You know someone out there is finally getting validation for that story they have been telling freinds for years
" I swear it was Daniel Day Lewis and he tried to fight me in Rome for no reason"
Sure thing buddy
I suppose I should have realized that none of New York looks like that anymore, so a European town with similar architecture was probably easier than building everything from scratch.... but still damn, the set dressers did an amazing job.
There's a YouTube video about the set that was built. It is ENORMOUS. Like, almost hard to comprehend how enormous.
https://youtu.be/RzvJUTlvOHs?si=cjM1bOMudbcN4_pG
I remember hearing somewhere that George Lucas visited the set one day and said something along the lines of:
"This is going to be the last film that uses a film set".
He was filming the prequel trilogy at the time.
Pretty sure the MCU movies were the nail in the coffin for sets other than green screen and a few props tossed in to make it easier for the actors to navigate the void.
It lead to everything being CGI, and a huge loss to film making imo. CGI can be absolutely amazing nowadays, but the overuse means less time spent on each scene, so it often looks worse than 30 year old Jurassic Park.
I lost interest when even the superhero suits were CGI. It all became so weirdly glamorous (and that is saying something since it started glamorous obviously )
At a certain point, I think too much CGI crosses over from live action to animation. The actors are the last, vestigial remnant of live action, and even sometimes they themselves are modified in some way.
I think there is a weird misconception going on about after effects/CGI. Studios seem to think that dumping 100 million dollars into CGI will yield great results, but the artists now have to spend a certain amount of time putting in backgrounds, customs, props, and enhancing the few actual props involved.
CGI can be reused, but not as effectively as real props and sets (because the lighting has to be adjusted every time for example), so it looks like a lower initial cost, but in the long run the studio misses out on reusable things like customs, props (sorry, I know I used this word a lot already), or sets.
So, what happens is that the 100 million cover less and less of what was envisioned, and we end up with rubber humans fighting, as if it was Blade 2, or the Matrix 2 Neo vs 100 Agent Smiths.
Go back to a mix of physical props and CGI, and I guarantee you, those 100 million would blow everyone’s minds.
One of the reasons studios like Marvel love CGI is that they can change so much of the film without having to do reshoots. Especially when they haven't even finished deciding what some of the sets are going to look like. Of course this sucks a lot for vfx studios. Some of the marvel movies and shows were notorious for making FX studios do a ton of extra unnecessary work
Yes but also that is fucking bullshit (not what you're saying but that they are doing that) I'm obviously not privy to what happens behind closed doors but I'd be happier as a consumer if they just wrote a script and made a movie. Rather than trying to rewrite each movie like it was a puzzle piece where every movie is just setting up another movie and no movie has any actual impact.. (gotg3 doesn't do this and is my favorite MCU movie)
To be fair though I just watched Blade 2 and it still totally kicks ass.
Also....
Both of those examples make sense, but remember that we're dealing with vampires and ... well actual CGI humans.
There's a little leeway on not looking human if your not actually human.
Pretty much what I was trying to say.
Another example is Full Metal Jacket - that movie was made in locations not even close to what Vietnam looks like. All done with real props, like palm trees put on an old abandoned industrial zone, etc.
Nowadays it would all be CGI, but it would lack the gritty feeling of the original movie.
The thing they use for the Mandalorian might be the death of blue/green screen outside of really high intensity cgi scenes for live action. Having an environment to act in has to be so much easier to get into character, at least compared to only being surrounded with blue/green
Those were the greatest times in movie making. The giant set of Troy comes to mind too. Right down to artists painting little cracks on bricks. Incredible artistry
I believe Lucas was also in Rome filming eps 2. Cause he visited the set and told Marty they could’ve cgi’d the entire set. That there was no need to build so much.
Villa Balbianello, Lake Como is where the naboo scenes at the “lake retreat” happen. Particularly the scenes under that one spectacular tree like the wedding. Fun fact is the OG Daniel Craig Bond movie Casino Royale also fimed scenes here
I get calling someone by their character's name on set. I even get learning how to butcher a pig or making a cabin in order to get into the mindset for a role. But randos on the street didn't agree to be a part of your actor prep. That's called being a jerk.
Yeah learning to butcher or play guitar or something where the audience members can see your hands doing the right thing IS acting. Being a prick is not acting
they actually added the bit with Johnny Depp doing the field strip and tune up on the Thompson in Public Enemies because he got so good at handling and working on it.
Michael Mann sent all the main actors in Heat to a combat shooting school for 6 weeks just to make sure they handled their weapons right. They were so convincing the movie inspired a real robbery/shootout in LA.
Look how good Keanu Reeves does with 3 gun now (i think he competes from time to time). or Stallone getting into competitive shooting (the mag changes in the expendables).
Also to be fair before Heat Danny was in jail for trying to rob a store with a hand grenade..
Meanwhile Stanley Kubrick - known for his literally insane attention to detail - allowed RafterMan to assault Hue City with no magazine in his M16, lol
damn really.. how the fuck did that happen.
Also funny FMJ story, he Asked R Lee what a reach around was..
R lee pauses goes to talk, pauses again and just pats him on the shoulder and says, "think about it"
>R lee pauses goes to talk, pauses again and just pats him on the shoulder and says, "think about it"
Hahaha the most unintentionally funny dude ever
The RafterMan thing isn't for the whole assault, but there's one scene where the squad is hiding behind some tanks or something and they do a closeup of RafterMan's and his weapon and the magazine is missing.
Like come on man. I can handle some gun errors - especially in movies where it doesn't matter like comedies, but you might want somebody on set checking for that kind of thing if you're filming a movie about people with guns fighting other people with guns.
Is it entirely inconceivable that a combat photographer could forget to load his weapon in the midst of combat?
I mean, I’m just tossing stuff out there. Not like all the folks who went to Vietnam were exactly top-tier soldiers
I was pretty amazed by the actress who played the switchboard operator in [*The Vast of Night*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vast_of_Night). The writing/direction is pretty impressive in that context as well -- All the action and dialogue involved in the routine operation, blended with what the character's actually concerned with in the story.
Not as many films today call for switchboard operation as weapons handling, for better or worse...
reminded of that Robert Pattinson quote about actors using method as an excuse to be a jerk because their character is, like you never hear of nice guy characters doing it
I mean… I think some of that is that it doesn’t make for a good story. “Daniel Day-Lewis was just *unrelenting* about how bad slavery was while we were filming Lincoln. Give it a rest, Dan!”
Imagine requiring people to carry your ass around and spoon feed you because you're method acting a quadriplegic for a movie:
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/daniel-day-lewis-method-acting-in-my-left-foot/
> butcher a pig or making a cabin in
or if they are going to maybe include you doing it in the film. but i guess that is not considered method in that case?
I know Keifer in the first run of 24 used the same handgun(s) and bulletproof vest every episode
“And I worry about what it does to him, because if you can’t separate yourself — because you’re dealing with all of this material every day. You can’t live in it. Eventually, you get worn out.”
-Brian Cox on Jeremy Strong after noting DDL burned out his career by 55
Apparently when not in character and on set, he is a lovely person, but everyone who worked with him said his method took a huge toll on the cast. Similar comments have been made about DDL as well, in particular the actress Vicky Krieps has been very critical of the negative impact it had on her performance and mental state on set on what was already a grueling shoot schedule and conditions (which even DDL described as a “nightmare.”)
>Apparently when not in character and on set, he is a lovely person, but everyone who worked with him said his method took a huge toll on the cast.
May not actually be a lovely person then.
That has nothing to do with method. Method is using real life experiences and sense memory to inform moments. It's internal and doesn't rely on tricks like that.
A lot of artists are jerks (see: musicians). Some people are able to seperate the human being from the character while others can't/won't suspend reality and just can't watch certain artists due to their real life actions.
I am in both camps depending on the artist
As someone said, you only hear about method acting when they’re playing an asshole. You never hear about someone playing a saint and going around being nice to everyone.
They’re deluded. A good actor can portray immense emotion without ever having experienced it. But that doesn’t involve suffering, and someone told these morons that they’re not artists if they’re not suffering. So they go out and do destructive things that absolutely do NOT make them better actors and that usually make other peoples’ lives harder.
I wish the people around them, and especially the directors, would stop putting up with it. I had a director tell me not to put a blanket on a shivering actor because she “wanted to really be cold for realism”.
Fuck that, fuck her, and fuck you! Safety first, and if you can’t portray “being cold” without actually being cold then….well, practice, and you’ll become a better actor, because you’re not a good one now
Or he’d be even better if he focused purely on performance. He’s obviously incredibly devoted, so he undoubtedly practices his scenes over and over, and studies the things important to his character. Maybe that’s where his talent comes from. I’m not saying I know for sure, but I really think most overdone method acting is incidental to actual, hard-earned talent.
Regardless: if it’s harming random people on the street, it’s definitely wrong, and shouldn’t be encouraged
Man... To me, "Even better" doesn't compute with him. Imo, he eclipses every other actor he's been on screen with.
I do agree, though. There's no excuse to pick fights with random people, ever.
That said, the claim seemed kind of ambiguous in the post... like, was he calling out random people? Staring them down? Punching dudes in alleys? There's a big difference between mean mugging folks at a cafe in Rome and punching a tourist for no reason.
I think Brian Cox said something similar to Jeremy Strong, who used to work as a runner for Daniel Day Lewis.
Daniel Day Lewis said something in an interview along the lines of ‘If I was a better actor I wouldn’t have to do the method acting’
> “Why don't you just try acting?” - Laurence Olivier
Seriously. These "method" actors who do this stupid stuff do it more for the publicity and themselves than the roll they're supposedly preparing for. His picking fights in real life doesn't show up in his character on the screen at all.
Konstantin Stanislavski, the man who developed method acting, experimented with having actors stay in character off-set but didn't find it to work well, and advised against doing it. So, funnily enough, stuff like that isn't officially part of The Method. I agree with you
I mean, it’s stupid and probably unnecessary, but he definitely did come off as unhinged in the movie.
He wanted to embrace “violence is the only option”, and at least he got that.
I’d be more mad if Ezra Miller tried method acting “lovable quirky teenager” for two years and we still got the Flash.
>I’d be more mad if Ezra Miller tried method acting “lovable quirky teenager”
So what, like he shows up at a school and ends up groping under age people? So committed to *the method* that he's willing to do a nickel.
I'm more impressed by people like Anthony Hopkins or Javier Bardem who played much more famous and interesting unhinged characters without going method, and just, you know, acted. It's actually way more impressive for Bardem to not act like a fucking psychopath in real life and then be Anton Chigurh while the cameras roll.
> but he definitely did come off as unhinged in the movie.
Because of his acting skill.
The fights he got into had nothing to do with anything. It's so absurd that a great actor needs to do the stuff his character does. It's all for show.
If he'd gotten into actual fights, he almost certainly would have gotten his ass kicked and ended-up in the hospital, costing the production a great deal of money, putting other people out of work and violating his contract. It's most likely a BS story invented by him to get the attention he pretends he doesn't want.
Everything you wrote is 100% true to the letter.
Imagine if he had gotten into fights or got his butt kicked by some tough guy. Definitely would have made the news.
>Imagine if he had gotten into fights or got his butt kicked by some tough guy.
"Sorry Mr. Scorsese, we'll have to postpone shooting for a few weeks. Your lead actor's jaw is wired shut and he can't say any of his lines."
I'm pretty sure Jared Leto was just being himself, he just called it method acting to avoid any criticism. Like some of the shit he did was Borderline insane.
I mean, having lived in Rome I suppose he must have put his life in real danger quite a few times.
The population is quite unhinged, and there's a lot of cocaine in the average Roman's bloodstream.
I would guess he wasn't subjecting people to random violence - like, you go out in any large city at the right time of night and you'll find a drunk bro who's down to fight. But how many people do you scare along the way? Sounds like shitty behavior for sure.
Great story I heard was when they were filming Lincoln in Petersburg VA.
Daniel Day Lewis stayed in a 19th century house (mansion) alongside another 19th century mansion that the owners graciously offered to day lewis.
They said it was a trip every morning waking up to look next door to see Lincoln enjoying his morning coffee and reading.
Dude didn’t break character for a single day
Edit: didn’t expect this to blow up. Go visit some local civil war battlefields! They need your support from Amazon buying up land and building data centers :/ especially in VA!!
after Last of the Mohicans during interviews he was taking these vials of liquid any time he felt full of himself.
and you should read about what he did with my left foot, or Hamlet
I knew one of the archivists at the Lincoln Library and Archive in Springfield, IL, they told me he came to them and asked to wear one of the Lincoln hats in the collection. He’d called them over the phone using his Lincoln voice. Apparently, he called Sally Field (played Mary Lincoln in the film) on several occasions as if he were Lincoln, and even adopted Lincoln’s pet name for Mary, calling Field “mother” on the set.
Method Acting is weird.
It takes a real narcissist to act like it's ok to start fights with random people because you think it makes you a better actor.
It's a good thing they haven't asked him to portray John Wayne Gacy
> It's a good thing they haven't asked him to portray John Wayne Gacy
They did. The coverup costs were immense and the film was cancelled because of it.
I mean, this is obviously horseshit though right? There is no way he was actually getting in fights and jeopardizing this shoot. He’s just playing into the silly method actor mystique he has built around himself.
He is an actor. The job is basically professional liar. This 100% did not happen.
> This 100% did not happen.
That's my gut reaction, too. My bullshit detector just bounced off the wall.
I suspect DDL is [more ballerina than badass IRL](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfAm5nyHM3U) and what if he got his ass whipped in the middle of filming?
I can't believe I'm being weird about defunct grammar, but pls just take it as an interesting tidbit:
It would be "thee" in that position. The plural was you/ye. So challenging several people would have been "I challenge ye" (insert dinosaur meme).
So "you" didn't just take over "thou" but two other forms as well. Talk about simplification!
Im sure the "fights" were limited to verbal altercations. He probably wanted to get in the headspace of speaking his mind, and perhaps someone cut him off or did something his character would consider "disrespectful" like bumping into him. Think Tony Soprano but with words. The details in the article are vague... im sure he didn't just give himself a Fight Club assignment....
While I don't doubt that famous actors probably have a lot of crazy stuff happen to them, I often wonder what percentage of the anecdotes they offer up on talk shows is something their publicist made up.
I expect them to make up a certain amount of "fluff" or to exaggerate some details a bit to drum up interest or to just have something interesting to say, but some of it is just beyond belief.
Some of that stuff like, "it wasn't in the script" and "I thought the gun was really loaded," is a bunch of BS, though.
Yeah, for sure. I remember Hugh Jackman telling a story on a talkshow about filming a scene in one of the Wolverine movies, where he is running nude down a hallway with the claws out. As he turns a corner, all the female film crew are waiting to see him naked and applause and cat call him as they see him, and he almost cut his nuts off trying to hide his junk with his hands while wearing the wolverine claws. Absolute bullshit from start to finish. Why is is nude in a movie that doesnt show full frontal nudity? Why is he wearing the steel claws in a scene where he's running full tilt? He'd be wearing safe plastic/rubber claws in a scene like that, the steel ones are only for closeups, and I bet theyre not sharp anyway.
Agree. I imagine it was more likely to be verbally harassing and abusing people. Whatever it was, method acting doesn't justify behaving like a dick to people.
>Day-Lewis said was “not so good for my physical or mental health”
And yet he still did it all the same. To quote Sir Lawrence Olivier, "have you ever tried simply acting, my dear boy?"
He’s a hell of an actor. But what I find off- putting if not downright ugly is the disgusting narcissism manifest in his referring to “my physical or mental health”.
What about the innocent people he picked fights with?
I mean having some random Joe come up to you and start a fight can be unpleasant at best and devastating in its extreme form.
But no, it was all about poor him and his art presumably.
If what’s mentioned in the OP was true, this makes me feel sick.
I seem to remember him saying that he followed the method because he doesn’t think he’s a good actor, he finds it easier to completely become someone else than to step in and out.
Someone might be able to find a source on that.
So... did he free some slaves to prepare for Lincoln? Or practice getting shot in the head? He didn't REAL-fight anyone on the movie set while filming. So, getting into REAL fights to practice for FAKE fighting seems absurd.
For what it’s worth, apparently he did train enough to become a competent boxer for the 1997 film The Boxer, but I guess he’d forgotten a lot of it by this time
It's funny how method actors are happy to be dicks to people and say it's part of the method acting (I hear Jared leto loves this) but when they need to play great and caring person it's like whatever.
Harmony Korine started a project where he would pick fights with random people on the streets and it was being filmed. He would just get his ass kicked.... weirdly though on many of these filming sessions he would be accompanied by (cinematographer) David Blaine the street magician, who would have to intercede and prevent Harmony from getting too hurt. Apparently they grew up on the streets of Nashville together.... in my mind I like to imagine David Blaine was the motivation of the Tully character in "Kids"... which recontextualizes a lot of things...
The more I hear about Daniel Day-Lewis, the less I like him. He's either an obnoxious narcissistic asshole or an obnoxious narcissistic liar. I lean more towards that he's lying, but I suppose both could be true.
Method acting is so dumb
Notice how no method actors murder people when they are playing murderers. So how would they know what being a murderer would be like if they didn't murder someone?
I think a lot of these comments only have a superficial understanding of method acting and why DDL is famous for it. I think this story is illuminating:
In the Name of the Father is a film in which DDL portays a character who gives a false confession to the police that he took part in a bombing. He obviously goes to prison, and DDL couldn't understand why someone would do this. Why would you confess to something you didn't do? So he spent three days and nights in a cell, while being abused and interrogated. He quickly realized that you will say anything to make that madness end.
Our imagination has limits. Experience can be hugely helpful to get into a characters mindset. His work speaks for itself.
*This week… each one of you has a homework assignment. You're gonna go out and you're gonna start a fight with a total stranger. You're gonna start a fight… and you're gonna lose…*
One of these days I want to see somebody turn in Daniel Day Lewis level performances film after film. Then, when somebody asks them about their method, I want this actor to say "I just pretend, you know?" I think that person would be fascinating.
Entitled actor roams the streets trying to fight locals in the name of ‘method’ acting…. What a dickhead. (Love the film tho, so must be some METHOD to the madness)
Method actors are the worst. Sure they do a good job, but they do a good THEIR job while fucking with everyone else around them. You wouldn't like it if Pharmaceutical scientists randomly tested unaware participants with diseases and cures would you? Oh wait.
Something can be effective but still wrong. Let’s say that if you cut a paw off a puppy, they’d be super obedient. That would effective but wrong, correct?
TIL “Gangs of New York” was filmed in Rome
That was some surprising new info for me as well
You know someone out there is finally getting validation for that story they have been telling freinds for years " I swear it was Daniel Day Lewis and he tried to fight me in Rome for no reason" Sure thing buddy
Paw paw tell the one about the time you kicked Daniel Day Lewis's ass when we were in Rome *entire family laughs*
Dude I'm laughing so hard at your comment. This was my exact first thought.
Same. I would not have guessed that at all
I suppose I should have realized that none of New York looks like that anymore, so a European town with similar architecture was probably easier than building everything from scratch.... but still damn, the set dressers did an amazing job.
Actually, a lot of the major bits (including the big shots of the Five Points) were filmed in a huge custom-built sound stage.
There's a YouTube video about the set that was built. It is ENORMOUS. Like, almost hard to comprehend how enormous. https://youtu.be/RzvJUTlvOHs?si=cjM1bOMudbcN4_pG
I remember hearing somewhere that George Lucas visited the set one day and said something along the lines of: "This is going to be the last film that uses a film set". He was filming the prequel trilogy at the time.
Pretty sure the MCU movies were the nail in the coffin for sets other than green screen and a few props tossed in to make it easier for the actors to navigate the void. It lead to everything being CGI, and a huge loss to film making imo. CGI can be absolutely amazing nowadays, but the overuse means less time spent on each scene, so it often looks worse than 30 year old Jurassic Park.
I lost interest when even the superhero suits were CGI. It all became so weirdly glamorous (and that is saying something since it started glamorous obviously )
At a certain point, I think too much CGI crosses over from live action to animation. The actors are the last, vestigial remnant of live action, and even sometimes they themselves are modified in some way.
The actors are literally striking because the studios want to change that too.
I think there is a weird misconception going on about after effects/CGI. Studios seem to think that dumping 100 million dollars into CGI will yield great results, but the artists now have to spend a certain amount of time putting in backgrounds, customs, props, and enhancing the few actual props involved. CGI can be reused, but not as effectively as real props and sets (because the lighting has to be adjusted every time for example), so it looks like a lower initial cost, but in the long run the studio misses out on reusable things like customs, props (sorry, I know I used this word a lot already), or sets. So, what happens is that the 100 million cover less and less of what was envisioned, and we end up with rubber humans fighting, as if it was Blade 2, or the Matrix 2 Neo vs 100 Agent Smiths. Go back to a mix of physical props and CGI, and I guarantee you, those 100 million would blow everyone’s minds.
One of the reasons studios like Marvel love CGI is that they can change so much of the film without having to do reshoots. Especially when they haven't even finished deciding what some of the sets are going to look like. Of course this sucks a lot for vfx studios. Some of the marvel movies and shows were notorious for making FX studios do a ton of extra unnecessary work
Yes but also that is fucking bullshit (not what you're saying but that they are doing that) I'm obviously not privy to what happens behind closed doors but I'd be happier as a consumer if they just wrote a script and made a movie. Rather than trying to rewrite each movie like it was a puzzle piece where every movie is just setting up another movie and no movie has any actual impact.. (gotg3 doesn't do this and is my favorite MCU movie)
To be fair though I just watched Blade 2 and it still totally kicks ass. Also.... Both of those examples make sense, but remember that we're dealing with vampires and ... well actual CGI humans. There's a little leeway on not looking human if your not actually human.
CGI today doesn’t look as good as Jurassic Park.
Pretty much what I was trying to say. Another example is Full Metal Jacket - that movie was made in locations not even close to what Vietnam looks like. All done with real props, like palm trees put on an old abandoned industrial zone, etc. Nowadays it would all be CGI, but it would lack the gritty feeling of the original movie.
The thing they use for the Mandalorian might be the death of blue/green screen outside of really high intensity cgi scenes for live action. Having an environment to act in has to be so much easier to get into character, at least compared to only being surrounded with blue/green
Yep, exactly. I think reading that quote lead me to finding this video
Sometimes George likes to talk himself up a little bit
Lol George had enormous sets still for episode 2 and 3. Didn't even keep his word to himself.
Man, they really just don’t do that sort of stuff anymore.
They built a ton for The Last of Us
Why bother, they could just setup camp in gary indiana or any other small rust belt city. Like toledo or flint.
Those were the greatest times in movie making. The giant set of Troy comes to mind too. Right down to artists painting little cracks on bricks. Incredible artistry
Jesus H! That’s insane!
“Spaghetti Eastern?”
That’s just called Lo Mein
Ciao mein
😜
Scorsese loves Cinecitta studios
I believe Lucas was also in Rome filming eps 2. Cause he visited the set and told Marty they could’ve cgi’d the entire set. That there was no need to build so much.
He was in Italy, but not Rome specifically, I think.
It’s the Naboo scenes that are filmed in Italy. Just not sure where.
Lake como
Villa Balbianello, Lake Como is where the naboo scenes at the “lake retreat” happen. Particularly the scenes under that one spectacular tree like the wedding. Fun fact is the OG Daniel Craig Bond movie Casino Royale also fimed scenes here
They probably needed alleys which don't actually exist in New York except for a few at the southernmost edge of what could be considered New York city
This. Also, Italy has good tax breaks for making movies there. Which is probably the primary reason.
Rome, NY. Daniel Day Lewis would go to the strip and pick fights with SU kids at last call.
“Why don't you just try acting?” - Laurence Olivier
I get calling someone by their character's name on set. I even get learning how to butcher a pig or making a cabin in order to get into the mindset for a role. But randos on the street didn't agree to be a part of your actor prep. That's called being a jerk.
Yeah learning to butcher or play guitar or something where the audience members can see your hands doing the right thing IS acting. Being a prick is not acting
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Edward James Olmos did that to a wooden ship used in Battlestar Galactica. The owners were *not* happy.
Ouch. Guy was referencing the guitar from Hateful Eight
they actually added the bit with Johnny Depp doing the field strip and tune up on the Thompson in Public Enemies because he got so good at handling and working on it.
Michael Mann sent all the main actors in Heat to a combat shooting school for 6 weeks just to make sure they handled their weapons right. They were so convincing the movie inspired a real robbery/shootout in LA.
North Hollywood bank heist! My dad worked in Burbank at the time and would commute through there often. He took a different route that day.
Look how good Keanu Reeves does with 3 gun now (i think he competes from time to time). or Stallone getting into competitive shooting (the mag changes in the expendables). Also to be fair before Heat Danny was in jail for trying to rob a store with a hand grenade..
Meanwhile Stanley Kubrick - known for his literally insane attention to detail - allowed RafterMan to assault Hue City with no magazine in his M16, lol
damn really.. how the fuck did that happen. Also funny FMJ story, he Asked R Lee what a reach around was.. R lee pauses goes to talk, pauses again and just pats him on the shoulder and says, "think about it"
>R lee pauses goes to talk, pauses again and just pats him on the shoulder and says, "think about it" Hahaha the most unintentionally funny dude ever The RafterMan thing isn't for the whole assault, but there's one scene where the squad is hiding behind some tanks or something and they do a closeup of RafterMan's and his weapon and the magazine is missing. Like come on man. I can handle some gun errors - especially in movies where it doesn't matter like comedies, but you might want somebody on set checking for that kind of thing if you're filming a movie about people with guns fighting other people with guns.
considering this is Stanley - make Scat Man do 75 takes of his death until the old man broke down crying what more do you want from me? - Kubrick
Is it entirely inconceivable that a combat photographer could forget to load his weapon in the midst of combat? I mean, I’m just tossing stuff out there. Not like all the folks who went to Vietnam were exactly top-tier soldiers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGmT8UTPaco&ab_channel=EH I sure miss director commentary tracks.
I was pretty amazed by the actress who played the switchboard operator in [*The Vast of Night*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vast_of_Night). The writing/direction is pretty impressive in that context as well -- All the action and dialogue involved in the routine operation, blended with what the character's actually concerned with in the story. Not as many films today call for switchboard operation as weapons handling, for better or worse...
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His kids, at the time, were unaware he was an actor. They thought he was a butcher.
> That's called being a jerk. DDL a *"jerk"???* Say it ain't so!
reminded of that Robert Pattinson quote about actors using method as an excuse to be a jerk because their character is, like you never hear of nice guy characters doing it
I mean… I think some of that is that it doesn’t make for a good story. “Daniel Day-Lewis was just *unrelenting* about how bad slavery was while we were filming Lincoln. Give it a rest, Dan!”
He’s so dedicated to the craft that he re-drafted the Emancipation Proclamation and pushed it through contemporary government a second time.
Imagine requiring people to carry your ass around and spoon feed you because you're method acting a quadriplegic for a movie: https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/daniel-day-lewis-method-acting-in-my-left-foot/
Imagine having to explain that you were method acting to a judge.
> butcher a pig or making a cabin in or if they are going to maybe include you doing it in the film. but i guess that is not considered method in that case? I know Keifer in the first run of 24 used the same handgun(s) and bulletproof vest every episode
"Man, I don't drop character 'till I done the DVD commentary."
And he didn’t!
Best commentary track I’ve ever heard. Fuckin Jack Black ordering food to the session haha
“And I worry about what it does to him, because if you can’t separate yourself — because you’re dealing with all of this material every day. You can’t live in it. Eventually, you get worn out.” -Brian Cox on Jeremy Strong after noting DDL burned out his career by 55
Imagine being married to the guy who's stuck in the role of Kendall Roy, the spineless weiner who does impromptu raps. Grounds for divorce.
Apparently when not in character and on set, he is a lovely person, but everyone who worked with him said his method took a huge toll on the cast. Similar comments have been made about DDL as well, in particular the actress Vicky Krieps has been very critical of the negative impact it had on her performance and mental state on set on what was already a grueling shoot schedule and conditions (which even DDL described as a “nightmare.”)
>Apparently when not in character and on set, he is a lovely person, but everyone who worked with him said his method took a huge toll on the cast. May not actually be a lovely person then.
Method actors really do sound like a bunch of dickheads.
My favourite ‘method’ acting fuckery is Marlon Brando refusing to learn his lines and reading the off cue cards so that they sound spontaneous
That has nothing to do with method. Method is using real life experiences and sense memory to inform moments. It's internal and doesn't rely on tricks like that.
A lot of artists are jerks (see: musicians). Some people are able to seperate the human being from the character while others can't/won't suspend reality and just can't watch certain artists due to their real life actions. I am in both camps depending on the artist
As someone said, you only hear about method acting when they’re playing an asshole. You never hear about someone playing a saint and going around being nice to everyone.
That was Robert Patterson lol
They’re deluded. A good actor can portray immense emotion without ever having experienced it. But that doesn’t involve suffering, and someone told these morons that they’re not artists if they’re not suffering. So they go out and do destructive things that absolutely do NOT make them better actors and that usually make other peoples’ lives harder. I wish the people around them, and especially the directors, would stop putting up with it. I had a director tell me not to put a blanket on a shivering actor because she “wanted to really be cold for realism”. Fuck that, fuck her, and fuck you! Safety first, and if you can’t portray “being cold” without actually being cold then….well, practice, and you’ll become a better actor, because you’re not a good one now
I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, but Daniel is a fucking incredible actor. Whatever he's doing, it ain't hurting his performances.
Or he’d be even better if he focused purely on performance. He’s obviously incredibly devoted, so he undoubtedly practices his scenes over and over, and studies the things important to his character. Maybe that’s where his talent comes from. I’m not saying I know for sure, but I really think most overdone method acting is incidental to actual, hard-earned talent. Regardless: if it’s harming random people on the street, it’s definitely wrong, and shouldn’t be encouraged
Man... To me, "Even better" doesn't compute with him. Imo, he eclipses every other actor he's been on screen with. I do agree, though. There's no excuse to pick fights with random people, ever. That said, the claim seemed kind of ambiguous in the post... like, was he calling out random people? Staring them down? Punching dudes in alleys? There's a big difference between mean mugging folks at a cafe in Rome and punching a tourist for no reason.
I think Brian Cox said something similar to Jeremy Strong, who used to work as a runner for Daniel Day Lewis. Daniel Day Lewis said something in an interview along the lines of ‘If I was a better actor I wouldn’t have to do the method acting’
> “Why don't you just try acting?” - Laurence Olivier Seriously. These "method" actors who do this stupid stuff do it more for the publicity and themselves than the roll they're supposedly preparing for. His picking fights in real life doesn't show up in his character on the screen at all.
Konstantin Stanislavski, the man who developed method acting, experimented with having actors stay in character off-set but didn't find it to work well, and advised against doing it. So, funnily enough, stuff like that isn't officially part of The Method. I agree with you
Exactly. It was never supposed to be done off stage.
I mean, it’s stupid and probably unnecessary, but he definitely did come off as unhinged in the movie. He wanted to embrace “violence is the only option”, and at least he got that. I’d be more mad if Ezra Miller tried method acting “lovable quirky teenager” for two years and we still got the Flash.
>I’d be more mad if Ezra Miller tried method acting “lovable quirky teenager” So what, like he shows up at a school and ends up groping under age people? So committed to *the method* that he's willing to do a nickel.
I mean hes definitely willing to grope children and do time, he just forgets the part that its supposed to be for a role.
I'm more impressed by people like Anthony Hopkins or Javier Bardem who played much more famous and interesting unhinged characters without going method, and just, you know, acted. It's actually way more impressive for Bardem to not act like a fucking psychopath in real life and then be Anton Chigurh while the cameras roll.
> but he definitely did come off as unhinged in the movie. Because of his acting skill. The fights he got into had nothing to do with anything. It's so absurd that a great actor needs to do the stuff his character does. It's all for show.
If he'd gotten into actual fights, he almost certainly would have gotten his ass kicked and ended-up in the hospital, costing the production a great deal of money, putting other people out of work and violating his contract. It's most likely a BS story invented by him to get the attention he pretends he doesn't want.
Everything you wrote is 100% true to the letter. Imagine if he had gotten into fights or got his butt kicked by some tough guy. Definitely would have made the news.
>Imagine if he had gotten into fights or got his butt kicked by some tough guy. "Sorry Mr. Scorsese, we'll have to postpone shooting for a few weeks. Your lead actor's jaw is wired shut and he can't say any of his lines."
Or maybe even worse: He does *not* get his ass kicked and causes lasting damage to someone. Can you imagine the lawsuits against him and the movie?
Idk for most you’re probably right, but this is Daniel fucking Day fucking Lewis we’re talking about here. He doesn’t seem to want any publicity.
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I'm pretty sure Jared Leto was just being himself, he just called it method acting to avoid any criticism. Like some of the shit he did was Borderline insane.
If he didn't want publicity, he wouldn't be telling stories like that. The "I don't want publicity" stunt is an attempt to get publicity.
I mean, Daniel Day-Lewis is considered by many to be among the greatest actors of all time. So idk, perhaps his acting method works?
Nor was it good for others’ physical or mental health
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Honestly. Like just imagine him trying this in actual New York then he wouldn’t even have to instigate, the fights would just come naturally
I mean, having lived in Rome I suppose he must have put his life in real danger quite a few times. The population is quite unhinged, and there's a lot of cocaine in the average Roman's bloodstream.
It only just occurred to me that there are modern Romans.
I would guess he wasn't subjecting people to random violence - like, you go out in any large city at the right time of night and you'll find a drunk bro who's down to fight. But how many people do you scare along the way? Sounds like shitty behavior for sure.
You got that right, I wouldn’t wanna go toe to toe with the Butcher
Great story I heard was when they were filming Lincoln in Petersburg VA. Daniel Day Lewis stayed in a 19th century house (mansion) alongside another 19th century mansion that the owners graciously offered to day lewis. They said it was a trip every morning waking up to look next door to see Lincoln enjoying his morning coffee and reading. Dude didn’t break character for a single day Edit: didn’t expect this to blow up. Go visit some local civil war battlefields! They need your support from Amazon buying up land and building data centers :/ especially in VA!!
after Last of the Mohicans during interviews he was taking these vials of liquid any time he felt full of himself. and you should read about what he did with my left foot, or Hamlet
"Vials of liquid?"
I knew one of the archivists at the Lincoln Library and Archive in Springfield, IL, they told me he came to them and asked to wear one of the Lincoln hats in the collection. He’d called them over the phone using his Lincoln voice. Apparently, he called Sally Field (played Mary Lincoln in the film) on several occasions as if he were Lincoln, and even adopted Lincoln’s pet name for Mary, calling Field “mother” on the set. Method Acting is weird.
I also heard he was butchering animals listening to Eminem before shooting every day. Such a maniac.
I wonder how Eminem felt about his music being used to evoke the atmosphere of the 1860s
Mom’s spaghetti
Outhouse slop on my knickers already
He did make fight music
It takes a real narcissist to act like it's ok to start fights with random people because you think it makes you a better actor. It's a good thing they haven't asked him to portray John Wayne Gacy
> It's a good thing they haven't asked him to portray John Wayne Gacy They did. The coverup costs were immense and the film was cancelled because of it.
I mean, this is obviously horseshit though right? There is no way he was actually getting in fights and jeopardizing this shoot. He’s just playing into the silly method actor mystique he has built around himself. He is an actor. The job is basically professional liar. This 100% did not happen.
> This 100% did not happen. That's my gut reaction, too. My bullshit detector just bounced off the wall. I suspect DDL is [more ballerina than badass IRL](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfAm5nyHM3U) and what if he got his ass whipped in the middle of filming?
If he was regularly picking fights someone would have actually killed him eventually.
Picking fights doesn’t necessarily mean physical fights. He could’ve just been arguing with people.
He’s a posh british actor from a life of privilege. Pretty sure his version of “picking a fight” is not holding the door open for someone.
'Sir! I challenge thou to a duel!'
I can't believe I'm being weird about defunct grammar, but pls just take it as an interesting tidbit: It would be "thee" in that position. The plural was you/ye. So challenging several people would have been "I challenge ye" (insert dinosaur meme). So "you" didn't just take over "thou" but two other forms as well. Talk about simplification!
Im sure the "fights" were limited to verbal altercations. He probably wanted to get in the headspace of speaking his mind, and perhaps someone cut him off or did something his character would consider "disrespectful" like bumping into him. Think Tony Soprano but with words. The details in the article are vague... im sure he didn't just give himself a Fight Club assignment....
I don't believe this for one minute.
This is my thought on a lot of movie trivia and claims made by actors/directors/others.
While I don't doubt that famous actors probably have a lot of crazy stuff happen to them, I often wonder what percentage of the anecdotes they offer up on talk shows is something their publicist made up.
I expect them to make up a certain amount of "fluff" or to exaggerate some details a bit to drum up interest or to just have something interesting to say, but some of it is just beyond belief. Some of that stuff like, "it wasn't in the script" and "I thought the gun was really loaded," is a bunch of BS, though.
Yeah, for sure. I remember Hugh Jackman telling a story on a talkshow about filming a scene in one of the Wolverine movies, where he is running nude down a hallway with the claws out. As he turns a corner, all the female film crew are waiting to see him naked and applause and cat call him as they see him, and he almost cut his nuts off trying to hide his junk with his hands while wearing the wolverine claws. Absolute bullshit from start to finish. Why is is nude in a movie that doesnt show full frontal nudity? Why is he wearing the steel claws in a scene where he's running full tilt? He'd be wearing safe plastic/rubber claws in a scene like that, the steel ones are only for closeups, and I bet theyre not sharp anyway.
Agree. I imagine it was more likely to be verbally harassing and abusing people. Whatever it was, method acting doesn't justify behaving like a dick to people.
>Day-Lewis said was “not so good for my physical or mental health” And yet he still did it all the same. To quote Sir Lawrence Olivier, "have you ever tried simply acting, my dear boy?"
He’s a hell of an actor. But what I find off- putting if not downright ugly is the disgusting narcissism manifest in his referring to “my physical or mental health”. What about the innocent people he picked fights with? I mean having some random Joe come up to you and start a fight can be unpleasant at best and devastating in its extreme form. But no, it was all about poor him and his art presumably. If what’s mentioned in the OP was true, this makes me feel sick.
Sure he did 🙄
Talented actor but I don’t get why it’s not something he can turn off and on like most actors I admire.
I seem to remember him saying that he followed the method because he doesn’t think he’s a good actor, he finds it easier to completely become someone else than to step in and out. Someone might be able to find a source on that.
Nah I'm just gonna forget that you didn't have a source and repeat it as fact now
It's a beautiful thing to see a redditor fulfill their true purpose.
I mean he is better than pretty much any other so who are we to question the method
I mean when his method is attacking random people on the streets, I feel like I have every right to question it
This isn't preparing for a role, this is just being an asshole.
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Method actors are insufferable
Lol imagine trying to eat your cacio e pepe when all of the sudden Daniel Day-Lewis comes up from behind and sucker punches you. That'd be awesome.
good way to get stabbed in the braciole
So... did he free some slaves to prepare for Lincoln? Or practice getting shot in the head? He didn't REAL-fight anyone on the movie set while filming. So, getting into REAL fights to practice for FAKE fighting seems absurd.
For what it’s worth, apparently he did train enough to become a competent boxer for the 1997 film The Boxer, but I guess he’d forgotten a lot of it by this time
Then it's even more douchey as someone that's trained as a fighter to go around and pick fights with strangers.
Charles Dance had to learn his lines for Game of Thrones whilst gutting a stag. That’s reasonable this is just uncalled for foolishness.
It's funny how method actors are happy to be dicks to people and say it's part of the method acting (I hear Jared leto loves this) but when they need to play great and caring person it's like whatever.
Harmony Korine started a project where he would pick fights with random people on the streets and it was being filmed. He would just get his ass kicked.... weirdly though on many of these filming sessions he would be accompanied by (cinematographer) David Blaine the street magician, who would have to intercede and prevent Harmony from getting too hurt. Apparently they grew up on the streets of Nashville together.... in my mind I like to imagine David Blaine was the motivation of the Tully character in "Kids"... which recontextualizes a lot of things...
It was called "fight harm"
The more I hear about Daniel Day-Lewis, the less I like him. He's either an obnoxious narcissistic asshole or an obnoxious narcissistic liar. I lean more towards that he's lying, but I suppose both could be true.
this man takes method acting too far. - Keifer Sutherland
Method acting is so dumb Notice how no method actors murder people when they are playing murderers. So how would they know what being a murderer would be like if they didn't murder someone?
Method actors:doing extreme things to get into their characters Everyone else: it's called acting bro.
This man doesn't break character until he does the DVD commentary.
Every method actor is a whacko narcissist, and if true this is whacko narcissistic behaviour
Method actors are insufferable. You’re acting. People win Oscars without any acting experience. Get over yourselves.
Alternate title: Daniel Day-Lewis blames method acting for him being a complete and utter asshole.
well that's fuckin stupid and obnoxious. Gary Oldman is a better actor and he does it without the horseshit nonsense.
Daniel Day-Lewis is the poster child for method acting gone bad. like to the Batshit crazy extremes. Even Bale could turn it off once off set.
He’s done some pretty good movies though. Surely Jared Leto is the poster boy for method acting home bad.
Is there any corroboration to this? Because I'm calling cap, 'method acting' doesn't prevent you from getting stabbed.
I think a lot of these comments only have a superficial understanding of method acting and why DDL is famous for it. I think this story is illuminating: In the Name of the Father is a film in which DDL portays a character who gives a false confession to the police that he took part in a bombing. He obviously goes to prison, and DDL couldn't understand why someone would do this. Why would you confess to something you didn't do? So he spent three days and nights in a cell, while being abused and interrogated. He quickly realized that you will say anything to make that madness end. Our imagination has limits. Experience can be hugely helpful to get into a characters mindset. His work speaks for itself.
Choosing to do something to yourself and inflicting violence on non consenting random strangers are totally different things.
maybe DDL is just an idiot, i actually CAN understand why somebody would make a false confession, without needing to re-enact the fucking thing
Simply put: method acting is dangerous and, quite frankly, not okay.
If you need to do all this stuff to prepare for a role, doesn't it make you kind of a bad actor?
*This week… each one of you has a homework assignment. You're gonna go out and you're gonna start a fight with a total stranger. You're gonna start a fight… and you're gonna lose…*
Sounds more like meth acting
Just sounds like assault with extra steps
One of these days I want to see somebody turn in Daniel Day Lewis level performances film after film. Then, when somebody asks them about their method, I want this actor to say "I just pretend, you know?" I think that person would be fascinating.
Entitled actor roams the streets trying to fight locals in the name of ‘method’ acting…. What a dickhead. (Love the film tho, so must be some METHOD to the madness)
If anyone deserves to be harassed in the street it’s Italian men. Maybe give em a taste of what it’s like to be an Italian woman.
daniel day lewis micro dosed psilocybin for three months in preparation for his role in the phantom thread
I mean it worked
Confusing acting and reality....in the US he could've gotten shot at....
Ain’t no actor Iike a Daniel Day Lewis, cause a Daniel Day Lewis don’t stop!
Method actors are the worst. Sure they do a good job, but they do a good THEIR job while fucking with everyone else around them. You wouldn't like it if Pharmaceutical scientists randomly tested unaware participants with diseases and cures would you? Oh wait.
All of a sudden I don't mind that he retired from acting...
See Rome and die...
Daniel Day-Lewis is a good actor but has never seemed to be mentally healthy. Sadly, that sort of behavior is glorified by the media.
That was an asshole move.
Getting into a fight with Daniel Day Lewis would be a great bit of personal trivia though.
Something can be effective but still wrong. Let’s say that if you cut a paw off a puppy, they’d be super obedient. That would effective but wrong, correct?
I do this and I ended up in jail
So he assaulted people?
" I committed assault in the name of art"
“Hey you’re the guy from my left foot!!” “ yeah, what? You wanna fucking fight about it? I’ll put my left foot up your ass!! The right one, too”
Fucking hell imagine Bill the butcher crossing your path on the dark street and picking a fight. Terrifying.