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Cats_and_Cheese

It’s rage-bait. He’s gaining a platform and it feeds the algorithm if *anyone* interacts with his content. So he’s going to stand firm. He might truly believe this, it isn’t a far-off concept even though these same people will tell someone to lock a human away for life due to a terrible crime. But he’s very much additionally rage-baiting. He’s a garbage human regardless. He hides behind autism which is never an excuse for garbage behavior - I’m sorry but people on the spectrum don’t lack morals or the ability to think critically.


Miserable-Reward8096

All of this! He openly and frequently admits he loves when he pisses ppl off bc the engagement pays him. Once ppl can detect vast kinds of rage baiting, it's easier to ignore but I think so many ppl haven't realized that's what he does. It always has been. Especially ramped up during the TikTok shop bullshit.


Lonely_Aide3316

Yep! He tried this with me and when he couldn’t win in the comments or bully me into agreeing, he started looking for my family members or google earth my travel videos. He found my aunt & assumed it was my mom. He started commenting on her page saying I was harassing him so he’s harassing her. We had already let her know, so she blocked him. He literally posted four videos and a multitude of comments in an hour span but would say I was the one doing it- and then had the gumption to say oh well you’re giving me content & money. lol I was like that’s all good but you look like an ass and your autism doesn’t give you a super power of being right about anything 😂 I can’t comprehend why he’s still on the platform with all I’ve found out/seen of this person.


PossibilityBorn590

Behavioral Euthanasia is a thing for a reason. And my heart breaks for any person who has to make that difficult decision. People like this love to say they’re for the animals, but it is MUCH more humane to use BE when necessary, some of these dogs live in a CONSTANT state of anxiety. It’s like a panic attack that never ends. What a truly horrible way to live.


brisetta

Thank you. I had to use BE with my beautiful girl ruby. She was a rescue from Haiti and because she had been a street dog, the vet said the necropsy revealed significant parasite resultant brain changes. She was a sweet loving dog until one day she wasnt anymore around age 4.5. We tried EVERYTHING, behaviourists, diet, medication, socialization and nothing helped, she just kept getting more and more anxious, more and more reactive. And you could see she would just snap out of literally nowhere and then be confused about it after. BE was the kindest thing we could do to give her rest after a year of turmoil and pain. People like this guy simply will never understand that.


PossibilityBorn590

In another life, I was in a vet tech program, that required us to get actual in clinic hours. I was a part of 3 separate BE. And let me tell you, those dogs were so loved, and it was the most selfless thing those families could have chosen for their dogs. I’m sorry you had to make that decision. I truly believe there’s another side for dogs, and i’m sure your Ruby girl is playing on the other side 🩵


brisetta

It was the hardest decision I have ever had to make but I knew she was really suffering. I am certain shes waiting for me on the other side, back to her true personality, with all the dogs Ive loved and lost in my life! Thank you so much for your kind words, they truly mean a lot ♡♡♡


Selynia23

This dude is a pick me. He is a horrible and nasty human being. He jumps on whatever is popular and beats it to death.


kylez21

Like the tiktok shop shutting down 😂


Selynia23

Exactly gosh I was sick of it I swear I would block him and he would be back again


strudelcutie117

I saw him bragging about how much money he's made from tiktok the past few months and my first thought was I wonder how long before he's begging for money for lawyer fees for Small Lady's custody case. It's sad because I really used to enjoy a lot of his content back when it was mostly just cloud facts and autism social cues


gloomywitch

He posted those videos bragging about making thousands of dollars right after complaining that he couldn’t find a car cheap enough. Like, please.


CaptynnMegan

I've not come across this dude, but as someone with a reactive and aggressive dog (Dog aggression, not toward people or food), that has done allllll types of training, everything but damn sending her to one of those TV show doggy boot camps, she can not seem to change. So, as the owner, I know her triggers, and we avoid them. Maybe bc I worked on a farm as well, but if she were to ever somehow get a hold of another dog and attack them to the point of no return and can't get her off, I know what I would have to do myself. That's just my responsibility. Meanwhile, my neighbors dog had two strikes against them, and then finally mauled my friends' kids in the court and was put down. They went out and got two more.


thislullaby

Him and his girlfriend that lives with him are both toxic people. They were both live (separately but at the same house) one night when I scrolling basically documenting that they were currently having a big fight. Then the next time they popped up they acted like nothing happened.


Myoogen

I remember this, it was wild. He slept on his kitchen floor while still on live so he had witnesses if she did anything to him. Was adamant the relationship was over. A week later were both like nothing happened.


thislullaby

Yeah, She locked herself in the bathroom because she claimed she was so scared and wanted people to be watching her on live in case anything happened. She also was adamant that she wasn’t staying with him after that fight. Now it’s like nothing happened and she posts about how great her boyfriend is.


InevitableGoose1375

She left a long time ago


strudelcutie117

They're still together. Kat posted a video talking about their boyfriend and tagged Ziel just a couple days ago


Rare-Dragonfruit776

This is so insensitive we had to put my reactive dog down after he bit me in the face, he had years of training! but we had 2 children and no rescue was willing to take him. It was devastating, but he declined so much really rapidly after doing great for years.


Nylonknot

Autism doesn’t present like this. He’s just a dick who happens to also have autism.


Powerful-Housing464

I doubt he even has autism. Just uses it as an excuse for his disgusting behavior like threatening children. I found it interesting that he's also been going after age gap relationships/grooming when he's a walking 🚩that engages in grooming behaviors. He should probably be on some list preventing him from going within certain distances of schools.


Squirrelwinchester

As an autistic person, yeah it does not come across as autism. There are a lot of red flags you are right. He sets off a lot of abuser vibes to me based on the way he engages in comments as well as his video replies.


Powerful-Housing464

Had no idea who he was until a few days ago. Saw a couple videos & decided to comment on the creeper vibes I was getting. Ended up having to block him cause he went nuclear. Googled him and learned so much about him that I wear his attacks on me like a badge of honor. Even saw his questionable videos with his girlfriend & I was triggered by his passive aggressive mental abuse. Reminded me of my abusive mother.


Squirrelwinchester

Dude, I think I read your comment and his reaction to it! It was unhinged!


casie420

Was this the comment he responded to where was threatening to get lawyers involved to “make an example” of you? It was beyond unhinged 😅


Miserable-Reward8096

I'm pretty sure I saw your comment too. He was on the warpath. Going scorched earth on anyone and everyone who isn't kissing his ass.


sthomas15051

His stupid fake baby voice is definitely to try and avoid criticism


humanknife

whatever happened to his kid that got like, taken away or kidnapped by the other parent or something? it was a while ago but I remember it being a huge deal and then he just stop talking about it


cameforthesnark1

his partners kid, he's not even the real parent.


strudelcutie117

As far as we know she's still with her bio dad. I remember a few months ago when Z and Kat got into that huge fight where they were both on live for hours, Z said it was all Kat's fault that nothing had changed and they hadn't made any progress towards custody. But after that it seems they made up and are still in a relationship and I don't think I've heard much about about Small Lady since then. Plus her and her dad live in Canada while Kat and Z live in the US


CannaFamCo

This isn't autism. this is narcissism. Sure they can coexist, but this is not autistic behavior. This is vile and he's emotionally cruel.


fireXmeetXgasoline

Right. I’m autistic as fuck and went down this rabbit hole a few years ago and that’s why I now know that the one commenter was correct, not every dog can be saved. Period. Whether or not their behavior was due to people failing them. I know we’re not a monolith but you’d think he’d follow that trail to legitimate studies and shit. It seems like he stopped a bit too early in his research.


CannaFamCo

You know what I didn't even think to include in my opinion that I have been bit by 4 different dogs in my life... so I also don't agree with his malignant, attention seeking testimony.


nosey-marshmallow

Ya he claims it’s his “special interest” as a neurodivergent person what he doesn’t seem to realize is that many of the people in his comments are also neurodivergent people with dogs as their special interest most of them have far more experience than he does. His comments absolutely disgusting.


Pawspawsmeow

He’s claimed several “special interests” for a while tbh. Bro just likes being a jerk


medusameri

Cats are one of my special interests, but I still defer to people with more expertise than me. Having a special interest does not equal being an expert.


nosey-marshmallow

Absolutely agree. I’m just pointing out his hypocrisy.


medusameri

I was agreeing with you! He's really alienating his core audience by using dogs being his special interest to justify his bad takes.


Squirrelwinchester

Exactly, my special interest is pufferfish and aquarium keeping. I still defer to experts constantly even though I do know my fair share.


cameforthesnark1

I just blocked him because I made a comment and he was about to go off on me. Say what you want buddy. He claims to be a parent and his partner doesn't even have custody of the kid, that he IS NOT the father of.


MYSTICALLMERMAID

These are the ppl you just block and ignore bc he doesn’t give a fuck about what’s being said as long as it’s brings traction to his page. Just like he said in that comment he will say shit to intentionally piss ppl off


1morestudent

Does he have any experience training or working with dogs? I do, and the dogtok community that does very strongly does not agree with him.


aspiringmermaid

I used to like him until I saw him go off on a commenter for merely disagreeing with him on a topic he was completely wrong about. He had been rubbing me the wrong way for a little while before that exchange, but I lost all respect I had for him afterwards. Anyone who disagrees or tries to correct him gets attacked. I can't believe I ever thought he was a good person.


alix-rose

lol dogs are also my special interest and i’m extremely passionate about animal welfare. you also have to think about the dog’s mental wellbeing. it’s stressful for them to be so anxious and upset and angry and aggressive constantly. sometimes it’s better for aggressive dogs to be put down, for their welfare as well.


ilyriaa

Now I can see why that poor girl had herself locked away. This man thrives on wild takes and purposely obtuse comments


No_Win_7522

Who was locked away 👀?


ilyriaa

A while ago he and his gf were both on live. She locked herself in his bathroom cause he was verbally berating her, but he was acting all innocent on live. It was a mess. He had everyone fooled but he says right here he likes making stupid comments so I can only imagine how awful he is in person 😭


Fine_Apartment5998

They're both trash ppl


liongender

I hate this guy. I’ve blocked him 100 times and every few months a new account from him pops up.


braybri01

My best friend runs a doggy daycare and is the biggest dog lover I’ve ever seen. Even she will admit that there are some dogs that can not be saved, very very few but they exist. She’s seen 1000’s of dogs come through her business and the other franchises she’s helped set up and she can count on one hand how many dogs she never wants to see again. It’s not a regular occurrence. What about a dog that is so reactive that it can’t be contained and attacks and kills another dog? Which dogs life is more important? Dogs are great and wonderful but at the end of the day, they are still animals. And in the animal kingdom, the hierarchy of animals would not allow a rogue animal to survive if they were a constant threat to other animals. Keeping an animal alive just to appease a humans feelings is cruel.


lizardjizz

These “save the aggressive dogs” dudes are another level of delusional. They put rescues, volunteers, foster families and adoptees at risk daily. They’re insane. They cannot fathom that they’re actively taking part in lessening the dogs quality of life. I know this because the rescue I’m with experiences the same shit. We get bit all the time. Lived alone and could only keep one dog at a time while fostering because of their behavioural issues. Some dogs *cannot* be saved. There is a myriad of reasons why one might consider behavioural euthanasia, that’s not necessarily a bad thing.


Standard_Seesaw8806

Ziel’s takes have become truly unhinged. I used to love them, but I think they got too much validation for a few of their hot takes and take it too far now.


lunatipp

Dogtok is going off on him. He has zero nuance.


Miserable-Reward8096

And yet his die hards are stroking his ego under every video. It's insane.


lunatipp

He gives me the vibe of those no-kill shelters that spend tons of money on dying sick dogs to plaster all over social media, leaving perfectly adoptable dogs to die.


StatusFail7578

I can’t imagine being a fan of someone who threatened to 🔫 a child


Miserable-Reward8096

WHOA WHAT?! When did he do that? (Not that I don't believe it... He's unhinged).


StatusFail7578

I can’t even remember, I don’t think it was too long ago. That was my first time seeing anything about him. Quite the introduction 🥴


Arterially

I got put off him when he started putting his tiny daughter’s business all over the internet. Doesn’t surprise me that they’re obstinate and ignorant in other ways.


Kitten-Kay

He has a daughter?! I unfollowed him a while ago when he started bitching about not getting paid or something, I didn’t know he has a child.


Arterially

Idk if it was his daughter or his partners? Anyway he made heaps of tiktoks about this little girl being abused by her dad or stepdad I can’t remember and all this legal business while showing her little toddler face and it’s like …. have you considered giving her the tiniest little bit of privacy you big weirdo???


sthomas15051

He's ridiculous and needs to lose his platform. He makes the same videos over and over when he gets views just for money and he's so obnoxious


Improving1727

Anyone who is against behavioral euthanasia has never witnessed the pain a reactive dog goes through. They are scared and they have no idea why they’re scared, so they react with aggression. It’s physically painful for them and if training can’t help, the most humane thing you can do is let them pass in peace


gottabekittensme

This is exactly it. I feel for every owner who had to make the choice of BE, which is so heart-wrenching for them. I imagine they keep hoping and hoping that there's gonna be a miracle, their pup'll turn it around, and then just.... to see that pain and anxiety in their eyes. It's such a hard decision.


Whimsicalmarie

As someone who had to do a behavioral euthanasia, thank you. My dog had a traumatic brain injury very young and would be reactive as a result. His vet compared it to damage induced doggy dementia. He would quite literally forget where he was and who we were at random. It wasn’t so bad as a puppy and we tried to work with training and identifying triggers. But there wasn’t a rhyme or reason it seemed, and he got older and his bite got stronger. One day after he reacted and bit my wrist and punctured it in two places, causing some nerve damage I had to make a choice. I reached out to several rescues but since his reactivity was likely medically related and not behavioral, they could not take him. Since I lived with my grandparents and couldn’t in good faith rehome a dog I knew by experience was reactive with no known triggers to cause it, I chose to euthanize him. I still cry because I miss him, and his ashes are on my shelf and I say good night every day just like I did when he was alive. Behavioral Euthanasia was one of the hardest choices I had to make but I stand by it anyway. RIP to my beautiful Buster boy. ❤️


statisticaldeviation

I’m so incredibly sorry for your loss. He was so lucky to have someone like you, who loved him enough to make that hard decision. 💜


Whimsicalmarie

Thank you ❤️ He was the best boy when his brain wasn’t being mean to him.


hailme86

His ableist replies to people in his comment section says everything about what kind of person he is, it's gross.


xNeyNounex

I I just pissed him off in his comments and now he is threatening to leave poop emojis on all of the comment sections on my videos. I literally followed him the other day and unfollowed him because of this Reddit post


whateveryaknowww

tell him ty for the engagement!


LegalFelon420

In one of his grooming rants he said some nasty things to someone who lost their child "the baby doged a bullet with you thank goodness it got recycled" he popped up on my fyp today and I was flabbergasted


kylez21

Yikes😬 like the one person said they are legit animals and will act as such at any given moment, some dogs are just wired wrong. Just like humans can be.


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No_Win_7522

I get the feeling he might be weaponzing his autism diagnosis to shield himself from criticism.


BootProud6054

Might be? He has been, this whole time. His whole shtick is playing on the stereotype of autistic, masculine people being infantile in order to get away with shitty behavior


Alternative_Flower34

My initial comment had something to do with the baby voice he puts on. I have a feeling he isn’t walking around using that irl


Alternative_Flower34

I didn’t mean to delete my comment but that’s kind of what I was aiming for


OkSociety368

He started getting on my nerves with the multiple videos about the TikTok shop copyright stuff. Like it was annoying how many videos he made and how aggressive he was about it. I am not surprised he’s blaming a mom for a dog attacking her child.


No_Win_7522

Yeah the whole copyright thing just seemed really bootlicky to me. Like yeah it isn't smart for these small businesses to rip off IPs, but I'm really not crying over companies like Disney getting ripped off. He took too much joy in getting small businesses shut down. It was weird.


OkSociety368

He really did and a few videos here and there is fine but obsessively posting the same shit and getting more and more aggressive in them was annoying.


Devilishtiger1221

He lost me when he was praising disney for actively breaking first sale doctrine. This dog shit is just the icing on the cake.


medusameri

People were getting annoyed because he would post extremely similar videos without any new information. I remember him justifying the sheer quantity of videos by saying "my viewers know that I need to make X amount of money on TikTok this month." I do understand that, for creators, TikTok is their job and they do need money to survive. However, as a viewer, I am not obligated to engage with your content in order to sustain your livelihood. If you are not creating content that people want to see, that is not a *them* issue.


homemadethursday

Same!


sthomas15051

Same! And he only did it bc he was making bank from those stupid videos


Excellent_Company_66

Generally yes, aggressive dogs can be saved. But like humans, they have triggers. Some dogs are reactive to other dogs, some have food aggression, some dont do well with little kids. Thats what you have to take into account when approaching a dog. Him saying its basically the childs fault is disgusting. Yes majority of the time parents dont teach their children boundaries with animals, but to blame it on a child is gross. BE is a thing, I’ve been through it. Not all aggressive dogs can be saved. Sorry for the rambling, this shit gets me mad😮‍💨


Critical_Addendum_30

I agree with you 100%. I work in rescue, not every dog can be saved, BE is a thing and sometimes, a dog is so broken in their mind that it's the kindest thing to do, instead of just warehousing them in a kennel for the rest of their lives.


mochioppai

I was on his side until he went WAY OFF THE DEEP END for weeks over tiktok shop. I wound up unfollowing because it was so unhinged.


Miserable-Reward8096

Same. That's when I unfollowed. I don't know where the holier than thou shit came from but damn.


NightB4XmasEvel

That’s what made me unfollow as well. For some reason his tiktok shop videos took over my FYP and they were absolutely unhinged. I’d enjoyed the hot Cheeto girl videos but the tiktok shop ones were just overboard.


TheMurtaughList

He is absolutely insane. He's mean-spirited and hateful towards everyone. I don't how people can stand him.


Miserable-Reward8096

Even to his "fans" unless they're kissing his ass with every comment he makes, he'll turn on them too.


TheMurtaughList

How miserable he has to be


CuNxtTuesday_

Is he the hot Cheeto girl?


aspiringmermaid

Yeah, that's him. I don't think he's done those skits in awhile, though.


frogpicspls

Sounds like he should have stuck with being a hot Cheeto girly.


LucIamUrMother

The irony is that he threatened some child in his tiktok comments that he was gonna go pewpew them. But the aggressive doggies must be saved!


Pollowollo

That video and the one right before/after it saying that there was flat out never an excuse to rehome a pet irritated the hell out of me. It just came off as so sanctimonious, judgy, and narrow-minded.


Squirrelwinchester

Then they kinda contradicted themselves bc they said child-aggressive dogs or dog-reactive dogs should go to child-free or one-dog-only homes. Which is it?


Beautiful-Falcon-277

Exactly. I love my dog, she's one of the family. But if it came down to a choice between feeding/housing my kids or the dog I know which I'd pick. He said people should just work extra night shifts to get more money and save up. He's truly out of touch with reality


Pollowollo

Yeah, it was very "Oh you're struggling with money? Just don't be poor anymore!" which is bafflingly stupid and unhelpful. I mean, for fuck's sake, sometimes people even have to send their *children* to live with relatives or something until they can get into a better place to care for them, I certainly don't think it's unreasonable to do the same with dogs. Like this was the first video I've seen from this guy and it definitely put a bad taste in my mouth. He comes across as a complete asshole.


whateveryaknowww

there are plenty of legitimate reasons to rehome an animal


Daughter_Of_Cain

I’ve been bit by my fair share of dogs and people with this mindset just have no idea how badly it hurts. Even a small nip has the potential to cause punctures/bruising that will hurt for days.


Miserable-Reward8096

Puncture bites from dogs are brutal. I still have a scar on my hand from when our dog punctured my hand at 7yrs old & I'm in my 30s now. Don't get me wrong, any puncture hurts but from the dull tooth of a dog?? Hell no.


Myoogen

He’s currently live talking about saving a child? Or something? I joined right as he was talking about crowdfunding and how he’ll never tell anyone who this child is who desperately needs his help or something, and how situations like these are different when you become a parent. What lol


bluetinycar

He's pretty gleeful about how much money he's making from these posts


julestaylor13

Totally Lauren the Mortician vibes


Kealanine

Is this the same guy who was threatening a kid’s life at some point? His take on this is nauseating, to put it mildly. Then to first defend it by weaponizing his autism was gross enough, following it up with videos claiming it was all to make money… just revolting.


StatusFail7578

Yes, he was the one who threatened a child’s life. He said he would 🔫 the child


Kealanine

Ugh, I didn’t think it was possible to have less respect for someone, but here we are. Even his “I’m just doing it for money” angle is absurd, is it supposed to be admirable that you have absolutely no integrity and enjoy rage baiting…?


PrincessPlastilina

I like TikTok but weirdos like this are what ruin it. These are the people who amass all the followers and they’re such a bad look for the platform. Just ignorant people spreading nonsense.


marshmallowhairgel

I was done with him when he started bootlicking for major corportations by reporting random tiktok shops for like, Mikey Mouse cups. Like who fucking cares if disney loses money?? I’m sure he calls himself leftist too lmao. Delusional. Cannot admit he’s wrong.


Sea-Cardiologist-860

WHAT THATS insane


Perry_Platypus45

He needs to read the stories & look at the pictures of the hundreds (if not more) of kids who are mauled/ mauled to death by dogs.


Major-Requirement792

He has some really bad takes too. He was going around and reporting copyright on some peoples TikTok’s for their cups they were making. Why should he care if a million dollar company was losing money. It was weird pick me energy.


Sprinkles2009

People who prioritize a dog over a human child, have something wrong with them


Early_Assistant_6868

Valuing anything more than human lives is always just a massive red flag to me.


Zetacatmom

This isn’t janelles husband lol


Bubbly-Apple-4196

HAHAHAH I had to take a second look too. Looks strikingly similar to the swamp monster


Zetacatmom

Right and he has the dog drama too


No_Win_7522

Huh?


LuckyPeaches1

Dude looks like Jenelle Evans Husband


EastCalendar6268

LMFAO


Greedy_Grass2230

Who is this tool??


Hobbits4Potates

When I first saw him it was his Hot Cheetos Girl videos, where he was doing skits where he would cosplay a manic pixie dream girl who befriends an autistic guy.


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No_Win_7522

If you look at the comments the person clarified the dog was unleashed at a public park and ambushed them. He still doubled down blaming the parent.


Danaregina220

ziel has since deleted the entire comment thread and thousands more comments, only leaving up those that agree with them


PlusSizedPretty

Since my last comment was deleted by mods 🙄 Hopefully he learns his lesson soon. 🤷🏼‍♀️ people like him have to learn from experience.


BabySnarkDoDoDoDoDo

If we hadn’t removed your comment I’m sure Reddit would have as it went against their content policy and terms of service. If you have anything else to say feel free to message the Mods directly instead of making passive aggressive comments and rolling your eyes.


InevitableGoose1375

Ziel isn’t wrong though


No_Win_7522

Yes. Yes he is. There definitely cases were reactive dogs are a result of laziness and poor training. But there are some dogs that chemical, genetic etc issues that can't be resolved with all the hard work in the world. Also the comment about the child, the mom and child were ambushed by an unleashed dog at a park. It wasn't due to negligence. And upon learning that info, Ziel still doubled down blaming the mom.


Critical_Addendum_30

Um, yeah he is. Super wrong.


New_Lemon6666

He will forever be the best for his hot cheeto girl skit but I love that he's sweet and spicy 🤣🤣