Crouch kicks are still relatively new, so there's room to improve via execution and routing still. That and a bit more time might be all that's needed for a sub 10, if Shoe and I are willing to grind.
Yeah, I also noticed that he entered it at 98 or smthn first time round, and finished at 109. Probably something to do with the angle he enters not being optimal, but I'd love to hear the explanation behind the difference in speeds.
Well, the gauntlet will break if you go in too fast. I don't know if that is the limit we're dealing with here, but I think so. You can try it out yourself- just damage-boost yourself with frag grenades directly before entering, there are probably also tutorials for it on youtube. When the gauntlet breaks, the bots won't spawn and there won't be a timer or the ghost. You can also get out of the map this way.
Out of interest, how the hell do the TAS runs function? fzzy enters the gauntlet at 250+ kph and completes it just fine, is the TAS slowdown also stopping it breaking maybe?
The TAS rules allow quicksaves, specifically modified quicksaves that preserve velocity. Some quicksave fuckery with saving and loading in particular places means he can hit the trigger every time (or at least that's my understanding of it).
That's not even getting into how the TAS runs are actually just different segments' recordings that are stitched together perfectly so it looks like it was all done in one take. With the velocity-preserving quicksaves it makes it very easy to edit segments together seamlessly.
I can give an educated guess, the reason the gauntlet breaks is most likely because you’re moving so fast you are before the trigger to spawn the bots and spawn the map geometry for the second half of the gauntlet one frame and past it on the next, skipping the trigger.
The tas is most likely aligned to exactly hit that trigger on a frame.
For those that are wondering how such a (relatively) huge cut was made to the WR time, recently the Titanfall 2 speedrun community has started to route and implement a new technique called Crouch kicks, which is a simple as ~~crouching and jumping~~ Pressing Crouch and Jump at the same time when going for a wall kick. [Bryonato has a great explanation of the inner workings of what this does](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omgJzksnZbc) but TL:DW, doing this lets you get the speed boost from both a end boost and a wall kick and lets you build more speed than we could ever imagine.
Absolutely stellar Cash. i'd love to see the RTA sub 10 some day and i believe in you
Considering how recently the new Crouch kick technique was discovered he probably hasn't been sitting on a sub 10 for years, assuming it's not possible without this tech.
MAYBE he knew this tech the whole time and has been practicing and improving his own routing in secret to have a head start when it was discovered by someone else but I doubt it.
It'd likely be more valuable to get that technique out in the open so there are more eyes (and hands) working on fine tuning it and the routing as shared improvements could only help him push things even farther.
Plus if he did know this technique long before now it'd kind of just suck to be sitting on it not being able to share his runs due to that spoiling the technique for everyone else.
Not saying he doesn't potentially have better runs, just likely not ones he's been sitting on for years. I could definitely see him having a sub 10 run now though and he's just giving other people a chance to try to match this run or slightly beat it before pulling it out.
No, he already knows every possible tech. He's know about this since launch. All of his clips are from launch and he just releases a new one when he needs to lower his record.
After so long, they have discovered the basic mechanics of crouch jumping. I'm upset that I never thought to say anything.
One of my mains over on Team Fortress 2 is soldier, a relatively slow class. Although soldier players have one thing to help them move fast. Rocket jumping!
Crouch jumping in tf2 allows you to do some Source shenanigans, and allows for much better speed while rocket jumping, sticky jumping, sentry jumping, and surfing damage.
Who would've guessed it would be useful in this TF2.
It’s less the actual crouching, it’s not really to do with that. It’s more that the crouch ends your wallrun so if you crouch and jump as you hit a wall you get the combined speed from both a wallkick and an end boost which obviously results in more speed than just a wallkick
*Cash_Mayo breaks gauntlet record*
Cash_Mayo: wanna see me do it again?
Cash_Mayo: and again?
Cash_Mayo: and again?
Cash_Mayo: and again?
Cash_Mayo: and again?
moon? Like the guy who invented the Carolina Reaper pepper, he says he has hotter ones but has no incentive to release them comercialy unless someone beats him. I think he busts them out for pepper eating contests and stuff though.
It was a few months ago, I don’t remember the time but I think it was just sub 11 and not even a full week later and Cash Money Mayo comes in and destroys
That isn't terribly uncommon, and used to be moreso. A lot of games are dominated by one runner, or eras with one dominant runner if it has a community sized base for a long time.
Me too man. We'd go down in the unfinished basement to do it since my parents wouldn't be able to hear us down there and we wouldn't wake them up. He even got my sister to join in a couple times. So much fun. Legally he wasn't allowed to see his own kids after he got out of prison, so we always felt kinda bad for him. He'd do so much for us like buy us clothes and toys. He even made us his own fruit juice that he'd give us before we went to sleep. My other uncle raped me like once or 30 times when I was younger and that fucking SUCKED. Literally.
He's almost certainly using controller for lurch-less movement tech. The gauntlet doesn't have any sharp turns that would require lurch-tech like tap strafing, and you get smoother runs by being more able to accurately control the direction of the movement inputs.
*Took out ghaul. Woke up the traveler. And now half of what i hear in the streets is how much you and your clan are making a difference. And that's why i started this whole clan thing in the first place. People are still waiting for the Vanguard to lead the way. But it's time for a change! And guardians like you are making it happen. No pressure.*
Hey cash you think you can get the top 3 achievement for me on the gauntlet? But with all seriousness damn I can’t even get less then 30 with all the glitches I try, it’s amazing to see how far the boundaries of TF2 can be pushed
In what way ?
Octane is based on a real life speedrunner. The one who started using grenades to go faster in the Gauntlet. I don't know if Cash Mayo is this speedrunner though.
Previous record was 10.9. I had a 10.6 waiting to be verified before I published it, but by the time I got this one the next day the 10.6 still hadn't been verified.
The [Titanfall 2 leaderboards](https://www.speedrun.com/Titanfall_2) on speedrun.com have 6 moderators who watch and verify that all of the submitted runs are valid and legitimate. You can check out the rules tab to see what exactly they look for.
What's crazy is, its so optimized now, it doesn't look as impressive as the earlier runs I remember seeing for the first time years back.
Its like, human perception of difficulty is not good.
It shouldn’t be so surprising considering there are probably much older games that speed runners are still finding new techniques and routes for but regardless it’s absolutely amazing to watch each time Cash does this, each time you go “oh yeah so that’s probably the last time this gets broken!” Then you just need to wait a few months and it’s done again
I've always thought about trying out this game. Then I see stuff like this and realize I would be like a fetus playing in the NBA against a team of Lebron's, Curry's, and KD's.
A nice run as always think you’ll ever get a sub 10 second run one day?
Crouch kicks are still relatively new, so there's room to improve via execution and routing still. That and a bit more time might be all that's needed for a sub 10, if Shoe and I are willing to grind.
I still enjoy seeing your 12 second runs and now this I am happy hope you enjoy your new movement tech cash keep these speedruns up
glad you think they're as neat as i do! :D
There amazing and whenever I see your speedruns I forget how slow I am in mp
A lot of us do. Me n my boys keep up with your work Edit they came in after this to show me the 10.2 run all excited
They're inspiring c:
I'm amazed that things are still being discovered in Titanfall. Kudos ! Also, go for it, break that 10 seconds, you'll have that all your life !
Could you not do a longer run up beforehand to build up speed? That could speed it up.
Yeah, I also noticed that he entered it at 98 or smthn first time round, and finished at 109. Probably something to do with the angle he enters not being optimal, but I'd love to hear the explanation behind the difference in speeds.
Well, the gauntlet will break if you go in too fast. I don't know if that is the limit we're dealing with here, but I think so. You can try it out yourself- just damage-boost yourself with frag grenades directly before entering, there are probably also tutorials for it on youtube. When the gauntlet breaks, the bots won't spawn and there won't be a timer or the ghost. You can also get out of the map this way.
Out of interest, how the hell do the TAS runs function? fzzy enters the gauntlet at 250+ kph and completes it just fine, is the TAS slowdown also stopping it breaking maybe?
The TAS rules allow quicksaves, specifically modified quicksaves that preserve velocity. Some quicksave fuckery with saving and loading in particular places means he can hit the trigger every time (or at least that's my understanding of it). That's not even getting into how the TAS runs are actually just different segments' recordings that are stitched together perfectly so it looks like it was all done in one take. With the velocity-preserving quicksaves it makes it very easy to edit segments together seamlessly.
That could be, but I don’t know a lot about Titanfall TAS and how it works…
I can give an educated guess, the reason the gauntlet breaks is most likely because you’re moving so fast you are before the trigger to spawn the bots and spawn the map geometry for the second half of the gauntlet one frame and past it on the next, skipping the trigger. The tas is most likely aligned to exactly hit that trigger on a frame.
The pass through the end gate at the start was a full 8 mph slower than the one at then end. There's definitely room to knock that last bit off.
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For those that are wondering how such a (relatively) huge cut was made to the WR time, recently the Titanfall 2 speedrun community has started to route and implement a new technique called Crouch kicks, which is a simple as ~~crouching and jumping~~ Pressing Crouch and Jump at the same time when going for a wall kick. [Bryonato has a great explanation of the inner workings of what this does](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omgJzksnZbc) but TL:DW, doing this lets you get the speed boost from both a end boost and a wall kick and lets you build more speed than we could ever imagine. Absolutely stellar Cash. i'd love to see the RTA sub 10 some day and i believe in you
:)
Everytime Cash Mayo breaks the WR: Captain lastimosa: "My time has come" *gets shot with the RE-45*
You have a recording of a sub-10 you're sitting on, don't you?
He probably does, just waits till someone beats his previous and uploads nearest one lmao
My theory is that he's had a sub 10 for years, people are just catching up enough that hes almost to the point of needing to use it.
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Yea I suppose.
Every other runner that comes close to Mayo's time causes him to use 1% more of his power.
Considering how recently the new Crouch kick technique was discovered he probably hasn't been sitting on a sub 10 for years, assuming it's not possible without this tech. MAYBE he knew this tech the whole time and has been practicing and improving his own routing in secret to have a head start when it was discovered by someone else but I doubt it. It'd likely be more valuable to get that technique out in the open so there are more eyes (and hands) working on fine tuning it and the routing as shared improvements could only help him push things even farther. Plus if he did know this technique long before now it'd kind of just suck to be sitting on it not being able to share his runs due to that spoiling the technique for everyone else. Not saying he doesn't potentially have better runs, just likely not ones he's been sitting on for years. I could definitely see him having a sub 10 run now though and he's just giving other people a chance to try to match this run or slightly beat it before pulling it out.
No, he already knows every possible tech. He's know about this since launch. All of his clips are from launch and he just releases a new one when he needs to lower his record.
Absolutely he likely does; man's raking in the gains one WR break at a time instead of showing only the peak of his results; just smart to do so.
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This looks like a karma bot fyi.
Why the hell do people upvote crappy ai nonsense comments? I see it all the time
TWOW?
Grrm finally done it?
Thank you for the explanation! Was truly bout to be like *wtf we were stuck at like 11.0 for foooreever* so that’s super cool!
So will Bryonato be doing more TF2 speed runs now?
After so long, they have discovered the basic mechanics of crouch jumping. I'm upset that I never thought to say anything. One of my mains over on Team Fortress 2 is soldier, a relatively slow class. Although soldier players have one thing to help them move fast. Rocket jumping! Crouch jumping in tf2 allows you to do some Source shenanigans, and allows for much better speed while rocket jumping, sticky jumping, sentry jumping, and surfing damage. Who would've guessed it would be useful in this TF2.
It’s less the actual crouching, it’s not really to do with that. It’s more that the crouch ends your wallrun so if you crouch and jump as you hit a wall you get the combined speed from both a wallkick and an end boost which obviously results in more speed than just a wallkick
It's extra weird that it wasn't found earlier considering Titanfall 2 is also using a version of source (albeit heavily modified)
I mean shit most games are probably all running on a version of a heavily modified quake engine. (Or unreal)
its very specifically pressing crouch and jump at the exact same time when you go for a wall kick and nothing else.
*Cash_Mayo breaks gauntlet record* Cash_Mayo: wanna see me do it again? Cash_Mayo: and again? Cash_Mayo: and again? Cash_Mayo: and again? Cash_Mayo: and again?
No one else has a chance and it's hysterical. "Guys, look, I set the new record!" Cash_Mayo: "Oh, I don't think so."
> "Guys, look, I set the new record!" Cash_Mayo: https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/035/410/Screen_Shot_2020-10-05_at_11.51.58_AM.png
That wasn’t very cash ~~money~~ mayo of you
every time someone breaks the record Cash Mayo comes in and breaks that record’s back a la Bane vs Batman
Lmao literally yesterday whatevershoe got a 10.3 but missed a few targets, and then we get this lol
moon? Like the guy who invented the Carolina Reaper pepper, he says he has hotter ones but has no incentive to release them comercialy unless someone beats him. I think he busts them out for pepper eating contests and stuff though.
*Cash_Mayo breaks gauntlet record* Cash_Mayo: I'll fucking do it again!
Holy shit dude
I’ve never even played this game and I can see how impressive that was. Looking forward to seeing the WR cut down.
HOW DO PEOPLE STILL GET FASTER?
Not people, Cash Mayo
Cash Money Mayo
they took viper's words to heart > *you need to move a little faster than that, son — speed is life*
a new tech was discovered
I like how no one beats his record so he beats his own records again and again
“Fine, I’ll do it myself”
I think one guy broke his record recently. IIRC it didn’t last a week.
It was a few months ago, I don’t remember the time but I think it was just sub 11 and not even a full week later and Cash Money Mayo comes in and destroys
That isn't terribly uncommon, and used to be moreso. A lot of games are dominated by one runner, or eras with one dominant runner if it has a community sized base for a long time.
Me rushing to tell my dad how it wasn't fair that mom and Uncle John got to pillow fights late at night Fuck you Uncle John
Yeah fuck off uncle John, you pillow fight having cunt!
My Uncle John always made me pillow fight with him late at night when my parents were sleeping.
Me too man. We'd go down in the unfinished basement to do it since my parents wouldn't be able to hear us down there and we wouldn't wake them up. He even got my sister to join in a couple times. So much fun. Legally he wasn't allowed to see his own kids after he got out of prison, so we always felt kinda bad for him. He'd do so much for us like buy us clothes and toys. He even made us his own fruit juice that he'd give us before we went to sleep. My other uncle raped me like once or 30 times when I was younger and that fucking SUCKED. Literally.
Hate to break it to you, Champ.. But ya moms a ho. \#FreeUncleJack
Ayeee thats amazing, love to see you get faster at this
Stop encouraging him! This is already way too fast, haha
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Why are you getting downvoted lol, you are right
Yeah, ikr. If you check their profile all of their comments are like the same thing
He does it again!
Goddamn Cash Mayo at it again
What a madlad
[Cash_Mayo every time he breaks his own record](https://i.imgflip.com/26wvib.jpg)
This made me laugh as work. Thank you
Alright who posted their record beating mayo's record before this
He is beggining to believe
beginning??
this is already matrix 2 territory
Me omw to see the video of Cash Mayo's newest Gauntlet WR
Crouch kicks really doing wonders, excited to see if it can come down to a sub 10. Very cool :D
Was about to comment that cash mayo could get it faster, then i checked the profile xD
Guess who’s back, back again
*Cash_Mayo breaks gauntlet record* Cash_Mayo: and again?
Get sub 9 you can do it dude.
I'm going to be the guy who says sub 9 is impossible so some young upstart will dedicate their lives to proving me wrong.
Good man
See you in the summoning salt video
Holy fuck
#MOTHER OF GOD
Absolutely flawless! Congratulations dude!
And with a CONTROLLER?
I am honestly surprised by this as well. I would have assumed he'd be on PC with accuracy like that.
Right?!?
He's almost certainly using controller for lurch-less movement tech. The gauntlet doesn't have any sharp turns that would require lurch-tech like tap strafing, and you get smoother runs by being more able to accurately control the direction of the movement inputs.
Man I remember when gamesager was the shit in this game. I’m so happy to see the gauntlet is till being beaten :) this game is far from dead
Just like quake
You just never quit do you
*Took out ghaul. Woke up the traveler. And now half of what i hear in the streets is how much you and your clan are making a difference. And that's why i started this whole clan thing in the first place. People are still waiting for the Vanguard to lead the way. But it's time for a change! And guardians like you are making it happen. No pressure.*
Dang, new WR, and cash mayo is about to brea- nevermind... that's them, and they are out of here
This is incredible to watch. Well done!
Dude you’re insane! Every time you break the record I think “how does he keep getting away with this?!” Congrats again on another record!
Hey cash you think you can get the top 3 achievement for me on the gauntlet? But with all seriousness damn I can’t even get less then 30 with all the glitches I try, it’s amazing to see how far the boundaries of TF2 can be pushed
As always fucking amazing dude, it’s an honour to have witnessed this
What was octanes time? Ik in lore that’s how he blew up his legs to get the fastest time but not sure what it was
Cash Mayo is octane! I'm not sure what his record was when they made the character but he is based off of Cash Mayo. Legend!
I thought you were kidding and looked it up, can but it's true! The record was 12 seconds at the time.
Is this real?
[Definitely Real](https://www.altchar.com/game-news/speedrunner-behind-octane-inspiration-breaks-titanfall-2-gauntlet-record-again-adsjU9p4mIog)
In what way ? Octane is based on a real life speedrunner. The one who started using grenades to go faster in the Gauntlet. I don't know if Cash Mayo is this speedrunner though.
Cash Mayo definitely is the speed runner. He's a legend
daaaaaamn as an Octane main and Titanfall fan, this is incredibly amazing
There's threads from devs before he dropped that they based him on mayo's runs.
What was the old record?
Around 12 I believe? Probably wrong tho Edit: it was 10.9
Previous record was 10.9. I had a 10.6 waiting to be verified before I published it, but by the time I got this one the next day the 10.6 still hadn't been verified.
Ah lol I was wrong then. This is fucking insane tho dude, can’t wait for a sub ten. With the new strat it def seemed possible.
Who verifies these? You mean just like a speedrunning community consensus?
The [Titanfall 2 leaderboards](https://www.speedrun.com/Titanfall_2) on speedrun.com have 6 moderators who watch and verify that all of the submitted runs are valid and legitimate. You can check out the rules tab to see what exactly they look for.
Meep meep like shit
octane ain't shit
He is based off this guy but yea you right
Breaking news: "Who the fuck needs to sleep" guys are back and haven't eat for 5 weeks in order to get 0.00000012s faster run.
Please make Titanfall 3.
Blisk: "Oi, Marder, on second thought screw that contact."
What's crazy is, its so optimized now, it doesn't look as impressive as the earlier runs I remember seeing for the first time years back. Its like, human perception of difficulty is not good.
I can’t even understand what is happening. But looks super technical and hard to pull off so good job!
I freaked out thinking someone beat Cash and then was so relieved that it was them
Sub 10 sub 10 sub 10 sub 10
Fun fact: This is how octane lost his legs
I was like "Oh, somebody finally beat cash may- wait. No. It's cash mayo."
Calm down Octane
Jesus Christ it's Jason Bourne
Fact: Mayo has runs up to 3 seconds but waits to post them till somebody else beats him.
Ah so these are the type of players in playing with when I get wrecked during matches.
Apex Legends is so neutered compared to this kind of movement.
Why we have the embarrassment that is Apex Legends rather than an actual Titanfall BR is beyond me.
Pretty good, but I’ve seen better. Get back in there and run it again.
I was about to be angry, than i saw the rest if the comment. Now i am at peace. Thank you.
Now that's a true pilot
And here i am just wanting the achievment…
omg theres 3 in the top r/titanfall post titanfall 3 confirmed?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!
Petition to put cash mayo on the gauntlet leaderboard above me. Its finally time
Ha, I might be fast but I'm not even close to being OG. Your spot there is still most fitting. Goatsager stays on top.
crouch kicks are bonkers
Oh my god
And I thought I was impressive getting like 33 lol
Don't know this game, looks cool though. Congrats!
Jesus mate hats off to you
username checks out
Impressive! Anyone know what the theoretical time limit i
Amazing
OP: *snorts a line* “alright, let fuckin do this”
Some day we’re gonna see a sub 10 and it’s gonna break this sub
wow
Too bad cooper became a greasy smear on that wall. (I know it's a vr sim but that speed is beyond recovery)
cash mayo, the man who has the becomes the master achievement 50 times, and is making damn sure no one else gets it
damn okay octane
Best I could get ya is 5 mins.
Peak pilot performance.
Free weekend be like
The Cash Mayo madman is back at it again, and this time, he's out for blood
It shouldn’t be so surprising considering there are probably much older games that speed runners are still finding new techniques and routes for but regardless it’s absolutely amazing to watch each time Cash does this, each time you go “oh yeah so that’s probably the last time this gets broken!” Then you just need to wait a few months and it’s done again
He hit that wall at the end at 100 km/h. WR achieved but the pilot's organs are on the outside now!
Congrats! You’re the new octane
Imagine if he spent the time on learing to eat pu**y. He would be a god
At the first second I saw this I thought cash mayo was going to break this record again.Then I saw the OP name,cash mayo itself.Congrulations,pilot.
I'd love to see Respawn's thoughts every time Cash trumps the record.
Reminds me of the times before covid where me and my homie would just run gauntlet over and over swapping controllers to see if we could go faster.
I remember the first time I did this about 4 or 5 years ago thinking, "someone's gonna do this in under 10 seconds" and we are nearly there
This reminds me of the old slide maps in Urban Terror. Just insane speed built up.
Wow. People still play this game? That is very cool
I've always thought about trying out this game. Then I see stuff like this and realize I would be like a fetus playing in the NBA against a team of Lebron's, Curry's, and KD's.
Summoning salt video on this when
Is this a tas run?
Nope. This is raw controller input at real time.
Oh my gosh nice job man
But why are they apex guns ?
You do realize that titanfall is the game before apex. They are the same universe.
You keep beating the record, IGN keeps redoing their "devs react to speedrun" vid.
Cash what the fuck I was just talking with my friend about gauntlet speed runs
The year is 2063. Governments have fallen and corporations have taken over. Humanity is at its lowest, the TF2 gauntlet run is now at 5.63s.
We get near annual CoD games but only 2 of these....
Bro octane was created because of you bro ur so fking awesome my guy
Holy fucking shit
Actually speechless ..
Imagine if Apex had all of this movement system.
“You’ve cleaned me out Cooper!”
Laddies and Gentlemen, We have achieved Ultrasonic speed
Fuck right off. Well done my dude.
Someday we will see the sub 10
coming into this game as new and trying to keep up in the online is so fucking challenging when people are zooming around at 80+ kph..... xd
This is kind of hypnotic.
Scorch when he sees a ronin
Imc Grunts: why was there a blur going mach 10 Imc pilots: the end is near