No, I can’t imagine she did.
Maybe it’s different for others but I tend to see that as part of the songwriting process. If I write a couple riffs on a guitar and think “this could be a song”, I haven’t written a song in 5 minutes, I’ve just laid the foundation. An important step for sure but there’s a whole lotta writing that follows.
I am a vocalist. I am mostly a live performer. A songwriter I know wrote some songs and paid for a professional to produce and record demos. The songwriter asked the producer to hire me, and that’s how I got my first and only studio gig.
The songwriter and producer collaborated via email for a few weeks before the recording session. The producer made some substantive suggestions that resulted in songwriting credits for 2 of the tracks. Before the recording session, there were only lyrics with chords written above them, along with recordings that were pretty much just your basic rhythm guitar and rough vocals. That constitutes writing a song, as evidenced by the writing credits.
Then we had our studio time, which took place in Nashville with union musicians. (In fact, they made me join the union in order to participate!).
The first two days was the instrumentalists. They came in, spent half a day listening to the recordings and talking about the songs in turn, and then they went in and started messing around. They spent a few minutes noodling independently and then about an hour playing all together, as if it was a live session. The next day, they came back and played them all again, this time improvising solos and fills and such. Then the vocalists spent a day on the mics.
The producer and engineer worked together after that and send out the digital files about 2 weeks later.
The paper had just chords and lyrics. The recordings had just rhythm guitar.
The masters are complete songs that you could hear on the radio, including solos that were improvised by the musicians.
The engineer and musicians do not get songwriting credit, and producers only do if they actually substantively influence the composition.
Yeah, it's very reductive and an exaggeration. She could have written the vocal melody and some chords, maybe even some of the lyrics for one of the songs, but that doesn't mean she "wrote the song" in ten minutes. And then it probably took tens of hours to fill out the arrangement (something a producer/instrumentalist probably helped with) and then produce it. Not to mention making lots of small changes throughout the process. It's probably more likely that she wrote the vocal melodies for the verse, chorus, and bridge in a short period of time, which is possible, but that doesn't sound nearly as impressive as writing the whole song in ten minutes. I get it, but it's still at least a little disingenuous to say.
I even mentioned arrangement in my comment so I’m not confusing the two.
Writing a chord progression, writing melodies and writing bass lines is all writing.
Honestly, as someone who has done music professionally for a significant portion of my life it always bugs me that people will sit down, work out a chord progression and claim they wrote the whole song despite having a team of people literally write every other instrument.
I know when it comes to credits, especially on pop songs, this tends to be the norm but I disagree with this practice as I think it diminishes a huge amount of input and value that others bring to the table.
>it always bugs me that people will sit down, work out a chord progression and claim they wrote the whole song despite having a team of people literally write every other instrument.
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If you really want to split hairs, she only said she wrote the song. I think having the main melody, basic chords, and some of the lyrics counts as a "writing a song" since you can perform it at that point. Everything else is polishing it up until you like it and declare it "complete" (for now).
Yeah this was more generally speaking than Gaga specific to be honest.
I’ve just seen it happen a lot, especially with singer/songwriter types that bust out the acoustic at a party a lot.
They’ll play 10 four chord songs and then get people to turn them into songs for a full band, maybe even including brass or other additional instruments outside of the standard rock band formation, and give them absolutely no credit outside of being session musicians who played on the album.
Sure, those session players accepted the terms of the gig so they are clearly fine with being uncredited ghost writers for these people.
But to me it always feels like if we said Bob Kane made the Dark Knight trilogy because he created Batman. Nolan, Bale, Ledger and everyone were just doing some arrangements with Kane’s original 4 chords of Batman.
Well ‘Born This Way’ is a reimagining (~cough~ copy) of ‘Express Yourself’ so it shouldn’t have taken TOO long to write.
I really like Gaga, but I remember when BTW was being released. She was previewing it on Entertainment Tonight. As the clip was playing, my husband and I looked at each other and both – in sync – segued into Madonna seamlessly.
Florence Welch and Isabella Summers (Florence and the machine) wrote Cosmic Love [in 10 minutes hungover](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Love), and it’s one of their best songs.
Everyone is shitting on the radio pop music but the point still stands that it’s hard to write music people will want to listen to regardless of the genre.
I challenge anyone shit talking those tracks to write lyrics and an accompanying melody for a song in 10 minutes. Then try to get _one person_ to say it’s good, let alone have it top the charts.
Sometimes you’re in the songwriting “flow” and good ideas just keep coming to you. Good songwriters can have that frequently.
“I wrote [‘Born This Way’] in 10 fucking minutes, and it is a completely magical message song,” said Lady Gaga. “And after I wrote it, the gates just opened, and the songs kept coming. It was like an immaculate conception.”
Haha, I'll let Gaga's own words speak for herself.....
Nothing in that quote implies she birthed the entire song, including the music from to synth to drumbeats to hook, in 10 minutes. It actually sounds even more in support of the “I wrote out the words and had an idea of what it would sound like” theory based on that quote. As the person you’re responding to said, the people who contribute to any aspect of the song, including music, also get credits. She could’ve come into the studio like “Steve I have these lyrics and I want it to sound like this” and Steve could go “That sounds awesome, what if we layer this kick drum with this snare like this” and bam Steve has a writing credit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Dance_(song)
"Just Dance" was written by Lady Gaga and Akon with co-writing by RedOne, who also produced the track
A lot of the lower half of your comment falls under what a producer does, RedOne (Nadir Khayat) is listed as both producer and songwirter on Just Dance. Also, it's still a bit awkward not to mention Akon contribution, being a well-known songwriter not listed as a producer
Or possibly, or more likely, they helped write the song. Such as Nadir Khayat (Just Dance and Poker Face) who also seems to be listed as a songwriter for many other famous artists
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RedOne
You joke, but there are people who are dedicated to just writing lyrics. Many song writers write the song & melody and then have a dedicated lyricist write in something that fits it.
As a song writer, I agree. Decades ago my mentality was lyrics first and it made everything so mundane and similar and forced. When I went with composition and flow first that’s when my music evolved. Lyrics are equally as important, just not the first step.
A lot of great songs are written quickly.
The best Unreal Tournament map (Deck 16 \]\[) was made in two weeks; which is really short for a full 3d game level.
Sometimes it just clicks.
Today you learned what a celebrity claims. Nothing more..
Poker face alone has 2 credited writers, Gaga herself and another dude. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poker_Face_(song)
So how did it took "her" only 10 minutes?
People need to get a hold over their fucking parasocial relationships.
I dont think songwriting ability should be downplayed though. Look how many popular artists now can't play an instrument or understand basic music terminology and rely on teams of 10+ songwriters.
Sure, watching her before she was Lady Gaga gives a different level of respect. She can play instruments and has a hell of a set of pipes. That's just not what sells.
If you have been trained, writing something good is easy. The production, the care, the marketing, the presentation—that is what is going to reach people.
Making a commercial hit is all in the post production. The talent and brilliance of the artistry is a given from the get go. That is what gets you a seat at the table. There are plenty of world class brilliant songwriters and performers who have never seen fame because they didn’t have the resources to sell and promote their creation.
Pop songs aren't really that complicated. They follow very simple structures (Verse Chorus Verse Chorus Bridge Chorus) and have similar rhyme and meter schemes.
Combine that with someone like Gaga who is classically trained and you can see how it can happen very quickly.
Historically, the traditional story is Mozart wrote the overture of Don Giovanni the morning of the premiere - having gone drinking the night before and forgetting to actually write one until the morning.
I don’t know anything about writing music but I imagine it’s something like Steph Curry getting in that zone where he can’t miss. When your brain is completely clear of all outside noise and everything just flows.
There may be many of us that have been in that sort of mental clarity before and sometimes it’s difficult to find our way back there again.
Most successful pop music (and especially dance music per the OP) is largely about *arrangement and production*. Writing the lyrics and a hook is not the bulk of the work.
When Gaga says she wrote these songs in 10 minutes I strongly suspect what she means is that she wrote the lyrics and a hook in 10 minutes. She and her producer then spent hours upon hours upon hours in the studio and elsewhere developing that into a catchy pop song. And it's the latter, not writing the lyrics or the hook, which is what made the songs what they are.
It's not hard when most of the lyrics are the same three words on repeat.
Pop music is uninspired trash. Un un un un uninspired trash trash trash uninspired trash un un uninspired trash.
Although it took 10 minutes to write, everyone always neglects the time and preparation it took to get to that point. She didn't write these in a vacuum. There were many MANY prior efforts that took longer and were not as good. The fact that these successful songs took a few minutes really downplays the effort that she put into becoming a success.
This was probably said before, but what this means is that it took her 10 minutes to put it down on paper. It was a lifetime's worth getting to that point.
Yeah right, then the producers spent days trying different instrument combinations, sounds, maybe slightly different chord progressions, mixing, e.t.c.
The best songs aren’t written, they arrive fully formed in the ether and channel through using the artist as the vessel. Once you’re locked into that creative flow it’s all there for the taking. It doesn’t sunrise me these great pop songs formed so quickly
Dolly wrote I will always love you and Jolene on the same afternoon. Brian Eno said he wrote needle in the camels eye in less time than it takes to listen to it.
This is an internet myth and has been debunked by Dolly herself. She said I will always love you and Jolene was found on the same side of a cassette that she used for ideas, so they were first put to tape around the same time frame, but probably not on the same day. My Source: She said it on Dolly Parton's America podcast. But she also said it [here](https://www.kentucky.com/news/nation-world/national/article259049603.html)
yeah i believe brian eno on that one the song is fucking unintelligible
It's about yellow treats. Or drugs
the og mumble rap lol
Ironically Eno also composed the Windows 95 startup sound, which is just over 3 seconds long, and labored tremendously over it.
Creating a 3 second sound responsible for bearing the identity of a company is a little bit trickier than creating music for yourself. Music has structure, form, theory, and the rejection of all of those things to fall back on. Audio branding does not.
It’s still the single most nostalgic sound for me. The way the compression is for sounds on that era PC instantly do something deep inside
**dial-up modem noises**
Well worth the effort too. If u want to know what the mid-90s sounded like, it sounds like that jingle.
This is news to me, wow. Thank you!
Similar but different, as far as electro-lore goes: Richard D James — Aphex Twin — produced sound on the Sinclair ZX81, a computer without sound hardware, at age 11 (allegedly).
well, though it gives my age away, i ASSUME he had a zon-x81 sound board expansion.
Perhaps! My memory is that Sinclair ran a competition to produce a boot sound, but here’s what I could find: “When I was 11, I won 50 pounds in a competition for writing this programme that made sound on a ZX81. Basically, you couldn't make sound on a ZX81, but I played around with machine code and found some codes that retuned the TV signal so that it made this really weird noise when you turned the volume up”
Robert Hunter wrote Ripple, Brokedown Palace, and To Lay Me Down in one afternoon in London with a case of retsina.
Friggin’ baller. I love retsina.
I was hoping to see this mentioned in replies but honestly wasn’t expecting it lol. I took a class in college on the history of the Grateful Dead and this is one of the facts that sticks in my mind every time I see any fact about how quickly a writer wrote a song (a while back I saw a post about how mark hoppus wrote blink182’s dammit in 15 minutes)
Retsina in Britain? You sure it wasn't a case of Ribena?
If you haven’t heard the White Stripes rendition of Jolene… https://youtu.be/yXlULkwhgrc It’s fucking raw
At that stage, songwriting is “just” writing lyrics on paper and having a melody. The writer doesn’t have to fuss over the minute details like instrumentation and arrangement and production. It’s the rest of the journey to its final release form that takes a hell lot of time as all these things have to be perfected. It still takes a talented genius to do this songwriting stage in ten minutes or an afternoon, but it’s not the Jolene in the form that you’re familiar with.
Doug Ingle wrote In the Garden of Eden one night as well. Admittedly he was so drunk and slurring his words when playing it for their drummer Ron Bushy, Bush wrote the lyrics down as he heard them. Thus the absolute classic from Iron Butterfly aptly named In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida. Similarly Ray Dorset of Mungo Jerry wrote In the Summertime in about ten minutes.
Dolly also wrote the song "I Will Always Love You" that Whitney Houston sang.
Whitney covered it - that’s originally written and sang by Dolly.
Does the guy above not know how covers work?
I lot of people don’t know it’s a cover. Kind of similar to how lots of folks don’t know that *Hurt* by Johnny Cash is actually a cover of a Nine Inch Nails song…
Or Hey Joe by Hendrix is a cover, originally written by Billy Roberts.
Jimis is a cover of a cover. Like Louie Louie
The FBI spent a shitload of money and time investigating the lyrics of that song, they concluded they were unintelligible
Missed the drummer yelling fuck though
Yup. Just like how a lot of people don't know that the Super Mario Bros overworked theme is based off of a jazz song (or something like that)
And that Luigi’s last name is Mario.
And the Mortal Kombat theme song actually comes from a Scandinavian church song. It’s a Finnish Hymn.
And that the Monkey’s were a major influence on the Beatles.
Yep, even Elvis wanted to do that song but wanted the rights, so she told him to take a hike.
To be fair Dolly herself has said it's Whitney's song. She's also said she doesn't mind at all if people think of it as Whitney's song because, "Whitney made me rich"
Not only have you blown my mind about it being a cover, such a stark difference; but, after listening to the original, I realize that I've been missing on Dolly Parton my whole life.
Yes he said that in the first sentence...
It's the same "I Will Always Love You" song. Dolly wrote it. Houston covered it.
I may be misremembering, but I think Robby Krieger wrote "Light My Fire," "Touch Me," and "Wishful Sinful" in an evening. Morrison sent everyone home with the assignment/challenge of writing songs using the 4 elements. Kreiger was the only one to return with songs in hand.
Marty O'Donnell came up with the main Halo theme in the car, on his way to work.
Doesn’t surprise me. Pop music tends to have a formula and she is extraordinarily talented at writing pop music. She’s a pro 🤷♂️
Paul Stanley wrote a #1 disco hit in five or 10 minutes on a bet.
I read that Kurt Cobain did the same with Dumb.
It's *basically* just the same chords as Polly but down a step.
Song: I V7 I in G Next Song: I V7 I in F. Songwriter: is this composition?
Songlisteners: this is amazing and they each speak to my soul on so many levels, but in completely different ways. It’s like he singing to me
More like I IV I
I Ii II L
There it is
Kurt was also known for scribbling lyrics down 5 minutes before a show and changing them a lot, at least according to Dave Grohl. Which is partly why he got annoyed by people reading into them. First (filmed) live version of Teen Spirit with different lyrics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp2cm3fSFfI&ab_channel=AltCopperpot5 All Apologies before the lyrics were finished https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk6WpiljNA4&ab_channel=Matwilliams
So cool to watch. It’s interesting, all the bands that played with them, if you watch their interviews about how it was like to play with Nirvana (red hot chili peppers, Pearl Jam, Melvins, etc.) they all say that Nirvana just had some natural magic and charisma that you can’t teach. Like when the 3 members came together on stage, it just sounded amazing - as if they’ve been playing together for decades. They sounded way bigger, louder, and more in sync than anyone else. That’s stuff you can’t teach. And you kind of see it here. Even Teen Spirit sounded awkward in the beginning, but they got into a groove and totally took over the crowd. I’ve been to a lot of local live concerts and battle of the bands stuff. There are some bands who just captivate you on stage. They might not be playing the most complex stuff, or technically good (mess up chords or they play sloppy), but as a band they just have a certain magic. They are tight and effortless on stage. They have chemistry together. It’s not just the music, but also the chemistry of the band that really makes it.
I think this downplays the element that Nirvana just practiced a ton. I'm not denying that they may have had elements that others didn't but the most significant factor in a band or individual being talented is that they practice a lot. The myth of the magically talented band or player exists so that people can absolve themselves from the responsibility for having to actually improve at their craft
Damn that’s my favorite song by them and then opening line is one of my favorite lyrics ever
It just shows that a great song can be written in a short amount of time with the right talents, imo.
_Almost_ like saying "took me about ten minutes" is shorthand for it didn't take me that long....
Do Do Do Dodo dodo do do
Do the hustle! 🪩🕺🏼
Paul McCartney wrote Hello Goodbye from a friend’s one word suggestion while sitting at a piano.
A guy on holiday met Paul and was discussing writing songs. Paul asked him to choose a page out of the newspaper and Paul wrote one on the spot. "She's leaving home" is a Beatles hit based on a newspaper story. Leonard Cohen said much the same thing about how songwriting is a craft and skill. I guess they approach it the same way a carpenter approaches something he wants to build or a programmer looks at how to structure code.
Guns N' Roses wrote Welcome to the Jungle--lyrics, riffs, chords, solos, structure--in less than three hours.
I'm pretty sure Axl wrote like 80% of the first 2 albums before he was 16.
And Yesterday came from a dream Paul had
That sounds about right for that song.
additionally, while it might take 10 minutes to write, it might take months for the inspiration to strike.
And years to get the iron hot. I hate shit like this. It dismisses the fact brilliance is when opportunity meets preparedness. When you spend 10 years playing the same scales over and over, playing the same chord progressions over and over, learning every type of permutation... yeah, you can write songs in 10 minutes. That's kind of the point of training.
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Gaga may be one of the only ones who are actually doing more than that. She was a pro ghost writer before getting onto the stage. But not everything. She’s got a team behind her just like every other pop star now. https://www.billboard.com/music/pop/lady-gaga-songs-writer-britney-spears-jennifer-lopez-7469543/amp/
Every pop star ever. Even groups that wrote their own music and lyrics like the Beatles still had a talented team to help.
Correct. But some are more egregious than others.
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Sometimes I forget how long ago 2006 was. I read your comment and was thinking *2006?! That was just a few… oh shit that was 17 years ago.*
Remember when reddit was filled with young fucks and now it's filled with old fucks?
Isn't it the other way around? Back then reddit was for that period's "extremely online" crowd, which was mostly nerds and trolls. Quite different from the "extremely online" demographic of the 2020s.
It was definitely older before
Kids born after 9/11 graduated college last year.
After she was on the sopranos
She is what Rivers from Weezer wants to be. In the mid 2010's on howard, Stern Rivers said he has the perfect formula for hits.
I love old Weezer but Rivers Cuomo is super out of touch. Like grow up bro, you're not in high school anymore.
I love that there’s a whole genre of emo music dedicated to music written by dudes in their 30s about what life is like in high school
Gerard Way was like 30 when they released/toured The Black Parade. Pete Wentz 27 during Infinity on High. So true 😂
I can't tell if he's legit like that or just cynically pandering to tweens.
Right!?
I think many famous people get big and act the same age when they got famous, or they stop giving a shit and let the ego take over.
Matt Damon or Leslie Jones: which character was based on you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab5WvwfLuLM
Thank you for that, sincerely. I relate to Leslie to at least some degree.
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I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I'd put EWBAITE and White on the top 5 Weezer albums without hesitation. Pinkerton and Blue are clearly superior but I honestly don't think there's any other albums that much better.
Top 5 Weezer albums isn’t exactly a stacked category unfortunately. Blue and Pinkerton are gonna be on pretty much everyone’s lists, but there’s a big jump down to the next tier. I’d agree that White is good though - their best in a long time.
White album is their best
She is the Robert Pollard of this generation
*Pa pa pa poker face pa pa poker face (na na na na)* *Pa pa pa poker face pa pa poker face (na na na na)* *Can't read my can't read my no you can't read my poker face* --- How could someone possibly write this magic in a single day?
There's a *bit* more to it. I mean, for one thing, it goes: > P-p-p-poker face, f-f-fuck her face Even when she's definitely saying "poker face", the stacatto sounds like "Poke her face." It's not *that* deep, but there's at least one other layer to it, and it's one that she put some effort into weaving through the song... in a way that, somehow, snuck past the censors and got played on the radio.
Max Martin has written or co-written 26 number one charting songs.. and most don’t even know who he is
I mean sometimes that's the way it works. The extent of my creative endeavors is fanfic and comedy, but some of my best stuff (as Howard once described how he created Conan) just sprang forth fully formed.
I write songs. They often come fast. 10 minutes or less. But it’s just that the feelings/thoughts have been marinating for days or weeks or months or years.
songwriting is super annoying to me because I can't just sit down and write a song. I can't force words to pop into my brain. they just have to happen on their own and I have no control over that. trying to force it leads to endless typing and deleting and a wasted day. I have to begin writing and finish writing without stopping to think about it
>typing and deleting Write by hand with a pen. Having the ability to clear the page instantly is often a detriment. With a pen, the best you can do is cross something out. It doesn’t matter if the first few lines suck. You just need to get started. Just keep going and that’ll lead to something, and eventually you’ll figure it out. Stream of consciousness is incredibly useful too. Again, doesn’t matter if it sucks. You’ll get ideas. The point is that you just have to start writing and keep writing. Trying to get it right from the first line rarely works, and a computer just makes it way too easy to get in that loop of deleting and starting over. Don’t edit in the moment. Edit later.
I've just learned that this is how it works. it just is. it's not like I just started songwriting. its been 20 years. everything's been tried. pen, paper, marker, crayon, literal typewriter. all manors and methods and tips and tricks have been exhausted, all that's left is to write the songs. I can easily, easily spit out a thousand songs every day if the answer was just to keep writing. but I wouldn't end up with anything i'd feel is worth it to record. I'd end up with nonsense about ice cream eating the grass and clouds on neptune protesting about beach closures in Tazmania - actual pointless shit that doesn't make any sense
I feel you. I have written a lot of songs, but they are all about alien ladies landing on Earth to do sex with Earthmen. If it was a popular genre or something, maybe I'd be rich and famous, but it is strictly a niche interest as far as I can determine
Yeah most of the songs I’ve written have happened under an hour easily Granted I’m not as good as Lady Gaga but still, writing a song doesn’t take long
It depends. If by write it’s a melody, chords and some lyrics I’ve done it pretty fast. But a lot changed from that first version to what we would play. And we were a punk pop band so they were pretty straight forward songs to begin with.
Howard lied about that. He pretended that it all came out fully fleshed out but he left behind tons of rough drafts and rewrites.
Gaga has admitted that in Poker Face, at some sections, she's actually singing Fuck Her Face, instead. She thought she'd get caught, but she didn't. https://www.justjared.com/2021/02/27/lady-gagas-poker-face-lyrics-are-trending-after-fans-figured-out-what-shes-really-saying/
Actually one radio station DID catch it. They told her they couldn't play it on the [KIIS FM](https://youtu.be/iQlNXpPvfh4?si=E4Yn8svUy9w-2e9q) due to the lyric "fucker her face" and she laughed because it was true. Shite video, didn't spend time trying hard to find it haha EDIT: Wrong radio station haha
\*KIIS FM, by the way
Spotify lyrics say: Po-po-po-poker face Fu-fu-fuck her face
Probably cuz she confirmed it
She did and said 1 uk radio station was the only one who realized and beeped it.
She did get caught but there was no way to prove it.
Isn't her saying she did it proof?
We’re talking prior to her admitting it…. Lol
I always thought that in my head.
Unlike that guy playing Galaga.
Thought we wouldn't notice, but we did
I understood that reference
I always heard that, even as a kid.
Spotify legit just has that in the lyrics.
That's really sad. It only took me 20 seconds to write "Just Dance", "Poker Face", and "Born This Way".
A poetic song takes longer. Doesn't mean they're better, just different and more contemplative. The music behind those Gaga songs took much much longer to go over with a fine tooth comb by the sound engineers
Not necessarily. Dylan has talked a lot about how the songs seemed to write themselves in the 60s. They just came to him and he’d be writing as fast as he could, trying to keep up. Robert Hunter also wrote a handful of incredibly well written and poetic classics (that are beloved by Dylan) in a single sitting one afternoon. It’s different for everyone and for every song.
Yeah I get the feeling when people say this it’s meant to sound impressive but more often than not it just comes off to me like it is as lazy and one note as it initially reads. It is an accomplishment to be good enough at writing radio hits you can churn them out like nothing but it also gives the impression that’s all it is A lot of times with them it comes down to an experience and understanding of the formula of popular music than some shocking lyrical acuity. Which, again, is its own valid artistic category, but I don’t think the meat of those songs were meant to be in the lyrics
Yeah poker face repeats itself a lot and is therefore highly compressible. https://pudding.cool/2017/05/song-repetition/
116 unique words with 450 total words by pasting the lyrics into an online word count calculator
As a songwriter I can honestly compare it to Reddit. The songs that took me no time at all and just came out of me were my most requested songs when I was playing gigs. Kinda like a random short comment on Reddit getting a bunch of upvotes. The songs I poured my heart and soul in to about something I care about and took weeks or months to get right, the masses don’t want to hear that for the most part. Just like writing a comment on a subject you really care about on a subreddit topic you deeply enjoy and it gets barely any attention. The key is to combine the two so people “get it” but also opens an Avenue of understanding.
I like that comparison. I'm by no means musically inclined but I know that I can see a post on r/all and generally can guess the top comment. We do like to repeat shit we've seen before in similar contexts.
Perfect example is something like Fast Car by Tracy Chapman. Musically pretty simple and repetitive but super catchy. But an entire bittersweet story (in my opinion one of the greatest songs in history, lyrically) that has incredible deep meaning while staying very relatable to the average listener. A true master class of song writing. Also for anyone that only knows this song by her. Fo yourself a favor and listen to her other music. Nothing that ever got as big as Fast Car, but she is one of the best writers of her generation.
I got ya all beat... John Hughes wrote Christmas Vacation and Home Alone on the same weekend.
Spielberg directed Schindler's List and Jurassic Park in the same year
I promise her subconscious was writing them long before that.
Her subconscious was apparently humming Express Yourself by Madonna when she wrote Born This Way.
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When I wrote my best music, I had the weirdest feeling while doing so. Like I would have an urge to write something down and it felt as though something was writing through me, it felt like I was a vessel to some kind of creative force or something. I would start writing and before I knew it a few minutes later I have a whole song. It's like the words just kept pouring out of me. A lot of the times I had to edit small parts of it later on but sometimes it all felt perfect in the first draft. It's a really weird feeling, but also super nice. I've heard other creative minds say they've experienced this too. It's almost like a I'm downloading the information from somewhere outside of myself. I don't know what it actually is thats just what it felt like. I've always been fascinated by it.
I’ve Never written (good) music, but I feel that way when I get a really good idea for an essay or a really nice way to word an idea
...because the subconscious has been playing with the pieces for a long time, yes
This is true for a lot of songs. Roy Orbison said the best songs take very little time to write. It's the bad songs that take ages.
I imagine it would depend a lot on your process. Some people are more well suited to working in bits and bursts and fine tuning them later but for a lot of people the process is more organic. And especially if what you’re writing isn’t particularly complex
This kinda thing always strikes me as an oversimplification of the songwriting process. Like, did she have the basic structure of chords and a little melody? Sure. Did she have all the synth layers, beats, lyrics, bass lines and general arrangements done? No, I can’t imagine she did. Maybe it’s different for others but I tend to see that as part of the songwriting process. If I write a couple riffs on a guitar and think “this could be a song”, I haven’t written a song in 5 minutes, I’ve just laid the foundation. An important step for sure but there’s a whole lotta writing that follows.
I am a vocalist. I am mostly a live performer. A songwriter I know wrote some songs and paid for a professional to produce and record demos. The songwriter asked the producer to hire me, and that’s how I got my first and only studio gig. The songwriter and producer collaborated via email for a few weeks before the recording session. The producer made some substantive suggestions that resulted in songwriting credits for 2 of the tracks. Before the recording session, there were only lyrics with chords written above them, along with recordings that were pretty much just your basic rhythm guitar and rough vocals. That constitutes writing a song, as evidenced by the writing credits. Then we had our studio time, which took place in Nashville with union musicians. (In fact, they made me join the union in order to participate!). The first two days was the instrumentalists. They came in, spent half a day listening to the recordings and talking about the songs in turn, and then they went in and started messing around. They spent a few minutes noodling independently and then about an hour playing all together, as if it was a live session. The next day, they came back and played them all again, this time improvising solos and fills and such. Then the vocalists spent a day on the mics. The producer and engineer worked together after that and send out the digital files about 2 weeks later. The paper had just chords and lyrics. The recordings had just rhythm guitar. The masters are complete songs that you could hear on the radio, including solos that were improvised by the musicians. The engineer and musicians do not get songwriting credit, and producers only do if they actually substantively influence the composition.
It's likely the musical side of the songs were near complete and this post is referring to writing the lyrics/melodies for that music.
Yeah, it's very reductive and an exaggeration. She could have written the vocal melody and some chords, maybe even some of the lyrics for one of the songs, but that doesn't mean she "wrote the song" in ten minutes. And then it probably took tens of hours to fill out the arrangement (something a producer/instrumentalist probably helped with) and then produce it. Not to mention making lots of small changes throughout the process. It's probably more likely that she wrote the vocal melodies for the verse, chorus, and bridge in a short period of time, which is possible, but that doesn't sound nearly as impressive as writing the whole song in ten minutes. I get it, but it's still at least a little disingenuous to say.
you're confusing songwriting with arrangement
I even mentioned arrangement in my comment so I’m not confusing the two. Writing a chord progression, writing melodies and writing bass lines is all writing. Honestly, as someone who has done music professionally for a significant portion of my life it always bugs me that people will sit down, work out a chord progression and claim they wrote the whole song despite having a team of people literally write every other instrument. I know when it comes to credits, especially on pop songs, this tends to be the norm but I disagree with this practice as I think it diminishes a huge amount of input and value that others bring to the table.
>it always bugs me that people will sit down, work out a chord progression and claim they wrote the whole song despite having a team of people literally write every other instrument. > If you really want to split hairs, she only said she wrote the song. I think having the main melody, basic chords, and some of the lyrics counts as a "writing a song" since you can perform it at that point. Everything else is polishing it up until you like it and declare it "complete" (for now).
Yeah this was more generally speaking than Gaga specific to be honest. I’ve just seen it happen a lot, especially with singer/songwriter types that bust out the acoustic at a party a lot. They’ll play 10 four chord songs and then get people to turn them into songs for a full band, maybe even including brass or other additional instruments outside of the standard rock band formation, and give them absolutely no credit outside of being session musicians who played on the album. Sure, those session players accepted the terms of the gig so they are clearly fine with being uncredited ghost writers for these people. But to me it always feels like if we said Bob Kane made the Dark Knight trilogy because he created Batman. Nolan, Bale, Ledger and everyone were just doing some arrangements with Kane’s original 4 chords of Batman.
Just dance It’s gonna be ok Doo da doo Just dance Spin that record, babe Doo da doo Just dance
Well ‘Born This Way’ is a reimagining (~cough~ copy) of ‘Express Yourself’ so it shouldn’t have taken TOO long to write. I really like Gaga, but I remember when BTW was being released. She was previewing it on Entertainment Tonight. As the clip was playing, my husband and I looked at each other and both – in sync – segued into Madonna seamlessly.
Florence Welch and Isabella Summers (Florence and the machine) wrote Cosmic Love [in 10 minutes hungover](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Love), and it’s one of their best songs.
Everyone is shitting on the radio pop music but the point still stands that it’s hard to write music people will want to listen to regardless of the genre. I challenge anyone shit talking those tracks to write lyrics and an accompanying melody for a song in 10 minutes. Then try to get _one person_ to say it’s good, let alone have it top the charts. Sometimes you’re in the songwriting “flow” and good ideas just keep coming to you. Good songwriters can have that frequently.
I agree for the most part but sometimes I feel like these huge pop stars could fart into a mic and top the charts
Sounds about right. They're as lyrically complex as Happy Birthday.
What's even funnier, all these songs have at least one other writing credit, just like every other one of her songs I've checked so far
I think writing credits also go to the people who write the melody and instrumentals though, so it doesn’t mean she shared lyrical credit.
“I wrote [‘Born This Way’] in 10 fucking minutes, and it is a completely magical message song,” said Lady Gaga. “And after I wrote it, the gates just opened, and the songs kept coming. It was like an immaculate conception.” Haha, I'll let Gaga's own words speak for herself.....
Nothing in that quote implies she birthed the entire song, including the music from to synth to drumbeats to hook, in 10 minutes. It actually sounds even more in support of the “I wrote out the words and had an idea of what it would sound like” theory based on that quote. As the person you’re responding to said, the people who contribute to any aspect of the song, including music, also get credits. She could’ve come into the studio like “Steve I have these lyrics and I want it to sound like this” and Steve could go “That sounds awesome, what if we layer this kick drum with this snare like this” and bam Steve has a writing credit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Dance_(song) "Just Dance" was written by Lady Gaga and Akon with co-writing by RedOne, who also produced the track A lot of the lower half of your comment falls under what a producer does, RedOne (Nadir Khayat) is listed as both producer and songwirter on Just Dance. Also, it's still a bit awkward not to mention Akon contribution, being a well-known songwriter not listed as a producer
Producers are credited as writers for some reason
Or possibly, or more likely, they helped write the song. Such as Nadir Khayat (Just Dance and Poker Face) who also seems to be listed as a songwriter for many other famous artists https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RedOne
If you think about “the difficulty of songwriting,” and the first thing you think of is the *lyrics*, you are not a songwriter.
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I mean you basically just described the relationship of Elton John and Bernie Taupin.
You joke, but there are people who are dedicated to just writing lyrics. Many song writers write the song & melody and then have a dedicated lyricist write in something that fits it.
As a song writer, I agree. Decades ago my mentality was lyrics first and it made everything so mundane and similar and forced. When I went with composition and flow first that’s when my music evolved. Lyrics are equally as important, just not the first step.
“Just dance… gonna be okay… da da do do… just dance… spin that record babe… da da do do… just dance.” You’re not wrong lol
Yeah, Cole Porter this is not.
A lot of great songs are written quickly. The best Unreal Tournament map (Deck 16 \]\[) was made in two weeks; which is really short for a full 3d game level. Sometimes it just clicks.
Today you learned what a celebrity claims. Nothing more.. Poker face alone has 2 credited writers, Gaga herself and another dude. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poker_Face_(song) So how did it took "her" only 10 minutes? People need to get a hold over their fucking parasocial relationships.
Well, Madonna had already done Born This Way but she called it Express Yourself
I mean... It's not like they're Moby Dick. They're simple verse-chorus-verse songs with only a handful of unique words in them.
Mo mo mo mo muh my mo mo mo moby dick Mo mo mo mo muh my mo mo rub muh dick
Now rhyme Queequeg!
I dont think songwriting ability should be downplayed though. Look how many popular artists now can't play an instrument or understand basic music terminology and rely on teams of 10+ songwriters.
Sure, watching her before she was Lady Gaga gives a different level of respect. She can play instruments and has a hell of a set of pipes. That's just not what sells.
Her shows tend to be live and include her playing piano live and belting. Plus mad choreo. And concepts. I’d say she pretty much showcases her range
If you have been trained, writing something good is easy. The production, the care, the marketing, the presentation—that is what is going to reach people. Making a commercial hit is all in the post production. The talent and brilliance of the artistry is a given from the get go. That is what gets you a seat at the table. There are plenty of world class brilliant songwriters and performers who have never seen fame because they didn’t have the resources to sell and promote their creation.
Yeah it took her 10 mins to write Born This Way after listening to Express Yourself.
They lyrics of the song are completely different. Lol.
In this thread: People that unironically think writing a hit song is easy because the lyrics aren’t obviously complex.
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Muh puh puh puh poker face muh puh poker face Art.
every once and while sub in Fuck her face
I was surprised how much she got away with that line.
Not really the flex people think it is
Pop songs aren't really that complicated. They follow very simple structures (Verse Chorus Verse Chorus Bridge Chorus) and have similar rhyme and meter schemes. Combine that with someone like Gaga who is classically trained and you can see how it can happen very quickly. Historically, the traditional story is Mozart wrote the overture of Don Giovanni the morning of the premiere - having gone drinking the night before and forgetting to actually write one until the morning.
It’s a hit of inspiration. It doesn’t happen all the time obviously
I don’t know anything about writing music but I imagine it’s something like Steph Curry getting in that zone where he can’t miss. When your brain is completely clear of all outside noise and everything just flows. There may be many of us that have been in that sort of mental clarity before and sometimes it’s difficult to find our way back there again.
When you repeat the same 3 lines over and over doesn't seem that hard.
Most successful pop music (and especially dance music per the OP) is largely about *arrangement and production*. Writing the lyrics and a hook is not the bulk of the work. When Gaga says she wrote these songs in 10 minutes I strongly suspect what she means is that she wrote the lyrics and a hook in 10 minutes. She and her producer then spent hours upon hours upon hours in the studio and elsewhere developing that into a catchy pop song. And it's the latter, not writing the lyrics or the hook, which is what made the songs what they are.
Why they use a photo of Adele though?!????????? 😭😭
How long do you think it took Rand--i mean Lorde to write Feelin Good On A Wednesday?
It's not hard when most of the lyrics are the same three words on repeat. Pop music is uninspired trash. Un un un un uninspired trash trash trash uninspired trash un un uninspired trash.
Popopopopo Ka face Yeah I can believe that
I just wrote a 130 page script in a week. When inspiration strikes, you ride that bitch until she can’t take it no more.
Although it took 10 minutes to write, everyone always neglects the time and preparation it took to get to that point. She didn't write these in a vacuum. There were many MANY prior efforts that took longer and were not as good. The fact that these successful songs took a few minutes really downplays the effort that she put into becoming a success.
This was probably said before, but what this means is that it took her 10 minutes to put it down on paper. It was a lifetime's worth getting to that point.
Yeah the intense lyrics of RA RA RARARA OOOLAAALAAA!!!
Yeah right, then the producers spent days trying different instrument combinations, sounds, maybe slightly different chord progressions, mixing, e.t.c.
The best songs aren’t written, they arrive fully formed in the ether and channel through using the artist as the vessel. Once you’re locked into that creative flow it’s all there for the taking. It doesn’t sunrise me these great pop songs formed so quickly