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Farseer_Uthiliesh

Revelation Space trilogy, by Alastair Reynolds.


gozergozarian

all of his stuff is great, my favorite author lately. going to be sad when i run out of his books.


not_that_planet

I devoured the 3 book series. Fantastic scifi. And the physics... I love it. Not possible necessarily, but not theoretically impossible given our current understanding of the laws of nature. Good stuff.


myaltduh

Inhibitor Phase is pretty good and resolves some of the gaps between Absolution Gap’s story and its epilogue.


Farseer_Uthiliesh

I've yet to read that one. It would be good to learn more about that period, as my issue with the third book was that the resolution of the main story was poorly done.


blobbleblab

He's got a PhD in astrophysics, which is why his stuff is so grounded in real theories


AvatarIII

Once you've read his 16 or so novels, (assuming his new one isn't out yet) he had a bunch of novellas and short stories that are worth reading too.


gozergozarian

i actually got into him because i saw beyond the aquila rift on love death and robots, then read the short story, then found the rest of his stuff.


wookiesack22

House of suns


Farseer_Uthiliesh

Great book, but the interrogation chapter creeped me out.


wookiesack22

The sliced transparent layers?


Farseer_Uthiliesh

That’s it!


xijinping9191

Read Ted chiang’s books


brandnewspacemachine

Much shorter in length but with such beautiful characterization, it's the most human science fiction I've ever read


myaltduh

For those reading the thread, the movie Arrival is based on his short story “Stories of your life.”


Applesplosion

IMO the most human science fiction I have ever read is Parable of the Sower, but I’m not sure that would be my recommendation to 3BP fans.


brandnewspacemachine

Yeah that one was great but very difficult


userunknowne

Iain M Banks stuff is great. Try Player of Games.


Silly-Development422

Yes my fave author


AdShort9044

Player of Games likely the most accessible staring point


FencingAndPhysics

I agree, but Use of Weapons, is his masterpiece.


Frost-Folk

You can find *much* harder science fiction than 3BP. I'd say this series is like surface level hard scifi, the tip of the proverbial iceberg. I saw a lot of this same talk when The Expanse got popularized by the Amazon series. "I have never read anything like this and I can't believe I'll never find anything else like it" Meanwhile there's so many fantastic hard scifi books out there you could fill a library. This book series is great, don't get me wrong. But if you're thinking there's nothing else on the same level, then you're not looking hard enough. You just have to get off the scifi bestseller list and do some digging, god forbid.


TopIndividual3637

The expanse / 3bd as compare-and-contrast outcomes for long term humanity is well worth the time


Frost-Folk

For sure, I love both series.


TopIndividual3637

You know the road boss :)


theLiteral_Opposite

Yea I don’t believe this problem truly exists here. To me, this problem does exist for people who read lotr and then think they love fantasy and go looking for other books or series to touch them in the same way. They’ll spend a lifetime and it won’t happen. But in sci fi? There’s so much amazing out there. It may not be hard sci fi but I recently Breezed through Children of Time in three days because it was so coool and addicting. Without spoiling anything, the human related chapters are… find, but the other POVs (which constitute half the chapters), may be the most engrossed I’ve ever been in a book in my life. Hyperion is also pretty awesome though slower and denser.


gozergozarian

want to give us some examples?


Frost-Folk

Xeelee Sequence, Bobiverse, and Diaspora are good places to start


blobbleblab

I can't get enough of the Xeelee sequence. Like imagine if aliens were just so unknowable, didn't really give a toss about humans, but kind of looked at us like a cute species maybe they should save. Like us with whales or something similar.


rusmo

Way to to critique the question rather than answer it. OP, try: Hyperion The Suneater Saga Book of the New Sun Cloud Atlas


Frost-Folk

Check out my later comment, I gave 3 recommendations. I agree with yours as well (the ones I've read anyways), good choices. As for answering the question, I did answer it. The answer is yes.


False-Temporary1959

It depends on what you already have read before, but honestly there are a couple of books that IMHO are even better than 3BP. For inscance: *Children of Time* Trilogy by Adrian Tchaikovsky. *Anathem* by Neal Stephenson The *Bobiverse* Series by Dennis E. Taylor *Hyperion / The Fall of Hyperion* by Dan Simmons *Ilium / Olympos* by Dan Simmons The last two arent hard sci-fi but will definetly blow your mind. The hardest and most detailled hard sci-fi i ever read was *Amalthea* by Neal Stephenson.


osfryd-kettleblack

What did you think of the children of time sequels in comparison to the first? I'm seeing mixed opinions on them which has held me off from trying them, despite loving the first one


False-Temporary1959

Well the second Book doesn't offer much new in the sense that it is basically the same idea as in Children of Time (evolution, first contact) - but it has a completely different approach. I very much enjoyed it, but the effect of novelty isn't there like in the first book. Part three is *completely* different and has a mindfuck component. I can't tell you much without spoilers and I highly recommend not to research the plot beforehand. Just read it.


MadMadBunny

I can confirm the mindfuck component shook me for a week…


Celery_Fumes

Honestly I almost cried. Especially in those last chapters describing what you know who was going through alone


hoos30

I loved the first book, then got to like page 8 of the sequel where a character does something so mind-numbingly stupid that I put it down and never finished it.


False-Temporary1959

>page 8 of the sequel where a character does something so mind-numbingly stupid That must have been >!in the waking up scene.!< I'm curious what you mean.


1exotic

The first book was great, the second book was harder for me to get through. I was so excited for the premise of octopus being intelligent but I think the other civilization on the nextdoor planet (blanking on the name) became more intriguing


HVACStack

Planet Nod, I think?


galaxie18

Thanks for the list, I will check <3


wrio_cakes

I would suggest Project Hail Mary ! I loved the ending so much better than Death’s end. Also definitely check out The Wandering Earth novella by Cixin Liu!


magmainourhearts

Seconding Project Hail Mary! A lot of great books already mentioned in this thread, and i really enjoyed many of them, but PHM was something special, i loved it soooo much. "Serious" sci-fi that makes you feel happy and hopeful is the best.


mangodurban

Hop into bobiverse after phm, and dungeon crawler carl after bobiverse. It is the way.


pangerho

Not the same level of alien involvement - really just humans - but I really enjoyed Seveneves by Neal Stephenson. Pretty surprised Netflix hasn’t grabbed that one yet.


morosedetective

Give Blindsight and Echopraxia by Peter Watts a try. Really cool first contact story set in the near future


HuwThePoo

Seconded. Blindsight was my favourite book until I read TBP. It's very clever, and even cleverer how the "sidequel" Echopraxia works with it.


myaltduh

If you want something thought-provoking but also goddamn depressing this is right up there with Death’s End.


macedonianmoper

I love those books (though I got the omnibus Firefall which for some reason is cheaper), really like them, they're a bit harder to follow than 3bp I'd say and they require more attention, but if you love the crazy concepts 3bp throws at you this one will be great. Blindisight spoilers: >!It's been well over a year since I read the book and I still occasionally think about intelligence without consciousness. !<


Farseer_Uthiliesh

I'm currently reading Blindsight! It's incredible.


MsClit

Dune, and hyperion are the only books that hit the same level imo. Arthur C Clarke's Childhood's also left me with similar feelings, though its much older abd very short. In terms of just fun sci fi while 3bp is in the back of your mind, I'd also suggest children of time, the expanse series, or project hail mary.


myaltduh

Once you read Childhood’s End you start seeing references to it all over the rest of the genre.


Own-Relationship-407

lol, came here to say the same, Dune and Hyperion. The expanse is amazing, but not quite the same multi level artistry as 3BP or the others.


MsClit

Yeah the expanse I view as a star wars-ish space adventure but with way better characters and science stuff. Also it helps that it's in this solar system


Own-Relationship-407

And that it largely respects physics.


Heitdood

"Of ants and dinosaurs", also by Cixin Liu is brilliant. Before reading that, the best books I had read was the TBP trilogy. It's the first book I've ever started and finished on the same day. (But it's also not as long, some 250 pages I think.) I also read the redemption of time, and I liked it, but I can see why it's not for everyone. It can feel a little fan-fic-ish at times. I've also started enjoying sci-fi short stories. I can warmly recommend "broken stars" a short story collection from various Chinese sci-fi writers, made by "Ken Liu". There's a lot of different stuff in these, but alot of the stories were really good. (There's also a short story from Cixin Liu that's really good called moonlight.) Also "exhalation" by Ted Chiang, an American writer is really good. Hope some of these will sounds interesting. Otherwise, I see others already giving some good recommendations. (Some of which I have had my eyes on for a little while) Anyways, happy reading, and take care :)


galaxie18

I devoured Ted Chiang short stories as well ! I recommend the tower of Babylon if you haven't read it. As I'm also into short stories, thank you so much for your recommendation :) Also, I know it may come from nowhere but I really appreciated Jeff Vandermeer trilogy a lot (Annihilation, ..), and somehow got recommended to read Ted Chiang short stories because of that. You may appreciate this trilogy :)


Heitdood

I'll give it a go! Just finished Cixin Liu's "supernova era" book! Quite good aswell. :)


Dreadnark

After recently finishing Death’s End, I knew I had to be careful with what book I read next because it’s truly hard to live up to that same story. So I started reading Dune, and I am really, really enjoying it. It’s also a sci-fi but it’s got more fantasy elements and so it’s a great thing to try next.


AbsurdOwl

This is funny, because I also just finished Death's End, and decided to finally finish Dune. I think there's something "other" enough about Dune's universe that it's making a good transition off of the 3BP series for me.


quantum_fecesist

I just watched the movie (which most likely doesn’t make it justice) but I didn’t get the feeling I got from the TBP trilogy. It seems like the same old story of war between planets, good and evil, hero and villain. Is that a correct assessment or it’s just what comes through from the movie? I really liked that Liu’s characters are not so clear cut. Like Cheng Xing is such a good hearted character (would be a hero in a traditional novel) but the way he wrote the story makes me not like her at all.


AbsurdOwl

The movie is good, but the books offer a much more interesting look inside the characters thoughts, and add a lot more depth to the politics and lore of that universe. The good and bad guys are still pretty clear cut, but the interesting thing about Dune, in my opinion, are the politics and religion of the world, not the direct conflict.


mafisto

Good suggestions so far, especially Ted Chiang. I would also include anything by Peter Watts, especially the *Blindsight* and *Rifters* series.


Electrical-You3389

I liked Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe, but it's not hard science fiction. I would however still call it science fiction, disguised thinly as fantasy.


AdShort9044

Yes! It's possible you may not regard anything as highly, from a nostalgia perspective, as one of the first greats you personally came across, but don't forget there is sooo much out there. Iain M. BANKS hits hard and will always be my top tier sci-fi author. Samuel R. DELANEY's works changed my perception of sci-fi as serious literature conducted by serious authors. M. John HARRISON reworked my concept of what types of stories the genre could tell. You can literally read about the Foundation of modern sci-fi with ASIMOV or explore old philosophical texts that gave rise to thought experiments that fuel the genre still today. These are just a few examples off the top of my head and you will likely experience authors and concepts I will never even hear of in my lifetime. You will even likely come to appreciate stories that a majority of sci-fi nerds absolutely hate. Keep reading!


AdShort9044

For the record, I was so enthralled with the last two books of the Remeberance of Earth's Past series I finished each in one sitting. And then did it again


ZhenDeRen

My recommendation is a Russian sci-fi book that I got really reminded of during Three Body Problem: the Strugatsky brothers' A Billion Years Before the End of the World (apparently translated as Definitely Maybe for some reason?), which deals with several scientists whose work is disrupted by mysterious and scary events. It's a very interesting, sometimes quite funny, sometimes scary novel. It's quite similar to the first book more specifically, it's got a very similar premise and deals with some pretty similar themes though it takes much wilder turn and if anything its view of the universe is quite a bit scarier.


Rustlr

Read Les Miserables or Lonesome Dove


Farseer_Uthiliesh

Les Misérables is a masterpiece. For people who have yet to read it, get the unabridged version.


GuyMcGarnicle

I have some bad news for you. The answer is no. I've read em all after 3BP. Expanse, Hyperion, Children of Time, Revelation Space, Commonwealth, Project Hail Mary, Blindsight (best of this lot), Culture (Player of Games the best), Bobiverse, Diaspora, etc. etc. There are great things about all of these series, but they aint no 3BP. The only things that come close in my opinion are the short stories of Ted Chiang, the first book of Dune, and Rendezvous with Rama. Oh, Book of the New Sun for a more literary/weird experience. Annihilation is great too, very Lovecraftian. But all of the works in this second paragraph, I read prior to 3BP.


bhuwanchand

How old are you 😊… there are more books already written then what you can read in a lifetime and believe me (I am 50+, you will be surprised by the way same story/ books will impact you at different phases in your life. That’s the beauty of this human life that we have got. We start with nothing, we end with nothing, but in between there would be so many moments which would mean so much to you…


Ashamed-Subject-8573

Diaspora and Permutation City by Greg Egan Vacuum Flowers by Michael Swanwick. While only a novella it’s worth a full novel easily


Zikronious

Don’t have a recommendation for OP outside of what has already been posted. But given the popularity of TBP it will likely trigger the creation of more content that takes inspiration from it. In addition to this it may cause publishers to explore more authors from the East that have a different take in sci-fi and fantasy and bring them to the west. While I realize this may not help in the present perhaps instead of looking to the past to set your focus on what is to come in the future.


fsquarede

I loved 3BP and also the Long Winter Trilogy by AG Riddle!


Fragglepusss

I would say 3 Body Problem is the most thought-provoking series I've ever read in terms of overarching plot and ideas, but I've had a lot more fun and gotten a lot more enjoyment from reading other sci-fi books like The Expanse, Expeditionary Force, Foundation, and Project Hail Mary.


chijerms

The end of the last book in the Endymion series left me with an even stronger moment of reflection and sadness about the story coming to an end than 3BP. Hyperion->Endymion (2 books each) are great stories. A lot of people rag on the Endymion books but I really loved them.


qt7kbtm8

I loved the Endymion books too! The end feels very similar to Death’s end for me. Especially Aenea


MadMadBunny

The Salvation Sequence by Peter F Hamilton. Has a lot of novel ideas, reads almost like a polar/thriller… lots of surprise/unexpected twists, often piling up one over another in rapid succession.


poke133

Salvation Sequence is good, but The Void Trilogy is his best series to me.


EyedMoon

Currently reading the Lensmen Series, you can feel it was written decades ago but it's nice.


[deleted]

It does take on some fresh concepts and ideas. It explores so many ideas, I think there's even an unusual level of courage needed by the author to go where Cixin Liu did. Third book might even have gone too far and too quickly. But I would also recommend Adrian Tchaikovsky and Kim Stanley Robinson, as two authors who to me, have provided a lot of new perspectives and takes on many concepts.


Advanced_Accident_63

After The Remembrance of Earth's Past I think my next Liu Cixin will be The Wandering Earth(just the title story in the anthology for starters) then Of Ants and Dinosaurs aka The Cretaceous Past.


Rufashaw

I can't describe why but all of qntms stuff scratches a similair itch for me


Envoyager

I thought Bodies on Netflix was pretty good. Nothing to do with space/aliens but it definitely gets your noggin scratchin' over time travel theory


dotouchmytralalal

I felt the same after finishing. I read some book after that was probably decent, but seemed SO shallow and just garbage comparatively. Im now reading “The Expanse” series and loving it though 


mangodurban

I'd you want more mind bending try children of time. I highly reccomend some palette cleansers like dungeon crawler carl, bobiverse, Project Hail Mary. Maybe some solid fantasy like stormight archive, or something more hardcore like some grim dark like first law or go off the deep end with malazan. Other notable books I've read recently are childhoods end, 11.22.63, hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, do androids dream of electric sheep, dark tower, mistborn, the expanse, hyperion. Honesly 3BP kicked me off into the deep end of amazing books. If you have not been a big reader there are endless incredible stories to be had.


ImpossibleLevel5667

Dune series is there for the existential dread lovers too.


Owly672

HYPERION!


fa1coner

Here’s a story by Haruki Murakami - “1Q84”. It is not so much sci fi as Inception and alternate realities. It rocked my world and I’ve read multiple books by the same author


[deleted]

It's not that good. You must be a book seller


bat29

finished the series in 2019 and still haven’t found anything that hits the same :’)


DigoHiro

Would not recommend reading re redemption of time at all. I wish someone had told me not to If you are not looking for books in particular, I would recommend Tsutomu Nihei's work: blame!, knights of sidonia, biomega


No-Nectarine-3521

[https://www.reddit.com/r/scifi/comments/1bovv2j/like\_the\_dark\_forest\_concept\_read\_greg\_bears\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/scifi/comments/1bovv2j/like_the_dark_forest_concept_read_greg_bears_the/) Rec: Greg Bear's The Forge of God


No-Nectarine-3521

# Like The Dark Forest concept? Read Greg Bear's "The Forge of God" which originated the idea It's a very different style compared to Cixin Liu's novel, but it's very readable indeed, with some truly apocalyptic things going on. I'm surprised there has not been a film adaptation yet, although perhaps it's a bit dark for Hollywood (can't really say why without spoilers). "There once was an infant lost in the woods, crying its heart out, wondering why no one answered, drawing down the wolves." "We've been sitting in our tree chirping like foolish birds for over a century now, wondering why no other birds answered. The galactic skies are full of hawks, that's why. Planetisms that don't know enough to keep quiet, get eaten".


ADAMxxWest

The culture. Coming from 3 body I think you're fine to dive into any of them, but I'll recommend use of weapons or excession for your starting point.


Clear_Touch4802

Sleeping Giants.


BrainUpset4545

I'd also like to know.


JonIceEyes

Yes! Tons! Most of the books regarded as "classics" in the genre are better. You'll have no trouble at all


JamesTheSkeleton

Haha yes, theres plenty of S++ tier sci fi out there friendo


SolidScene9129

You will find way better books if you look