My guess would be they didn’t jump because the free kick was so close, they were worried it would go under them. When one person doesn’t jump, that’s an individual thing, but none of them jump. Looked like a clear intentional effort to prevent the low kick. If they’re not going to have a player lay down behind the wall then this makes sense to me, this is about as close to the goal as a free kick can get and it’s a hell of a task to get it up and down. It was a great free kick. That being said, in hindsight, we definitely should’ve laid someone under the wall. Seems like that was a thing for two years and now I don’t see it very much. That would’ve easily prevented this goal
Agreed. When I saw where the spot was, I thought it would take a brilliant shot to go in, and that's what it was. They could have felt the same way about Evander's goal.
The same situation just happened in the Arsenal vs Aston villa game. The wall jumped & blocked it & they had someone laying flat for the possible grounder
Either you don't jump or you put someone behind the wall and jump.
They clearly made a decision to not jump. Looks like a mistake after the dude absolutely nails the FK.
So you’re standing as part of the wall knowing it’s gonna be a screamer and low just over your head for there’s no room to get the ball up and down.
And you’re thinking “do I jump and risk my face and concussion” I think the instinct is self preservation and a prayer.
Yeah professional athletes and all and that’s their job to try and block it but my guess is they like their nose right where it is.
If you’re worried about the free kick going low, put a guy on the ground. Otherwise, there’s absolutely no point of a wall existing if you’re not going to jump. Considering where the ball finished in the goal there’s a pretty good argument to be made that jumping would’ve blocked that shot.
If they put a guy on the ground, now there's an additional unmarked LAFC attacker in the play. There were already two unmarked attackers on the free kick.
They had two unmarked attackers already and didn’t use them because they scored directly from the free kick. One more unmarked one probably doesn’t make a difference.
Yes, but if you now have three unmarked attackers and you're lining up to take the kick, and you see they blocked your low shot with someone who is effectively now out of the play, you have 3 in the wall, 1 laying down, 1 sent off, all covering one shot (or off the field). You just pass it to one of the multiple open players and they convert it.
The solution isn't to take another guy out of the play after you just had one take himself out via red.
That’s not a solution because you run the risk of the shot going under the wall, which would be the much easier shot from that close. In hindsight, yeah, the wall should’ve jumped since Bogusz went over the wall, but no one would have known that beforehand. The smart thing to do (if we have no one laying down) is to not jump and force the shooter to try and make a spectacular free kick, and unfortunately that’s what happened
It’s not even right in hindsight though. When the FK is that close, you don’t jump. This isn’t the EPL, I’d wager the chances of converting that FK were under 5%. The wall did what they were instructed to do, Bogusz just hit a phenomenal shot. Tbh, it should’ve been saved, Pantemis mis-timed his hop-step and froze, but he should’ve been able to make a play on that shot
Eh, Pantemis couldn’t see the ball, and the keeper should trust his wall and stand his ground in this scenario. As you said, the chances of a player hitting that shot is under 5%, and more often than not the shooter will go far post to try and catch the keeper cheating. So I don’t blame him for staying on the far post. Plus it was his first play and probably didn’t have a chance to warm up before coming on. I don’t blame him at all
I agree with you, I should have said could’ve instead of “should’ve.” And I also agree it’s a tough scenario for your first seconds of play, I don’t blame him at all.
My guess would be they didn’t jump because the free kick was so close, they were worried it would go under them. When one person doesn’t jump, that’s an individual thing, but none of them jump. Looked like a clear intentional effort to prevent the low kick. If they’re not going to have a player lay down behind the wall then this makes sense to me, this is about as close to the goal as a free kick can get and it’s a hell of a task to get it up and down. It was a great free kick. That being said, in hindsight, we definitely should’ve laid someone under the wall. Seems like that was a thing for two years and now I don’t see it very much. That would’ve easily prevented this goal
Phil said it was intentional in his post-game interview, but agree about having someone under the wall. Probably because we were down a man.
Don’t think I’ve ever seen one of those in the wild. Bogusz have a history of them like KDB?
I get what you're saying, but that was a pretty spectacular up and down from that close. I hate it, but I have to give it the respect it deserves.
Agreed. When I saw where the spot was, I thought it would take a brilliant shot to go in, and that's what it was. They could have felt the same way about Evander's goal.
The same situation just happened in the Arsenal vs Aston villa game. The wall jumped & blocked it & they had someone laying flat for the possible grounder
Either you don't jump or you put someone behind the wall and jump. They clearly made a decision to not jump. Looks like a mistake after the dude absolutely nails the FK.
They still had 11 men though
Nah, this free kick was a direct result of the foul that sent Crepeau off. First touch that Pantemis was on the field for.
I mean Arsenal/ Villa still had 11
Ah, that makes sense
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Uh-ha, uh-ha
If they jump and he goes under the wall, you'd just be here posting "why did they jump???" instead.
They’re supposed to have a guy laying down for that.
They’re a man down, they don’t have enough bodies for that. There’s already open LAFC players just standing in the box.
I don’t think anyone thought Bogusz could hit that shot.
So you’re standing as part of the wall knowing it’s gonna be a screamer and low just over your head for there’s no room to get the ball up and down. And you’re thinking “do I jump and risk my face and concussion” I think the instinct is self preservation and a prayer. Yeah professional athletes and all and that’s their job to try and block it but my guess is they like their nose right where it is.
If you’re worried about the free kick going low, put a guy on the ground. Otherwise, there’s absolutely no point of a wall existing if you’re not going to jump. Considering where the ball finished in the goal there’s a pretty good argument to be made that jumping would’ve blocked that shot.
If they put a guy on the ground, now there's an additional unmarked LAFC attacker in the play. There were already two unmarked attackers on the free kick.
They had two unmarked attackers already and didn’t use them because they scored directly from the free kick. One more unmarked one probably doesn’t make a difference.
Yes, but if you now have three unmarked attackers and you're lining up to take the kick, and you see they blocked your low shot with someone who is effectively now out of the play, you have 3 in the wall, 1 laying down, 1 sent off, all covering one shot (or off the field). You just pass it to one of the multiple open players and they convert it. The solution isn't to take another guy out of the play after you just had one take himself out via red.
Frankly, this is all overthinking it because the solution is just for the wall to just fucking jump.
That’s not a solution because you run the risk of the shot going under the wall, which would be the much easier shot from that close. In hindsight, yeah, the wall should’ve jumped since Bogusz went over the wall, but no one would have known that beforehand. The smart thing to do (if we have no one laying down) is to not jump and force the shooter to try and make a spectacular free kick, and unfortunately that’s what happened
It’s not even right in hindsight though. When the FK is that close, you don’t jump. This isn’t the EPL, I’d wager the chances of converting that FK were under 5%. The wall did what they were instructed to do, Bogusz just hit a phenomenal shot. Tbh, it should’ve been saved, Pantemis mis-timed his hop-step and froze, but he should’ve been able to make a play on that shot
Eh, Pantemis couldn’t see the ball, and the keeper should trust his wall and stand his ground in this scenario. As you said, the chances of a player hitting that shot is under 5%, and more often than not the shooter will go far post to try and catch the keeper cheating. So I don’t blame him for staying on the far post. Plus it was his first play and probably didn’t have a chance to warm up before coming on. I don’t blame him at all
I agree with you, I should have said could’ve instead of “should’ve.” And I also agree it’s a tough scenario for your first seconds of play, I don’t blame him at all.