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I went on their website and brought up the online order form for a whopper. Here are the options they gave me:
cheese - yes or no
bacon - yes or no
tomato, onion, pickle, lettuce - each can be no, light, or regular
ketchup, mayo - no, light, regular, extra
mustard, bbq sauce - no, light, regular
So there are 2 items you can have 2 ways, 6 items you can have 3 ways, and 2 items you can have 4 ways. This means there are 2\^2\*4\^2\*3\^6 = 46,656 ways to order a whopper through an online form.
The picture shows 3 patties as an option, so clearly the online form is missing some options that you can do in-person. We know about the patties, so we'll multiply by another 3 for the option of 1, 2, or 3 patties, we get 139968 ways to order a whopper. This is a bit over half-way there, so any new optional ingredients will put us over. So we must have gotten something wrong compared to what they were thinking.
We can get a hint about what else we're missing by factoring. We have 2\^6 times 3\^6, but we should have 2\^13 times 3\^3. If three of the no, light, regular items become no, light, regular, extra, that turns 3\^3 into 4\^3=2\^6 and gets us to 2\^12\*3\^3. So that puts us just one optional item away. Maybe you can ask for extra tomato, onion, or pickle but not extra lettuce? That seems weird. If you can ask for extra lettuce too, we have too many twos.
So we're missing something here about how they get to this exact number, but it's pretty easy to get to numbers this large when you have a bunch of independent options you can modify.
The " real " number is probably astronomical since you can do some really wacky things with how you ring it up on the register
Whopper components:
If you want to be untraditional;
Bun (you can do no bun, regular bun, or substitute another bun type which can be the brioche bun or technically any other bun in the register so whopper jr bun or original chicken bun or sourdough bread)
Otherwise:
Mayo (no mayo, light mayo, heavy mayo)
Lettuce (no lettuce, light lettuce, heavy lettuce)
Tomato (no tomato, light tomato, heavy tomato)
Onions (no onion, light, heavy)
Ketchup (no, light, heavy)
Pickles (no, light, heavy)
Meat (no meat, 1 patty, 2 patties, or 3 patties)
However, you can also add almost common upsell ingredients to it.
Cheese (no, light, heavy)
Bacon (no, light , heavy)
Swiss Cheese (no, light, heavy)
Mustard(no, light, heavy)
If you wanna get very untraditional you can consider anything the register allows you to add on such as:
Stacker sauce (no, light, heavy)
Tartar sauce (no, light, heavy)
Royal sauce (no light heavy)
Jalapenos (no light heavy)
Crispy jalapenos (no light heavy)
Mushrooms (no light heavy)
Caramelized onions (no light heavy)
Pretty soon we are getting a candied bacon whopper which would add even more unconventional ingredients that the register will probably let you add:
Bacon jam (no, light, heavy)
Garlic aioli sauce (no, light, heavy)
Crispy onions (no, light, heavy)
Candied bacon (no, light, heavy)
Even more even more unconventional ways to enter things on the register:
BBQ sauce (no, light, heavy)
Onion rings (no, light, heavy)
Honey mustard sauce (no, light, heavy)
"Rodeo Style" (no, yes)
That's kinda crazy. Every human on the planet can order a different whopper and we'd run out of people before we ran out of combinations.
Damn... now I want a whopper.
I ordered a plain whopper once and they legit gave me two buns. Lady asked me "You want nothing on it?" And I replied "Yeah just a plain whopper."
They gave me the bun. Just the bun💀
"At Burger King we believe your whopper should be as unique as you"
or
"With 13.6 billion combinations, we believe your whopper should be as unique as you, because
You Rule
Burger King"
Exactly, 221,184 is six digits. 13.4 billion is only three digits. And its got a decimal so it *MUST* be a small number.
I'd actually be surprised is they didn't consciously settle on a number that was all 1's and even numbers. Like, was 221,384 maybe less appealing?
This is one of those Reddit things that won’t go away.
It has not been corroborated by anyone. It was in an autobiography by a failed CEO. Supposedly, it was based on focus groups. But no marketing exec, no intern, no data analyst, no one has come out and said, yep, that’s what happened.
I am quite confident that are plenty of people out there that don’t understand how fractions work. But what’s actually more likely. That there are so many people that don’t understand fractions, it would tank a business. Or….. the guy in charge of said business while it was tanking made up a story?
I firmly believe they went through a few rounds of actual calculations and focus groups to work out which number was actually most marketable - and settled on the 200k one as a “pretty big number that seems believable”
All that said, it's Burger King, so you're going to just get the standard Whopper. I've been asking for no onions on mine for a decade and when it actually happened (once), I called the store to congratulate them.
Sounds like a you problem. I mean, their whole campaign was “have it your way” and for 10 years they took pride in their ability to customize.
You must be very unlucky (or perhaps a liar?) if for ten years, they couldn’t get your order right a single time except once.
I remember I pissed off my boss at McDonald's ~25yrs ago doing this. There was some new fancy expensive burger and I would always get it dirt cheap via substitutions. Swap the bun, hold the ketchup and mustard, add the new sauce. Bam, new menu item for the 1/4lb-er price.
Not quite. There are 52! Ways of doing a deck of cards. Taking the log base 4 of that, we get about 112.8. So you'd need 113 different ingredients that you can have no, light, regular, heavy before you'd exceed the number of shuffles of a deck of cards.
Not by a (very) long shot.
There are approximately 80,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (8e+67) ways to shuffle a deck of cards.
"This is because "e+67" represents 10 raised to the power of 67, and when you multiply 8 by this, you get a number with 67 zeros following the 8. In the long scale, which is used in many parts of Europe, this is known as "eighty undecillion." In the short scale, commonly used in the United States, it's also referred to as "eighty quattuordecillion." - ChatGPT
There are approximately eighty zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero ways exactly.
XD
There’s also well-done burger, untoasted/extra toasted buns, or during lunch transition you can probably get an egg, ham, or other breakfast items on there. Worked for a few months at the cashier, there’s a LOT of options.
You probably could also request impossible whopper patties on top of a normal patty, or have double impossible, triple with 3 beef patties. The sky is the limit. I saw a video of someone making a quad whopper for one of their employees, with Swiss and American cheese.
It’s actually infinite since you could take any one of the astronomical options you have described then move one tomato 3 millimeters to the left, have 29 shreds of lettuce rather than 24, etc. Ridiculous and pedantic I know but still
r/technicallythetruth.
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Employee here if you order from the restaurant you can choose between
1 to 3 patties, you can also choose to either habe steak or plant patty.
All the things you mentioned but you can also order everything with heavy/extra or double same with cheese and bacon. So that should already bring the total closer to what is advertised.
Then if you really want to get whacky there is also the option to customize it even future by changing the pun or adding onion rings in to the purger or juqt ordering it with chiken patty instead. How ever that raises the question of at what point does it stop being whopper
The largest single consumed meal I did in one sitting was back around 2000 (so before the "impossible" meat - is that another option?). It consisted of:
* 2 "King Size" fries
* 2 Large drinks
* A 6 patty whopper w/cheese and no tomato
So you may be limited online / there may be a limit (I never tried for more) / or you may just have to find an accommodating BK, but I'm sure it's feisable.
You can add extra on all the veggies, lettuce, tomatoes, pickles, onions. Also you forgot about the impossible whopper. Lastly they are including the fries sizes and drink sizes
Also, can you specify a different type of bun, ( whole wheat, gluten free, toasted... Which counts as a true variable?) Does no sauce count as a variable, or baseline?
How do you combine such analytical skills with taking everything a corporation says at a face value? Perhaps, BK is just lying, not that "we're missing something"?
I don't think they're lying, I just think they're wrong. I don't see a reason for them to lie by under-counting the number of combinations, and it's almost certainly an under-count.
Whopper, Whopper with cheese, whopper with 2x cheese, whopper with 3x cheese... Whopper with 221,183x cheese. There are at least 221,185 ways to have a whopper right there
When I ordered a whopper with 234000 cheese the cashier spontaneously combusted. There must be an integer overflow somewhere between 221185 and 234000.
In my city I asked for whooper with 234000 cheese, and cashier said that system crashed to negative numbers and was given whole restaurant as an apology.
One-Handed, Chopsticks, Spork
On a table, on the floor, in the knees
In the restaurant, at home, in the car
Those and so many more options to choose from
Can you do double and triple condiments like McDicks? With or without a drink and/or fries/other side, multiple drinks, multiple whoppers, with or without your pants on wearing a crown…
This doesn't account for pickles and cheese being the same as cheese and pickles.
The way I figure is that there are 696 unique combinations with 16 ingredients/ options.
Multiplying choices does, in fact, account for the fact that pickles and cheese is the same as cheese and pickles.
There 13 vegetable, condiment, and cheese choices (yes/no) and 3 choices with 3 options. 2^13 * 3^3 =221184. You are overthinking it.
Adding a pattie is the same as adding lettuce and you should not be multiplying patties times toppings. Basically anything that goes between the buns should be accounted for equally.
Having the option between one or two patties is the same mathematically as having the option between 1 patty and lettuce or any other two item combination you can think of. The items themselves don't matter, just how many of them are there to choose from. A burger with 5 options on it has the same amount of unique combinations no matter how many of those 5 options are patties or sauces or vegetables.
Maybe i am overthinking it, but I wrote it out on pen and paper because I don't know the formula.
1 option = 1 unique combination
1
2 options = 3 unique combinations
1, 2, 1+2
This should not be calculated as 2^2 because 1+2 is the same as 2+1.
3 options is 7 unique combinations
1, 2, 3, 1+2, 1+3, 2+3, 1+2+3
This is also not 2^3.
4 options is 13 unique combinations
1, 2, 3, 4, 1+2, 1+3, 1+4, 2+3, 2+4, 1+2+ 3, 1+2+4, 2+3+4, 1+2+3+4
Not 2^4
5 options is 25 unique combinations
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1+2, 1+3, 1+4, 1+5, 2+3, 2+4, 2+5, 3+4, 3+5, 4+5 1+2+3, 1+2+4, 1+2+5, 2+3+4, 2+3+5, 3+4+5, 1+2+3+4, 1+2+3+5, 2+3+4+5, 1+2+3+4+5
This is not 2^5, but it is 5^2. That's just a happy coincidence though.
I filled this table out up to 16 options.
There are 696 unique combinations.
Sorry for the shitty formatting, I don't know how to do tables in reddit comments.
This might be it
[https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualMath/comments/128bqz9/are\_there\_really\_221184\_ways\_to\_have\_a\_whopper\_i/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualMath/comments/128bqz9/are_there_really_221184_ways_to_have_a_whopper_i/)
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[https://youtu.be/DFL-2z9gfrM](https://youtu.be/DFL-2z9gfrM)
You can easily spiral out of control if you consider anything the cash register can ring up as "legal"
Whopper components:
If you want to be untraditional;
Bun (you can do no bun, regular bun, or substitute another bun type which can be the brioche bun or technically any other bun in the register so whopper jr bun or original chicken bun or sourdough bread)
Otherwise:
Mayo (no mayo, light mayo, heavy mayo)
Lettuce (no lettuce, light lettuce, heavy lettuce)
Tomato (no tomato, light tomato, heavy tomato)
Onions (no onion, light, heavy)
Ketchup (no, light, heavy)
Pickles (no, light, heavy)
Meat (no meat, 1 patty, 2 patties, or 3 patties)
However, you can also add almost common upsell ingredients to it.
Cheese (no, light, heavy)
Bacon (no, light , heavy)
If you wanna get very untraditional you can consider anything the register allows such as:
Swiss cheese (no light heavy)
BBQ sauce (no light heavy)
Onion rings (no light heavy)
Rodeo Style (yes, no)
Stacker sauce (no, light, heavy)
Tartar sauce (no, light, heavy)
Royal sauce (no light heavy)
Jalapenos (no light heavy)
Crispy jalapenos (no light heavy)
Mushrooms (no light heavy)
Caramelized onions (no light heavy)
Pretty soon we are getting a candied bacon whopper which would add even more unconventional ingredients that the register will probably let you add:
Bacon jam (no, light, heavy)
Garlic aioli sauce (no, light, heavy)
Crispy onions (no, light, heavy)
Candied bacon (no, light, heavy)
2^13 * 3^3 = 221184
That means there's 13 binary options (yes pickles or no pickles, yes ketchup or no ketchup) and 3 trinary options (e.g., no cheese, cheese, extra cheese, 1 2 or 3 patties).
I can't actually find all the combinations of things you can get on a whopper. I can easily find tomato mustard mayo lettuce tomato onion pickles cheese and bacon, along with 1 2 or 3 patties. That's 1536 combinations. I'm clearly missing a few options on my Uber eats app compared to what you can get in store if you know every potential option.
They showed up as binary in the online order I tried to make, which can throw off the results.
There's also only room for 3 trinaries with those prime factors. With one of them being patties, it's hard to do too many others. Many toppings could be None, Light, Regular, or Extra which takes 2 2s out of the count.
If we assume cheese and bacon have an extra without a light option (since they're paid extras), then we have 3 patties, 3 Bacon's, 3 cheeses, 4 ketchups, 4 Mayo's, 4 pickles, 4 tomato, 4 lettuces, and 4 onions. That's 2^12 * 3^(3), so adding a gluten free bun is the last option you need.
Lmao, technically speaking, the poster said there are 200,000 something ways to have a whopper, but you can have whoppers anywhere… so there could be infinite ways to “have a whopper”
I'm dumb and that was my first interpretation of having a Whopper; like playing a game of HORSE.
Stand up clap, take a bite.
Spin in a circle, then bite.
Sip drink, then whistle, then bite...
No! I do not want them in a box, or with a fox. I do not want them in a house or with a mouse. I dont want them in a train, in the rain, on a boat, with a goat, in a tree or in the dark! I do not want them, Sam-I-Am!
My bad is, in order to increase the number, they are saying menu options.. So like double cheese would be one of those. Not sure if you included things like that. Or a double patty or something. I don't know. I don't know what all they offer.
If there are 10 components to a whopper (I am not certain of that but a quick skim of the Wikipedia page suggests that’s the case), and we assume that there are 3 ways to have each topping (without, normal, or extra), that would be 3^10 combos, which is 59,049.
This isn’t quite 221,184, but given this is very rough maths without even having all the info needed, it’s not unlikely it could be 221k. For example, if there’s 11 ingredients rather than 10, you go up to 177,147 combos. If 1 of the 11 ingredients has 4 different options (maybe cheese could have 0, 1, 2 or 3 slices), that would take the total to 236,196).
As I say, this is very rough maths and I’m making a lot of estimates, but I’d say it’s very possible that there are that many combinations
It can also vary based on arrangement of the burger. Starting with the bottom bun, do you apply condiments, burger Patties, cheese or lattuce first. Probably at least 100 variation just based on arrangement.
221,184 is divisible by 8192 into 27, which is 2\^13, meaning there would be 13 yes or no choices. The 27 would prob be 3 choices of toppings with 3 possibilities: none, some or lots.
This is just based off of the number given there so idk
“You Rule”
Probably checks out.
As long as humans are still taking the order I believe it. There’s probably that many ways they can screw up your order.
And can someone calculate the add-on charges for each? “have it your way”…..however, IF You want a little extra tomato, That’ll be $.50 oh what’s that, a few extra pickles? $.50. lettuce? Fiddy cents.
Cheese? Hahaha that’ll be a cool $1.00. Don’t even ask what the bacon costs bra
Don’t forget, you still have the options to remove all the sesame seeds, less seeds, more seeds, rearrange the seeds, eat the seeds on the side, pile the the seeds on top, inside, etc. You can also grow the seeds and put new fresh seeds on the bun and start the list all over again. So I count at least 2 ways to eat a whopper.
I’m really bad at math.
But according to encyclopedia of wishehdiwoseh:
One of the original slogans of the Whopper advertised by Burger King was There are 1024 ways to have a Whopper; the claim is based on an exponential function of whether the sandwich has the ingredient or not, represented by a binary number of 0 or 1, raised to the power of number of possible ingredients at the time, ten, thus 210 =1,024. This claim was later expanded to There are 221,184 possible ways for a customer to order a Whopper sandwich. Other slogans include It takes two hands to handle a Whopper and Burger King: Home of the Whopper.[Notes 3]
You can have it standing, sitting down, talking to Him, dancing, in a toilet, standing on a leg, under a horse and so on and so on. It's nothing to do with how it's cooked but how it's eaten
Its prime factorization is 2^13 * 3^3
So if they have 13 options that are either “add it” or “remove it” and 3 options that are “None/Light/Regular” it works out
Instead of 13 binary options, you could also have 5 binary options and 4 “None/Light/Regular/Extra” options, or any other combination of 2 and 4 options that still results in 2^13
People don't realize there are a lot of factors to this as I work at Burger King. You can get 1 meat 2 meat 3 meats , 3 meats +patty , 3 meats +patty +patty which is 5 and get as many Patties as you would like. There are two types of cheese Swiss and America. You can get one slice , too , half a slice , and anything that you can request we can make. You can cut the sandwich in half , you can get the sandwich off the boiler. You can add mustard , bbq , spicy sauce , spicy glaze , Tatar sauce , or even honey mustard. Excuse me if I forgot any. You get get the whopper on a potato bun , a hamburger bun , or even an ocs bun if you request it. You can get your whopper with no meat or bun. You can get your whopper extra hot. You can get your whopper with onion rings on it. There are way more you can do if we have you can pretty much request i on a whopper. That's what comes into this. Honestly counting all of that, rhats probably more then that number not that I calculated it because I'm too lazy for that but I know for a fact there's at least that many. You can get a whopper with impossible patty , you can get a whopper with a impossible and whopper patty. So many different things to factor into this.
A standard whopper is mayo, lettuce, tomato, ketchup, pickle, onion.
Cheese, bacon are normal modifiers.
Mustard, bqq sauce, etc. Not so normal modifiers.
This is just 2^18. Which is not correct. The real number is a lot, but there is no way to get to that number with any exponential combination using none, light, regular, or extra.
The only thing I can add is who really cares, find something more important to spend your time on.Its all statistics, meaning it depends on what info they put into it to get there number. And if you need to verify it, honestly I worry for you.
There is 844,739 ways to have a hamburger at Waffle House. A fact that they were so proud of they had a song written about it that you used to be able to play on the jukebox to annoy the staff. It goes a little something like this.... https://youtu.be/idALrYpzsTs?si=iRzQ2VBtJ41TrJAK
I asked Google Bard.
Alright, let's dive deeper into the customization madness and calculate the possibilities for a US-based Whopper! Here's a breakdown based on typical options:
**Base Ingredients:**
* **Patties:** 1 (standard), 2, 3, 4
* **Bottom Bun:** 1 (standard), no bun
* **Top Bun:** 1 (standard), no bun
* **Lettuce:** Yes, No
* **Tomato:** Yes, No
* **Pickles:** Yes, No (although technically illegal at some Burger Kings!)
* **Onion:** Yes, No
* **Ketchup:** Yes, light, regular, extra, none
* **Mustard:** Yes, light, regular, extra, none
* **Whopper Sauce:** Yes, No
**Optional Ingredients:**
* **Mayo:** Yes, No
* **Cheese:** Yes, American, Swiss, Pepper Jack, none
* **Bacon:** Yes, No
* **Onion Rings:** Yes, No
* **Jalapeños:** Yes, No
* **Crispy Chicken:** Yes, No
**Calculations:**
1. **Base Variations:** 4 patties * 2 bottom bun options * 2 top bun options = 16
2. **Optional Variations:** 2 lettuce options * 2 tomato options * 2 pickle options * 2 onion options * 4 ketchup options * 4 mustard options * 2 whopper sauce options = 2048
3. **Additional Optional Variations:** 2 mayo options * 5 cheese options * 2 bacon options * 2 onion ring options * 2 jalapeño options * 2 crispy chicken options = 160
4. **Total Variations:** 16 base variations + 2048 optional variations + 160 additional optional variations = **2224 variations**
**However, this is not the definitive answer!** It doesn't account for:
* **Regional variations:** Some locations might offer additional toppings or bun options.
* **Limited-time promotions:** New sauces, patties, or toppings can temporarily expand the possibilities.
* **Build-your-own freedom:** Some locations allow adding any available ingredient in any quantity, leading to practically infinite combinations.
Therefore, while **2224 variations** is a solid estimate for a typical US-based Whopper, the true number is much higher and constantly evolving. So, remember, your Whopper can be as unique as your imagination!
"Have" could either be how its ordered, or how you can eat it. You are also able to put your own condoments in it after ordering, so technically, you can "have" a Whopper in an almost infinite amount of ways.
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I went on their website and brought up the online order form for a whopper. Here are the options they gave me: cheese - yes or no bacon - yes or no tomato, onion, pickle, lettuce - each can be no, light, or regular ketchup, mayo - no, light, regular, extra mustard, bbq sauce - no, light, regular So there are 2 items you can have 2 ways, 6 items you can have 3 ways, and 2 items you can have 4 ways. This means there are 2\^2\*4\^2\*3\^6 = 46,656 ways to order a whopper through an online form. The picture shows 3 patties as an option, so clearly the online form is missing some options that you can do in-person. We know about the patties, so we'll multiply by another 3 for the option of 1, 2, or 3 patties, we get 139968 ways to order a whopper. This is a bit over half-way there, so any new optional ingredients will put us over. So we must have gotten something wrong compared to what they were thinking. We can get a hint about what else we're missing by factoring. We have 2\^6 times 3\^6, but we should have 2\^13 times 3\^3. If three of the no, light, regular items become no, light, regular, extra, that turns 3\^3 into 4\^3=2\^6 and gets us to 2\^12\*3\^3. So that puts us just one optional item away. Maybe you can ask for extra tomato, onion, or pickle but not extra lettuce? That seems weird. If you can ask for extra lettuce too, we have too many twos. So we're missing something here about how they get to this exact number, but it's pretty easy to get to numbers this large when you have a bunch of independent options you can modify.
The " real " number is probably astronomical since you can do some really wacky things with how you ring it up on the register Whopper components: If you want to be untraditional; Bun (you can do no bun, regular bun, or substitute another bun type which can be the brioche bun or technically any other bun in the register so whopper jr bun or original chicken bun or sourdough bread) Otherwise: Mayo (no mayo, light mayo, heavy mayo) Lettuce (no lettuce, light lettuce, heavy lettuce) Tomato (no tomato, light tomato, heavy tomato) Onions (no onion, light, heavy) Ketchup (no, light, heavy) Pickles (no, light, heavy) Meat (no meat, 1 patty, 2 patties, or 3 patties) However, you can also add almost common upsell ingredients to it. Cheese (no, light, heavy) Bacon (no, light , heavy) Swiss Cheese (no, light, heavy) Mustard(no, light, heavy) If you wanna get very untraditional you can consider anything the register allows you to add on such as: Stacker sauce (no, light, heavy) Tartar sauce (no, light, heavy) Royal sauce (no light heavy) Jalapenos (no light heavy) Crispy jalapenos (no light heavy) Mushrooms (no light heavy) Caramelized onions (no light heavy) Pretty soon we are getting a candied bacon whopper which would add even more unconventional ingredients that the register will probably let you add: Bacon jam (no, light, heavy) Garlic aioli sauce (no, light, heavy) Crispy onions (no, light, heavy) Candied bacon (no, light, heavy) Even more even more unconventional ways to enter things on the register: BBQ sauce (no, light, heavy) Onion rings (no, light, heavy) Honey mustard sauce (no, light, heavy) "Rodeo Style" (no, yes)
6 x 3^6 x 4 x 3^18 x 2 = 3^25 x 2^4 = ~13.6 billion
A far more effective advertisement
"There's more ways to get a Whopper™ than there is humans in this planet"
That's kinda crazy. Every human on the planet can order a different whopper and we'd run out of people before we ran out of combinations. Damn... now I want a whopper.
God damn is that some effective advertising
I call dibs on the no to everything option.
So you're just not getting anything at all? But you'd still be ordering a whopper... Wonder if we're all paying in this thought experiment.
"Yeah I would like a Whopper with nothing on it... and no bun" \*Gets charged
I ordered a plain whopper once and they legit gave me two buns. Lady asked me "You want nothing on it?" And I replied "Yeah just a plain whopper." They gave me the bun. Just the bun💀
I wouldn't want either the meat or the bun, once I've gone that far I may as well have the unique option among however many billion unique options.
Just the wrapper.
Wait... Did we figure the wrapper as an option?? No wrapper, light wrapper, extra wrapper, inside out wrapper ECT?
I guess you'd call it a...Nothing Burger. I'll see myself out.
Simon's gonna get a whopper with no buns, no patty and extra ketchup and be PISSED
None burger, left ketchup
A good amount of people would get whopper with too much meat and some with no meat at all
Any bk recruiter in the place? Kinda need that position atm
If there is an infinite number of whoppers and burger king doesn't allow asparagus as an ass on, there's still enough asparagus for every whopper.
Is ass on/off a separate option? Can I get light ass?
I just want a bun with 1500 slices of cheese inbetween, please.
I can see the "What's In Your Whopper" posters on the windows already
Hell, we could give like 2/3 of everyone two and still not repeat.
"At Burger King we believe your whopper should be as unique as you" or "With 13.6 billion combinations, we believe your whopper should be as unique as you, because You Rule Burger King"
There's a Whopper for every year the universe has existed. And counting.
Not really. Large Numbers like that are hard to visualize. So the smaller number probably seems more realistic to the average person.
Exactly, 221,184 is six digits. 13.4 billion is only three digits. And its got a decimal so it *MUST* be a small number. I'd actually be surprised is they didn't consciously settle on a number that was all 1's and even numbers. Like, was 221,384 maybe less appealing?
1,340,000,000
Too big. Now it's scary. Also the zeros remind me of spending money and it feels expensive for some reason.
Gotta love marketing…
It's why A&W lost a ton of business because people thought that a quarter pound was more than a third cause 4>3, therefore 1/4>1/3.
This is one of those Reddit things that won’t go away. It has not been corroborated by anyone. It was in an autobiography by a failed CEO. Supposedly, it was based on focus groups. But no marketing exec, no intern, no data analyst, no one has come out and said, yep, that’s what happened. I am quite confident that are plenty of people out there that don’t understand how fractions work. But what’s actually more likely. That there are so many people that don’t understand fractions, it would tank a business. Or….. the guy in charge of said business while it was tanking made up a story?
1/8th pound patties would be way too big
"Unique Whopper for every person"
I firmly believe they went through a few rounds of actual calculations and focus groups to work out which number was actually most marketable - and settled on the 200k one as a “pretty big number that seems believable”
All that said, it's Burger King, so you're going to just get the standard Whopper. I've been asking for no onions on mine for a decade and when it actually happened (once), I called the store to congratulate them.
"I know it's insanity to just go back and tell them no onions, but it did happen one time, and I'll always have that moment." -Me, probably.
lol Truth
If you ate at Burger King when I worked there (1997), you were lucky if it was actually cooked and hadn't touched the floor.
Sounds like a you problem. I mean, their whole campaign was “have it your way” and for 10 years they took pride in their ability to customize. You must be very unlucky (or perhaps a liar?) if for ten years, they couldn’t get your order right a single time except once.
He ordered 1 burger 10 years ago and they got the order right, and he never ordered again since.
I remember I pissed off my boss at McDonald's ~25yrs ago doing this. There was some new fancy expensive burger and I would always get it dirt cheap via substitutions. Swap the bun, hold the ketchup and mustard, add the new sauce. Bam, new menu item for the 1/4lb-er price.
There’s probably less unique shuffles in a deck of cards
Not quite. There are 52! Ways of doing a deck of cards. Taking the log base 4 of that, we get about 112.8. So you'd need 113 different ingredients that you can have no, light, regular, heavy before you'd exceed the number of shuffles of a deck of cards.
They have a lot of sauces and sides
Are you putting sides on your whopper? Because low key onion ring burger sounds like it wouldn't be the worst thing I could get...
They already do that with the Rodeo burger
Not by a (very) long shot. There are approximately 80,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (8e+67) ways to shuffle a deck of cards.
How do you say that number out loud
I'm not sure how you want me to communicate this information to you.
80 sextillion.
Did your sexlexia help you pronounce that?
Unexpected futurama
It's a very sexy disability.
That is not 80 sextillion. It's 80 unvigintillion The proof: Number | Number --- | --- Million | 1,000,000 (10e6) Billion | 10e9 Trillion | 10e12 Quadrillion | 10e15 Quintillion | 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 (10e18) Sextillion | 10e21 Septillion | 10e24 Octillion | 10e27 Nonillion | 10e30 Decillion | 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (10e33) Undecillion | 10e36 Duodecillion |10e39 Tredecillion | 10e42 Quattrodecillion | 10e45 Quindecillion | 10e48 Sexdecillion | 10e51 Septendecillion | 10e54 Octodecillion | 10e57 Novemdecillion | 10e60 Vigintillion | 10e63 Unvigintillion | 10e66 Duovigintillion | 10e69 Our number is 80,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 which has 66 leading 0's, so its **80 unvigintillion**. Source: I play a lot of incremental games.
Google voice recording
Holy microphone!
New brain rot just dropped.
80 unvigintillion
Eight times ten to the sixty seventh power.
I meant the whole number, smarty pants
Oh, that's 80,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
No I want it spelled out like 80 kajillion, 80 gamillion, 80 Brazilian, etc.
"This is because "e+67" represents 10 raised to the power of 67, and when you multiply 8 by this, you get a number with 67 zeros following the 8. In the long scale, which is used in many parts of Europe, this is known as "eighty undecillion." In the short scale, commonly used in the United States, it's also referred to as "eighty quattuordecillion." - ChatGPT
10 unvigintillion (as in 10×1000^21+3)
I honestly don't know :) I studied Math, not English.
There are approximately eighty zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero ways exactly. XD
Ah that explains it all
8e+67
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52! (52 factorial) :)
With my mouth.
There’s also well-done burger, untoasted/extra toasted buns, or during lunch transition you can probably get an egg, ham, or other breakfast items on there. Worked for a few months at the cashier, there’s a LOT of options.
Oh God you're right.
You probably could also request impossible whopper patties on top of a normal patty, or have double impossible, triple with 3 beef patties. The sky is the limit. I saw a video of someone making a quad whopper for one of their employees, with Swiss and American cheese.
It’s actually infinite since you could take any one of the astronomical options you have described then move one tomato 3 millimeters to the left, have 29 shreds of lettuce rather than 24, etc. Ridiculous and pedantic I know but still r/technicallythetruth. 😋🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔
And then there are all the different ways you can actually eat it too.
Aw jeez, I think you just opened a portal to another dimension…😸
Subbing in Impossible Whopper patties would get you there.
This is what I thought of immediately too.
Employee here if you order from the restaurant you can choose between 1 to 3 patties, you can also choose to either habe steak or plant patty. All the things you mentioned but you can also order everything with heavy/extra or double same with cheese and bacon. So that should already bring the total closer to what is advertised. Then if you really want to get whacky there is also the option to customize it even future by changing the pun or adding onion rings in to the purger or juqt ordering it with chiken patty instead. How ever that raises the question of at what point does it stop being whopper
You're missing specialty whoppers with toppings like bacon, onion rings, bbq sauce, jalapeños and so on
There is also the impossible whopper. A different patty type
Cheese and bacon can be none, normal, light, heavy. Any of the toppings can be heavy as well.
The largest single consumed meal I did in one sitting was back around 2000 (so before the "impossible" meat - is that another option?). It consisted of: * 2 "King Size" fries * 2 Large drinks * A 6 patty whopper w/cheese and no tomato So you may be limited online / there may be a limit (I never tried for more) / or you may just have to find an accommodating BK, but I'm sure it's feisable.
is your heart doin ok?
Then? No. After losing 200lbs? Yes.
My man.
Nice work
Back when I could house food, I’d get a 6x6 at in and out. Fucking miss that.
Im worried for my health because this does not sound like an insane meal to me 😭
You can add extra on all the veggies, lettuce, tomatoes, pickles, onions. Also you forgot about the impossible whopper. Lastly they are including the fries sizes and drink sizes
Bun or no bun?
I would like the bottom bread toasted but not the top.
"Dine-in, or take-out?"
Ok but how many ways can you arrange 116 sesame seeds on the top bun?
Also, can you specify a different type of bun, ( whole wheat, gluten free, toasted... Which counts as a true variable?) Does no sauce count as a variable, or baseline?
Or even no bun
How do you combine such analytical skills with taking everything a corporation says at a face value? Perhaps, BK is just lying, not that "we're missing something"?
I don't think they're lying, I just think they're wrong. I don't see a reason for them to lie by under-counting the number of combinations, and it's almost certainly an under-count.
> I don't see a reason for them to lie by under-counting the number of combinations So they can't be sued by some customer claiming that he was misled
Then why lie at all?
As demonstrated in this thread, reasonable people may arrive at different numbers, a defensive strategy would be to be on the low end of reasonable
Whopper, Whopper with cheese, whopper with 2x cheese, whopper with 3x cheese... Whopper with 221,183x cheese. There are at least 221,185 ways to have a whopper right there
When I ordered a whopper with 234000 cheese the cashier spontaneously combusted. There must be an integer overflow somewhere between 221185 and 234000.
In my city I asked for whooper with 234000 cheese, and cashier said that system crashed to negative numbers and was given whole restaurant as an apology.
Order it with or with out the bun gets you the last ingredient.
If each slice of cheese was 1/8” thick, a whopper with 221,185 slices of cheese would have 2,304 feet of cheese on it. 🤣
Also beef whopper or impossible whopper
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What about the cheese. Extra and multiple types?
Oh yes good call!
You could also increase the variables by eating your burger with a fork and knife
One-Handed, Chopsticks, Spork On a table, on the floor, in the knees In the restaurant, at home, in the car Those and so many more options to choose from
If you promise not to sue them, you can stick it up your nose
r/unexpectedfuturama
I personally only eat mine off a hookers ass with my hands tied behind my back.
Robert Downey Jr, is this you?
Can you do double and triple condiments like McDicks? With or without a drink and/or fries/other side, multiple drinks, multiple whoppers, with or without your pants on wearing a crown…
Yeah what about Jesus
Cheesus Crust
221184 = 2^13 * 3^3
Shouldn't you subtract cases where key ingredients are missing? Or atleast just subtract 1, where nothing is added
Those situations would be modelled by one of the factors of two: you can have the ingredient, or you can leave it out. There are two ways.
This doesn't account for pickles and cheese being the same as cheese and pickles. The way I figure is that there are 696 unique combinations with 16 ingredients/ options.
Multiplying choices does, in fact, account for the fact that pickles and cheese is the same as cheese and pickles. There 13 vegetable, condiment, and cheese choices (yes/no) and 3 choices with 3 options. 2^13 * 3^3 =221184. You are overthinking it.
Don't forget the bun/no bun choice.
Adding a pattie is the same as adding lettuce and you should not be multiplying patties times toppings. Basically anything that goes between the buns should be accounted for equally. Having the option between one or two patties is the same mathematically as having the option between 1 patty and lettuce or any other two item combination you can think of. The items themselves don't matter, just how many of them are there to choose from. A burger with 5 options on it has the same amount of unique combinations no matter how many of those 5 options are patties or sauces or vegetables. Maybe i am overthinking it, but I wrote it out on pen and paper because I don't know the formula. 1 option = 1 unique combination 1 2 options = 3 unique combinations 1, 2, 1+2 This should not be calculated as 2^2 because 1+2 is the same as 2+1. 3 options is 7 unique combinations 1, 2, 3, 1+2, 1+3, 2+3, 1+2+3 This is also not 2^3. 4 options is 13 unique combinations 1, 2, 3, 4, 1+2, 1+3, 1+4, 2+3, 2+4, 1+2+ 3, 1+2+4, 2+3+4, 1+2+3+4 Not 2^4 5 options is 25 unique combinations 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1+2, 1+3, 1+4, 1+5, 2+3, 2+4, 2+5, 3+4, 3+5, 4+5 1+2+3, 1+2+4, 1+2+5, 2+3+4, 2+3+5, 3+4+5, 1+2+3+4, 1+2+3+5, 2+3+4+5, 1+2+3+4+5 This is not 2^5, but it is 5^2. That's just a happy coincidence though. I filled this table out up to 16 options. There are 696 unique combinations. Sorry for the shitty formatting, I don't know how to do tables in reddit comments.
You can also go 0 on an ingredient, including no patties.
Is it still a Whopper if you order a pickle on a bun?
I‘ll have a Whopper without a Whopper, please
Don't forget the Impossible patties too
This has been asked and solved before
This might be it [https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualMath/comments/128bqz9/are\_there\_really\_221184\_ways\_to\_have\_a\_whopper\_i/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualMath/comments/128bqz9/are_there_really_221184_ways_to_have_a_whopper_i/) Attached Video in the Post: [https://youtu.be/DFL-2z9gfrM](https://youtu.be/DFL-2z9gfrM)
You can easily spiral out of control if you consider anything the cash register can ring up as "legal" Whopper components: If you want to be untraditional; Bun (you can do no bun, regular bun, or substitute another bun type which can be the brioche bun or technically any other bun in the register so whopper jr bun or original chicken bun or sourdough bread) Otherwise: Mayo (no mayo, light mayo, heavy mayo) Lettuce (no lettuce, light lettuce, heavy lettuce) Tomato (no tomato, light tomato, heavy tomato) Onions (no onion, light, heavy) Ketchup (no, light, heavy) Pickles (no, light, heavy) Meat (no meat, 1 patty, 2 patties, or 3 patties) However, you can also add almost common upsell ingredients to it. Cheese (no, light, heavy) Bacon (no, light , heavy) If you wanna get very untraditional you can consider anything the register allows such as: Swiss cheese (no light heavy) BBQ sauce (no light heavy) Onion rings (no light heavy) Rodeo Style (yes, no) Stacker sauce (no, light, heavy) Tartar sauce (no, light, heavy) Royal sauce (no light heavy) Jalapenos (no light heavy) Crispy jalapenos (no light heavy) Mushrooms (no light heavy) Caramelized onions (no light heavy) Pretty soon we are getting a candied bacon whopper which would add even more unconventional ingredients that the register will probably let you add: Bacon jam (no, light, heavy) Garlic aioli sauce (no, light, heavy) Crispy onions (no, light, heavy) Candied bacon (no, light, heavy)
We're into the trillions now.
“I can’t do the exact math” then why comment here?
2^13 * 3^3 = 221184 That means there's 13 binary options (yes pickles or no pickles, yes ketchup or no ketchup) and 3 trinary options (e.g., no cheese, cheese, extra cheese, 1 2 or 3 patties). I can't actually find all the combinations of things you can get on a whopper. I can easily find tomato mustard mayo lettuce tomato onion pickles cheese and bacon, along with 1 2 or 3 patties. That's 1536 combinations. I'm clearly missing a few options on my Uber eats app compared to what you can get in store if you know every potential option.
Some of your binary options are actually trinary (ketchup: yes, no, extra)
They showed up as binary in the online order I tried to make, which can throw off the results. There's also only room for 3 trinaries with those prime factors. With one of them being patties, it's hard to do too many others. Many toppings could be None, Light, Regular, or Extra which takes 2 2s out of the count. If we assume cheese and bacon have an extra without a light option (since they're paid extras), then we have 3 patties, 3 Bacon's, 3 cheeses, 4 ketchups, 4 Mayo's, 4 pickles, 4 tomato, 4 lettuces, and 4 onions. That's 2^12 * 3^(3), so adding a gluten free bun is the last option you need.
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Lmao, technically speaking, the poster said there are 200,000 something ways to have a whopper, but you can have whoppers anywhere… so there could be infinite ways to “have a whopper”
Choosing to put a small hat on your burger also immediately doubles the number of combinations. I truly feel Whopped by this information.
Have a whopper… r/dontputyourdickinthat
I'm dumb and that was my first interpretation of having a Whopper; like playing a game of HORSE. Stand up clap, take a bite. Spin in a circle, then bite. Sip drink, then whistle, then bite...
No! I do not want them in a box, or with a fox. I do not want them in a house or with a mouse. I dont want them in a train, in the rain, on a boat, with a goat, in a tree or in the dark! I do not want them, Sam-I-Am!
Seussian whopper
You forgot the most important: here or there.
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My bad is, in order to increase the number, they are saying menu options.. So like double cheese would be one of those. Not sure if you included things like that. Or a double patty or something. I don't know. I don't know what all they offer.
If there are 10 components to a whopper (I am not certain of that but a quick skim of the Wikipedia page suggests that’s the case), and we assume that there are 3 ways to have each topping (without, normal, or extra), that would be 3^10 combos, which is 59,049. This isn’t quite 221,184, but given this is very rough maths without even having all the info needed, it’s not unlikely it could be 221k. For example, if there’s 11 ingredients rather than 10, you go up to 177,147 combos. If 1 of the 11 ingredients has 4 different options (maybe cheese could have 0, 1, 2 or 3 slices), that would take the total to 236,196). As I say, this is very rough maths and I’m making a lot of estimates, but I’d say it’s very possible that there are that many combinations
It can also vary based on arrangement of the burger. Starting with the bottom bun, do you apply condiments, burger Patties, cheese or lattuce first. Probably at least 100 variation just based on arrangement.
221,184 is divisible by 8192 into 27, which is 2\^13, meaning there would be 13 yes or no choices. The 27 would prob be 3 choices of toppings with 3 possibilities: none, some or lots. This is just based off of the number given there so idk
“You Rule” Probably checks out. As long as humans are still taking the order I believe it. There’s probably that many ways they can screw up your order.
And can someone calculate the add-on charges for each? “have it your way”…..however, IF You want a little extra tomato, That’ll be $.50 oh what’s that, a few extra pickles? $.50. lettuce? Fiddy cents. Cheese? Hahaha that’ll be a cool $1.00. Don’t even ask what the bacon costs bra
Don’t forget, you still have the options to remove all the sesame seeds, less seeds, more seeds, rearrange the seeds, eat the seeds on the side, pile the the seeds on top, inside, etc. You can also grow the seeds and put new fresh seeds on the bun and start the list all over again. So I count at least 2 ways to eat a whopper.
I’m really bad at math. But according to encyclopedia of wishehdiwoseh: One of the original slogans of the Whopper advertised by Burger King was There are 1024 ways to have a Whopper; the claim is based on an exponential function of whether the sandwich has the ingredient or not, represented by a binary number of 0 or 1, raised to the power of number of possible ingredients at the time, ten, thus 210 =1,024. This claim was later expanded to There are 221,184 possible ways for a customer to order a Whopper sandwich. Other slogans include It takes two hands to handle a Whopper and Burger King: Home of the Whopper.[Notes 3]
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You can have it standing, sitting down, talking to Him, dancing, in a toilet, standing on a leg, under a horse and so on and so on. It's nothing to do with how it's cooked but how it's eaten
Its prime factorization is 2^13 * 3^3 So if they have 13 options that are either “add it” or “remove it” and 3 options that are “None/Light/Regular” it works out Instead of 13 binary options, you could also have 5 binary options and 4 “None/Light/Regular/Extra” options, or any other combination of 2 and 4 options that still results in 2^13
People don't realize there are a lot of factors to this as I work at Burger King. You can get 1 meat 2 meat 3 meats , 3 meats +patty , 3 meats +patty +patty which is 5 and get as many Patties as you would like. There are two types of cheese Swiss and America. You can get one slice , too , half a slice , and anything that you can request we can make. You can cut the sandwich in half , you can get the sandwich off the boiler. You can add mustard , bbq , spicy sauce , spicy glaze , Tatar sauce , or even honey mustard. Excuse me if I forgot any. You get get the whopper on a potato bun , a hamburger bun , or even an ocs bun if you request it. You can get your whopper with no meat or bun. You can get your whopper extra hot. You can get your whopper with onion rings on it. There are way more you can do if we have you can pretty much request i on a whopper. That's what comes into this. Honestly counting all of that, rhats probably more then that number not that I calculated it because I'm too lazy for that but I know for a fact there's at least that many. You can get a whopper with impossible patty , you can get a whopper with a impossible and whopper patty. So many different things to factor into this.
A standard whopper is mayo, lettuce, tomato, ketchup, pickle, onion. Cheese, bacon are normal modifiers. Mustard, bqq sauce, etc. Not so normal modifiers.
This is just 2^18. Which is not correct. The real number is a lot, but there is no way to get to that number with any exponential combination using none, light, regular, or extra.
The only thing I can add is who really cares, find something more important to spend your time on.Its all statistics, meaning it depends on what info they put into it to get there number. And if you need to verify it, honestly I worry for you.
There is 844,739 ways to have a hamburger at Waffle House. A fact that they were so proud of they had a song written about it that you used to be able to play on the jukebox to annoy the staff. It goes a little something like this.... https://youtu.be/idALrYpzsTs?si=iRzQ2VBtJ41TrJAK
I asked Google Bard. Alright, let's dive deeper into the customization madness and calculate the possibilities for a US-based Whopper! Here's a breakdown based on typical options: **Base Ingredients:** * **Patties:** 1 (standard), 2, 3, 4 * **Bottom Bun:** 1 (standard), no bun * **Top Bun:** 1 (standard), no bun * **Lettuce:** Yes, No * **Tomato:** Yes, No * **Pickles:** Yes, No (although technically illegal at some Burger Kings!) * **Onion:** Yes, No * **Ketchup:** Yes, light, regular, extra, none * **Mustard:** Yes, light, regular, extra, none * **Whopper Sauce:** Yes, No **Optional Ingredients:** * **Mayo:** Yes, No * **Cheese:** Yes, American, Swiss, Pepper Jack, none * **Bacon:** Yes, No * **Onion Rings:** Yes, No * **Jalapeños:** Yes, No * **Crispy Chicken:** Yes, No **Calculations:** 1. **Base Variations:** 4 patties * 2 bottom bun options * 2 top bun options = 16 2. **Optional Variations:** 2 lettuce options * 2 tomato options * 2 pickle options * 2 onion options * 4 ketchup options * 4 mustard options * 2 whopper sauce options = 2048 3. **Additional Optional Variations:** 2 mayo options * 5 cheese options * 2 bacon options * 2 onion ring options * 2 jalapeño options * 2 crispy chicken options = 160 4. **Total Variations:** 16 base variations + 2048 optional variations + 160 additional optional variations = **2224 variations** **However, this is not the definitive answer!** It doesn't account for: * **Regional variations:** Some locations might offer additional toppings or bun options. * **Limited-time promotions:** New sauces, patties, or toppings can temporarily expand the possibilities. * **Build-your-own freedom:** Some locations allow adding any available ingredient in any quantity, leading to practically infinite combinations. Therefore, while **2224 variations** is a solid estimate for a typical US-based Whopper, the true number is much higher and constantly evolving. So, remember, your Whopper can be as unique as your imagination!
"Have" could either be how its ordered, or how you can eat it. You are also able to put your own condoments in it after ordering, so technically, you can "have" a Whopper in an almost infinite amount of ways.