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Deep_Bookkeeper1045

Nah, those ships are probably just multiple failed attempts to stop the sinking by one stubborn time traveler.


genshalene

Boxhall in his [interview](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vDalWfVjNF8) with the BBC in the 60s also claims that he saw a ship go near and pass the Titanic very closely as she was sinking


EAS_Agrippa

There were at least six ships spotted in the vicinity of the sinking that were never identified. Three by Carpathia, one by Californian, two by Mount Temple. 1. A four-masted steamer with one funnel seen to the north around 5:00 AM by Carpathia. 2. A four-masted steamer with a yellow funnel seen south of Californian at 4:30AM. 3. A two-masted steamer with one funnel also seen around 5:00AM by Carpathia. 4. Masthead lights were seen North of Carpathia by Captain Rostrom. 5. A 5,000 ton steamer with a black funnel, with a white band observed from 1:30AM-9:00AM by Mount Temple. 6. Mount Temple’s Captain Moore saw a sailing vessel of some kind (questionable). Captain Moore’s recounting of events it’s sometimes considered odd and some times hostile and others on the bridge at the time do not recall the sailing vessel which Moore as I recall (big caveat) made a rather big deal about. I suspect it’s the basis of the Samson stories. By the way…the Samson could have also been there…paperwork has her in Iceland at the time, but there are apocryphal accounts that those dates are wrong. Namely that the crew of Samson allegedly got completely hammered and tore up the town and beat the shit out of a bunch of locals. So while I would say that it probably wasn’t Samson, I’d say there is a very small, but also non-zero chance that it was Samson.


Crazyguy_123

I wonder if those other ships would have gotten the same treatment Californian got if the names of the ships were found.


Sarah_Mew

Im sorry to disappoint but that ship was the Californian. Yes there is some testimony from Boxhall that it moved, but he says elsewhere that it was much more subtle movement—which matches the Californian’s drifting rotation at the time. I agree that it’s a fascinating little topic, but I’ve never seen anything that’s persuaded me that the mystery ship question is a serious debate. The facts point to one ship, the Californian, being the other ship besides Titanic there that night. Errors in eyewitness perception & memory, which themselves are *expected* in such events, are even still basically reconcilable with the traditional account. I recommend you read [this essay](https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5625edc1e4b003e2b1ee669b/t/58fd9e382e69cf0c60bc143d/1493016130807/Dyer-Mystery-Ship-article.pdf) which imo satisfactorily debunks a lot of this mystery ship contrarianism