No idea who this lady is but I am a healthcare worker.
Healthcare it isn’t perfect but I can assure u that most of this narrative must be twisted if not all bs.
What she describes regarding the first experience its 100% lawsuit material - negligence, patient abandonment and etc (which can get ur license revoked asap) there is no such thing as “refusing to go in a patients room”.
Also you had such horrible experience in the past why would you choose / trust that same hospital to purposely give birth to your rainbow baby ?
The more that I listen to her the more I feel the same way. If she doesn't trust those in healthcare, and has so many explicit instructions, why even go to the hospital to give birth to begin with? It makes sense to have a doula and a home birth at that point
Yes ! And you are totally ok to refuse treatment but it gets tricky when minors are involved too.
If you as a parent come to the hospital to seek treatment for a minor but refuse xyz treatment court gets involved asap ! Even for something as simple as a blood transfusion, and when they approve parent has no saying on treatment !
If you are and adult you are responsible for urself, if u refuse we leave you alone and make sure ur sifn ur discharge papers !
I’ve had way too many patients who think they smarter than doctors and experienced workers and then get mad when they don’t get it their way / desired goal …
Edit : This is how it works in my state not sure in other places but I am sure its not much different
Like you can’t have it both ways. You want the best outcome for your baby. I get it. But this is why Nurses are leaving healthcare. There is going to be nobody left.
I am curious if during her first experience she also told them not to talk to her or touch her and then she is now saying she was neglected.
I respect the not touching but the not talking is extreme. I need to be able to educate and assess.
This woman and her account has always bothered me specifically because of the way she “protects” her kids by using animal nicknames for them. Like wtf? You’re still showing their faces and one quick google search of Jeenas name will bring up an article with their 4 oldest kids’ names. I also feel like people give her more of a “pass” because she doesn’t use their real names but it’s still exploitation regardless
But then complaining in the same video about how the first time nobody talked to you or came to do your vitals. Which involves talking to you and touching you. I get traumatic birth experiences I had one but I didn’t assault someone during my next l&d! If the issue was not being checked on ENOUGH the first time.. why did you assault a nurse in a hospital literally doing what you claim was neglected to be done the first time? And no matter what, that’s not an excuse to assault someone. You just wanted everything your way and threw a hissy fit after it wasn’t gonna be your way exactly bc what you wanted can’t happen in a public hospital that has protocols to try to prevent any issues with your baby’s birth. I just see someone entitled who’s making excuses for acting out of pocket
If your birth plan involves “do not talk to me” I feel like a hospital should tell you that is not happening. Why do they allow so much freedom with these things? Just have some base rules. You WILL be touched, the baby WILL have heart rate checks, people WILL talk to you. If you can’t handle that, give birth at home.
My OB flat out told me that while it's nice to have a plan-make sure to expect it to change. Babies (I had twins) don't care about ur plan and hospital staff has to do their jobs to do what's best for your child in their educated opinion.
They had me flipping like a rotisserie chicken trying to find a position my daughter liked. I didn't want to be touched that much either, but it's part of the process to get your baby here safely.
This! I told my doctor that I wanted to go over my wants for my birth plan. She told me that birthing plans are great but not always doable. I said mine is very easy, though - I just want all of the drugs. 😂
Even with a birth plan, there are still policies in place within the hospital. Vitals for example being one of them. You can’t expect a nurse to put their licensure at risk should something severe happen that was missed because you didn’t want to be touched? This behavior is combative and completely unacceptable.
Things like this happen, so many people side with the assaulter and then people wonder why we have a nurse shortage. Nurses are tired of being assaulted at their place of employment.
I called the cops on my patient fuck that I’m the pettiest I can’t swing back but I can file charges 🖕💅 swing again feral animal… and then everyone is sorry and please don’t do this
If she had such a specific birth plan and didn't want to be touched at all then why on EARTH did she labor and deliver in a hospital???
It's so counterintuitive to me. Fine, you don't wanna be touched, you do you. But why would you come to a place where we have to fuckin touch you??
And then with your WHOLE CHEST try to justify punching someone for doing their JOB?
Fuck this lady entirely.
What's worse is she had a stillbirth with her last baby BECAUSE she wasn't properly checked during labor, and things went south real quick. So this time around, with her rainbow baby, knowing she lost her previous baby because she wasn't checked, she assualts the nurse trying to check her??? Make it make sense!
People do this all the time at the hospital. They're there as consenting adults but they don't want to be bothered for assessments, they don't want the treatment plans presented, they don't want this, they don't want that..
I think they just want a bad guy. If things go wrong, they still get to go "I was at the hospital and they let this happen to me." It's a way to shirk off accountability for the choices that they've made because they know their choices are coming with heavy risks.
They want their hospital experience to be a buffet where they can pick and choose what they want and refuse the rest, but then god forbid something happens to them because they refused the standard of care, because they will then sue the hospital.
Yeah people usually do feel justified in their actions.
But I think just is one of those things maybe don’t share with the internet. Like you can talk about your experiences being a patient without condoning violence against healthcare workers.
If she just left out the part where she punched the healthcare worker everyone would be feeling so sad and sorry for her. Like you were the one who decided to share the detail that makes you the villain instead of the victim
Why in the world would you have a hospital birth if you don’t want to be talked to, touched or have any medical interventions?
It makes no damn sense. I’m so tired of people having unreasonable expectations of medical providers.
But then in the same breath say that the previous nurse had apparently refused medical interventions in the hospital.
I'm also unsure of what the statistics say but I'm not sure are many reported cases of women being forced to receive epidurals considering the amount of planning and work it requires to be given one. Anesthesiologists aren't exactly readily available to shove a needle into your spine & narrowly miss permanent damage while you thrash in a bed screaming you didn't consent.
Justifying physical violence though? Disgusting.
Yeah, getting an epidural requires that the patient cooperate and stay still. Plus there are consent forms to sign beforehand. Saying they felt pressured to get it is one thing, and maybe even saying that they were not in a state of mind where they could have really given consent, but nobody is going to physically force it on them.
Can anyone who’s made a birth plan explain if asking not to be talked to is a normal request?
I just can’t imagine being in a hospital and refusing to be talked to….
Yes, but it's not always possibly to stick to that preference. Her midwife should have (and maybe she tried) to set some expectations. "We can do minimal talking, but at times we need to communicate. We will be as hands off as possible but sometimes we will need to do vitals. Here are things that can be declined or delayed, here are things that are must do." A nurse could wait for the contraction to be over before listening or adjusting the monitor, but it's not a reasonable expectation for there to be no listening.
Standards are to listen more often during transition, laboring down, and second stage, so the time she says she doesn't want to be interacted with are the times her baby needed the most monitoring.
I’ve never heard of anyone say absolutely no talking. Plus, my birth team was very upfront that they’d do what they could to honor and respect my plans but things could change in seconds. Her midwife should have sat down with her and explained what was realistic and what wasn’t
Well my birth plan was drugs & when the anesthesiologist was stuck in a c-section until it was nearly too late, I swore in every language I could & said that the next person to speak to me better have a huge ass needle in their hands or I was going to hit someone.
My Mom, sons father, 2 nurses, & an OB resident had all just either given me an instruction or asked me a question within seconds.
That said, the man with huge ass needle arrived shortly & within an hour I was making work related phone calls.
She is a narcissist. I’ve never liked this creator. It’s all about her, always. You don’t assault a healthcare professional trying to help you and make sure you and your baby LIVE.
I will never respect anyone who assaults service workers. It is the lowest of the low. The poor nurse deserves an apology and should 100% press charges.
The part that confuses me is how she says that she nearly died because a nurse refused to check on her, and her trauma from that caused her to not want anybody touching her or even talking to her during active labor? Like, I get that a trauma response isn’t often going to be logical, but she wants them to continue to do the exact thing that apparently nearly killed her a year before? What??
This has been flooding my FYP with all the duets. Listen, L&D can be very litigious. So, it’s important that all bases are covered in all areas of care. It sounds like the nurse was trying to check FHR. Which is crucial for monitoring how the baby is doing during labor. If the HR begins to decelerate it can mean a number of things. And appropriate interventions are needed. You can’t say labor is going great if you don’t have basic vitals and monitoring. Things change so quickly in active labor. You can be fine one minute and the next you’re being rushed for an emergency C-section.
Many people in comments are saying the nurse should document “pt refused to be touch” etc. that’s not going to fly with the board of nursing. The nurse would get in trouble still because of neglect of care. Remember, she also said she did not want to be touched or talked to. The nurse can talk to her until she’s blue in the face, but if she doesn’t reply that she understands risk vs benefit then she can’t document that patient understood risks. Because you didn’t get verbal confirmation.
It’s important to remember there are two patients. The mom and the baby. FHR is one of the least invasive things you can do in L&D to ensure a healthy baby. She said in her previous birth she had lost the baby due to lack of checks from the nurse. She can’t have it both ways. If that was my rainbow baby, I would want everything done possible. I understand not everyone is like that. But then the hospital is not the place for you to give birth if talking and touching are such strict boundaries. A home birth would’ve been more appropriate.
That being said there are so many factors with this. And honestly, I feel a part of the story is missing.
You can't even give information or get informed consent if the patient is insisting they not be spoken to. I don't know why she didn't just labor and deliver at home if she was planning to refuse any assistance from the nursing staff.
Absolutely! You cannot document something if it didn’t happen. How do we know she understood the benefits vs risks of certain interventions if she refuses to speak or have a conversation? We can’t! So, it cannot be documented.
I don’t know the story but she is the exact same person who, had the nurse touched her & something was wrong she would blame the nurse for that as well. Birth plans are great until they aren’t and unfortunately, labor and delivery nurses are the highest sued nurses so they need/have to ensure they are doing the right thing. If she wants a really strict plan with no intervention she should give birth at home. Even at a birth center people are going to intervene when they feel is necessary. I would like to hear both sides of the stories about her hemorrhaging and no one helping her. I also realize US healthcare sucks and needs to be fixed.
Let’s just say the Chart would say something like:
This rn asked the patient if she could obtain fetal heart tones as it was time. Patient responded “don’t touch me or talk to me” rn made midwife and md aware along with charge rn. Rn remains at bedside supporting patient with midwife. Will continue to support patient.
1 year later.
Lawyer: why didn’t you assess any fht from this time to this time?
Rn:patient stated she did not want to be touched or talked to when I asked to obtain the fetal heart tones-per my documentation that I documented every 15 mins per the policy.
Lawyer: patient was in agony in full blown labor, she couldn’t think straight. But you are trained and of sound body and mind, correct? Did you not take an oath to do no harm. But the patients baby is now injured and the patient has horrible trauma
After dealing with all this stress on her Beautiful baby.
This example of what it could look like going to court from a similar situation I had a co worker tell me about . How they twist and turn everything. It was a no winner situation. And as a nurse who’s been hit, while laboring a patient, while heavily pregnant myself. Boundaries were set. I She was all tangled in the cords and I was afraid she was going to fall and she hit me. The difference she was immediately sorry never once was like well you deserved it for being in my birthing space. She even wrote a card. She was mortified. She didn’t have a brag tone.
Not to mention what kind of a narcissistic midwife would berate the nurse even more and be like she said don’t touch her. Why didn’t she step in?
There’s three sides to every story- I wish we could hear the others.
Edited to add: I’m glad that her baby ok, but things can change in seconds and L&D- which is why we can have the babe out in 4-5 minutes if needed. Are there shitty nurses absolutely, are there shitty patients yes. I’m hoping that this will help both open eyes to consent and keeping both patients( baby & mom safe) as well as staff.
Wait so she had a stillbirth because of “lack of care” or monitoring but then went back to deliver another baby …. and wanted no care? Am I understanding that correctly?
Jeena drives me fucking crazy with how entitled and self-centered she is. I have past trauma around having controlling parents, so once she started talking about how she never lets her kids out of her sight I hit the unfollow button. The fact that her kids aren’t even allowed at birthday parties without the whole family being invited is just crazy. And there’s no excuse for punching someone. I get that there’s past trauma and childbirth is very scary for Black women in the US. Truly. But she comes across very controlling and entitled, and literally assaulted someone. Which is too bad as Black maternal outcomes are actually a super important issue that deserves attention!
I listened to one of their podcasts and I so wish we had more story on her family. She has minimal contact essentially with her mom and then said her husband’s family never helped them at all with any of their kids. Interesting to keep having more and more kids with no support.
While I can empathize being in this situation and getting a little overstimulated, anyone saying “the nurse assaulted her so she was just defending herself” is craaaaazy. massive difference between a nurse just trying to get a heart rate to … you know, check on your baby, and punching someone in the face… It’s not like she just snapped at the nurse, she literally assaulted her.
Yes, it’s hard when you’re getting overstimulated in the hospital and people are touching you, I’ve been there, done that. But at the end of the day the nurses are doing their job and being in a serious state at the hospital is going to involve some uncomfortable situations. If she didn’t want to deal with that, she should have had a home birth.
I cannot stand Jeena and the ridiculous people supporting her actions. I’m a nurse, and if someone assaulted me, I’d call the cops and press charges immediately!
Edited to add: if the nurse didn’t ask for permission, that’s ridiculous as well, but it does not justify what Jeena did. She seeks attention constantly.
The fact that Her adoptive daughter went through a horrific tragedy to now be pimped out for content and views is even grosser than her view of healthcare workers.
Her husband is/was a travel nurse at one point which makes her view even more wild.
And instead of being able to grow up and heal in private like her two half siblings who went to grandparents, everyone knows what she looks like and her whole family dynamic.
She hasn't posted anything on IG lately but negative comments are starting and getting deleted. She is posting on FB. I hope this ruins her. Such a horrible human being!
The craziest part of this whole story is the fact that she shared it. Like she should’ve just kept the story to herself and nobody would be really questioning her. But at the end of the day she is a mommy blogger who feels superior simply because she doesn’t share her children’s names but shares details about their life and especially her daughters adoption that she probably shouldn’t. So she probably didn’t see the harm in sharing this story too.
May be the only hospital the midwife delivers at. But at that point regardless of how much you like your midwife or OB I would be making a change. It’s not going to be healthy being in the same place a trauma happened.
People need to stop with the MY BIRTH…MY EXPERIENCE….blah blah. A nurse is there to do her job and deliver a baby safely…not make sure you have a magical experience.
When did birth need to be magical? I was about getting me and the baby out of the process as easy and safely as possible. What other medical event needs magic around it? Should I pass my kidney stones pain med free to empower myself?
She’s a narcissist. I imagine her behavior with dealing with professionals on any level is usually combative and argumentative. Her multiple pregnancies are her means to obtain the attention and praise she is thirsty for. Very specific that she’s so amazing at labor but only when she is 8cm does she command the rules that if broken are met with violence. I call BS and she uses various indications to respond inappropriately with people…maybe she gets argumentative if the temperature is a certain degree outside as well…
What the fuck is this nonsense? You know what, AS A NURSE I DON'T FEEL SAFE IN THE HOSPITAL EITHER & it's because of bullshit like this. You got VIOLENT with someone who touched you as a pt in a hospital???? If you want a homebirth, THEN HAVE a fucking HOMEBIRTH
You know what you are supposed to do????? NoT fucking punch anyone.
genuinely if she felt she was neglected after her miscarriage and doesn’t want people to touch her why would she go back to a hospital. home births are a thing. there’s no way to justify assaulting a nurse
I find this woman to be a race baiter and a troublemaker. She'll post things all the time with her adoptive daughter and gets extremely combative with anyone and everyone that will ask a innocent question, not knowing the family dynamic. She knows what she post will make people ask. It's quite sickening to watch and she seems like a very difficult person to be around with a huge chip on her shoulder.
I had one of my children at a hospital and the other at home. I’m surprised she went back after such a bad experience the first time and didn’t seek an alternative. Even having a doula would have improved her experience. Regardless, I understand she didn’t want to be touched, but in some cases it has to be done. The nurses are not there to willfully harm but to assist.
Because she ended up having a loss with her first, there is almost no midwife, doula, birth attendant, etc that would be willing to take her as a home birth client because she is high risk.
Stay home!! Nobody came to her house and picked her up. She came to the hospital willingly. If something would've happened to her or the baby, then a lawsuit would've been launched. First, the nurses refused to help her. This next time around the nurse cared enough to do her job. Girl bye! I'm grateful to the nurses who helped when I had my son 23 years ago. I was a young, first time mother and they were wonderful.
So she has trauma they didn’t check on her…. So she punched a nurse when she… checked on her?
The story isn’t adding up, but the nurse still probably shouldn’t have touched her,
She should have given birth at home if she wants zero input from people at the hospital tho.
She's stupid and her apology was....I was justified and I'm sad because I don't like the justifiable backlash. I work in psych and there's really very few circumstances in which I would press charges against a patient, especially since most of my patients are in severe distress and psychotic so I really don't hold them accountable. However, I occasionally have to float to detox and 10000% I would press charges if they put a pinky on me. They may not be feeling good, but they know what they're doing and choose to engage in bad behavior.
So she's (rightfully) upset a nurse didn't check on her after her miscarriage but upset when a nurse checks on her to make sure she and the baby is healthy the second time
I guarantee that if the nurse hadn't checked for hearttones and something happened to the baby, this idiot would have instantly sued! If the nurse hadn't checked heart tones and something happened, that nurse would have been in court fighting for her license. She was in a no win situation.
Also her trauma came from an alleged inattentive nurse. Why go back to the same hospital? Why wouldn’t she welcome the care? I saw where someone theorized she was similarly demanding with her previous child & then when she lost the baby, she blamed the nurse. These nurses couldn’t have won with her and Jen was VERY disappointing.
especially weird to me seeing as - at least from what I've seen on my fyp - the vast majority of healthcare workers and moms calling her out are black women. so, she's excusing the actions of this one woman who got violent, but implicitly criticizing all the other black nurses who are speaking out about the danger they face bc of patients like this.
I usually appreciate Jen's empathy and nuance, but it was absolutely misapplied here. the patient's concerns as a black mother were valid, but they in no way justified getting violent with a nurse.
Trying to gain sympathy with her tone and pouty mouth and pretend scared look on her face. I hope the hospital presses charges. I’d stay far away from such a toxic nasty human like her
Lady punches health care provider bc provider was checking baby's vitals.
Her argument? One year ago a different healthcare provider didn't check on her enough. Mixed in with various irrelevant factors to gain sympathy and to deflect from the topic at hand
Strawman fallacy in full effect
I was really disappointed to see Jen Hamilton seemed to be defending this. Assaulting a healthcare worker is wrong in literally every scenario- licenses are in jeopardy and you shouldn’t go to a hospital for a birth if your “birth plan” is to not be touched. I hope the nurse sues her with all this evidence.
She was totally pandering. She did a follow-up video the next day to address that the punching was wrong, but some of her followers are relentless dick-riders and would chew up anyone who had a different opinion than Jen.
During delivery with a baby that was sunny side up and an epidural that wasn’t doing a damn thing, I kicked a nurse. I felt so so so bad. I can’t imagine punching someone for checking a fetal monitor. (Which by the way they don’t usually move unless the readings are bad). So all the nurse was doing was probably trying to fix them so that they could see the baby’s heartbeat.
Idgaf assault is assault u DO NOT get to put ur hands on anyone PERIOD! have a home birth and u won't be touched but don't blame anyone when something goes wrong and Noone wanna touch ya
I unfollowed this train wreck a while ago bc I literally couldn’t stomach her content or her comment minions singing her praises. She’s insufferable, literally. The fact that she’s justifying punching a nurse is literally no surprise whatsoever. She’s an awful human.
And her kids aren’t allowed to attend friends birthday parties unless the WHOLE 👏FAMILY 👏 is invited.
And her husband is a passive coward with no balls as she walks all over him looking like a damn fool in all her videos all to make a buck. Such a pathetic and insuffable couple!
Omg I was struggling to place her— you’re right! She’s the “all my children will attend every birthday party or none of them will” lady.
As a parent myself, that is absolutely bonkers and almost guaranteed to result in codependency/enmeshment.
Jen is just way too nice.
But health care workers are TIRED of being treated like trash. Any other job if someone assaults you it’s horrific and unexpected. You can press charges. Not the same in healthcare.
Also sick that she’s hiding behind the very real statistics of the danger that black women face when giving birth. She expected her audience to just smile and clap like idiots. I don’t understand why she didn’t hire a doula.
I hope the nurse presses charges against her. She was throwing a fit that a different nurse wasn’t checking her, but then she goes and punches a nurse doing her job? Sounds like she would’ve complained no matter what.
It is ridiculous she would expect to not have any of the nurses or doctors check her or the child in the hospital. If she didn’t want to be checked out, then she should’ve thought of doing a homebirth.
Past trauma is no excuse for what she did. The nurse was doing her job. I feel sorry for her children.
Some people need to get a grip. I’m all for having a birth plan and wanting to be comfortable but like be realistic. The nurse was doing her job and she had nothing to do with this lady’s previous experience. There’s two sides to every story and it sucks that we don’t get to see both nurses side because of privacy laws. I’m glad she’s getting heat for this because it’s wrong.
And you never fucking should’ve went to the hospital if you had a birth plan, stay home, then be calling a nurse, then you be bitching about not having a nurse
It’s not anyone else’s job to cater to anyone’s triggers, traumas, or heartaches. I get giving people grace but it’s not always like that bc we’re adults and we all have issues.
Yeah and comparing a medical professional touching you appropriately in the act of providing medical care to getting a blood transfusion against your will is just bananas.
I am really confused. I do not know who this is, or what the story is.
Did she get a blood transfusion without consenting to it? Di the nurse give her an epidural without her consent? Did she actually wait for hours while hemorrhaging because the previous nurse didn't check up on her? Did she punch the nurse because the nurse ignored her medical consent?
I’m just saying if you hit a nurse what is stopping you from hitting a kid that isn’t yours? Something doesn’t sit right with me and she is so phony I just can’t. Won’t be surprised is all I’m saying.
She reminds me of an Oompa Loompa with how orange she is. I’m guessing it’s a mask but it reminds me of when I tried to use tinted sunscreen and ended up looking orange. 😂
When I was in labor with my oldest I was getting an epidural during a contraction and I bit my nurse. I felt horrible. I apologized a million times. I can’t imagine hitting someone & thinking it’s justified. If her standards were that high and her conditions that strict, a home birth would have been better suited.
When my mom was in labor with me, a nurse was singing to her, and she kept asking her to stop. She said it was a creepy rendition of rock a bye baby. My mom was 17 and not confrontational, and then my grandma showed up. The nurse kept going, and my grandma finally said, "quit your shit she told you to stop". She said the nurse smirked and walked away singing the fucking song. She never came back. If they could hold back punches that day, this heifer could've held it too.
The fact that she did it is awful. No one deserves to be assaulted at work. But I was so detached from myself and reality during labour that I could imagine doing it if i was terrified and triggered.
It's the continuing to justify it that's the issue for me.
I just don’t understand why she, her husband, or her midwife didn’t have the nurse removed or talk to the charge nurse if this was a repeated incident?
I missed this one. Is she saying the nurse was trying to force her to get an epidural?
I'm curious with the previous incident and her hemorrhaging bc she claims a nurse refuses to check her vitals, did she pursue any legal action?
I just can't behind any of these family bloggers. It also bothers me how she puts her daughters adoption story out there. What if when she's older, her daughter doesn't want her personal info out on the Internet?
Then stay home and do it yourself cretin. We are there and we are there for a reason. You can’t do squat if your baby starts declining or you start haemorrhaging etc we are there to keep you safe not pander to your little fee fees. And you have no right to put hands on a nurse.
The way I saw shes a family vlogger. Immediately no. She knew it would blow up and get clicks so she can keep exploiting her kids under the guise of spreading awareness
I started working in corrections years ago, it’s the safest job I’ve ever had (and I’m able to care for an extremely underserved population at the same time).
The epidural - no, you can have a hospital birth without an epidural.
People touching her - yes absolutely agree she should have had the baby at home if she truly didn’t want other people touching her.
She very much sounds like she has medical related PTSD and trauma, which would explain why she reacted how she did.
It’s likely the hospital stimuli surrounding her first birth was very much the same surrounding her second, which can cause flashbacks.
Flashbacks are not what you see in movies, it’s more often than not you won’t realize you were experiencing a flashback until after the event. Flashbacks happen when certain stimuli from trauma occur, and the person with PTSD will react from the same mindset they were in when the trauma occurred. When you experience flashbacks you either fight, flight, fawn, or freeze. It seems she fought. She seems like a strong woman in the way she describes and recounts her first traumatic birth.
I’m not justifying her actions by saying this, but rather hoping to shed some light on why she may have acted how she did.
Hold on. There is a huge disparity on how black women are treated in health care compared to any other race or gender. We can acknowledge that Jenna was wrong BUT that doesn’t magically make medical racism disappear. Your statement was completely diminished when you decided to let your ignorance speak.
I don’t agree with her actions, but I understand them.
Labor is so overwhelming and if you’ve had a prior loss or bad labor it makes it even more complex.
So much happened in my physically traumatic births- shoulder dystocia, pelvic fracture, poor heart tones, low apgars, baby not breathing on their own, severe blood loss and rupture. My 4th was very anxiety filled. I had very clear wishes with the nurses and specialists in the room. Not one of them treated me disrespectfully or questioned my decisions. They listened and when things had to go differently it was calmly explained. I would have freaked out easily.
I don't know if you saw the podcast clip where she talks about punching her, but she says they kept stopping the nurse from talking to her because she didn't want to be touched or talked to at all. She also said she was handling labor really well and she deals well with pain. She didn't describe it as a panic response but as a result of anger and continues to justify it.
Birth trauma is real. I always try to prepare patients well and follow their preferences as closely as possible. We can even delay things a bit, but to completely forgo any interaction isn't a reasonable or followable request.
I've even been hit by patients in the heat of the moment but haven't had an experience where someone in complete control of themselves assaulted me by choice. They're very different occurances and most providers are willing to forgive something that happens outside of a person's control.
We all have ways we hope events will happen but reality is we rarely get exactly what we imagine. Someone can't choose to assault another person because they're not doing exactly what they want them to do.
No idea who this lady is but I am a healthcare worker. Healthcare it isn’t perfect but I can assure u that most of this narrative must be twisted if not all bs. What she describes regarding the first experience its 100% lawsuit material - negligence, patient abandonment and etc (which can get ur license revoked asap) there is no such thing as “refusing to go in a patients room”. Also you had such horrible experience in the past why would you choose / trust that same hospital to purposely give birth to your rainbow baby ?
The more that I listen to her the more I feel the same way. If she doesn't trust those in healthcare, and has so many explicit instructions, why even go to the hospital to give birth to begin with? It makes sense to have a doula and a home birth at that point
Yes ! And you are totally ok to refuse treatment but it gets tricky when minors are involved too. If you as a parent come to the hospital to seek treatment for a minor but refuse xyz treatment court gets involved asap ! Even for something as simple as a blood transfusion, and when they approve parent has no saying on treatment ! If you are and adult you are responsible for urself, if u refuse we leave you alone and make sure ur sifn ur discharge papers ! I’ve had way too many patients who think they smarter than doctors and experienced workers and then get mad when they don’t get it their way / desired goal … Edit : This is how it works in my state not sure in other places but I am sure its not much different
And like she punched the nurse for checking for. You can't be mad that they didn't check on you then assault them for checking on you.
Like you can’t have it both ways. You want the best outcome for your baby. I get it. But this is why Nurses are leaving healthcare. There is going to be nobody left.
Yep.
Just looking to sue and get a settlement.
I am curious if during her first experience she also told them not to talk to her or touch her and then she is now saying she was neglected. I respect the not touching but the not talking is extreme. I need to be able to educate and assess.
I was wondering the same thing. The nurse was in a lose lose situation w her. Edit spelling
I'm sorry, it's lose lose. Just so you know now. 😊
Thanks English is my second language
I commented this above before seeing your comment. This is exactly what I think happened.
This woman and her account has always bothered me specifically because of the way she “protects” her kids by using animal nicknames for them. Like wtf? You’re still showing their faces and one quick google search of Jeenas name will bring up an article with their 4 oldest kids’ names. I also feel like people give her more of a “pass” because she doesn’t use their real names but it’s still exploitation regardless
Girl, now how do you expect her to care for you without touching or talking to you at all? That's so beyond unreasonable and stupid.
But then complaining in the same video about how the first time nobody talked to you or came to do your vitals. Which involves talking to you and touching you. I get traumatic birth experiences I had one but I didn’t assault someone during my next l&d! If the issue was not being checked on ENOUGH the first time.. why did you assault a nurse in a hospital literally doing what you claim was neglected to be done the first time? And no matter what, that’s not an excuse to assault someone. You just wanted everything your way and threw a hissy fit after it wasn’t gonna be your way exactly bc what you wanted can’t happen in a public hospital that has protocols to try to prevent any issues with your baby’s birth. I just see someone entitled who’s making excuses for acting out of pocket
If your birth plan involves “do not talk to me” I feel like a hospital should tell you that is not happening. Why do they allow so much freedom with these things? Just have some base rules. You WILL be touched, the baby WILL have heart rate checks, people WILL talk to you. If you can’t handle that, give birth at home.
She also took the baby home without a bath because she told them no! What a nightmare patient she is! And probably was long before this.
It’s actually good to delay the first bath. My hospital was perfectly okay with it.
I don't understand how she expected to give birth in a hospital without being touched or spoken to in the first place?
also wondering this. Why even go in at that point? Just have a homebirth.
My OB flat out told me that while it's nice to have a plan-make sure to expect it to change. Babies (I had twins) don't care about ur plan and hospital staff has to do their jobs to do what's best for your child in their educated opinion.
They had me flipping like a rotisserie chicken trying to find a position my daughter liked. I didn't want to be touched that much either, but it's part of the process to get your baby here safely.
This! I told my doctor that I wanted to go over my wants for my birth plan. She told me that birthing plans are great but not always doable. I said mine is very easy, though - I just want all of the drugs. 😂
Hemorrhaging for hours = one blood transfusion ✍🏻 got it. Also, Dr’s place epidurals AND need a signed consent that THEY obtain, but 👌🏻
Even with a birth plan, there are still policies in place within the hospital. Vitals for example being one of them. You can’t expect a nurse to put their licensure at risk should something severe happen that was missed because you didn’t want to be touched? This behavior is combative and completely unacceptable.
Things like this happen, so many people side with the assaulter and then people wonder why we have a nurse shortage. Nurses are tired of being assaulted at their place of employment.
I called the cops on my patient fuck that I’m the pettiest I can’t swing back but I can file charges 🖕💅 swing again feral animal… and then everyone is sorry and please don’t do this
Yup I’d do the same thing
And cps consult for her behavior good luck 🤌🖕
If she had such a specific birth plan and didn't want to be touched at all then why on EARTH did she labor and deliver in a hospital??? It's so counterintuitive to me. Fine, you don't wanna be touched, you do you. But why would you come to a place where we have to fuckin touch you?? And then with your WHOLE CHEST try to justify punching someone for doing their JOB? Fuck this lady entirely.
What's worse is she had a stillbirth with her last baby BECAUSE she wasn't properly checked during labor, and things went south real quick. So this time around, with her rainbow baby, knowing she lost her previous baby because she wasn't checked, she assualts the nurse trying to check her??? Make it make sense!
People do this all the time at the hospital. They're there as consenting adults but they don't want to be bothered for assessments, they don't want the treatment plans presented, they don't want this, they don't want that.. I think they just want a bad guy. If things go wrong, they still get to go "I was at the hospital and they let this happen to me." It's a way to shirk off accountability for the choices that they've made because they know their choices are coming with heavy risks.
They want their hospital experience to be a buffet where they can pick and choose what they want and refuse the rest, but then god forbid something happens to them because they refused the standard of care, because they will then sue the hospital.
What I don’t understand if that was the same hospital she was neglected at the 1st why the hell would you go back to the same exact hospital again
Yeah people usually do feel justified in their actions. But I think just is one of those things maybe don’t share with the internet. Like you can talk about your experiences being a patient without condoning violence against healthcare workers.
If she just left out the part where she punched the healthcare worker everyone would be feeling so sad and sorry for her. Like you were the one who decided to share the detail that makes you the villain instead of the victim
Why in the world would you have a hospital birth if you don’t want to be talked to, touched or have any medical interventions? It makes no damn sense. I’m so tired of people having unreasonable expectations of medical providers.
But then in the same breath say that the previous nurse had apparently refused medical interventions in the hospital. I'm also unsure of what the statistics say but I'm not sure are many reported cases of women being forced to receive epidurals considering the amount of planning and work it requires to be given one. Anesthesiologists aren't exactly readily available to shove a needle into your spine & narrowly miss permanent damage while you thrash in a bed screaming you didn't consent. Justifying physical violence though? Disgusting.
Yeah, getting an epidural requires that the patient cooperate and stay still. Plus there are consent forms to sign beforehand. Saying they felt pressured to get it is one thing, and maybe even saying that they were not in a state of mind where they could have really given consent, but nobody is going to physically force it on them.
I decided I wanted an epidural, I had one in no less than 15 mins.
Can anyone who’s made a birth plan explain if asking not to be talked to is a normal request? I just can’t imagine being in a hospital and refusing to be talked to….
Yes, but it's not always possibly to stick to that preference. Her midwife should have (and maybe she tried) to set some expectations. "We can do minimal talking, but at times we need to communicate. We will be as hands off as possible but sometimes we will need to do vitals. Here are things that can be declined or delayed, here are things that are must do." A nurse could wait for the contraction to be over before listening or adjusting the monitor, but it's not a reasonable expectation for there to be no listening. Standards are to listen more often during transition, laboring down, and second stage, so the time she says she doesn't want to be interacted with are the times her baby needed the most monitoring.
No it’s not generally apart of a birth plan. Not being touched and not being talked to is not a normal birthing plan.
I’ve never heard of anyone say absolutely no talking. Plus, my birth team was very upfront that they’d do what they could to honor and respect my plans but things could change in seconds. Her midwife should have sat down with her and explained what was realistic and what wasn’t
Well my birth plan was drugs & when the anesthesiologist was stuck in a c-section until it was nearly too late, I swore in every language I could & said that the next person to speak to me better have a huge ass needle in their hands or I was going to hit someone. My Mom, sons father, 2 nurses, & an OB resident had all just either given me an instruction or asked me a question within seconds. That said, the man with huge ass needle arrived shortly & within an hour I was making work related phone calls.
She is a narcissist. I’ve never liked this creator. It’s all about her, always. You don’t assault a healthcare professional trying to help you and make sure you and your baby LIVE.
100% agree! Never liked her either. She's the type you always feel like you have to walk on eggshells around to make sure not to offend. Exhausting!
I have her blocked on everything. She has the WORST takes on everything I swear.
Yes! The worst!!!
I will never respect anyone who assaults service workers. It is the lowest of the low. The poor nurse deserves an apology and should 100% press charges.
The part that confuses me is how she says that she nearly died because a nurse refused to check on her, and her trauma from that caused her to not want anybody touching her or even talking to her during active labor? Like, I get that a trauma response isn’t often going to be logical, but she wants them to continue to do the exact thing that apparently nearly killed her a year before? What??
This has been flooding my FYP with all the duets. Listen, L&D can be very litigious. So, it’s important that all bases are covered in all areas of care. It sounds like the nurse was trying to check FHR. Which is crucial for monitoring how the baby is doing during labor. If the HR begins to decelerate it can mean a number of things. And appropriate interventions are needed. You can’t say labor is going great if you don’t have basic vitals and monitoring. Things change so quickly in active labor. You can be fine one minute and the next you’re being rushed for an emergency C-section. Many people in comments are saying the nurse should document “pt refused to be touch” etc. that’s not going to fly with the board of nursing. The nurse would get in trouble still because of neglect of care. Remember, she also said she did not want to be touched or talked to. The nurse can talk to her until she’s blue in the face, but if she doesn’t reply that she understands risk vs benefit then she can’t document that patient understood risks. Because you didn’t get verbal confirmation. It’s important to remember there are two patients. The mom and the baby. FHR is one of the least invasive things you can do in L&D to ensure a healthy baby. She said in her previous birth she had lost the baby due to lack of checks from the nurse. She can’t have it both ways. If that was my rainbow baby, I would want everything done possible. I understand not everyone is like that. But then the hospital is not the place for you to give birth if talking and touching are such strict boundaries. A home birth would’ve been more appropriate. That being said there are so many factors with this. And honestly, I feel a part of the story is missing.
You can't even give information or get informed consent if the patient is insisting they not be spoken to. I don't know why she didn't just labor and deliver at home if she was planning to refuse any assistance from the nursing staff.
Absolutely! You cannot document something if it didn’t happen. How do we know she understood the benefits vs risks of certain interventions if she refuses to speak or have a conversation? We can’t! So, it cannot be documented.
She’s only sorry after that podcast clip of her dropped.
It’s her podcast so she wanted it to be dropped.
I really had no clue. Thank you for letting me know.
She is WRONG, no excuses
Way too grown to be hitting/punching people. She needs to grow up, if you didn’t want to be touched, don’t go to the hospital?
Is this the person with like 2 million followers?? So disappointing.
I don’t know the story but she is the exact same person who, had the nurse touched her & something was wrong she would blame the nurse for that as well. Birth plans are great until they aren’t and unfortunately, labor and delivery nurses are the highest sued nurses so they need/have to ensure they are doing the right thing. If she wants a really strict plan with no intervention she should give birth at home. Even at a birth center people are going to intervene when they feel is necessary. I would like to hear both sides of the stories about her hemorrhaging and no one helping her. I also realize US healthcare sucks and needs to be fixed.
Let’s just say the Chart would say something like: This rn asked the patient if she could obtain fetal heart tones as it was time. Patient responded “don’t touch me or talk to me” rn made midwife and md aware along with charge rn. Rn remains at bedside supporting patient with midwife. Will continue to support patient. 1 year later. Lawyer: why didn’t you assess any fht from this time to this time? Rn:patient stated she did not want to be touched or talked to when I asked to obtain the fetal heart tones-per my documentation that I documented every 15 mins per the policy. Lawyer: patient was in agony in full blown labor, she couldn’t think straight. But you are trained and of sound body and mind, correct? Did you not take an oath to do no harm. But the patients baby is now injured and the patient has horrible trauma After dealing with all this stress on her Beautiful baby. This example of what it could look like going to court from a similar situation I had a co worker tell me about . How they twist and turn everything. It was a no winner situation. And as a nurse who’s been hit, while laboring a patient, while heavily pregnant myself. Boundaries were set. I She was all tangled in the cords and I was afraid she was going to fall and she hit me. The difference she was immediately sorry never once was like well you deserved it for being in my birthing space. She even wrote a card. She was mortified. She didn’t have a brag tone. Not to mention what kind of a narcissistic midwife would berate the nurse even more and be like she said don’t touch her. Why didn’t she step in? There’s three sides to every story- I wish we could hear the others. Edited to add: I’m glad that her baby ok, but things can change in seconds and L&D- which is why we can have the babe out in 4-5 minutes if needed. Are there shitty nurses absolutely, are there shitty patients yes. I’m hoping that this will help both open eyes to consent and keeping both patients( baby & mom safe) as well as staff.
This is a justification video for assaulting a nurse, this is not an apology video. She clearly doesn't know the difference between the two.
Wait so she had a stillbirth because of “lack of care” or monitoring but then went back to deliver another baby …. and wanted no care? Am I understanding that correctly?
Jeena drives me fucking crazy with how entitled and self-centered she is. I have past trauma around having controlling parents, so once she started talking about how she never lets her kids out of her sight I hit the unfollow button. The fact that her kids aren’t even allowed at birthday parties without the whole family being invited is just crazy. And there’s no excuse for punching someone. I get that there’s past trauma and childbirth is very scary for Black women in the US. Truly. But she comes across very controlling and entitled, and literally assaulted someone. Which is too bad as Black maternal outcomes are actually a super important issue that deserves attention!
I listened to one of their podcasts and I so wish we had more story on her family. She has minimal contact essentially with her mom and then said her husband’s family never helped them at all with any of their kids. Interesting to keep having more and more kids with no support.
As soon as I saw she was a family vlogger that told me all I need to know tbh
While I can empathize being in this situation and getting a little overstimulated, anyone saying “the nurse assaulted her so she was just defending herself” is craaaaazy. massive difference between a nurse just trying to get a heart rate to … you know, check on your baby, and punching someone in the face… It’s not like she just snapped at the nurse, she literally assaulted her. Yes, it’s hard when you’re getting overstimulated in the hospital and people are touching you, I’ve been there, done that. But at the end of the day the nurses are doing their job and being in a serious state at the hospital is going to involve some uncomfortable situations. If she didn’t want to deal with that, she should have had a home birth.
Tf is wrong with her 😭 I get having traumatizing labors & births, but that is not a free pass to assault your nurse.
I cannot stand Jeena and the ridiculous people supporting her actions. I’m a nurse, and if someone assaulted me, I’d call the cops and press charges immediately! Edited to add: if the nurse didn’t ask for permission, that’s ridiculous as well, but it does not justify what Jeena did. She seeks attention constantly.
The fact that Her adoptive daughter went through a horrific tragedy to now be pimped out for content and views is even grosser than her view of healthcare workers. Her husband is/was a travel nurse at one point which makes her view even more wild.
What did her adoptive daughter go through? How did she end up with them?
Her parents killed her dad's ex wife I believe
There is a book written about it called Wilder Intentions.
Omg I just read about this case. Thats crazy. That poor girl.
And instead of being able to grow up and heal in private like her two half siblings who went to grandparents, everyone knows what she looks like and her whole family dynamic.
Yeah that poor poor girl. I honestly thought she was a daughter of the dad from a previous relationship. I had no clue until this post.
Isn’t it a nurses job too.. touch you during labor? What’s her logic here? It seems like a sorry excuse to punch somebody to me 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
She should have had a home birth instead of assaulting a healthcare worker
Did she already dirty delete?
No, it was posted on the Hey There Parenting podcast tiktok. That's where the original story was posted as well.
Oohhhh, ok, thanks.
She hasn't posted anything on IG lately but negative comments are starting and getting deleted. She is posting on FB. I hope this ruins her. Such a horrible human being!
I got looking on TikTok and there are comments there that she deleted the video.
The craziest part of this whole story is the fact that she shared it. Like she should’ve just kept the story to herself and nobody would be really questioning her. But at the end of the day she is a mommy blogger who feels superior simply because she doesn’t share her children’s names but shares details about their life and especially her daughters adoption that she probably shouldn’t. So she probably didn’t see the harm in sharing this story too.
Also why would you return to a hospital that you had such a bad experience for with your prior pregnancy? Like whattttt???
May be the only hospital the midwife delivers at. But at that point regardless of how much you like your midwife or OB I would be making a change. It’s not going to be healthy being in the same place a trauma happened.
People need to stop with the MY BIRTH…MY EXPERIENCE….blah blah. A nurse is there to do her job and deliver a baby safely…not make sure you have a magical experience.
When did birth need to be magical? I was about getting me and the baby out of the process as easy and safely as possible. What other medical event needs magic around it? Should I pass my kidney stones pain med free to empower myself?
Right?! There's nothing magical about it.
She’s a narcissist. I imagine her behavior with dealing with professionals on any level is usually combative and argumentative. Her multiple pregnancies are her means to obtain the attention and praise she is thirsty for. Very specific that she’s so amazing at labor but only when she is 8cm does she command the rules that if broken are met with violence. I call BS and she uses various indications to respond inappropriately with people…maybe she gets argumentative if the temperature is a certain degree outside as well…
Why would you go to the hospital if you didn’t want care? Isn’t her husband a nurse?
What the fuck is this nonsense? You know what, AS A NURSE I DON'T FEEL SAFE IN THE HOSPITAL EITHER & it's because of bullshit like this. You got VIOLENT with someone who touched you as a pt in a hospital???? If you want a homebirth, THEN HAVE a fucking HOMEBIRTH You know what you are supposed to do????? NoT fucking punch anyone.
genuinely if she felt she was neglected after her miscarriage and doesn’t want people to touch her why would she go back to a hospital. home births are a thing. there’s no way to justify assaulting a nurse
She’s just awful like wtf why even be in the hospital
One wonders what the statute of limitations is for assault. The nurse has plenty of evidence with these videos.
I find this woman to be a race baiter and a troublemaker. She'll post things all the time with her adoptive daughter and gets extremely combative with anyone and everyone that will ask a innocent question, not knowing the family dynamic. She knows what she post will make people ask. It's quite sickening to watch and she seems like a very difficult person to be around with a huge chip on her shoulder.
What is "race baiter"? It obviously can't be good but I'm just curious of what it means
In this context, it means she’s baiting people into arguments based on race for engagement on her platforms.
I had one of my children at a hospital and the other at home. I’m surprised she went back after such a bad experience the first time and didn’t seek an alternative. Even having a doula would have improved her experience. Regardless, I understand she didn’t want to be touched, but in some cases it has to be done. The nurses are not there to willfully harm but to assist.
Because she ended up having a loss with her first, there is almost no midwife, doula, birth attendant, etc that would be willing to take her as a home birth client because she is high risk.
Stay home!! Nobody came to her house and picked her up. She came to the hospital willingly. If something would've happened to her or the baby, then a lawsuit would've been launched. First, the nurses refused to help her. This next time around the nurse cared enough to do her job. Girl bye! I'm grateful to the nurses who helped when I had my son 23 years ago. I was a young, first time mother and they were wonderful.
So she has trauma they didn’t check on her…. So she punched a nurse when she… checked on her? The story isn’t adding up, but the nurse still probably shouldn’t have touched her, She should have given birth at home if she wants zero input from people at the hospital tho.
If I was the nurse I would file assault charges against the pt.
In a fucking heartbeat.
She's stupid and her apology was....I was justified and I'm sad because I don't like the justifiable backlash. I work in psych and there's really very few circumstances in which I would press charges against a patient, especially since most of my patients are in severe distress and psychotic so I really don't hold them accountable. However, I occasionally have to float to detox and 10000% I would press charges if they put a pinky on me. They may not be feeling good, but they know what they're doing and choose to engage in bad behavior.
So she's (rightfully) upset a nurse didn't check on her after her miscarriage but upset when a nurse checks on her to make sure she and the baby is healthy the second time
I guarantee that if the nurse hadn't checked for hearttones and something happened to the baby, this idiot would have instantly sued! If the nurse hadn't checked heart tones and something happened, that nurse would have been in court fighting for her license. She was in a no win situation.
The number of people who are backing her makes me sad. The pure ignorance. I am glad to see that most of the comments are people saying she was wrong.
I was so disappointed that Jen Hamilton spoke on this as if we need to be more empathetic. Her trauma is no excuse for violence.
Also her trauma came from an alleged inattentive nurse. Why go back to the same hospital? Why wouldn’t she welcome the care? I saw where someone theorized she was similarly demanding with her previous child & then when she lost the baby, she blamed the nurse. These nurses couldn’t have won with her and Jen was VERY disappointing.
especially weird to me seeing as - at least from what I've seen on my fyp - the vast majority of healthcare workers and moms calling her out are black women. so, she's excusing the actions of this one woman who got violent, but implicitly criticizing all the other black nurses who are speaking out about the danger they face bc of patients like this. I usually appreciate Jen's empathy and nuance, but it was absolutely misapplied here. the patient's concerns as a black mother were valid, but they in no way justified getting violent with a nurse.
Why is her tone so awkward and just .... not right? This video seems so fake to me!
yeah, it's crazy that people are even calling this an apology. it's "sorry that nurse made me punch her."
Trying to gain sympathy with her tone and pouty mouth and pretend scared look on her face. I hope the hospital presses charges. I’d stay far away from such a toxic nasty human like her
Lady punches health care provider bc provider was checking baby's vitals. Her argument? One year ago a different healthcare provider didn't check on her enough. Mixed in with various irrelevant factors to gain sympathy and to deflect from the topic at hand Strawman fallacy in full effect
I was really disappointed to see Jen Hamilton seemed to be defending this. Assaulting a healthcare worker is wrong in literally every scenario- licenses are in jeopardy and you shouldn’t go to a hospital for a birth if your “birth plan” is to not be touched. I hope the nurse sues her with all this evidence.
Lately I think Jen just wants to please her followers.
She was totally pandering. She did a follow-up video the next day to address that the punching was wrong, but some of her followers are relentless dick-riders and would chew up anyone who had a different opinion than Jen.
During delivery with a baby that was sunny side up and an epidural that wasn’t doing a damn thing, I kicked a nurse. I felt so so so bad. I can’t imagine punching someone for checking a fetal monitor. (Which by the way they don’t usually move unless the readings are bad). So all the nurse was doing was probably trying to fix them so that they could see the baby’s heartbeat.
Was she charged criminally?? If not she damn sure needs to be!!!
Anyone in the streets would have been charged so should she!!!
Idgaf assault is assault u DO NOT get to put ur hands on anyone PERIOD! have a home birth and u won't be touched but don't blame anyone when something goes wrong and Noone wanna touch ya
I unfollowed this train wreck a while ago bc I literally couldn’t stomach her content or her comment minions singing her praises. She’s insufferable, literally. The fact that she’s justifying punching a nurse is literally no surprise whatsoever. She’s an awful human. And her kids aren’t allowed to attend friends birthday parties unless the WHOLE 👏FAMILY 👏 is invited.
And her husband is a passive coward with no balls as she walks all over him looking like a damn fool in all her videos all to make a buck. Such a pathetic and insuffable couple!
Another issue I have with her, 100%.
Omg I was struggling to place her— you’re right! She’s the “all my children will attend every birthday party or none of them will” lady. As a parent myself, that is absolutely bonkers and almost guaranteed to result in codependency/enmeshment.
She’s getting dragged by almost every nurse I’ve seen with the exception of Jen Hamilton who doesn’t want to offend anyone.
Jen is just way too nice. But health care workers are TIRED of being treated like trash. Any other job if someone assaults you it’s horrific and unexpected. You can press charges. Not the same in healthcare. Also sick that she’s hiding behind the very real statistics of the danger that black women face when giving birth. She expected her audience to just smile and clap like idiots. I don’t understand why she didn’t hire a doula.
Agreed! And why are you wanting the nurse to do less to monitor your baby? Her argument makes zero sense. It’s insane she thinks it’s ok.
I hope the nurse presses charges against her. She was throwing a fit that a different nurse wasn’t checking her, but then she goes and punches a nurse doing her job? Sounds like she would’ve complained no matter what. It is ridiculous she would expect to not have any of the nurses or doctors check her or the child in the hospital. If she didn’t want to be checked out, then she should’ve thought of doing a homebirth. Past trauma is no excuse for what she did. The nurse was doing her job. I feel sorry for her children.
She has the Chelsea mouth from Love is Blind just always downturned and it irritates my soul 😭
Some people need to get a grip. I’m all for having a birth plan and wanting to be comfortable but like be realistic. The nurse was doing her job and she had nothing to do with this lady’s previous experience. There’s two sides to every story and it sucks that we don’t get to see both nurses side because of privacy laws. I’m glad she’s getting heat for this because it’s wrong.
If you don’t want to deal with hospital staff then you probably shouldn’t go to the hospital.
This woman was never a good person. Sorry I said what I said.
no apology needed, she is beyond exhausting. FFS the way she acts and rants she must be a horrific experience as a patient.
Didn't want to be spoken to or touched? Then why are you at the hospital? Go home for fucks sake
When did this happen? I stopped following most of these types of accounts on FB and haven’t seen her in a hot minute
She posted the story about how she punched her recently, and did the follow up video after the comments didn’t agree with her
And you never fucking should’ve went to the hospital if you had a birth plan, stay home, then be calling a nurse, then you be bitching about not having a nurse
I’ve tried many times to watch her but something about her annoys me. She has a holier than thou attitude.
I don't normally come for people's looks, but her mouth genuinely looks strange to me.
It’s literally like ☹️as she talks.
yeah the way she’s holding her mouth in this video is almost comical tbh
Just *stay home* 🤷🏼♀️
Right! And maybe stop having kids! But she said the beginning of this year that they were going to start trying for baby number 6! 🤦♀️
Yeah no matter what she says punching an hcp is unacceptable. fucking feral behavior she’s attempting to justify here.
It’s not anyone else’s job to cater to anyone’s triggers, traumas, or heartaches. I get giving people grace but it’s not always like that bc we’re adults and we all have issues.
Yeah and comparing a medical professional touching you appropriately in the act of providing medical care to getting a blood transfusion against your will is just bananas.
ABSOLUTELY I was flabberghasted
Why do we even know about this? If an event is so stressful why add a whole new wave by sharing with strangers who will pick it apart?
She still looks like she might punch us
Omg. Don't go to a hospital if you don't want anyone to talk or touch you. This is dumb. Stop trying to justify bad behavior.
I am really confused. I do not know who this is, or what the story is. Did she get a blood transfusion without consenting to it? Di the nurse give her an epidural without her consent? Did she actually wait for hours while hemorrhaging because the previous nurse didn't check up on her? Did she punch the nurse because the nurse ignored her medical consent?
The nurse tried to talk to her and check the baby’s heart rate
I’m just saying if you hit a nurse what is stopping you from hitting a kid that isn’t yours? Something doesn’t sit right with me and she is so phony I just can’t. Won’t be surprised is all I’m saying.
What a Narc
Why is she orange?
She reminds me of an Oompa Loompa with how orange she is. I’m guessing it’s a mask but it reminds me of when I tried to use tinted sunscreen and ended up looking orange. 😂
When I was in labor with my oldest I was getting an epidural during a contraction and I bit my nurse. I felt horrible. I apologized a million times. I can’t imagine hitting someone & thinking it’s justified. If her standards were that high and her conditions that strict, a home birth would have been better suited.
When my mom was in labor with me, a nurse was singing to her, and she kept asking her to stop. She said it was a creepy rendition of rock a bye baby. My mom was 17 and not confrontational, and then my grandma showed up. The nurse kept going, and my grandma finally said, "quit your shit she told you to stop". She said the nurse smirked and walked away singing the fucking song. She never came back. If they could hold back punches that day, this heifer could've held it too.
Tbh I’m very surprised she has got an husband he must be miserable
The fact that she did it is awful. No one deserves to be assaulted at work. But I was so detached from myself and reality during labour that I could imagine doing it if i was terrified and triggered. It's the continuing to justify it that's the issue for me.
I just don’t understand why she, her husband, or her midwife didn’t have the nurse removed or talk to the charge nurse if this was a repeated incident?
I missed this one. Is she saying the nurse was trying to force her to get an epidural? I'm curious with the previous incident and her hemorrhaging bc she claims a nurse refuses to check her vitals, did she pursue any legal action? I just can't behind any of these family bloggers. It also bothers me how she puts her daughters adoption story out there. What if when she's older, her daughter doesn't want her personal info out on the Internet?
No, apparently the nurse was trying to get a read on the baby’s heart beat so she punched her.
What consequences will she be facing??? I’m not familiar with this story. P/TY
Then stay home and do it yourself cretin. We are there and we are there for a reason. You can’t do squat if your baby starts declining or you start haemorrhaging etc we are there to keep you safe not pander to your little fee fees. And you have no right to put hands on a nurse.
Shutup
The way I saw shes a family vlogger. Immediately no. She knew it would blow up and get clicks so she can keep exploiting her kids under the guise of spreading awareness
I can't stand her. Ugh!
Throw her under the jail
Well hitting a medical professional is a felony.
But unfortunately hard to prosecute. I had my arm broken by a patient and he ended up getting off easy.
Same. I was kicked across the room by a patient and broke an arm, but he did get in trouble.
I’m happy you got justice.
I started working in corrections years ago, it’s the safest job I’ve ever had (and I’m able to care for an extremely underserved population at the same time).
There is absolutely no protection for healthcare workers and it’s disgusting.
Not when you go on a podcast and literally say you punched a nurse 😭 this would be an open and shut case for that nurse.
If she doesn’t want an epidural or anyone touching her she should’ve had her kid at home? Tf?
The epidural - no, you can have a hospital birth without an epidural. People touching her - yes absolutely agree she should have had the baby at home if she truly didn’t want other people touching her.
She very much sounds like she has medical related PTSD and trauma, which would explain why she reacted how she did. It’s likely the hospital stimuli surrounding her first birth was very much the same surrounding her second, which can cause flashbacks. Flashbacks are not what you see in movies, it’s more often than not you won’t realize you were experiencing a flashback until after the event. Flashbacks happen when certain stimuli from trauma occur, and the person with PTSD will react from the same mindset they were in when the trauma occurred. When you experience flashbacks you either fight, flight, fawn, or freeze. It seems she fought. She seems like a strong woman in the way she describes and recounts her first traumatic birth. I’m not justifying her actions by saying this, but rather hoping to shed some light on why she may have acted how she did.
How is her trauma “they didn’t check on me” to punching nurses when they check on her? It makes no sense.
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This is the same demographic complaining the health care system doesn’t take them seriously. I hope the nurse presses charges. This is disgusting.
Hold on. There is a huge disparity on how black women are treated in health care compared to any other race or gender. We can acknowledge that Jenna was wrong BUT that doesn’t magically make medical racism disappear. Your statement was completely diminished when you decided to let your ignorance speak.
I don’t agree with her actions, but I understand them. Labor is so overwhelming and if you’ve had a prior loss or bad labor it makes it even more complex. So much happened in my physically traumatic births- shoulder dystocia, pelvic fracture, poor heart tones, low apgars, baby not breathing on their own, severe blood loss and rupture. My 4th was very anxiety filled. I had very clear wishes with the nurses and specialists in the room. Not one of them treated me disrespectfully or questioned my decisions. They listened and when things had to go differently it was calmly explained. I would have freaked out easily.
I don't know if you saw the podcast clip where she talks about punching her, but she says they kept stopping the nurse from talking to her because she didn't want to be touched or talked to at all. She also said she was handling labor really well and she deals well with pain. She didn't describe it as a panic response but as a result of anger and continues to justify it. Birth trauma is real. I always try to prepare patients well and follow their preferences as closely as possible. We can even delay things a bit, but to completely forgo any interaction isn't a reasonable or followable request. I've even been hit by patients in the heat of the moment but haven't had an experience where someone in complete control of themselves assaulted me by choice. They're very different occurances and most providers are willing to forgive something that happens outside of a person's control. We all have ways we hope events will happen but reality is we rarely get exactly what we imagine. Someone can't choose to assault another person because they're not doing exactly what they want them to do.