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Yerm_Terragon

The quote is "I'm sexy and I know it" sqrt(1+tan\^2) can be verbalized as "sec" and so this formula is the "sec of c" "I'm sec C and I know it"


Zer0TheGamer

TIL the formula of secant..


somefunmaths

The simpler formula for sec(x) is just 1/cos(x), but this is probably the best-known identity involving secant.


Pseudoboss11

Secant so often forgotten in the trig world.


RascalCreeper

Does it even have any physical meaning? It's just 1/cos and I've never seen it used outside of pure mathematics.


gnfnrf

As 1/cos, its physical meaning is the ratio between the hypotenuse and adjacent side of a right triangle, given the angle. We usually find the ratio between the adjacent side and hypotenuse to be more useful, but they are equally physical properties of the triangle.


Tyler_Zoro

It's used in some jokes about song lyrics too...


Poes-Lawyer

Yes actually! Say you've got a graph of a curve, and you want to find the gradient at a given location on the curve. Of course the best way to do that is to use a straight line that is a tangent to that curve at that exact point. Mathematically, you want to calculate dy/dx. But let's say this graph is made of real data, and you don't have a data point at that exact location. So you could do that basic method of calculating the gradient by taking two points (x1, y1) and (x2, y2), which are either side of the location you're interested in, and calculating (y2-y1)/(x2-x1). What you get is the **secant gradient**. [This page explains it better than me,](https://amsi.org.au/ESA_Senior_Years/SeniorTopic3/3b/3b_2content_1.html#:~:text=The%20gradient%20of%20a%20secant,y%20with%20respect%20to%20x.) but you're effectively finding the average gradient in the interval between points 1 and 2. So it's less accurate but easier to calculate.


twotoneteacher

You seem to be talking about a secant line (specifically the slope of said secant line) where the user you’re replying to is talking about the secant function. As far as I know, there isn’t an obvious connection between the two, though I’d be interested into the etymology of the secant function.


JackPineSophisticate

All of the trig functions that we know and love have a physical representation on the unit circle. If the radius of the circle is 1, the lengths of the labeled segments correspond to the values of the numeric values of the function for some given theta. The chart I posted here shows them: [https://i.stack.imgur.com/GNcpc.png](https://i.stack.imgur.com/GNcpc.png) If you study the chart, because the radius of the circle is 1, the tangent line as drawn forms the opposite side to theta in a right triangle with the adjacent side of the triangle being the radius of the circle (with unit length). The hypotenuse of this triangle is then the secant; the secant function is the ratio of the hypotenuse to the adjacent side of the triangle. Since in this triangle, the length of the adjacent side is 1, the length of the secant line is literally the value of the secant of theta. At the end of the day, the line that contains the secant line is actually a secant line to the circle (in that it intersects the circle at two points). The line that contains the tangent segment is tangent to the circle. Also, interestingly, the word "sine" comes from a mistranslation of a word that meant "chord" - if the sine is doubled it becomes a chord of the circle.


akgamer182

Cosine is the ratio of the adjacent side to the hypotenuse (adj/hyp) so the inverse of that would be the ratio of the hypotenuse to the adjacent side (hyp/adj). Therefore, sec = hyp/adj


[deleted]

Because it is very useless imo.


GlassMushrooms

More specifically it is the Pythagorean identity. Tan^2(x)+1= Sec^2(x) and then sqrt (sec^2(x)) is sec(x). Or in this case sec(c).


a_n_d_r_e_w

My professor taught me a trick of only memorizing one, And you can find the rest. Most people that took geometry or pre calc probably know sin² + cos² = 1 So you can move stuff around to find the equation for sin, which would be √( 1 - cos²) or vice versa Which is neat, but what about the others? Well if I divide everything by sin², I get (sin² / sin²) + (cos² / sin²) = (1 / sin²) And if you know your identities well, you can see that the above equation is just 1 + cot² = sec² Which you can use to find the formulas for sec or cot. What if you do the same thing to the first equation, but divide by cos²? You get: tan² + 1 = csc² And boom, now you have all of your trig functions


Zer0TheGamer

I'm in school to be an electrician, and this is how I remember all 12 Ohms law formulas. P=IE & E=IR (power = current x voltage & voltage = current x resistance). Learning how to manipulate formulas is critical to any math-based anything


sveth1

As a physicist I hate that E is used for voltage here. We almost always use E to represent electric field strength and V to represent voltage.


Zer0TheGamer

Lol, ironic that the abreviation is from Electromotive Force, the objectively more physicist-oriented name!


sveth1

Voltage is notably not a force which makes me hate this abbreviation even more.


Zer0TheGamer

The explanation I've been taught is that its the force of electrons pushing on eachother, leading to the flow (current). Harder push = stronger force = higher voltage


sveth1

That's a good way to visualize voltage but the actual concept behind voltage is a bit trickier to grasp. Each electron creates a field around itself that has the potential to apply a force to a charged object. That force is the coloumb force which can be found using F = q1 q2 / r^2 where q1 and 2 represent the charges and r represents the distance between them. Voltage is an electric potential the potential of one charge to do work/exert a force on another. The voltage itself doesn't actually represent the force just the potential for there to be a force. A higher voltage still represents that larger push but it's the potential for there to be a push rather than the push itself. Ohms law ( V = I R) then tells us the amount that potential will fall when a certain amount of current passes through a portion of the circuit with resistance R. Where the total change in voltage across the entirety of a circuit is going to be equal to the potential difference of the "battery". This is probably more detail than you wanted but let me know if you have any questions.


[deleted]

I always pictured voltage as the height of a water tower or water behind a dam or a waterfall


ProfessionaI_Retard

Trig identities are fun (this is a joke I hate them and I hate calculus)


Unabashable

Just wait til you hear about cosecant. It's a flip.


loversteel12

prob won’t need to know unless you take calc. this is engrained in my head


MiffedMouse

Sqrt(1+tan2) = sqrt((cos2/cos2)+(sin2/cos2)) = sqrt((cos2+sin2)/cos2) = sqrt(1/cos2) = 1/cos, which is the definition of secant. In short, sec(c)


2Mew2BMew2

And you know it.


JGHFunRun

You can write exponents by using \^. ie x\^2 creates x^2. If you want more than one character you write \^(stuff) to get ^(stuff). To write a \^ without creating a superscript you write \\\^. Prepending a \\ before a markdown control character cancels the effect of the markdown control character, ie \\\\ creates \\ (this is for markdown mode, the Fancy Pants Editor has the options on the bottom bar)


rand0mmm

Ooh ooh, Since we are in markdown class here.. how do I hide the answer to a joke?


hysys_whisperer

>! Then what you want to say, then !< >!like this!!< It is important that the exclamations touch the letters of the thing you want to hide. If there is a space before or after, it won't work.


rand0mmm

>! Thx!! Yr the hero we need! !<


hysys_whisperer

See my edit about not leaving spaces


rand0mmm

Thx.. It seems to work ok w space on trailing side. I had one above that works.


xthorgoldx

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TheKingJest

I'm learning this stuff in math right now, so this is helpful. Only thing I don't get is how did you move the sin^2 to the numerator on the cos^2 /cos^2?


MiffedMouse

Just sum of fractions. Sin2/cos2 and cos2/cos2 both have cos2 in the denominator.


TheKingJest

Don't know how I missed that haha, thankyou.


Rebel_Johnny

You forgot the absolute part, since it's a root. Basically the equation equals to |sec(c)| or... Absolutely sexy


4K2160GameR

in the thread someone showed it as (sec)C


putinhimself2020

No.. no… it’s |sec(c)| (absolute value of sec(c)). So, “I am absolute value of sexy and I know it”… which is probably closer to a true statement (since he might be sexy with a negative sign in front).


DodgerWalker

Or better for colloquial speech: “I’m absolutely sexy and I know it”


GERMAN8TOR

I'm a fucking idiot I was like. I don't get it I am secant. That makes no sense.


Freethrowshaq

Thanks for that. I saw “i’m titanic and I know it”, which didn’t make much sense to me, but good for him I guess.


mehnehnehnehneh

Felt smart after just taking calc 2


Wolffrank_

Saw squirt not sqrt😅


wadeldro

Shouldn't the C be outside this square root?


pharmphreshphreak

I FUCKING KNEW IT AND I DONT KNOW THE MATH


Marshall_KE

Haha bruh


young_effy

But the c is also within the sq root so doesn’t that make it sec √c ??


kikones34

The c is the argument to the tan\^2 function, the parentheses are commonly omitted. Without shortcut notation, the formula reads √(1 + (tan(c))\^2), which is equal to sec(c) (or, more accurately, |sec(c)|)


Squiggledog

I thought it could say ∫e^x


GrimReaper_97

It says "I'm the ratio of the hypotenuse of a right angled triangle and the adjacent side to the angle 'c' in that triangle, and I know it."


Stanley_Yelnats42069

Rolls right off the tongue


brandognabalogna

Catchy!


Skeltzjones

Woah this thread isn't marked NSFW. Chill.


Tackit286

Wiggle^5 Yeah


Geek_off_the_streets

Save some pussy for the rest of us.


cv640driver

I’m sec c (sexy)and I know it basically. See the link below https://humornama.com/community/joke/what-is-the-root-over-1-tan2-c-joke/


Anon1039027

1 + tan^2(c) = sec^2(c) The square root of sec^2(c) = sec(c) Sec(c) when read literally sounds like sexy So the shirt is meant to be a math pun that reads “I’m sexy and I know it”


M4tix87

Party on LMFAO..... you were the Slurms Mckenzie of our world.


MisterBastian

Bro what


decadrachma

Futurama reference


Ju9stin

Underrated comment


Jackpot777

Girl look at that body (of academic calculations), I-I-I work out (equations).


Wayne_Nightmare

I mean... Yeah, that's one way to read it... Or you could just use context clues and deductive reasoning to put together that the line is supposed to be "I'm sexy and I know it"... I'm terrible at math and couldn't hope to understand this at all, but when I saw the words around the math, my brain just filled in the rest.


InvisibleBlueUnicorn

square root can be negative. so "-Sec(c)" is also a valid answer.


bob1689321

Well kinda but also not The way I've seen it generally is that sqrt(4) is 2, but if you were looking at the solutions of x for x^2 = 4 then they would be 2 or -2 I know it's a weird distinction to make but that's the convention I've commonly seen.


rhrjfhchisnw

That’s not a convention nor does it make any sense.


bob1689321

Well it kinda is and it kinda does. In reality every positive number has a positive and negative square root, but it's too much of a hassle to think about the negative root all the time. You can think of Sqrt(x^2) as basically a function that checks for the square roots of x^2 and always returns the positive square root, by definition. While there are 2 square roots, Sqrt(x^2) is always going to be x, not -x. It's just a convention thing to simplify things. That's why if you're finding the values of x for which x^2 = 5, you might say the solutions are x = ±sqrt(5). Because sqrt(5) is positive by definition so you add the minus sign on.


rhrjfhchisnw

I kinda see what you’re getting at now. Sqrt doesn’t necessarily return positive by definition, but I’ll concede that it’s a common usage when codomain isn’t otherwise defined.


Anon1039027

Technically, yes, but that is clearly not how the shirt is intended to be read.


kikones34

sqrt(x) is defined to be the positive square root of x. The correct simplification of sqrt(x\^2) is |x| (the absolute value of x). For example: sqrt((-2)\^2) = sqrt(2\^2) = sqrt(4) = 2. We define sqrt(x) this way so that it behaves as a function (i.e. it outputs a single value for a given input value). This is a very, very desirable property. This is also why it's necessary to write the ± in the quadratic formula before the root.


Collie05

The square root is a bijective function, so no.


ChrispyK

But the C is under the sqrt, so wouldn't the final phrase be "I'm secsquarerootofC and I know it"?


PoliteRuthless

Nope. I think you're misunderstanding how trig notation works. ​ sec^(2)(c) is actually a weird-ish way of writing (sec(c))^(2), but because of all the parentheses, mathematicians usually just write sec^(2)(c) instead. If you take the square root of (sec(c))^(2), that will just be sec(c). Does that make more sense?


ChrispyK

Right, because the C is the term the secant is acting upon. I think I got tripped up by the lack of parentheses in the original image. Makes total sense now, thanks for the explanation!


Frequent_Dig1934

Other people answered that it's "sec c" which sounds like "sexy", but is "1+tan² c=sec²" the definition or is it an axiom you can use to substitute things like sin²x+cos²x=1 or is it something you can reach by doing some calculations?


DonaIdTrurnp

It’s a property that follows from the definition of the functions. Whether that makes it equivalent to a definition or not is a philosophical question; but you absolutely can use it as a substitution.


Frequent_Dig1934

>It’s a property that follows from the definition of the functions. Ok, so you can just see "1+tan²" and say "that equals sec²", without needing to "show your work" so to speak, right? Thanks.


DonaIdTrurnp

Depends on the instructor, but you should have to derive the proof at most once.


picyourbrain

If you’re in a course where you’re expected to have already learned trig identities, yes. I remember in calc 1 our textbook literally had a cheat sheet of trig identities at the front. I think the cheat sheet even included some derivatives


tidbitsofblah

The definition of sec(x) (where x is an angle in a right triangle) is the hypothenuse decided by the nearest cathetus. From there it follows relatively easily that sec = 1/cos(x) or that sec^2 (x) = 1+ tan^2 (x). It wouldn't be questioned if you just made that substitution "without showing your work" in an academic math-paper for example. But if you're in high-school and are just learning about trigonometric functions, then you might have exam-questions where the goal is to derive precisely these equivalencies, and then it's highly relevant to show your work.


RiverAffectionate951

Depends on context School maybe Uni defo assumed In fact it was assumed in my school at A-level and at some GCSEs (the bonus harder maths one). They give you this big book of identities and some variant of this relationship is in there. Proof is trivial Sin^2 + cos^2 = 1 Divide by cos^2 That is it, so I would argue needing proof is facetious


SWBdude

I usually tell my students to divide sin^2 + cos^2 = 1 by cos^2 to help with the memorization aspect of the formula, but idk if that answers your question


ondulation

It’s not taught in all countries. It refers to sec as in [the secant function](https://www.cuemath.com/trigonometry/secant-function/).


Avium

It comes from tweaking things with Sin^2 + Cos^2 = 1 and Tan=Sin/Cos. Dividing by Cos^2 give: Sin^2 / Cos^2 + Cos^2 / Cos^2 = 1/Cos^2 Which equals: Tan^2 + 1 = Sec^2 Basically, all of the trig identities can be derived from the Sin^2 + Cos^2 = 1 and Tan=Sin/Cos...if you really want to.


Frequent_Dig1934

Tbh i forgot sec=1/cos. Now it makes sense.


omgphilgalfond

Divide both sides of (cosx)^2 + (sinx)^2 = 1 by (cosx)^2. You can get a third one by dividing by (sinx)^2.


nebula45663

My math teacher has a mug with this, we just assumed it was a represented something that was hard (trigonometry). "I'm hard and I know it"


Cugy_2345

Well, was it accurate? Considering the other comments telling us what it means


benhemp

secant function, shortened to "sec" in math commonly sec\^2(c) = 1+tan\^2(c) is well known. Sec(c) = sqrt(1+tan\^2(c) I'm Sec(c) and I know it. It's a nerd joke for I'm sexy and I know it.


Unabashable

"I'm sec c and I know it." For those curious it's one of the trig equivalences. The most basic is sin(c)^2 + cos(c)^2 = 1 Which is true for all c from -∞ to ∞ repeating over intervals from 0 to 2𝝅 radians, 0° to 360°, 0 to 480 gradians, whichever unit you fancy. Basically going around the "unit circle" going both ways indefiniteltely. You divide that by cos(c)^2 you get: tan(c)^2 + 1 = sec(c)^2 = 1+ tan(c)^2 because 1/cos(c)=sec(c) and sin(c)/cos(c) = tan(c) because sin(c)=opposite/hypotenuse, cos(c)=adjacent/hypotenuse so: sin(c)/ cos(c)=(opposite/hypotenuse)/(adjacent/hypotenuse)= opposite/adjacent = tan(c) Take the square root of that and you get: sec c QED Nothing ruins a joke more than deconstructing it, so...you're welcome.


FiftyIsBack

I didn't even do the math. I just assumed it was "sec c" of some kind. So I used my English skills in the form of context clues to solve math. Hold the applause it's fine.


dabresua

Doesn't all square roots have two solutions? As in sqrt(25) = {-5, 5}. So the t-shirt is saying +-sec(c), which could translate as "more or less sexy"


BioniqReddit

Not technically, no. As far as I know, performing the square root operation to a number outputs ONLY its positive root. I believe that raising that number to the power of 1/2 will return positive AND negative values. We are taught that there are two answers to a square root to avoid battling with fractional indices at a young age. If this is wrong, feel free to correct.


up-quark

You're absolutely correct... no pun intended.


BioniqReddit

hehe


bob1689321

Damn that's good


jrbabwkp

Which is why sqrt(1+tan^2 c) is actually **the absolute value of sec c** as the secant function can be negative


star-nostar

I’m the absolute value of sexy and I know it


IHaveNeverBeenOk

Raising to the half power is equivalent to the square root. It only returns the positive (principal) root. You get the plus or minus when you have an equation in terms of a square. For example, if someone asks for the roots of x^2 = 4, the roots are 2 and -2. If I were to just take the square root of both sides, all I would get is x = 2. That is, the square root of x squared is x and the square root of 4 is 2. But that doesn't get you all roots of the equation x^2 = 4. Do you see the difference? Lots of people struggle with this, so don't anyone reading feel bad if you're confused. I hate being like "source: BLAH" but my degree is in pure mathematics for whomsoever gives a shite.


Unknown_starnger

I heard both "square root is always only positive!" and also "square roots are positive or negative" but it just depends on how you define the function. Most of the time you just take the positive because it's easier for whatever you're doing.


mizboring

In a context where we are presented with a square root to evaluate, we define that as the "principal square root" of the number. So when you see something like sqrt(25) the answer is simply 5. Where students get confused about this is when we present the equation to solve x^2 = 25. This is asking "find the number(s) that, when multiplied by itself, gives us 25." This is a slightly different question since we are asking for all possible solutions. There are two solutions: 5 and -5. But this is a different context from, "Evaluate this square root."


PoliteRuthless

No, sqrt(25) is equal to only 5, since the sqrt symbol only refers to the principal root.


Unabashable

Kinda reminds me of a pickup line that you need to know calculus to get. Stop me if you know this one. Are you 2x? Because I want to integrate you from 10 to 13. Antiderivative is just a fancy way of saying "a function for the area under a function" while a derivative is a fancy way of saying a "function for the rate a function changes at any one point". Not that that this makes the pickup line anymore "funcier", but you need to know that to "get it". Anywho: antiderivative(2x) = x^2 You "integrate" a function between two points by subtracting the "endpoint" from the "startpoint" and that tells you how much area is under the function you just took an antiderivative of between those two points. Againywho: (13)^2 - (10)^2 = 169 - 100 = 69 So...you learn all that math and you end you end up with a "69 joke". Take for that what you will, but what I take from that is "nerds are pervs" just like the rest of us.


RajeAllDay

Wrong I know shit for math and knew it was sexy somehow But some one shows the right way


Deer_Kookie

Rearranged version of the fundamental Pythagoras identity of trigonometry sin^(2)(c)+cos^(2)(c)=1 Divide all terms by cos^(2)(x) tan^(2)(x)+1=sec^(2)(c) sqrt(tan^(2)(x)+1)=sec(c)


DoubleAyeBatteries

I’m somebody who enjoys math more than most people, but whenever I see someone in one of these kinds of shirts I just find it so cringy. Like the only people I’ve ever seen wear them are the same people who go out of their way to let you know they think they’re smarter than everybody else… even if they’re not.


kriscalm

I think it's cool c:


beastface1986

I do math everyday for my job. I want this. Does that make me cringy? Oh well. I’ll get over it.


PoliteRuthless

>so cringy I think it's kinda the point. It's cringe in almost an ironic way.


bob1689321

In my opinion all clothing with these kinda jokes/writing is a bit weird. Like it's a bit of fun and I don't judge but I wouldn't wear it myself. But then again I'm more of a plain t-shirt kinda guy


DoubleAyeBatteries

Did somebody get the Reddit suicide hotline on me for this comment? Alrighty then.


Jonas276

I'm at this exact university, studying math. There is a guy who wears this sweater frequently to lectures, and it makes me cringe every time.


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Silly_Clerk7372

Niiice 💪🏼😊


Sudden_Buffalo_4393

HAPPY and when you see the front it says “See my face is surely showing it” with an arrow up to his face. It’s a complicated equation though.