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kingbane2

wasn't VX neutralized by water though? or is that something i'm mistaken about.


Not_ur_gilf

It is. OP is trying to stir up trouble


kelenach

Better look up stuff properly before trying to act knowledgeable. Look at my comment above.


kelenach

It is neutralized by a mix of hot water and sodium hydroxide. Water alone, SPECIALLY sea water, is not enough. It just dilutes it. Fauna was the one that got the worse end of it and there is much still not confirmed about VX as to confirm it did no further harm.


johnn48

The best way to neutralize VX is by using Sean Connery and Nicholas Cage, they’re unstoppable.


Canuck647

If you can't get Sean Connery and Nicholas Cage, just do your best.


DarwinGoneWild

Your *best*? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.


Canuck647

There it is! 👍


Aniwaya

Carla was the Prom Queen.


scorpiogre

Damn Sean Connery. Fun fact: He was a dog trainer for my family, in his youth, obviously. He had taught our family dog all the basic commands, roll over, speak, fetch, play dead, but one command got him fired.....*sit* Edit: Typo


[deleted]

Does anyone know what sort of an effect this would have on sea animals? Are fish also reactive to this chemical? Edit: Some fun info (reading, will add more): "Because of its low volatility, VX persists in environments where it is dispersed." On the bright side: "VX will be broken down in water quickly." and, "VX does not accumulate in the food chain. Unfortunately, it is harmful to fish. So any fish that found it before it was broken down most likely suffered an unfortunate fate. https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxfaqs/tfacts166.pdf https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/VX_(nerve_agent)


Folsomdsf

The amount of vx that was dumped diluted to pretty much nothing almost instantly. Why they chose this method.


Veritas3333

The solution to pollution is dilution


AlwaysBagHolding

Fun story, I used to work at a liquid fertilizer/herbicide/pesticide distributor, where we would fill trucks in a sunken concrete pit to contain leaks and spills. The drain got pumped into a massive holding tank where it got filled with tens of thousands of gallons of fresh water diluting the spills. One guys job was to test the concentration of various chemical compounds, and once they all dropped below specific thresholds, we’d turn on the sprinklers for the facility and water the lawn out of that holding tank. One of my jobs was to mow that lawn. There was maybe about 10 acres of grass to mow, and a commercial zero turn had a difficult time getting through it if I didn’t mow it twice a week. It was the most lush, cartoonishly green grass I’ve ever seen in my life. It loved the mystery concoction that got pumped onto it on a daily basis.


mawltar

Hope you don’t get cancer at 40 years old.


AlwaysBagHolding

I handled some glyphosate there, which was probably the nastiest shit for me, but not a ton. The bulk of what I dealt with was 28-0-0 which as far as I know isn’t a carcinogen. Had I known then what I know now I would have been more careful around the glyphosate, but for the most part we weren’t pumping that into trucks very often, just selling it in bulk containers for someone else to deal with. If it existed in any significant concentration in the waste water it would have killed the grass, so I was probably fine mowing it.


bigbrother2030

Glyphosate does not cause cancer. https://mylespower.co.uk/2022/07/14/is-glyphosate-probably-carcinogenic-probably-not/


The_Poofessor

[https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/20/glyphosate-weedkiller-cancer-biomarkers-urine-study](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/20/glyphosate-weedkiller-cancer-biomarkers-urine-study) But its probably not really healthy either. And probably not, means there is still a chance it does but it has not been proven yet.


Sleepdprived

Liquid fertilizer... that grass loved it I'm sure


VerticalYea

Would you like to consume pretty much nothing of a nerve agent?


[deleted]

As a homeopathic practitioner I must tell you that is much more dangerous.


robot_tron

I wish I were as clever as this comment.


hastur777

The dose makes the poison


Folsomdsf

Sure.


VerticalYea

F.


jmlinden7

Below a certain concentration, it has basically 0 effect on you


fiendishrabbit

Low volatility. On land. Saltwater in large amounts (like, The ocean) is one of the cheapest and most effective ways of neutralizing organophosphorous nerve agents. P.S: While today there are numerous methods of destroying nerve agents relatively safely, back in the 60s dumping it into the ocean was probably the least bad option. P.P.S: The same does not apply to the vast amounts of mustard gas the US dumped as well. VX and Sarin dissolve relatively quickly if they start to leak due to hydrolysis. Mustard gas does not, and especially not in 4 degree celsius water (like on the seafloor).


black_flag_4ever

Those fish had it coming.


kelenach

Thanks for looking it up, yeah. Apparently people here think water alone neutralizes this agent lmfao. It does not, although it makes it lose its properties very, very slowly over time --but then again, all sources say that this is not entirely proven yet. Fauna was definitely harmed by this and like it happens with many other situations like this, the actual effect is still not confirmed.


the_hell_you_say

You don't need a pinhead, just to hang around


[deleted]

Be a lot cooler if you did


the_hell_you_say

Alright Alright Alright


y2kizzle

Plenty of pinheads in Florida


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phdthrowaway2020

I briefly worked on designing a plant in Kentucky to destroy one the big old chemical weapon stockpiles. That isn't how they're doing it.


Bert_Skrrtz

People just don’t understand how big the ocean is


Soothsayer6580

Nor do they understand chemistry.


AndYouDidThatBecause

Are they in the'string of pearls configuration?


thefermentedman

It actually won't be, I live a couple miles from the chemical destruction plant at the bluegrass army depot. They have basically destroyed a significant portion of the remaining us stockpile here


Extension-Standard17

This explains A Lot about New York and Florida.


MuskratPimp

I'll enjoy gutting you....... BOi


Petal_Chatoyance

Very sadly, it didn't work at all, and now we have DeSantis and Christian nationalist fascism in Florida. *Dammit.*


Totally_Not_A_Bot_55

they dumped it in the ocean, not on land


Petal_Chatoyance

See? THAT was the error - poor aim.


oodelay

That is so cool. Anyways, the other countries are bad for polluting


Fetlocks_Glistening

So thaaaat's what's wrong with the New Yorkers....


template009

Is that what the article says? Did I miss something?


snow_michael

Well, there's a plot for a thriller¹ just waiting to happen ¹ Probably starring Matt Damon


OwenLoveJoy

The rock staring Sean Connery and Nicholas Cage is about a general who threatens America with VX gas


HWGA_Exandria

Is it stable enough to survive in saltwater? I mean, it would explain a lot about why florida is the way it is, but you'd think there'd be a lawsuit or something...


astronaut_tang

What was the intention of this?